Bart-on his way?

Villa are rumoured to be monitoring Barton

News revolving around Joey Barton’s contract talks with NUFC are doing the rounds today after a statement from Joey’s agent Willie McKay to skysports.com

As always, there are multiple reports from different sources and knowing which one to believe is always going to be tricky. The original report from skysports seem to suggest that the club have point blank refused to offer Joey a new contract.

“I had a meeting with Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias and club secretary Lee Charnley and they have indicated Joey will not be offered a new contract,” McKay told skysports.com.

“Joey will continue to be a Newcastle player next season and then he will leave on a free transfer at the end of his contract.”

“Joey would have loved to have extended his stay at Newcastle, but unfortunately it is not to be.”

“Joey has loved his time at Newcastle and nothing will change his commitment for the club next season.”

“Obviously we will be monitoring the situation next January to try and find a new club for Joey as he can speak to clubs from abroad in January.”

Now we all know that if Joey isn’t signing a contract, the club aren’t going to let him leave on a free in 12 months. If he doesn’t sign, he will be sold in this window which makes those statements ridiculous and Willie McKay knows it. Let’s just flash back to the Steven Taylor saga too….sounds similar doesn’t it?

Other reports from sections of the local media connected to the club suggest that the same offer that was made in January has been on the table since and still is, whilst other sources reveal that Joey WAS offered a lucrative contract today and has dismissed it.

So to summarise, the first blow has been struck in the negotiations and anything can happen from here. In my view, there are 3 possible outcomes – Joey signs, Joey stays and leaves on a free or Joey is sold in the next window.

Personally, I just can’t see the Managing Director and club secretary meeting Willie McKay just to tell him we aren’t offering Joey a new contract so I would guess that there has been more dialogue and figures discussed than is being let on

What do you think? Are we losing our player of the season or is this just the first exchanges of a new lucrative contract being signed?

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266 thoughts on “Bart-on his way?

  1. Evenin’ lads.

    Is anybody else nearly biting their nails over this transfer window? I can’t stop reading articles online regarding all the speculation behind the Gameiro deal and the Gervinho deal. I really want to see both of these come through.

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  2. Moreno I just get the feeling that there is a real lack of trust to say we will re-negotiate πŸ˜•
    Ice I watched an Arry interview were he basically said that all managers worked the sameway now that they give the scouts names etc but after that it was up to the scout and the club to try to move forward and get the players the boss wants but that he has gotten players that he didn’t know he was getting.
    So I think it has changed and will keep changing

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  3. off topic i see the scum have been reported to F.A. by west ham for tapping up BA,hope they get screwed,bruce has always been known for it,must have been shown how to do it by fergie,but he doesnt get shopped πŸ˜†

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  4. @o Hurley

    I’m more concerned with the reality of losing Barton who is proven than the fantasy world you seem to be living in.

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  5. @Moreno

    You say;
    Or he could sign a 2 year contract worth over 4 million pounds?
    (with nothing to stop it being extended)

    You just don’t get this world of football do you?
    He’s a top professional footballer who has better choices than what you propose.

    Why would he want that offer when he can get better offers by seeing out his contract?

    That is what he and is agent are telling you all but you seem to think he’s bluffing. Why? πŸ˜•

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  6. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear Pardew tell us all that he’s going to step in and sort out the Barton situation like he did with Saylor, therefor strengthing Pardews position with the fans. Then when(if) Enrique goes the club, and the manager, can count on the “good feeling” created by Barton signing to dampen down most of the outcry from Enrique’s sale.

    How’s that for conniving way to get the fans behind the manager whilst also losing one of your best player’s? πŸ˜‰

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  7. bobby,

    I have the clubs best interest at heart.

    due to your blind hatred of the regime, you don’t understand

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  8. I’ve predicted all along that Jose would leave, then Barton and that would lead to unrest with Tiote, collo and Jonas .

    It hasn’t happened yet but yous will see what this regime is all about.

    The naive ones will be placated by some decent buys but it’s replacing like for like and it’s the ploy to fool yous all. Loads out, loads in on long contracts until all the squad are on small wages and long contracts.

    Then he’ll sell. That’s good as long as you can see what he’s doing but it’s not about progression year on year like some believe.

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  9. @Moreno

    Let’s agree to that I’m experienced and you are not. Fair?

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  10. @pit pony

    I say, like I’ve said all along, this club don’t offer incentives to big players.

    They’ve enticed HBA in but he was unsettled in France . On the face of it, any player looking at NUFC from the outside will be attracted because of their recent European history and the size of the stadium and crowds. It takes a season or so to understand that the club is not like what it says in the brochure.
    I don’t care what anyone says, all top teams have a nucleus of long term blue chip players.
    We are now selling ours or atleast that is what will happen.
    Can’t have success that way, unless Ashley knows something different to Fergie, Wenger and redknapp.

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  11. @Moreno

    You actually got out that hole did you? I thought you were a gonna. πŸ˜†

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  12. @Moreno

    You ok down there? It’s a bog hole you’ve dug dug dug dug ug ug ug g g g g……g

    Did you hear the echo there? πŸ˜†

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  13. JerseyGeordie

    Re your observation re Booby Clingon Number None

    “. My guess is that your probably a coward in the real world and so take out your frustrations over the safety of the net.”

    Bang on fella – he’s a little scoop haired creep!

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  14. @Moreno

    Can you deny that I predicted this last year and before but emphasised it over the sale of Carroll and after.

    It is like hitting a barn door at 70mph and seeing it coming. But you and many can’t.

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  15. Just an alternate, light harted, opinion. After all that’s what the blogs all about.

    I can actually see both sides of the arguement, as I’m sure 90% of the people reading do, but when it goes round and round in circles between a couple of people it gets a bit boring and I wish a new article would appear or a new topic of conversation.

    Anyhoo, I’ve gotta go and hand over my shift. Tetty bye πŸ™‚

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  16. hmmmm, think you are tarring me with the wrong brush there mate,

    but craic on if it makes you happy

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  17. We havn’t learned much about Pardew yet. Once we start next season and we see who he has signed and who is sitting on the bench ect, then we will know him much better.

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  18. @stardust

    Im sure I saw Toonsy driving your red bus today.

    I saw him turn the crank at the front, dash into the drivers seat, toot the horn and balloons came out the exhaust, the lights fell out but were on springs and the horn was playing the theme tune to summer holiday.

    Toonsy was fizzin! His dickie bow was spinning faster than Owl Heeds roulette wheel and everyone was throwing custard pies at him!

    Woo hoo hoo hoo hoo πŸ˜›

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  19. @pit pony

    You are always welcome to use your imagination and post something which might create an alternative debate. You don’t always have to rely on others .

    Myself and Moreno are pleasantly debating and other conversations are allowed to take place around us or you can join in. πŸ™„

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  20. @DJG
    You say;

    We havn’t learned much about Pardew yet. Once we start next season and we see who he has signed and who is sitting on the bench ect, then we will know him much better.

    I’m starting to learn he has zilch influence over Ashley. You not?

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  21. ‘The result of your idea will be that one of the few players at the club will run down his contract and still be 29 yrs old when he leaves the club. That is the age when players hit their prime’

    Lol. Defoe is past his prime at 28, and Ashton retired then.

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  22. @DJG
    Your right! How didn’t I think of that? Players have ended their careers early!
    George Best was 28!
    Tony Green 28!
    van Basten 28!

    So, are you telling me players aren’t in their prime at 29 yrs? Hmmm.
    Maybe it was an illusion that Defoe was selected for the England squad last time I looked.

    Answer the question. Do the vast majority of players not hot their prime from 27-30 yrs? Yes/No?

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  23. Bobby Shinton number 9
    Posted May 25, 2011 at 11:46 PM

    I’m starting to learn he has zilch influence over Ashley. You not?

    What manager ever has much influence over the chairman and owner? The manager draws up a list of what he would like and then the money men look at it and umm and ahh. Depending on how flush the club is they will go after targets. Ultimately it is up to Lamearse who the club sign and precisely why Ashley put tight-fisted casino man in charge. It’s his money and we wants to look after it. Pardew is just another cronie, he’s in on the whole act and knew when he accepted the job what it would entail.

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  24. @DJG
    You say ;

    The fact is, it depends on the player.

    I say;
    It can do. Do you think Joey Barton falls into the category you suggest ?

    Yes/No?

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  25. 26-27. I would say 30 you are past your prime, unless CH or goalkeeper maybe, of which Barton is neither. Most wingers are past their prime at 30.

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  26. @DJG
    You say;
    I’m starting to learn he has zilch influence over Ashley. You not?

    What manager ever has much influence over the chairman and owner? The manager draws up a list of what he would like and then the money men look at it and umm and ahh. Depending on how flush the club is they will go after targets. Ultimately it is up to Lamearse who the club sign and precisely why Ashley put tight-fisted casino man in charge. It’s his money and we wants to look after it. Pardew is just another cronie, he’s in on the whole act and knew when he accepted the job what it would entail.

    I say;

    Exactly.

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  27. I don’t think Barton will age that badly though, which is why im puzzled you following this obscure line of inquiry. In terms of losing pace, Barton doesn’t have much to begin with. His playing style shouldn’t suffer much with age. The real questions here are the politics between Barton, Lambias, Ashley, agent and the last signings of the last regime. As mentioned previously on this thread.

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  28. @DJG

    You say ;

    26-27. I would say 30 you are past your prime, unless CH or goalkeeper maybe, of which Barton is neither. Most wingers are past their prime at 30.

    I say;
    The greatest players reach their prime, particularly midfielders at 27 – 30 and there is no dispute over the well educated in football. But the great midfield players can continue to blossom 2 or 3 more seasons longer by using their expeience.
    Cantona, Scholes, giggs, Beardsley, hoddle, Brady, zidane, platini.

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  29. Bobby

    If you are so against the way the club is run etc, why do you bother supporting the club? I dont know if you go to games but if so why would you give the ‘cronies’ your hard earned money if you have so much hate for them?

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  30. @DJG
    You say;
    I don’t think Barton will age that badly though, which is why im puzzled you following this obscure line of inquiry. In terms of losing pace, Barton doesn’t have much to begin with. His playing style shouldn’t suffer much with age. The real questions here are the politics between Barton, Lambias, Ashley, agent and the last signings of the last regime. As mentioned previously on this thread.

    I say;
    That is my point. He will still be in his prime in a years time cos he won’t age badly .
    It was you who implied Defoe wasn’t in his prime at that age hence Barton may not be.
    Now you are changing your tune and saying you don’t think Barton will age badly.

    You are all over with your points. πŸ™„

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  31. Defoe and Barton are two completely different players. Defoe has to be able to beat people with bursts of pace ect. Barton doesn’t.

    ‘You are all over with your points.’

    Refer to where I said,

    ‘The fact is, it depends on the player.’

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  32. @AndrewNUFC
    You say;

    If you are so against the way the club is run etc, why do you bother supporting the club? I dont know if you go to games but if so why would you give the β€˜cronies’ your hard earned money if you have so much hate for them?

    I say;
    You always ask me this question when I criticise the regime.
    I answer you the same way every time . This time I request you remember what I say instead of forgetting like a prize gold fish. πŸ˜† πŸ˜‰

    I have been going to the Toon matches since I was 11 yrs old. Me and my mates in the old stadium with no roof over the gallowgate or leazes.

    Stood amongst crowds averaging 16k but as low as 10k.

    I’ve witnessed all sorts of managers, owners, chairmen over the years.

    I am 43 yrs old and have not lost any of my passion.

    I know from your posts that you are young and have never witnessed the eras I have.

    I see a lot of things in Ashley as I did in mckeag in the 80s.

    The only difference now is sky tv ploughs vasts amounts of money into football which disguises the lack of ambition by our owner.

    I strongly believe, through my experience, Ashley has no ambitions to take us any further than premier survival and use us as an advertising board for sports direct.

    He is happy with us being a mid table side, with no interest in the fans, the progression of the club cos that would eat into his profits.

    We are an advert for sports direct and it’s working . Profits are rising by Β£500m since the crash yet we see no further investment in the club. The opposite. Our best players are being treat like his staff at sports direct and being offered the minimum wages in premiership terms.

    I find it difficult when others can’t see it and dream that one day ge might change.

    He won’t. 10 yrs time we will still be mid table if he is still here, and raking in the revenue from the fans and tv. πŸ˜₯

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  33. Bobby, does Ashley have a potential buyer already lined up, or is he relying on the dominoes falling into place once he’s made it ready for sale?

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