A sign of how thorough the “new” Newcastle are?

Dan Gosling

Dan Gosling
Gosling's dodgy transfer.
I was reading something earlier, which wasn’t really very interesting by the way, about Dan Gosling and his impending return from his long term injury.

I say it wasn’t really interesting as it was the same kind of fluff that we tend to get when it comes to players returning and how they want to make their mark on the first team and so on. In the case of Dan Gosling it may be a valid point given that we’ve only seen him play for five minutes since he joined last summer, but it did set me off thinking about something completely unrelated.

Transfers!

Can anyone remember just how Gosling ended up at Newcastle? If you think back you will remember that it was something to do with some unheard of loophole that the player and Newcastle both exploited to their advantage. Everton were unhappy as they knew nothing of it until it dawned on them that they had unwittingly dropped a clanger.

As a result we ended up with an England U21 international for a fee of nothing. Good bit of business eh? Unethical? Possibly. Cheeky? Definitely, especially considering that Everton had offered the lad a contract, albeit they failed to offer him the contract in the right way which triggered this random piece of legislation that allowed Gosling to walk away from Goodison Park free of charge.

Canny business, aye?

Fast forward twelve months and it would appear that Newcastle have been at it again with Yohan Cabaye. Now I realise that the deal isn’t officially done yet, although I expect it to be concluded after this group of international fixtures, but with both Cabaye and his current manager stating that the player is coming to Newcastle I would tend to believe that there is some truth in it.

Cabaye is highly rated in France, to the point where many French journalists simply don’t understand why he would be willing to drop down to a club such as Newcastle. Money will play a part of course as the wages that we offer, even with our alleged wage cap ๐Ÿ˜† far exceed what the vast majority of French clubs pay.

Look at his transfer fee though. Cabaye has been touted at ยฃ10 million plus before, yet we’ve got him for half the price due to a release clause in his contract which automatically means that any bid matching that valuation would have to be accepted. The rest, as they say, is history. Well hopefully it will be history anyway.

Look at Hatem Ben Arfa aswell. He cost about ยฃ7.5 million when you take into account his loan fee aswell. For a player that two years previously was being touted around at ยฃ30 million plus, that is good business.

In a way a lot of this is down to good scouting and in-depth research. Newcastle are clearly taking great care in the transfer market and are being thorough with the players that they are targeting. I like that. In fact I like that a lot.

It means that we end up getting the better players for a tiny percentage of what they would be worth on the free market which I’m happy with. I’ve never been one to care if a player costs 20 pence or ยฃ20 million as long as they are adding to our first team, so if we can get more for our money it’s all good.

Of course there will come a time when we have to spend that bit bigger, but in the meantime if shopping in the bargain bin means picking up players like Cheik Tiote, Hatem Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye for a combined fee of ยฃ15 million then let the cheapness continue.

Thorough scouting, at Newcastle? How preposterous!

146 thoughts on “A sign of how thorough the “new” Newcastle are?

  1. It was 0-0 Spencer. He made some good saves and deserved his clean sheet. Neymar and Affelay were very impressive as well.

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  2. suppose, I really like Simpson, and wouldnt mind him being are right back for the next 7 or so years if he keeps improving. Also i agree Jonas would help him out alot, and next season if we sign zoggs he will be out on the left, if not I would like to see ferguson get more chances.

    On Enrique we heard any news on him recently? I still think he will go mainly becasue he didnt get a Spain call up.

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  3. Well Tim Krul has done himself proud tonight , i watched the second half and he made some very good saves ,in the post match interview bert van marwijk was full of praise for the lad as was Van Basten and Van Bronckhorst in the studio .Well done Tim

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  4. El T

    Is Cabaye that good? I’m looking forward to learning about him – my knowledge of foreign leagues is almost zero

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  5. stardust, join the club ๐Ÿ˜†

    We get linked with all the foreign players, and most of the time all i have to go off is a youtube video. ๐Ÿ˜†

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  6. My skins creeping

    Cwarr just tweeted info without credit to the original poster re Boukary Drame (as if it were his own info) whereas another user had already said it (and Cwarr had retweeted the same user earlier just to make sure he really embarrassed himself – yikes ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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  7. Stardust

    He looked good in the Europa. He is a natural footballer. Best way I can describe him.

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  8. Stardust

    What did Cwarr tweet? Let me guess, “NUFC are close to agreeing deal for Gervinho+Cabaye+Gameiro+Hazard”…(yawn)

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  9. As far as ability is concerned Neymar was impressive. Unfortunately like most South American players, he does tend to dive and go down very easily as you said Axel.

    With regards to Cabaye I also think he could be an upgrade on Barton for he has good technical ability as well as good vision and work rate. What I do think though is that behind the scenes Barton is very important to this club and that may be something that Cabaye won’t bring to the team. Both would benefit the team though and I’d want both of them here next season.

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  10. Cwarr07

    Hearing that #nufc have made contact with Souchaux re Boukary Dramรฉ

    5 mins before it Football_Agent9
    Boukary Dramรฉ … Once Enrique goes #NUFC

    Cringing for him!

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  11. shyte, why did I think we were on about a LB? ๐Ÿ˜†

    my mistake..

    This lad Boukary Drame…

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  12. I was also given information yesterday as to the identity of Craig Coozy – his info (if directly from him and not an imposter) is well founded – and he is a person of good standing and character.

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  13. No Update Wisey Spencer?

    Thought you’d have him You Tubed up by now.

    Always astonishes me that people drool over players they’ve never seen just because they have a foreign name.

    Can’t say they’d be drooling if we were after Jimmy Jones or someone

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  14. Dont think they will have a video on him, ill have a serch now though ๐Ÿ˜›

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  15. Some of the stuff on here tonight has been hilarious. A real joy to read through after a hard long day at work. Hats off sirs ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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  16. I think i put up a good debate for a lad who’s still learning ๐Ÿ˜‰
    It’s been abit quite tonight, Nufc mad hasnt been much better, ive lowerd my self to a conversation with red custard ๐Ÿ˜†

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  17. Hi Newcastle
    I’ve watched this posts lots and enjoy, not post now until. Are your thoughts impressed of french joining the club with Ligue 1 standard. We know Lille upset you pick her player. Thankyou

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  18. The twitter guy just talks shit anyway, I don’t know why people actually humour him.

    What will be will be this summer and I’d be happy if we bought the players that we were told would ‘get us out of our seats’.

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  19. Jaques-I think we’re all hoping for Gervinho and Cabaye to sign, they seem very impressive players although I haven’t seen that much of them ๐Ÿ˜›

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  20. Stuart…agreed, why thousands upon thousands pay them attention is astounding, but then again when you hear nothing I guess you get frustrated. To be fair they’re about as believeable as the rags ๐Ÿ˜€

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  21. Looks like were set to sign Neil Taylor from Swansea for ยฃ1 million.

    Apparently Swansea are bemused as to how we found out about the clause he has which we activated.

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  22. I got blocked from Cwarr07 for having a go at him ๐Ÿ˜†

    Thing is, most of the people on there who make stuff up are about as reliable as footy rumours.

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  23. Aye Spencer…papers have always been full of sh1t but we discuss their rumours regardless, twitter is just another stage in it all.

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  24. God knows how we are going to structure our midfield next year. Glad it’s not my decision.

    About the only guy in the team who would always get a spot is Tiote as he is the only one like him. Gutti and Barton can do the right. Barton and Cababye the box to box central, Gutti and Fergi on the left and Nolan and Ben Arfa behind the striker. A proper right wing would certainly strengthen us and leaves us in a good position to negotiate with our players coming off contract.

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  25. Newkie, I always try my best to aviod the arguments and debates,cos at the end of the day, we havent signed anyone until its on the NUFC.co.uk website.

    Also I try to ignore the rumours, but I just cant, I hate to be filled with so much hope just to be let down

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  26. Exactly, need to wait for club confirmation, even with the player and the manager saying he’s coming here he’s not a toon player yet.

    And ditto, I know Cwar and the rest are chatting sh1t, but its still interesting, just like it is in the paper, even if its summit as unreliable as the mail.

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  27. Newcastle are set to ยญcomplete the ยฃ1m signing of ยญSwanseaโ€™s Neil Taylor.

    Defender Taylor who was sent off inside two minutes against ยญNottingham Forest in the Championship semi-final first leg play-off is expected to sign a four-year deal.

    However the move has ยญinfuriated newly promoted Swansea who are baffled how ยญNewcastle discovered that Taylor has a ยฃ1m buy-out clause in his ยญcontract.

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  28. Jesus Ashley must have a decent spy network to find out all these things…

    Apparently Neil Taylor can also play left mid? Anyone know if he’s ever played left back? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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  29. Someone said earlier about Collo playing well in centre mid and in fact I saw he play there a few years ago. I went to a Malaga match and it was at home to Deportivo La Coruna. Collo, lined up as an attacking midfielder and he was brilliant in that position. He can play their but he’s played as a CB for a while now. But he was brilliant in that game

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  30. Goose-Aye apparently he’s played the defensive mid role there before, but attacking mid? Blimey. Though doesn’t surprise me with his technical ability, he can beat a man and pick out a pass, quality player all round really.

    Dan-Definitely, is it greedy to be disappointed we couldn’t grab Ashley Williams in the same deal as well? ๐Ÿ˜€

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  31. Axel, yeah, just what we need as well as the Cabaye’s and hopefully Gervinho’s.

    Good young squad player who will hopefully develope ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  32. Haha, I seem to remember him going forward and having a shot. Joining in with the attacks. Yeah he was superb, when I first found out we were going to get him, my dad said we saw him play at Malaga. He’s a brilliant player. Yeah I think a few times he did play defensive mid but I defo remember him as attacking mid that game

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  33. That’s awesome ๐Ÿ˜ฏ Really hope we can keep colo for good, such a good player. Even if we somehow got ourselves a better defender in a couple of years we could keep him and play him on any part of the pitch :mrgreen:

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  34. Haha, you are amazed aren’t you Newkie? So do I, I think he might even become captain for us one day, he organises the defence really well and gives out orders.

    I think Collo has shown some of that attacking mind when he scored that goal against spurs. Perhaps we should try him upfront?

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  35. I shouldn’t really be surprised as he is an Argie ๐Ÿ˜› Captaincy is certainly a huge possibility-people had touted Barton for a future role, but will he even be here? And whilst Nolan will retain it for next season, if/when he starts to take up more of a sub role then Colo is our only other experienced player, apart from Harps who probably won’t be first choice after next season either. He organises well, although perhaps lacks the nouse of how to approach situations with the ref like nolan seems to. Still, he’s probably picked up some from Nolan, and I’d imagine his english is pretty good after three seasons as well.

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  36. Was bloody tempted to play him up front after the Spurs goal, couldn’t see any of our strikers finishing with that kind of skill, unless it was a Bambi wonder moment ๐Ÿ˜€
    Aye Moreno-Soon we’ll have our own “total football”, Colo and Staylor making incisive forward running and providing most of our goals :mrgreen:

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  37. Haha Moreno, I agree!

    I’m not sure but I could see Collo staying with us for a long time, he seems really settled and has improved so much since he joined us. Not sure if Barton would be here, but sometimes I’m worried when Barton is captain, I see him losing his cool when Nolan’s not around. Yeah Collo has learnt a lot from Nolan as well.

    It was a great finish and I think that’s what Pardew wants to see a bit more of. If Collo and Staylor start scoring goals then they could become a double act upfront. It’s nice to have different positions help with goals, shows that we have players who can do that

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  38. Goose-Agreed, I’ve said before when Barton has been captain sometimes he works himself up too much. That was certainly the case earlier in the season, however in the last two games i thought Barton basically ran the game and showed good leadership ability. Still, doesn’t look like he’ll be with us for too long ๐Ÿ™

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  39. Yeah I’ve noticed that before. I agree with you, the last two games he seemed to lead the team really well and didn’t seem as worked up as he gets some times. Do you think he’s going then? I have a feeling that he will leave, he’s not happy at the deal he was offered. I’m not sure where he would go though. It would be a shame if he left, he’s been a brilliant player this season

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  40. I think Barton is a pretty genuine bloke, he’s still a footballer and the bottom line is you can’t believe anyone, but I think Barton really does love the club and does want to stay. When he said he was going to dig his heels in and stay for this season I do believe him, but then it depends on what opportunities he is given. I’ve no doubt Ashley would like to be rid of him, and so may lean on Pardew to sell/not use him to irritate him to the extent where he’ll agree to a move. I’m sure Pards wants to do his own thing and play him…but this might show just how much bottle and power Pardew actually has at the club.

    My guess is that Joey is gambling he’ll have another good year and the bosses will see they can’t lose him for free next summer and will therefore agree to his contract/at least offer an improved one. If he earns it it would be an insult for the club not to offer him one, and they’d lose a fair amount of support from the fans-but losing support doesn’t seem to bother them that much, and I wouldn’t be hugely surprised to see them not offer him anything or try and push him out. Would absolutely love it if he stayed though, he’s a quality player with a fair bit left in him. This regime decided to hold onto Smith and Butt for however long and no offense to them but they offered little, when in Barton, even if he doesn’t start every game is an international class player who could change a game.

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  41. Yeah I agree with you, I can tell he loves the club and wants to stay. It all depends on what happens in the next few weeks and over pre-season. That might give an indication into what is going on with him.

    I could see that ashley may want to get rid of him as he has caused trouble before whilst he’s been at Newcastle. But to be fair to Barton he has turned his life around. I think this has been the first season that he has been able to show his ability to everybody. Like you say, he has a few more seasons left that he would be able to play. They should have moved on a long time ago those two players, we don’t need Smith no more and I could see us cashing in on him. Barton is above those two, has tremendous ability.

    We’ll just have to wait and see.

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  42. Yeah exactly….I mean theres two sides to every story, and people can say if he cared about the club he’d just accept the three year deal and then sign on for extra years after that. It makes sense as well…no doubt Barton’s greedy agent is looking for a cut of a transfer fee or signing on fee, but keeping your best players is as important as bringing in new ones, or you just got nowhere. Can only hope for now like

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  43. Ahh. the signing of gervinho will get me through my exams a happy person if it happens, fingers x’d

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  44. Just finished my own exams…I think gervinho is a decent reward for all my hard work… ๐Ÿ™„ :mrgreen:

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  45. 141
    Newkie
    Posted June 5, 2011 at 1:56 AM

    Yeah exactlyโ€ฆ.I mean theres two sides to every story, and people can say if he cared about the club heโ€™d just accept the three year deal and then sign on for extra years after that. It makes sense as wellโ€ฆno doubt Bartonโ€™s greedy agent is looking for a cut of a transfer fee or signing on fee, but keeping your best players is as important as bringing in new ones, or you just got nowhere. Can only hope for now like

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    There’s 3 sides to a story mate. The club version, Joey’s version; and the truth!

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