Is it really that bad?

Stevenage celebrate.
Stevenage have their moment.
As giant killings go, Newcastle’s defeat at the hands of Stevenage yesterday is up there with the best of them.

It has of course been eclipsed by greater achievements in the past, and it will be eclipsed again in the future, but it didn’t feel like that as the final whistle blew at Broadhall Way yesterday evening.

Embarrasing? Yes. Hurtful? Yes. Those two statements can’t be denied. But as the dust settles on another year without even a moderate cup run to show for our efforts, it does beg the question of whether yesterday was as bad as it is being made out.

Make no mistake, I am as disappointed as the next fan, but it wasn’t our lowest ebb and we will fight another day. There may be headlines for the next few days, and the Stevenage boss may be able to sound off with regular frequency at the minute, but it won’t last.

There have been times in the past where the club has been at a lower ebb than what it felt like yesterday. The defeat to Hereferd back in 1972 was just as bad as this, if not worse. Much of that depends on who you speak to of course, as I wasn’t even around then.

However, I was around during the 1990’s, particularly the early 90’s, which is probably the one time that I feared about the future of our club the most. I remember the threat of the club not being in existance anymore, which was a very real prospect had we suffered a relegation to the third tier of English football. Luckily, the old board structure was replaced with John Hall who appointed Kevin Keegan in a ‘roll of the dice’ manoeuvre. The rest, as they say, is history.

Another time when I feared about the future of club was only a couple of years ago when we found ourselves dumped out of the Premier League. Tha was a horrible feeling. It was embarrassing and hurtful having to deal with fans at other clubs said, but it didn’t last long and we rose again.

You see, that is the point that I am trying to get across right now. We have had some dark days in our history, some of them darker than others, but the one consistency between all of them, bar none, is that Newcastle United has always bounced back.

We will bounce back again from this horrible defeat, we will fight another day. This isn’t the end of our season and we can now concentrate fully on securing our place in the Premier League for next season. The FA Cup will come again this time next year and we can have another go at it.

We may have lost the match yesterday, but……

Newcastle United will never be defeated!

About toonsy

A lifelong Newcastle fan and current webmaster of this very ‘blog who has the sole aim of creating a place by Newcastle United fans, for Newcastle United fans.

44 thoughts on “Is it really that bad?

  1. Well Liverpool will be out in this round, and the monkeys and boro. And we have 3 more points than liverpoop this season. The curse of dogleash. 🙂

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  2. Well said toonsy. Plus now the players have more reason to do well next week, for they’ll be looking to make up for yesterday.

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  3. Last time we got hammered in the cup we beat Sunderland 5-1 next game!

    Obviously it is horribly embarrassing BUT it isnt the end of the world we must concentrate on the league a nice cup run would have been nice but we must consolidate our place in the EPL, a win at Sunderland and I’m sure many fans won’t feel nearly as bad. Of course it won’t take the pain away completely (that’s what a little thing called alcohol is for 🙂 )

    So yes I agree it is not the end of the world by any means! Also anyone know anything on who the mystery player we are meant to sign soon is?

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  4. Debs – I don’t wish relegation on any team and certainly not on a club like Liverpool. I recall Liverpool fans being remorseful about our relegation (on the web). The worst fans after our relegation were from Spurs, Villa, Everton and Blackburn. I also don’t understand this malice towards Kenny. He bought some canny players, took us to an FA cup final and qualified for the Champions League.

    Teams with nee support like Wigan and Blackpool are the ones I would prefer to gan and be replaced by teams like Leeds and Sheff Wed. But who am I to judge?

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  5. Did anyone read the comments Pardew’s supposed to have made re Ranger in the Sunday Sun? Read them on Ed’s blog? If true Pardew has a bigger gob than JFK. He is giving far too much insight into dressing room stuff and will quickly turn players against him as he lets his mouth run away from him. He’s discussing stuff with the media that should stay behind closed doors.

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  6. Well said
    There have been darker days in the past and we’ve manage to bounce back stronger than ever 🙂

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  7. I disagree. Liverpool fans are shithouses who support a shithouse of a team from a shithole of a place.

    The faster Liverpool disappears off the face of the planet (the club and the place) the better.

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  8. To be honest, I think it is fair enough. I mean Pardew did say that Carroll and others have said that they have had chats with him before, so if it isn’t working behind closed doors then why not make it public? Put a bit of pressure on the lad and make it known.

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  9. Sorry off-topic, but dunno if anyone saw the fan hitting the player that we seem to be getting the blame for, but I did a little research last night and found a youtube video taken by a Stevenage fan clearly showing the guy’s face & him running on the pitch complete with a red, black & white Stevenage scarf.
    This is the video: http://youtu.be/dlvVgkXA_r0

    And here is a still of the guy taken from the video: http://t.co/g7Q7kQQ

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  10. Aye and how many ‘fans’ would liverpool get in the championship I wonder. Not as many as us by I long shot I would suggest. In fact their fans are starting to leave now they’re not in the top 4. And WE get called fickle and deluded. 🙄

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  11. The rumour doing the rounds is that the Stevenage player wouldn’t give the fan his shirt. I dont think that’s the case though, if you watch the video he doesn’t even have time to stop and talk to him. He marches towards the lad and just smacks him, that’s something personal I think.

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  12. Deb, Ranger is a grade A shlong, and if it takes someone to come out publicly to sort his attititude out, as it has been done behind doors for a while now, well i’m all for it.

    We’ve screamed out for years for players who give a toss, who want to go out and give ther all to prove their worth, by the sounds of thing that’s what Best has done. If Ranger is all to happy to prance around and act like a footballer then get rid.

    We’ve seen it all before, players who just want to turn up and get their wages, and we’ve seen where it can lead.

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  13. FA have just announced Joey Barton will be given a 3 match ban for dressing up as a Stevenage fan and punching one of their players.

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  14. Malice towards Kenny stems from him dismantling the great KK side and replacing great players with people like Rush, Barnes, Guivarch etc and also being a miserable tw*t.

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  15. DJG – a bloke I work with said the same. He told me to watch their attendances drop below 30k if they have a period of unsuccess like us. He said the sane about a few clubs including Celtic.

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  16. Not saying Ranger isn’t a prize prat as all the evidence shows he is and something needs to be done to give him a kick up the arse, however I fear all Pardew’sverbal diarrhoea will come back to haunt us. Show the man a microphone or journalist and he can’t seem to help himself a la JFK. But this is the thin end of the wedge. He can’t keep his mouth shut and if he continues he could lose the confidence of the players. We’ve gone from one extreme to the other on the communication front. Don’t you think if he is planning on shipping him out, highlighting that Rnager is a prize prat who wont listen to anyone isn’t gonna help getting shot of him

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  17. Good question, they’ve been leaving in their hordes already. Now scouse saviour King Kenny is back as they demanded lets see what happens next.

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  18. Aye and the worst part is they’d have been well within their rights to absolutly batter the lad for it, but he’d have dragged our name through the sh!te aswell. The most common reaction from all i’ve seen on message boards etc is “I’ve never seen anything like that before”..we’d have been murdered for it. Thank god it was some idiot from their end.

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  19. Those who are slaggin off smudger today must not have been watching last year or at least have short memories. If it wasn’t for some of his performances most of last year, we are probably not playing prem footy right now. Yes he had a shocker yesterday, but so did everyone else, although he stands out the most. The only player who can some what hold his head up today IMO is Simpson and maybe Colo. But one game doesn’t erase the fact that smith was a big player for us last year. Yes we need better quality and he probably needs to be replaced but let’s not forget that his efforts last year are part of the reason we’re looking for a prem class replacement and not a fizzy pop calibre player.

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  20. I haven’t been impressed with Smith in a single game for Newcastle. He did a job at times last season but I expect a player on his wage to do more than one job on the pitch.

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  21. At the end of the day, I didn’t care about the cup anyway. I know it sounds like a good excuse in hindsight but I was calling for more youngsters and wanted our first team out so we could focus on the league-its bloody irritating to see our top players, with the exception of Barton, seemingly not fussed though. The only thing I’m really annoyed about is Tiote which has been done to death, and finally, I don’t really think it matters in terms of giant killing..the stats will say stevenage league 2 and newcastle prem but if i’m honest not much seems to separate league 1/2, its just up to whoevers up for it really. Stevenage will remember, and other fans might like to banter us with it, at the end of the day we’ll forget the result, or I certainly will.-What we shouldn’t forget is the attitude showed by some players and hopefully we’ll see the back of them by the end of the season.

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  22. He was the motm for probably 1/3 of the matches last year which won him the captaincy. Like I said. Either you weren’t watching, or you have a short memory.

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  23. thought webb got that pen badly wrong,but aboot time that dirty git got sent off,lost count the times he got off with it over the years

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  24. Ranger is only 19, if he is like most of us at 19, we have the mental concentration or a chicken trying to do calculus. Geetin a lad to behave like a grown man is a matter of both time and teaching. AP can only do the latter, so get on with your job coach.

    Smith was OK last year because it was kick and chase. Now that passing and running with the ball is required, the game has passed him by. If he wants to play, he should be asking for a move to Leeds or someone else in the lower leagues.

    Don’t know what has happened to Willo, but I hope he finds himself and gets his game back. A few months ago he was doing his job, covering for Perch and making good passes out of the back. Something has gone terribly wrong.

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  25. I’m not sure that’s right, toonsy. As I understand it, the teams in the draw are numbered alphabetically, so we would have had a different number to Stevenage, and would have been drawn against a different team. I think we would have been away to West Ham in the fourth round

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  26. Aye maybe the latter, mate. It is easy to forget sometimes and tbh if he was on 20k a week we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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  27. come on toonsy,
    they’ve got the most (soon to be second most) league titles. they’ve got history. theyy have the Kop. Their encounters with Manure and Everton are always fierce and entertaining (except for this season).

    They have passionate fans and have been a mainstay in the premierleague since it started. The league without liverpool is like the league without newcastle united: something will be missing.

    A team I would love to see relegated is Wigan. Shit fans, brings no excitement to the league.
    Would be great if Leeds, Notts Forest, and Leicester come back. They have fans as good as ours!

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