Carroll handed in transfer request
This transfer window has been a nervy one, and in all honesty the question on everyone’s mind was always whether or not Andy Carroll would stay put? That question was answered on deadline day, and it wasn’t the answer that Newcastle fans wanted to hear.
The constant message that was coming from owner, manager and player himself on several occassions prior to deadline day was that Carroll was a one club man and the player wasn’t for sale. I think Newcastle fans could be forgiven for being sceptical of the owner’s promise that the star player wouldn’t be sold at any price.
It was reported that Liverpool had bid for the striker late on Sunday evening, a bid in the region of £30 million. This news was made public on Monday morning after it was announced that Newcastle had rejected the bid. Liverpool apparently wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer and continued to work on a deal for Carroll as they searched for a striker to replace Chelsea-bound Fernando Torres.
It was later claimed that Ashley and co had rejected a second bid from the Scousers in the region of £35 million. At that point I heard from a few places that talks between the two clubs had maybe stopped. Then the unthinkable happened and Judas, oops I mean Andy handed in a transfer request in an attempt to push the deal through.
The rest is history. He held talks with Dalglish, had a medical and before you know it, he’s someone else’s number nine. My main annoyance is hearing the lad talk about his love, passion and commitment for our club for so long. Then on transfer deadline day, when time was getting on, he decided that he’d kick each and every one of us in the bollocks and announce that he wanted out.
The timing gave us no chance or real opportunity to replace such a vital player. If for whatever reason Andy decided he wanted to move on he could have spoken up earlier about it and given everyone enough time to think about preparing for the loss
Andy apparently didn’t want to leave the club, and he sent a text to Toon Talk editor Steve Wraith which reportedly said:
“I’m gutted to be leaving my home town club. I was told to go. I didn’t want to leave that’s why I signed a 5 year deal. I was pushed out of the door.”
Aww, that’s ok then Andy because you didn’t hand in a transfer request did you? I’m sorry, but as people on here and other blogs have always pointed out, you are under contract that you don’t have to leave the club, nothing is forcing you to sign a contract elsewhere. So I’m afraid this whole ‘I was forced out’ crap will not fool me, it sounds like a feeble little consolation for the brilliant Newcastle United fans. It won’t wash with me. If Andy Carroll wanted to be a Newcastle player then he still would be, it really is that simple.
The only new arrival on Tyneside yesterday was the loan signing of Stephen Ireland, a deal that was expected to be completed anyway. It was reported that we made a last ditch attempt to sign former player and serial sulker Charles N’Zogbia in the closing stages of the window last night, and It was believed that we had an initial bid of £10 million rejected before a follow up bid of £12 million was also turned down by Dave Whelan.
You know the saying that no one is bigger than a football club? We should all remember that. The truth behind this sorry saga may never be fully understood, or accepted by us, but we have a team there that we love.
Carroll is gone and he has turned his back on the chance of being a true local hero and taking his boyhood heroes to the next level, which is too bad but life goes on and next stop for us is Fulham away on Wednesday night.
Andy Carroll is not our business anymore, not untill our trip to Anfield anyway and I’m sure that we will make our opinion known that afternoon. Onwards and upwards. Howay the lads!
Feel free to use this thread to vent.
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good read
and yes , now we can move on with this group of lads that love to be here and really commit to the club
I believe in our team to pull it off especially senior lads like Captain Nolan , Barton , Harper and Smith to motivate the team.
HOWAY THE LADS !!!
Coupla papers denying their was transfer request. Bt as I say-andy didnt have to sign for ‘pool.
I think we should discredit that text, as well as the people who circulated it. Don’t get me wrong, i’m all for criticising the club for the way the last day has been handled, especially those bids for N’zogbia (wtf?), but that text is a pathetic attempt to gain some headlines by a nobody with an agenda.
£12 f*cking million for N’zogbia?!?!?!?!
Ilm-yeah agreed pal. Even if txt is right,its a poor effort by ac to keep fans on his side. Went for the money!
Don’t get me wrong though, only a month ago Carroll was saying how much he wants to stay, and then afte rthe club reject offers for him, then all of a sudden he hands in a tranfer request?!?!?!
Nah something doesn’t add up to me like, though that text is a load of shit, the whole situation stinks to me. I wouldn’t write Carroll off as the bad man for now, I don’t think this story is done yet…
Everything else -Geordie boy, famous number nine, fog on the bloody Tyne, whatever – goes out the window. Football romance is dead, everyone is a liar, contracts should be printed on toilet paper.
If the club did bid €12million for charles who isn’t a striker,why can’t they bid €12million for roman pavlyuchenko instead
Well, I’d prefer to have the money rather than Andy Carroll. 35 million! That is outrageous! If this money is used to get the club solvent again then it is a good deal.
But if I start hearing things about there being no cash for strengthening the squad in the summer, I’ll change my tune. There are no excuses for not upgrading for next season.
I have a feeling that we never put a bid in for zogs. Think maybe whealen wad trying to stick it to Ashley there.
Would anyone be surprised if Ashley now pockets the money and says to hell with this, sell up owl heed and let’s get out of here.
There is some venom in there Mark. You bitch lol
And what’s with the italics?
In the past,we do get in good replacement such as when andy cole left,we got Les ferdinad.
But The most upset is not on the loyality(C’mon,Football culture has already change),but the timing…
Now we gonna rely on the captain and manager,to prevent the spirit going hay-wire. and those remaining strikers to do the job.
As for Mike Ashley,Pls re-contract barton and Enrique deal ASAP.
A good read.
http://www.true-faith.co.uk/tf/editorials.nsf/LookupUNID/3F06C6B7E437D7048025782A0003B5AA
We are set up to survive and ride the PL gravy train. In a way I think having 30 points and doing so well has been bad thing as it has allowed Ashley to sell with less risk. As long as this man is in charge we will get this again and again and again. Expect Vuckic to go on the last day of a transfer window if he is any good and I fully expect Tiote and Enrique to go in the summer. They will be replaced probably with the likes of Konchesky.
AOD – I’m guessing mark has left a / off somewhere.
JG – Doubt Ashley would sell up yet mate as he’d still be £100 mill plus out of pocket.
Any words from Alan shearer on this saga?
Well,LFC got two potential big problematic strikers in.
1. someone who recently loves bitting oponent players(Suarez)
2.someone whose private life has been “lively”,bashing up ppl out at night.
LFC,if u don’t get into top 4 and europa and newcastle higher than you,i will open two champage for celebration.
top 4 or even europa.
Not much to say on the subject really except I feel Carroll’s ‘injury’ was faked so think that this deal has been going on for some time behind closed doors. I think I’m most bothered about all the bare faced lies that have been told about this from Ashley and Carroll (I think Pardew honestly didn’t know). I hate the fact that although this deal was obviously going on for a while that they waited till the very last possible moment to complete it so we are short of a great striker. I can only hope that Ranger will now step up and make the transition as Carroll did before him.
Thing is, and this is what is getting me now, is that even if Ranger does step up, he’ll be gone for a hefty wedge.
I’ll wait and see what happens to the money before I start gong proper radge, but if it’s not invested back in the team I won’t be happy.
Toonsy, where do you get that figure? I’m not doubtingit, just wondering.
Toonsy the club had already said at the start of the season that there wouldn’t be much money to spend this year, but if we managed to stay up, there would be significant investment in the summer. Will the Carroll money be added to that sum? I really don’t know what to think anymore.
JG – It’s the debt owed to Ashley minus the Carroll fee but give or take a bit because I don’t think the club is worth what Ashley paid for it.
As for summer investment, it is true that they said there would be little cash this year but tht the taps would be turned on a bit more next season if we stop up.
I’m not confident, so we’ll wait and see.
Anywa, I’m going to bed. I’m still angry so I’m going to punch a few walls on the way aswell…..
If he doesnt invest in the summer then I hope he has an exit plan, because he is walking the finest of lines.
Yet another window in which we end up weaker. One window out of 7 isn’t bad I suppose for Ashley.
I imagine Carroll isn’t the bad man he’s being painted as. History tells us Ashley and his crony are a bunch of knobs, so don’t be suprised!
Are people going to accept now we’re run by a bunch of fckin cretins, or are people still wearing the rose tinted glasses after yet another fcking disaster!
Loyalty is a 2 way street. I wonder how much Hughton’s sacking had to do with Andy’s decision?
Why should he show loyalty to the shower of sh*t that runs our club?
Watch this space regarding Enrique and Tiote. They are the next ones out of here, most probably in the summer. Our only saving grace is if Man U line up other replacements in the mean time, but Evra is making noises already….Money talks I’m afraid, as does the prospect of Champions League football. A footballers is a short career, players want to earn as much as they can, and win as many trophys as they can, simple. Unfortunately we were led astray by Alan Shearer who actually WAS loyal, but he was a one-off.
The bitterest of pills is all the lies and intrigue which come from our complete owner / management team. I cannot wait to see Pardews face at the next TV interview, we should slap the lie detector test on him !!
His loyalty should be to the club as ours is, not to a particular manager or owner.
Carroll could have said no to the move whatever the circumstances surrounding it were, just as Ashley could have turned down the transfer request and the bid.Bollox to the pair of them, one down one to go
Munich – Where is Enrique and Tiote’s incentive for staying? All the players now have a very valid reason to ask where the club is going?
Thats the problem now Stuart, unless we’re going to be spending at least £45m in the summer, then we have no ambition so they may as well go
I think Carroll made his decision as soon as his agent knew that Liverpool wanted him and that’s been the story of the transfer window. Carroll saw the ££££’s and jumped at the chance to make that amount of money, all the talk about playing for the club has hit must of us very hard as we never expected him to go. But we have got a lot of money for him, although we didn’t have enough time to reinvest we have quality in players and have shown that we don’t need Carroll to score goals for us when he has been out injured. Liverpool are taking a risk on someone who is injured and I am sure that they will be play him even before he is back to full fitness. It’s a kick in the teeth for all Newcastle fans, but I would love to finish above Liverpool so much this season.
Anybody doubting Carroll read the transcript of the text messages between him and Steve Wraith. Has said himself he didn’t want to go and the club told him to put in a transfer request to make it look like it was him. The club wanted the money!
Next season I can see average crowds of 25k. Why should we commit our cash if the club won’t do the same?
I just don’t trust the twats!
both parties are full of crap Stuart, you can’t be made to put in a transfer request, they wanted the cash, he wanted to go and now we’ll have all the crap in the papers with both sides trying to cover their arses. £35m+ is only a good amount if it’s all re-invested, which it probably won’t be imo.
Don’t trust anyone in football, they are all liars.
ilm agree ,and agree with you stu
Look, i don’t think you can believe these texts. Carroll may be using them so that he can cover his tracks for going to Liverpool. We tried to invest but at such a late part in the day it was hard for us to find someone who was willing to come to the club.
So some of you are divided in your opinions on this transfer, but we rejected two bids and then Carroll knew the only way to go was to hand in a transfer request. What gets me is why we didn’t neogtiate to bring someone from Liverpool in a part-exchange deal which would have helped our squad out.
Nile Ranger will surely get his chance now and he will have to prove himself, he may turn out to blossom into a fantastic player. And in a few months this will all blow over
and DAVID CRAIG is defo on fattys payroll
even though judas could of stayed ,i cant beleive people are just beleiving what the club have said ,they are proven liars and idiots
That’s a bit harsh to say that, people believe different things about the saga and can form their opinions of what they believe happened in Carroll leaving this club. We just have to forget about it and move on.
batty….they’re all f*kn liars every last one of them, money makes them that way, corruption and lies rule football
Let’s hope Carroll is the next Michael Ricketts
Whey work calls, later lads.
Forced to hand in a written transfer request, highly unlikely he can hardly spell his name never mind write a sentence
Can’t see the 35 million being reinvested, pardew will get 15 mil max in the summer
Would imagine that tiote, Enrique, collo and Barton out the door in the summer
Who knows what the real situation is he wanted the readies they wanted to cash in. Thats life, let’s move on. He’s shown his true colours so not interested in him anymore. Let’s focus on Fulam game and what we have left. Could be the players feel as let down by Andy Carroll as we are.
Gone are the days of honour in football. Why has he bothered signing a 5 and a half year deal at liverpool … that is exactly what he signed for us in October.
Money talks and Agents plot and scheme …
Total joke. Hope that he gets some serious stick every time he sets foot in the north east
IMO Carroll couldnt have been forced to put in a transfer request in unless he wanted to go. I know MA and co are a bunch of lying cants but i just cant see how they would have forced him to do it. But as i said its easier to blame the devil than one of our own.
A Carroll = Judas
BigDave – Completely agree … no-one could force him to leave his beloved club.
Money talks in the world of Andy Carrol (and his agent) and whilst he’s not the only one it applies to, its sickening to look back on his quotes of only a few weeks/months ago about loyalty etc.
If he didn’t want to leave he could have been sat at home all day and said
I dont care that you have accepted an offer Im staying at home and not even talking to them.
He didnt as soon as he heard how much the pay cheque was he was off faster than ashley could lose a million in a casino
definitely both party were had their hands in the deal – both want money but it’s probably most down to AC , he could stay – manager want him , teammate love him and fans adore him so if the club don’t want him then there really fck all they can do. but if AC wanted to go then how could you to stop that and then stuck with the guy that didn’t want to be here anymore.
transfer request or not , he still gone.
about Hotshot on AC
Shearer said that AC will be great for ‘pool with Suarez and Gerrard and he also talked to Dalglish about AC months before – i read from my local web that was translated from BBC5Live so probably not 100% though
Blame has to lie with both Ashley and Carroll. Now I hope Ashley will reinvest the full amount into buying players in the summer.
well done to liverpool for refusing the sale of torres until they had a suitable replacement in – actually they got 2 didn’t they for a combined fee of over £57 million – wow’eeeeeee…
& what do we end up with ? – a mentally retarded footballer last seen playing a decent game of footy well over 2 years ago.
nice one fatty – another stroke pulled on the faithful.
We SHOULD have about £50m to spend in the summer but of course we will have nothing like that we’ll be lucky if we get £20m
hang on look at what LFC have actually done. They have built the preesure like a poker game. Raised the stakes to breaking point with 3 players in the mix. Ashley, Pardew & Carroll. They have money from Torres & Babel and can raise the stakes as much as they wish. Saurez is tied down at £20+m So there is at least £35m left to play with merely breaking even.
So every £5m is much more pressure on NUFC than it is on LFC. Even if they made a bid for £45m it’s only £10m net for a dream team strike force. At some point you expect someone to crack, and the fact again is any one of three can crack from our side. Whoever it was doesn’t matter. I expect it to be AC because MA is a serious player.
The Idea is to become solvant and over 5 years become a serious top 10 player. That meand we will buy 2 or 3 new players in the summer, and we will sell on for a massive profit if anyone is prepared to pay up.
The problem is now survival, which will be achieved. The headless chicken stuff late last night was stupid and fortunately unsuccessful. No one was going to help us, Harry, forget it. Whelan, stories about insomnia for god’s sake. Bentner possible but why should arsene help.
Better we go abroad in the summer. and expect this every window for a few years yet.
If we believe what we read then Carroll was pushed.
How does he know what the fans reaction was going to be if he stayed.
There are loads of fans saying it’s a great deal for the club if Ashley spends the money.
That’s down to Ashley not Carroll.
Once the club told Carroll the offer was too good to refuse then Carroll cannot be blamed for leaving.
Waddle, Beardo and Gazza all did the same.
Shearer never because the club knocked back all offers.
Simples
hate pic in the middle of banner right now
love captain though
hi all just want to say 1 thing ac did not want to leave newcastle i am a freind of his i for 1 was gutted to see him go ,
ashley told him in a meeting that if he did not leave he would rot in the reseves ap told him to leave as well so he not to be trusted to ,
us fans need act now and get ashley out of our club ,
beleave what u want lads but i promise u carrol is feeling rejected this morning but he has to get on with it ,
don’t know what to believe
guess we have to just get on with it like AC
and support the club that is all we can do
Redknapps comments are quite strange.
“Every time these clubs sell a player they seem to have to get the player to put in a transfer request to make it look like they did not want to sell him.”
Is he referring to both us and Sunderland. In my opinion, both incidents are almost identical. A club receives a great offer and a player is faced with a great opportunity, but the move is very controversial. That’s why the club and player work together publicly to ensure the deal goes through with both saving a little bit of face. However, Carroll’s texts going public clearly wasn’t part of the plan. It must be taken into account that the recipient of those texts was a Newcastle fan, so Carroll was always going to portray the situation in a certain light. Overall, there are three parties, two winners and one SHORT TERM loser. I will leave it up to you guys to who is who…
Absoulte bull shit magpie. Fact is we rejected £30 million frm liverpool. We then rejected £35 million. Then your ‘ friend ‘ handed in a transfer req. Then andy signs for liverpool.
They are the facts we know. There might be more to it. We dont know and prob wont ever.
Cant wait to hear carrol talk at a press conference and we see what he says.
For me he turned his back on our club. N i wont forget that.
Liverpool ???
128.000 reasons why the traitor handed in a transfer,pushed my arse..
he sold out for the money..
Johno Toon
I don’t think it is quite that simple. I believe both the club and player have played a major part in this. I don’t buy this, “We rejected both bids” nonsense from the club. Simply because 35.5million + add-ons is too good to turn down, but most fans wouldn’t accept it regardless of the fee.
el toro we rejected 35 mil , transfer req is handed in , n we get 35 mil plus add ons.
As i said there prob is more to it and we wont find out everything that was said etc etc.
Im looking foirward to carolls press conference. See what he says.
N 35 mil is a great price for him. Big question is how much will be re invested into the 1st team. Only then can i judge if its been a good deal for us.
big dave carrol is a judas plus there are nearly 40 mill reasons why he could of been pushed
aye toonsy get the the header sorted will ya
fk the lanky streak os pi$$..now lets all hope that ashley gives pards the money in the summer (i have my doubts) to go out and get a decent centre forward,or better yet sells up and fks off..
because hes fked reet up in all this aswel letting the traitor go with out having anyone in place,totaly insane
I know from my source that Ashley forced Carroll out.
Despite what you saw on TV with Carroll smiling, he was in bits behind the scenes.
He can’t turn up at Liverpool upset.
He has to win over the Liverpool fans and the second he was told to leave by Ashley he dug deep and moved on mentally.
I know, yous guess !
For me, if Carroll was forced out, why not release an official statement apologising to fans? He’s no longer part of Ashleys little regime and if there was dodgy goings on behind the scenes he could have came out and apologised whilst revealing he was advised by the club to hand in a transfer request. He’d have no issue with dropping Ashley in it should he care about the opinion fans will now have of him.
Money talks, he’s reportedly on 70/80k a week at the bin dippers. That’s a 50k rise on his former wage.
Money talks and he’s walked for it.
gutted at carrolls two faced behaviour but understand clubs stand if ashley turned down 35 mil before transfer request we have to give him benefit of the doubt until truth comes out shola steps up and leads the line andy carroll=francis jeffers
ice dog if ya reading iam sorry he is a snide
fk off bobby this is not the slave trade,if he didnt want to go he didnt have to simple..he sold out
Believe it or not, this short piece sums up our situation perfectly.
http://www.newcastle.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=230391
For a few positives, I read on here or elsewhere a French lad who had followed HBA’s career closely questioning whether Carroll was the right striker to play off him, that the balls he feeds and positions he takes require a quicker more agile striker. I also remember Carroll commenting that HBA was just amazing, different class. We have just pocketed 35 million for Carroll and we have HBA on a good contract for about 5 million, that is incredible. There has to be doubt about how much Ashley will spend in the summer, but if he spends a good chunk of it then we should be sweet.
Also we all should remember that Liverpool might be spending all this dosh but they won’t be in the CL next year and now with Chelsea re-stocking, Arsenal with a team to certainly go forward, Man U looking good for a while and Man. City with a bottomless pit of cash, forget Spurs, then Liverpool are going to well struggle for CL football the year or so after.
We, even with Carroll, had no chance of Champions League football. The interesting thing for us has to watch us slowly build and be able to give most teams a game. We have seen how ridiculous modern football again these last two days, until the influence of such huge money is really diluted we have got to get on with being a decent football club, with some young lads coming through and staying, great fans and a team that fights every game. That is it, that is football, the rest is spoiling bollocks. When a Russian who pressured oil workers out of their stakes in a privatising oil industry has such an influence over a Geordie number 9 the football world, the world, is f–ked.
Support the team, there is nothing else.
Pardew press conference at 1pm<<> things went so fast it was too late in the day too get a replacement ,andy handed in a transfer request and we got very good money for him ,there will be big investment on players in summer,and of course when summer comes tiote barton enrique will be of and cheap replacements in
Black&White China
Great post
Now THAT’S the Batty we all know and love! I thought you had gone soft, mate
The consequence of the transfer request is that on being sold the club DO NOT have to pay up Carrolls contract.
So AC WROTE OFF around 6 MILLION POUNDS by handing in that transfer request.
Now I ask you – could someone tell you (when they are going to get 35m) to sign a form asking for a transfer request, to give up 6 million you are entitled to, to go to another club you didnt want to go to – UNLESS YOU WANTED TO GO.
Andy Carroll SOLD OUT. He wrote off his entitlement as it would have stopped the deal going through, and he would get the mega contract. As I said yesterday – 80k a week is a lot of cash and if anyone was offered that it would turn your head.
He would have been better off by coming out and saying he left because it was a deal of a lifetime at this stage in his career – but he didnt and now he appears he is trying to mislead the fans to justify his guilt.
Thats the most distasteful thing for me – he has turned fans against NUFC which will destabilise us yet again – to try and make HIM look OK and to hell with all of the stupid fans.
Dave – Batty – youre right – he is a JUDAS
Just to be clear folks – I dont blame AC for wanting the mega contract, I dont blame the club accepting around 40m in their hand, I do not like AC peddling the story he was pushed – its utter tosh.
He, like most footballers these days, is only concerned about himself, about what he looks like, he appears not to care one single jot about what his protestations do to the club after he has gone.
JUDAS
I have Carroll the benefit of the doubt after allegations he was braying lasses.
Now think it could be true as he has proved how spineless he is and the fact his knackers are geet tiny
why would we want too buy a player back for double the price we sold him
fatty and lambarse are frekin idiots >>> no carrol no nolan goals either 
Moreno-gave him the benefit of the doubt because he was one of our players. Truth be told he doesn’t seem like a very nice lad off the pitch when he gets a few drinks in him. Maybe being Newcastles 9 at such a young age went to his head, strolled round Toon like he owned the place perhaps.
Could also explain him buggering off. Liverpool are in for him with a ridiculously over inflated fee and all of a sudden its “is that what I’m worth…well, after all, I am Andy f*ckin Carroll”
Apparently he wanted to renew his contract after hearing of interest from Liverpool, but the club weren’t willing so he decided it best to leave.
This, to me, is total bo**ocks from the club. The player and the club have clearly engineered this move, but Carroll has not held his end of the deal by keeping his trap shut. So now the club has been forced to retaliate. This could get quite ugly me thinks…
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/pardew_breaks_silence_on_carroll_sale_1_2999676
Batty i expect the lads to rally together the same way tey have over the last month while the Judas was out injuried.
Dont forget at the start of the window most folk on here agreed that in this day and age the players hold all the cards, and if he didnt want to move there would be fuk all MA and Co could do.
Well this shows me that the Judas did want to go as he had atlest £50000 reasons to go.
But he just didn’t have the balls to admit it and is taking the easy option and crying that he was pushed lol fuk he was easy pushed. Thank fuk he isn’t defending our country
magpie may aye thats preety much what i sed they would say
Asked about Carroll’s texts, Pardew told the Gazette: “What can I say? We didn’t force anybody to leave.
“I disagree with that point. He had a contract here for five years, and at some point it would get renewed, but for him to sign in October and it get renewed in January – where would it stop?
“Personally, I’m disappointed. He’s a lovely lad, and I really like him, but it was his decision, and you can’t change that.
“Was this about football? That’s what you have to ask. I don’t think it was.”
FKIN SELL OUT JUDAS
CNN were saying last neet that judas will be on 128,0000 a week
hitman are they all judases from gateshhed
hitman nothin would suprise me
plastic geordie batty
this was all about money carroll trying to get a better contract
feel sht to be fan right now
how could you do this to us
hitman
Posted February 1, 2011 at 11:09 AM
this was all about money carroll trying to get a better contract<<<< aye but fatty isnt inocent in this ,all fckin 4 of them were in it together
That article seems about fair enough to me, greedy fu-ker. They are right, how can you have someone sign a new contract in October and then just because someone comes in with silly money think that we should raise his contract to that level or near it. Bullsh_t. Greedy Bast-rd.
And we have to go with Pardew for now that the money will be spent in the summer, considering they were probably already planning on spending some cash this summer then that money would be saved and this money is like free money. Of course it could go bad but it could be alright, certainly fun watching some of that money being spent.
Now we just need Ranger to start banging in the goals, come on son!
None of them were innocent but the blame lands at the feet of AC. Agree with stardust 100%.
3 points tomorrow and ”who the fck is Andy Carroll?”
to right they were batty,all the fat fka has to say was come back at the end of the season and we will talk about a better contract…
didnt pards say last week that they might improve his contracr
My source reckons Carroll is in bits at the mo.
He’s going to make a full statement within a few days .
He did enquire to see if the Toon would improve his contract as he wanted to test how much the club wanted him.
He was told immediately to accept the offer from Liverpool .
Can’t understand why you think he should accept 40k a week when he’s being offered 120k.
Just like we hate Ashley, so does he.
hitman dont know m8 ,but rooney did it too man u and got what he wanted
BSno9 He signed the contract only a few weeks ago … why should the club be forced into paying him more money when the deal was done a few weeks ago.
Couldn’t give a sh*t if he’s in bits at the mo … he’s a money grabbing, backstabbing b*stard
he could have thought about Newcastle United and the fans more
booby sorry m8 could give a fck in bits ,my heeds shot man ,tell your souce too tell judas watch oot for them birds doon there ,there a lot harder than up here ,he might come unstuck
Pardew
“I went to see Andy, and face to face we had a conversation about him wanting a new contract, even though he signed on in October, and (he said) if he didn’t get that contract, he wanted to go.
“I asked him what he wanted, and I went to the board. We had a discussion about what the ramifications would be for the whole club.
“We took the view, with him signing a contract in October, that this would cause us all sorts of problems.
“We decided that we needed the conversation confirmed, and he put in a transfer request, which he did.
“He spoke to his agent, and between them they put the request in. We decided with the size of the offer, and what it meant to us, that we would accept.
Gotta disagree a bit there Hitman,
Any chairman, whoever they are, however deep their allegiance has to think long and hard about 35 million, coupled with what sounds like Carroll’s request for more or he’ll leave, that is bullsh-t. They in no way should be thinking or promising any renewal of a contract after he just signed one 3 months ago, just because a third party is prepared to pay stupid money.
No matter Carroll’s status here or potential, you cannot manage anything, a business or a classroom of kids, with that kind of policy, you cannot be manipulated by outside influences. If that story is true in the article above and it sounds likely, then of course the club has to think of the money, anybody would, but it comes down to Carroll and only Carroll. He has to take responsibility for that.
Batty you could be right that they all had a hand in it, but we allready knew what MA was like, but thankfully now we now that one of our own was no better, but even worse
loyalty in football is dead…
every newcastle fan on the planet would give there left nut to play for the toon,judas was living the dream..he sold us all out for money..thats unforgivable
He thought he was bigger than the club, he was playing us with ridiculous contract demands. He had done nothing to deserve a new contract. It shows him to be as bad as any other footballer.
HE TRIED TO PLAY US AND WALKED OUT ON THE CLUB HE “LOVED”
He will soon realise that it was the biggest mistake he will EVER make.
JUDAS
hitman do you know where his family live
Sadly, Pearceet probably hits the nail on the head.
all of AC texts
http://www.fansonline.net/newcastleunited/article.php?id=599
take it whichever you will
“Couldn’t give a sh*t if he’s in bits at the mo … he’s a money grabbing, backstabbing b*stard”
Spot on, I dont give a shit what he was offered, Is £40k a week really not enough for the privilege of playing for the club youve supposedly supported for your entire life.
I used to play unpaid sunday league with training twice a week in me spare time and work full time hours, Becuase i loved the sport and i boils my piss when people are actually paid incredibly well to fulfil my dreams and then take the piss out of it…
If the words of dirty leeds “Shit, Scum, Bastard”
na batty,bet they feel let down,but a cut of his 128,000 grand a week will softern the blow
but after every thing ,i think 35 40 mill will turn oot too be a steal for liverpool ,
In other words he didn’t really want to go and if we’d have offered him another contract he’d have stayed.
Cannot blame him for moving for more money, who wouldn’t?
all of AC text to his mate at toon talk
http://www.fansonline.net/newcastleunited/article.php?id=599
alan shearer stu
batty , really hope not coz it will killing us
all of AC text to his mate at toon talk
http://www.fansonline.net/newcastleunited/article.php?id=599
most of us would give our right testicle to play in a black and white shirt. He was on 40k and was living every young Geordie’s dream, to play in front of 52,000 Geordies wearing the no. 9 shirt and he pissed in our faces
Not sure about that Batty, he’s good but may be not that good. But, time will tell. This is his first half season and everything has turned to gold for him, quite literally now, not sure if that will quite be the case in the future. He is not a nailed on cert that 35 million should buy you, eg. David Villa.
FFS and shearer stick the knife into ashley
http://www.sportingpreview.com/prem_news/10110744.php
BSno9
man you talk some crap, I can’t believe people give you the time of day,
Hows Hughton doing at Chelsea?
Stuart79, I don’t think we can work on logic like that. Just because for someone money is almost no object, Abramovich at Chelsea, decides to gift Liverpool 50 million, who then can offer our main man a shed load of money doesn’t and shouldn’t mean we then offer him more money. We cannot, should not be moved into spending our money on the basis of somebody else’s wealth. No Abramovich, no Liverpool bid, Carroll is still here. Even with that bid, Carroll could have been still here, he chose not to be.
I Love Mike
Posted February 1, 2011 at 11:53 AM
BSno9
man you talk some crap, I can’t believe people give you the time of day,
Hows Hughton doing at Chelsea?….
but your giving him the time of day !!!! – mikey your a tit
as it happens i believe everthing bobby says.
Carroll will be playing for Liverpool with just the name “Roll” on the back of his shirt………..apparently the scousers have already stolen his “Car”
@MsiDouglas
All I’ll say, #nufc fans, is that you’re going to want to buy the Chronicle tonight. Fantastic Carroll stuff.
@MsiDouglas
Never mind the texts… Carroll has given his only interview to the Chronicle. Paper on the streets now. #nufc
what’s on Chronicle , anyone knows ??
I put myself in everyones shoes.
If I was Andy Carroll. I would look at the long term and stay loyal to my home town club. People may cry…..yeah right for 50k a week extra? But I wouldn’t even know that 50k extra was on offer, as I wouldn’t discuss terms and definately wouldn’t hand in a transfer request because Mike Ashley said he would like to receive over 35 million!
If I was Mike Ashleys I would have done exactly the same, especially not let some lad I have just given a 5 year contract to hold me to ransom a few months later.
Black&White China seems to be talking a lot of sense.
However, I am having real difficulty believing the player or club. I normally try not to over speculate, but it seems to me that both clubs, the player and his representatives are all in on this.
Problem is, it would seem Carroll has said the wrong thing to the wrong person and the club have now been forced to retaliate with their own version of the story. If this wasn’t the case then it would soon become a legal matter, but my money is on it being swept under the carpet soon enough.
to my question – I know now
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/02/01/andy-carroll-united-pushed-me-out-of-toon-72703-28092792/
to my question – I know now
AC’s interview on Chronicle
ANDY Carroll told the Chronicle how he felt he was pushed out of Newcastle United.
Following his £35m move to Liverpool, the Gateshead-born forward said he wanted to stay on Tyneside.
Today the striker poured his heart out as the club explained why they “reluctantly” allowed their prized asset to leave when he submitted a written transfer request after they initially rejected bids from Liverpool.
Carroll said: “I was in talks about a new contract and talking to the gaffer about that.
“He told me that they are now not going to give me a contract. That was as soon as the offer of £30m came in.
“So I asked why (I wasn’t getting a new contract) and he said his hands were tied.
“He said it wasn’t up to him. Then a £35m bid got accepted.
“And then I was allowed to talk to Liverpool. The owner then made it clear to me that I was not wanted at the club.
“Saying that his own helicopter is waiting for me to go down to talk to them.
“So being shown I’m not wanted I said OK I will talk to them. Then suddenly the bid was rejected.
“And then Derek asked me to hand in a transfer request. So I was pushed into a corner and had no choice.
“I wasn’t wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money.
“Then I flew down in his (Ashley’s) helicopter. I didn’t want to leave.
“I’m gutted that I wasn’t wanted at my home team after everything I’ve done and progress I’ve made.
“I didn’t want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn’t want to leave.
“The players, staff and fans were fantastic.”
at the end of the day he sold out,move on..
and lets hope to god sholla,best,ranger and lovenkrands can step up to the plate..
An analogy for this mess. In October I decide to buy a car from someone, I discuss the price with the owner and we both come to an agreement, both sides are perfectly happy. I’ve now got the car, the bloke who sold has no problems at all with the price, perfectly fair, perfectly happy. But what we haven’t done is change over the registration of the vehicle.
Then a few months later, some rich bloke sees me driving it and says he wants my car, I say, “sorry mate it’s mine”. He offers me stupid money for it, but I don’t want to sell it. But then he finds out the old owner, still is the owner as we haven’t changed the registration.
So the old owner says to me you can still have the registration but you’ve got to pay double or triple for it, at which point I tell him to fu-k off. He says alright but it is no longer your car. Now, I could pay him more, but will I fu-k.
all we can do is just move on
really sht to be fan – you can’t do anything but support the team
anyone think this story is going to end any time soon???
i dont buy that sob story in thr chron,if judas didnt want to go he didnt have to,lameass ashley could not force him out the club he had just signed a 5 1/2 contract,he had the power to say NO..
nice try JUDAS
blackand white china think you will fin the log book is not proof of ownership
The more I hear, the more I begin to believe Andy Carroll if I’m being honest. As Whumpie said, this stinks of an agent capitalising on the opportunism of our owner and the naivety of the player.
Batty.
So being shown I’m not wanted I said OK I will talk to them. Then suddenly the bid was rejected.
“And then Derek asked me to hand in a transfer request. So I was pushed into a corner and had no choice<<<< this could be right as we were told a 2nd bid rejected then were told judas had put in a request ,but it didnt take long too decide did it judas ,and you sneaky b@stards ap ma d l
would the unemployed homosexual window cleaner that’s suffering from dwarfism – shut his stupid f@cking gob please!!! – your talking complete shyte again.
Suppose it all comes down to who you believe. Carroll’s story obviously makes him look the victim and The circus clowns to again look like a bunch of complete w@nkers, but that was to be expected.
We’ll never know the truth.
black n white look it up ,thats what the coppers told me ,not proof of ownership ,i was glad when the guy didnt turn up at court
I asked why wasn’t I getting a new contract?
As you had 5 years to run on the one you signed 3 months ago…..you plank
El Toro, I think it comes down to one simple question, should we pay him more money just because someone else wants to give him more money, knowing that all parties were happy with the present deal just 3 months ago?
For the various points I have made, the answer for me has to be no. Whether a normal business, or a one with the emotion of football, you cannot be so influenced by outside sources. The responsibility was on those who agreed the contract in March and whoever moved the goalposts, and those people were Andy Carroll, his agent and Liverpool.
If there had been no bid, there would have been no new deal for Carroll. And, in my opinion, there shouldn’t have been.
roy which 1
They’re all liars, everyone involvedin the whole thing
I become more upset to think about the possibility that he’ll become a great striker one day
batty – short troosers
“They’re all liars, everyone involvedin the whole thing”
Yep, exactly. The club shouldn’t need to lie though. Just had to admit that the offer was too good to refuse, which is kind of the universal opinion on the transfer.
Carroll said: “I was in talks about a new contract and talking to the gaffer about that.
“He told me that they are now not going to give me a contract. That was as soon as the offer of £30m came in.
“So I asked why (I wasn’t getting a new contract) and he said his hands were tied.<<<< moreno you forgot the 1st bit
eltoro fatty and co have been lairers from the start of ownership ,it must be catching
Richie-that’s the top and bottom of it mate. One of them is a lying b@stard. Either Carroll, or Ashley was money hungry.
What I will say though that might be unpopular is that if everything Carroll has said is true, I don’t blame him for going. If at 22 youre simply told you’re not needed at the club and everything is arranged for you to be shipped out inside hours, you’re not gonna feel too special. Then Liverpool knock on your door with 80k a week and you’re off.
Either way, Carroll is a money grabbing liar or Ashley has again done the unthinkable. We’ll never know.
, Pardew today told the Chronicle: “There was an offer refused in the morning and then we received a second improved offer.
“Myself, Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias were having a discussion when Andy Carroll poked his head around the door and said he wanted to see me.
“I had the conversation with Andy. He said he wanted a new contract now that would make him the highest paid player at the club.
“This from a guy who had signed a new deal just a few months ago.
“I asked him what he wanted but he didn’t reply.”
no quotes from any of the players today ? – you normally cant shut the f@ckers up ! – are they all a bit pissed off with fat ash & his arse licking brigade – me thinks they are.
jesus christ this blog wasn’t working so I popped onto worky’s for the first time in a little while, it’s full of a simlar calibre of nonces as Ed’s ffs! That one went downhill quickly. Anyway, I- like most of us I expect- did not get a good nights sleep last night, mainly because of rage. Couldn’t stop imagining Andy in f*cking red banging em in in front of the scousers. Now that I’ve slept on it…I’m still pretty angry tbh… but can afford a bit of perspective. The main thing I’m relieved about is that we didn’t land N’Zogbia for 12 million f*ckin quid!!!! That would’ve wasted a third of the wedge we got for our prize asset. Looking forward to summer when we can reinvest the dosh in a fair market, hoping that Carr is rubbing his hands together at the thought of having a little more wonga to speculate with. I genuinely believe that Ash will spend the money in the summer, he knows it’s not worth him holding on to it because of the backlash. What will now happen is he only spends the £35 mil though, rather than that added to any of the other money he was supposedly gonna spend had we not sold Andy, which would have been roughly 10-15 mil I’d say. Fear not lads, we are not a one-man team and we will not get relegated. I’d say we may even stop-up in the top half. Hope yet remains.
and the end of the day iam realy pissed of there didnt sign another striker and had no intentions of doing
Either that, or somewhere in the middle of both stories. Carroll demands a new contract and the club say he isn’t getting one. Carroll says he’ll reconsider his future should they not give him the money he wants and he’s told he won’t be getting more and that his only option is to stick with one he has to submit a transfer request..
Batty, I didn’t just take the bit out of the quote I thought would shame him.
I just don’t understand why he requested a new contract if he was the victim he states. He thought that giving them an ultimatum would work and it backfired. he tried to hold his own club to ransom and I personally would have told him where to go
the press conference start yet ??
is there any chance to view it from abroad ??
Devon-that bid scared the sh!te out of me and I was so glad it didn’t go through. I was laughing at Fuller being liked with the scum last week after they got money for Bent but at the end of the day if thats how Pardew plans on spending the money it’s bloody worrying. Clearly clueless about insomnia’s last stint at the club? And for 12 million!?..thank god it was too late.
moreno what ive read is there were gonna talk aboot a new contract any way, so who knows not us
i hope judas thigh injury turns out to be really bad
judas worth more than rooney…reeto
this is gettin very messy
and war of words begin
now i’m kind of thankful for twitter
Hitman-good point. There was talk of us in the press about a week ago of us offering him a new contract to keep hold of him and doubling his wages to 60 a week
hitman – why dont you join me in boycoutting the club ?
apparently Ireland’s still 2 week away from playing
all ready have roy,ashley wont get 1 penny of my hard earned m8…
AP: mood here is not great. We’ve lost a friend & a good player. There’s disillusionment in everyone here – you can’t hide that #nufc
oh dear – is the dressing room about to be lost ?
pardew interview coming up after the break on SSN…
i hope not roy thats the last thing we need,could be a fkin disaster
What have I missed?
hope not
we were suffered too much
captain Nolan and nutter Barton to save the day Howay
give ma a new contract now if not i want to talk to liverpool..
andy carrol maybe 4 or 5 weeks away
toonsy – hell lots of fun
carroll was set for a new contract in the summer,fkin judas ba$tard
hitman there both gonna fight there own corner so he sed nowt we dont know
that report was right last week then 7 weeks oot
Interesting interview by pardew
There isgoing o be 3 stories to this , carrols side club side n the truth.
Be interesting if we do get the full 35 mil as promised by ashley. We know his promises r like,
N last;y i think andy has been very shot sighted in joining for liverpool. Liverppol r a club in decline. Didnt spend a penny yesterday just re investd torres n babel sales. They still need major re-building. Do we need major rebuilding? mmm time will tell
johno well we need a couple of decent strikers
where the fck is every 1 ,i divent wat too be depressed on me own
I read Pardew’s comments regarding the AC situation. Did he make any comments about other targets that were pursued or what they plan on doing moving forward with the money, etc.?
carrol interveiw coming up
Im here batty
well on my wa into work so be back on at 215
Yeah we need 2 new strikers but we dont have to re build ,
We dont have to replace the aging pair of gerrard n carragher.
We dont need a massive injection of pace.
We dont need a new defense.
We dont have to find a new manager.
wedont need two new wingers
We dont comoili in charge of bring in players n we kno his recrd at spurs.
In saying tha atleast they have someone in harge of bringing in players…12mil for zogs….ffs….
mds he sed they tryed too sign a couple but people were asking daft prices ,he also sed fatty promised him all the cash is too spend which i divent beleive
MDS aye he says we were in for 2 players but there clubs were asking far to much money
it’s gonna be fun
Johno,
think I would disagree about not having to rebuild, personally, I don’t think any of our strikers – baring Ranger purely based on his age and prospect – are Premiership quality.
I would seriosuly get rid of all our stirkers in the summer, baring Ranger, and invest in three stikers and a right winger. I would go for a couple of younguns and an experienced one
Connar Wickham
Ricky van Wolfswinkel
Nicolas Anelka
Something along those lines
carroll demands a new contract right now if hes not given one he wants to talk to liverpool,pardew tells him he will have to put that in writing..
who to believe eh
aye hitman pardews words ,and judas fell for it the thick c@nt
I would probably go with this
http://soccerlens.com/lies-what-andy-carroll-and-newcastle-arent-telling-the-fans/64987/?
I think we need to be careful with getting excited over Pardew saying that all the money is there to re-invest, doesn’t mean he will spend though.
The past windows have been all about the right player and the right deal, just because he have a bit of cash to play with I can’t see it changing.
Batty/Hitman cheers
Not sure i believe it either but if true, it will be fun to have some cash to spend in the summer. If spent properly, the club could really be set up for the long term. Glad we didn’t panic buy
The transfer request is within the request for a new contract. It is not a question of believing or not believing, they are interpretations of exactly the same event. Hours before transfer deadline is not the time to be discussing new contracts, once he asked for a new contract or he would go that was his transfer request. He can read it as them asking him to put forward a transfer request or they can say we want your position in writing so they can act formally. It is basically the same. If he hadn’t made his staying contingent on getting a new contract he could well be here now.
To repeat old ground, a contract was agreed 3 months ago, his request for a new one dependent on some other clubs offer was his transfer request, in spirit if not necessarily in fact.
ILM I totally agree with your statement regarding player recruitment. I’d keep Ameobi & Best as 5/6th choice strikers, sell Lovenkrands and bring in exactly who you said. Only assuming we could get Anelka for about £8 mil. Wickham for something similar, Wolfswinkle for £12 mil then have another 8 to play around with on the RW. Failing that, I’d love to see Carr locate players we know little about that turn out like Tiote. Very important we sign decent players to keep morale of the squad on a high. Sustained push for Europa next season is possible, looks like we’ll be competing with l’pool for that spot though the c*nts!
well said B/w china! Spot on
Pardew (in my opinion) came across very well in the interview, and I tend to believe his side of the story rather than the story from the money grabbing, back stabbing b*stard.
Pardew had to say that that all the money would be re-invested in the summer to keep us lot happy.
However every club in the summer will now know that we have £35m to splash which puts the selling club in the driving seat, and prices for average players will rocket.
He can’t win …
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