Who is the bigger gripe with?
Each person who dislikes the pair running our club at the moment has their own reason for it. For some the relationship between fan and board is beyond repair and the wound will only start to heal when the pair of them leave Newcastle for good.
The fans are split, maybe not 50-50, but there is a definite chasm between two sets of fans. The common ground is that they all want what is best for NUFC although the sticking point seems to be how to go about it and who they would like to implement it.
This division between fans is not great to be honest, but it’s something that will go on and on until everyone is happy. Unfortunately that very rarely happens in life, and at Newcastle United it’s even more of a rarity. In fact the only two times in my lifetime the fans, board and team have been pulling on the same direction was under Keegan’s first spell and then again briefly under Sir Bobby, although even what he achieved wasn’t good enough for some and he became a victim of a minority of boo-boys.
I’m digressing now so I’ll get back on point….. The rift between fan and board is beyond repair for some, but it doesn’t mean that things can’t be made that little bit easier. To do that though you need to pinpoint the main part of the problem and eradicate it. For that problem is Derek Llambias.
Now let me clarify before I get some smartarse legal eagle on my case. By eradicate Derek Lambias I don’t mean kill, murder, injure or anything like that. I purely mean get him out of his comfy MD chair at St James’ Park and get him back to doing whatever it is he does best. If I was to guess at what he does best I’d say it would be looking sleazy, acting sleazy and generally being a sleaze.
I can’t stand him. I think he is an odious horrible man with a complex ego and an arrogant persona. In the world of football he’d should fit in well, but for some reason he just doesn’t.
Now I know a lot of people despise Ashley for all he has done and his past actions and so on, but at least he has the ability to put things right. Llambias doesn’t. Can somebody please tell me what he does other than repeatedly put his foot in it?
Now whilst the rift may be too big for some, I personally believe that by replacing Llambias with someone better would give a welcome boost to many fans. Think about it. People liked Chris Mort, and still do, yet he was up to the same old shady stuff that Dekka is. He was just infinitely more likeable in the process of doing so!
Llambias is the one who is responsible for the day-to-day running of the club. He makes the decisions and sorts the contracts. Naturally he’ll be under guidance from above, but you can bet that it’s him who is making these contract offers that are getting turned down.
That is why I think Llambias is the biggest part of the problem. Ultimately the decision is at the top as Ashley hired him, but to try and make amends he should also fire him and get someone in who can engage with fans and not be a general buffoon. It’ll never happen though as Llambias is somehow trusted by Ashley.
Stiil, it was nice to get that off my chest
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So what’s the point of the article? Is it likely to achieve anything other than add fuel to the embers of discontent?
Face it, fans’ anger’s only gonna make them dig in.
This window’s an ópportunity for them to help build bridges with the fans so i’d suggest best have not posted the article.
However, i do agree that llambias comes across as the least personable of the two. But, that’ll never change so teeth gritting and tongue biting’s called for.
Ashley is certainly the BIGGEST, mind you llambias has got a bit of a belly aswell
…. coat..
I dunno lesh. I mean if this is to be a summer of the owner clawing back some credit then I think the article is highly topical as there is another idea contained within whereby Ashley can claw back that bit more credit
Plus this was mentioned the other day and it seemed to engage a fair few people. Sorry if its not to your taste. Perhaps you could contact me in the mornings to suggest topics that you would like to talk about?
The biggest problem is Ashley, he hired Llamsarse, he let’s him continually put his foot in it. Delboy is an idiot and can’t help it, Ashley is a cnut but not an idiot yet he still employs him, the “problem” of DL can only be solved by Ashley and he is therefore responsible for and is the cause the “problem”
I agree toonsy, it is a opportunity for ashley to redeem himself but i’m to be cònvinced that Llambàsting his md, whom he appointed is gonna cònvince him to park llambias. He (llambias) ís ashley’s public face and there’s no way he’ll want to be seen as having appointed a pup!
Richie I understand and sort of agree with what your saying, But maybe Fatman doesn’t see all the bad side’s of Lambsarse that we do, maybe MA just thinks that we are just complaining about everything and is to close to Lamb to see that there is a problem with him.
I have always said that MA would be alot better off if he got someone in to replace Lamb as I believe that Lamb and the way he goes about things is the biggest problem at the club.
But as Rich says its MA that employs him
I don’t think there’s a problem with either of them to be honest.
What are they doing wrong?
Some fans have got to accept that we can’t do a Man City and we can’t compete with the brand that’s known as Man Utd .
What we are doing though is, moving forward at a nice steady pace and if we continue to do so, we can expect to be up there with those teams, at least fighting on the same front.
Now that’s down to Ashley and co and everyone connected to the club.
If the beef with them is about the past, then you will always have a beef with them no matter what they do.
I’m well happy with the way things are going and i’m not stupid enough to be sitting here hanging onto every piece of bad press or some certain fans that want to crucify them, just because they’re fair game.
If your beef is because they don’t come out and publicly tell you that you getting this player and that player, then there’s nothing i can say, other than, how many chairmen/owners actively come out and speak of transfers?
Answer: Very few if at all, it’s left to those they put in charge I.E, Managers and Coaches.
A lot of the stuff that goes tits up at Newcastle in relation to transfers breaking down, it’s always Ashley and co that get it in the neck.
The thing is though, no one knows what goes on behind the scenes and no one knows what really happens when transfers break down, it’s all guesswork but it’s piss easy blaming the man who has always took the brunt and that’s Ashley.
Some people can see the good he’s doing for this club and many can’t simply because they would rather sit with blinkered vision.
Ashley or Llambias can’t win with some people because , if we signed 10 players next week, all internationals for £100 million, you can guarantee certain fans would shout ” yea but he’s only done that to sell them on for profit”, and if he buys cheap players like Tiote quality, he will be branded a skin flint who is taking chances on unknown players that he can’t lose on money wise.
What the fuck does the man have to do to get even an ounce of recognition of some fans?
This is one thing that’s always pissed me off to be fair because if it wasn’t for him, mark my words, we would be in one hell of a mess right now .
The simple answer is, there’s nothing wrong with Ashley and Llambias that isn’t wrong with anyone else in planet football worldwide.
I agree, it’s more Llambias than Ashley but personally I don’t mind either of them
Cabaye confirmed by club?
Chris_Conway Chris Conway
by MsiDouglas
@MsiDouglas – Cabaye 100% confirmed. As nufcTV subscriber & app user, they’ve already uploaded a blank vid titled “Cabaye first interview”.
4 minutes ago
Anyone with NUFC TV that can verify this?
bring back chris mort!
i don’t think this is a constructive article at this point in time.
in fact, given all the events (and I mean ALL) of the last two seasons, I don’t think we should have a problem with either of them.
HWTL
To be fair, I dont feel I can say a bad word about Ashley, he kept this club we all love alive by pumping millions into it when we were relegated.
Toonsy, just been looking at Barton’s twitter account, did you know he is following the blog twitter. Probs a silly question as you see all the stuff anyway, but good to see. Just have to get him on here at some point or get an interview
Dave….but we see it because it makes the press so I’m 100% sure that Ashley does to, but it would appear he stays loyal to his “mates” which is usually aa admirable thing but in such a high profile job it’s madness imo.
3hourswasted;
http://yfrog.com/h8x0bpvj
Batty is a bigger problem than both IMO
The Cabaye link that 3hourswasted mentioned
http://t.co/yd4Kwei
I typed a long carry on over this Ashley thing and it says it’s waiting to be moderated, does that mean it won’t be seen until it’s been looked at?
Wolfie, I knew wede meet again
Wolfie, it’s because you said a naughty word
Si – its easy to sit on the sidelines and heckle but I agree with Lesh.
Maybe the article could have been slanted from a positive view rather than only a negative outcome?
Just my two penneth
Spencer lol it was inevitable hahahaha
I agree with jay
Ahh right dan, yea i did say 3 naughty word, not bad though
it was, but toonsy isnt as much of a kunt as them other ones, still hes a kunt
Wolfie…if it’s as long as your usual posts it may take a day or two to read through
Nahhh Richie , this one’s not so long, i mean you can easily read it in say…ermmm…3 or 4 2 hour sittings hahahaha
This article is way below the standard. None of us see anything but the final result of the work of the front office and it is impossible to judge the acts because NUFC does not announce their business strategy to a blog, let alone anyone they might be competing with. For all we know DL could be holding the whole operation together, or holding his position by some devious scheme.
In my mind there is no question that Ashley loves his club and, in his own way, getting the finances right and moving forward to a better product on the pitch.
Every club makes mistakes, and NUFC under Ashley has made some big ones-and has acknowledged many of them. But what you & I consider a blunder may not be in light of what happens behind the closed dorrs at HQ.
Spencer, Toonsy is normal and knows the score and can give and take the banter without resorting to the old that’s it your banned carry on like them thick gits on the FM board lol
aye wolfie, i love ya banter, them pictures that more or less got you banned had me in stiches.
Mind you, I dont no how im still on there
cracking post Beeguy.
Spencer , the reason your still on there is because your not me hahahahaha
Nice post BeeGuy
Everyone hates me on it more or less, just the few lads who dont make it worth going on
And wolf, im not quite as bad as you
I’ve long said Llambias is the issue.
Ashley has publicly said he just says yes or no to other people’s idea and admits he knows nothing near enough to run the club himself.
When we had Chris Mort, people were fairly happy. When we got Derek Llambias, people have raged ever since.
Mike Ashley doesn’t just randomly turn bad, the person who gives the ideas for him to say yes and no to did.
in fact, given all the events (and I mean ALL) of the last two seasons, I don’t think we should have a problem with either of them.
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Pretty much how I see it. They’ve done well since relegation- kept the club afloat without a fire sale, some good smart buys (Ben Arfa, Tiote, etc.) extended contracts of some youngsters plus S Taylor, maximized fee for Carroll, didn’t sell anyone else of consequence, improvements to the training facilities, and beginning to get the finances sorted. when you lok around the league we realy don’t have a ton to complain about.
That being said, they are terrible at PR and llambiase simply doesn’t come off as a likeable character.
They have a real chance to change that with investment this window (looks promising) and not selling anyone of consequence. Even if enrique leaves i don’t think most will blame the club. It’s really about keeping everyone else (Barton, Jonas, Nolan).
Spencer, you enjoy a bit of wacky carry on and to be honest there’s not too many on that board that actually enjoy proper funny crack, they are more interested in being serious with the odd joke hoyed in that they think is funny.
If i can’t be myself on a message-board then there’s not point posting on it really.
Too many people up each others bums for my liking mate, but then again i still get to post, nod nod wink wink.
Obviously i can’t stick any more drawings up and stuff cos i’d be sussed in a crack lol
I must admit I dont get the sense of injustice some fans have towards Ashley. Im not tryin to start an arguement over something that neither side would win. I was very angry on the immediate aftermath when Keegan quit. But when i stood back and actually thought about it , and everything since , I dont think Ashley has done much wrong.
As for Llambias i have no idea if he is doing a good job or not. From what i gather he is in charge of decreasing expendutire and increasing revenue which by all accounts he is doing a decent job at it.But the majority of the time when he speaks in the media he comes across as an idiot. Kinda cancels each other out
wolfe you get sussed in a crack anyway, I think a mojority of poor fellas have been banned for no reason aswell
And I am gunna carry one, if I get banned so what?
How on earth can we determine who is the “best or even worst! They come as a team and yes while I feel that at this moment the current regime are as of yet unproven to a certain extent i have yet to see a failing in the mentioned 5year – year 1 promotion – ACHIEVED! year 2 anything above 18th – ACHIEVED we are just starting out year 3 and people still whinge on that Ashley is out to ruin this club a FACT we are one of only 3 premier league clubs to be debt free (to banks) FACT The club is the cleanest it’s been for years!! The transfer policy appears to be exceptional and we are clearly signing quality – tiote hba gosling – yes 2 maybe unproven but they are quality non the less!! Think everyone should give both Ashley and llambias a chance – Ashley won’t want to lose all his money he can’t do that coz of the investments made and llambias isn’t going to sabotage ashley!!
Has cabaye been confirmed?
Good post Johno and your right in what you say.
Ashley made some mistakes, we all know that but i can tell you honestly here and now, Keegan went down in my estimation when he spat his dummy out (again).
Whatever reasons he had, as in Wise going behind his back or Ashley doing this that and the other, he still bailed out immediately without even attempting to actually work with the players he had at the time.
He came back and was out of his depth “in my opinion” but that’s where Ashley’s big problem lies to this day. The Messiah walked out because of him.
If most fans are honest, they will admit that Ashley became public enemy number one because of Keegan’s departure.
In simple terms: Can you imagine what would have happened had the club appointed someone like Alan Pardew instead of Keegan and Alan Pardew walked out citing the same reasons as Keegan did.
What would the fans reactions have been to that?
My guess is, ahh Pardew is a whining git, good riddance and let’s get a big name Manager in. I bet Ashley wouldn’t have been given a second thought.
Cabaye confirmation from official site?:
http://yfrog.com/h8x0bpvj
Could be worse you know. We could have had a team of Peter Ridsdale and that foreign guy at Portsmouth.
As it stands we are in the premier league again and the finances look to be sorting themselves out. When FFS left it was a sinking ship and I think Ashley rather unfairly took the entire blame for relegation. He contributed to it but it was mainly the players of Fat Sam/ Souness / FFS ect that took us down.
Spencer, the only reason i get sussed is because i openly tease them lol
I’ve been posting on there for ages ,since January lol
I’ve got 8 names that i use that none has sussed but in time i’ll reveal myself hahahahaha
really? hahaha, its not that long since davey got banned? I think that Spanish_toon might be you
Wolfie your dead right about who the fans would be behind if you replaced pardew with keegan in the example you gave! I get the feeling Keegan could left under any circumstances and the result would of been the same.
DJG, i think Ashley can only take the blame on the Manager(s) he appointed to try and rescue a season gone bad but other than that,i think he tried like mad to avoid relegation.
Ashley’s problem was allowing his managers at the time to bring in Mercenaries or dross coupled with untested foreign players that actually walked into a nightmare scenario and p[layed without confidence.
Spencer, Spanish toon isn’t me, i’d tell you straight if it was lol
Plus it’s a well and good being armchair critics and certain people, (not mentioning any names
) verbally abusing everyone from the manager to the chairman to the owner. If I was the chairman or the manager I bet I would make some mistakes and sign some duds aswell, hindsight is a wonderful thing. At least we’re back in the premier league and in a position to be optimistic (if you want to be)
Spencer, there’s been about 10 lads banned off there who had nothing whatsoever to do with me lol
I feel bad for them but in no way am i taking any blame for them getting banned.
That’s down to the mods getting into a frenzy believing every new poster happens to be me.
If they hadn’t banned me in the first place for what can only be described as trivialities, then they wouldn’t have to be so paranoid.
But there you go lol
DJG @ 49 you optimistic ?
Batty are you about
I am optimistic Big Dave. I like the direction the club is going and the transfer system of replacing the high paid average players with good young talented players and then, only when they show they are worth it offer them big money (Tiote)
The club is being run like a business with a direction for growth and improvement. There is still a lot of negativity at the moment in the press about certain contracts ect but I think that will fade when we sign more Carr specials and people realise what is happening.
Here’s one for you – isn’t Carrs role almost the same as the Jeff Veterre role?
Just Ashley / Llambias and Charnley negotiate the deals.
Pardew saya I want to play this way and Carr says here you go.
Seems to me the model Ashley wanted is in, and it seems like a cracker.
When you stand back – the way we are operating now is first rate. (Or appears to be)
Also I have the feeling they might be seizing an early advantage in their 5 year plan with the Carroll silly money. (Never before has anyone stolen off scousers lol)
DJG I have seen you being very negative at times
wolfie, my view on it, is half of the stuff posted on the OT is stuff not sutible for childran so why did only you get banned?
and ive noticed them going red card mad
Stardy thats because the scousers dont normally have anything worth stealing, unless its stolen property
Stardust would you agree the current system with Carr is better than any under FFS? i.e throw money at a random ‘name’ and hope for the best.
thought Cabaye was white?
He is
He is c_p, that’s not him in the pic(strange I know)
Well im gonna watch the france game again. This time it’s a friendly so better chance of Cabaye, N’Zog and Gamerio getting on.
DJG – I hate FFS more than any man in NUFCs history. He removed our past present and future into his and his families grubby little pockets – and NUFC was left to tick like a timebomb.
I hate him now and I hated him at the time he was “supposedly” buying us players (signing chittys!)
I have always wholeheartedly (even with Wise) agreed with the fundamentals, the personnel are the key to it working, that was wrong first time but it looks bang on this time!
Good post Stardust.
Both Cabaye and Gameiro start and N’Zogbia is on the bench.
Are the French playing tonight?
If so has anyone got a link please
Cheers stardy and floydy and anyone else calling for mort, let’s not forget that some of his utterings were well, shall we say a little remote from the reality.
Might be time for another positive article?
It’s live on ESPN but not sure about links.
The commentators are saying Gameiro is strongly linked with Newcastle but have not once mentioned that Cabaye is linked with Newcastle, despite the fact he and Lille have said he is joining us.
Odd.
Stardy @ 64 I thought FFS was No2 on your hate list behind your old mate
As for Mort dont forget he was behind a lot of lies about KK being incharge of transfers etc. so he isn’t as clean cut as a lot tend to believe but then he wasn’t anywhere near as bad as that barsteward Lambsarse
Cheers FJ
Blaise Matuidi and that Yann M’Vila are also playing for France.
Our entire transfer target list outside Gervinho and Neil Taylor are playing in this game, lol.
Big Dave Keegan was incharge of transfers, just not deals for commerical reasons.
Cabaye looks a good player, box – to box, good feet and passing, would easily replace Barton in the centre. Gamerio puts the effort in, doesn’t really hold it up, needs to chase through balls or play off a target man.
fj
Menez from Roma is playing aswell.
The problem has been Shepherd and the debt he left. Ashley has kept the club alive and the majority will not accept this. He is doing what is best for NUFC, watch the quality of signings coming in. A self made wealthy man, he knows the higher the league position, the more Sky monies are earned,and the riches of European football beckon. Sports Direct will also benefit. Ashley will get it right, have faith, the real villain is Shepherd- £17M for Owen!!!!
Think about a few things here about how our club is running….how we think it should be run…….what we would like it to be doing….
These 3 thoughts will determine what most fans would want. “I’ll explain”.
If you think the club should be run within it means and pushing along nicely under it’s own steam, then, we have the best owner and staff that we would really ask for .
How it should be run: If you think the club should be run by bringing in major signings in all positions so that we can compete “now” no matter what, with little regard to how we nurture young talent for the future of the club, then you will need an owner like Sir John Hall and a Manager like Keegan.
What we would like it to be doing: If you are in this group, who would like the club to spend “big” on expensive signings with wages to match which can guarantee you at least to be there or there-abouts at the end of the season, then you need a rich Arab with an undying hobby of doing that and also hoping he doesn’t get bored easily which if he did, would set the club back 20 years in terms of getting back on it’s feet.
For me, the first option “the one we have now” is the best option we could have hoped for and i’m only too pleased that Ashley has a big pair of shoulders on him to actually have rode all this turmoil out.
A big thumbs up to Ashley.
Cabaye looks alright in a poor france team
Kevin Gameiro looks poor to me, but considering how crap this match is, I am not sure it is fair to judge anyone on this.
Johno without going over old ground Mort said KK was incharge of transfers and would have the final say on all ins and outs, but there was players brought in that he didn’t want and it did come out in court that they lied to the public. Mort was behind them lies .
Very true lesh, i was joking, but at least he doesn’t look like lambiarse
Kevin Gameiro says he wants to go to Valencia…It’s aall ower German text that Miroslav Klose will move to Valencia on a free transfer….that’s young Kevin cattled then……
Big Dave…you out there ?
guys how do i change my profile pic?
MM aye mate saw that this morning (ssn),there saying vaencia are skint,looking for freeb -ies
FLOYDY,look at FAQ at top of blog
will guide you
I’ll give you that floydy, even tattyheed’s avatar’s better lookin than llambo!
MM yeah mate im here are you banned aswell
Ice hows you young fella
icedog…Miro Klose would be an excellent freebie, proven goalscorer and still fit as a butchers dog…He just cannae get past Mario Gomes at FC Bayern…who scored a shed load of goals last season…
Hope the Lille lad Gervinho comes to the toon, Gameiro not so sure…
Brilliant shot there by Gameiro on the turn there…
all the Sapnish clubs except Barca and Madrid are skint. Even Villareal are trying to sell Rossi just to get some funds
Ok, slightly off topic, but does anyone else think that all of Gameiro’s talk about “preferring” Spain, though no spanish clubs are in for him, and “preferring” champion’s league footy could well be smoke and mirrors designed to keep other Prem clubs off his doorstep? Maybe Pardew is up to a cheeky little plan…. Still think we’ll see KG in black n white.
Funky Jesus-
Think of it like this: school just let out for summer and you have a “friendly” maths competition a week later. How hard are you gonna try like? lol
Davo-
Howdy pardner! What’s happenin’ broski?
Ice,
How’s the old folks’ home today?
MM- doesn’t Klose only score goals for the nat’l team though? he’s had his chances at Bayern in the past…
Gamerio hasn’t really done much he had one shot at the end of the first half. Looks like he needs good service into feet. Wins very little in the air, can’t really hold the ball up and isn’t suited to playing as a lone striker. He’s like a Micky Owen type striker.
Cabaye actually looks like the one worth signing for the premier league. He’s is a bit like Tiote, gives some fouls away and gets involved. He gets the ball out of his feet and passes it like Tiote, takes all the corners and looks like a good passer. Him and Tiote could be the two defensive midfielders in a 4-3-3 or the two central midfielders in a 4-4-2.
kin hell you get some sun on your back with and try to calm down after that farcical end to the season and were signing gervinho a french international and a replacement leftie.
Is this the sign of a plan taking shape or media bollocks ??
Big Dave…no I’m not banned mate. I just read you’re appeal earlier this evening to Clint, who seems to be a steady lad, and I couldn’t believe the reasons why you were supposedly banned.
I got some real stick and abuse on there yesterday from 3 blokes in particular, and one of my comments was “selectively moderated” to give a completely false picture of what I was actually saying. By the same token the blog moderator should be giving those blokes the yellow card at least…
Typical though mate…when they get forced into a corner the three blokes in question revert to personal abuse. The rest of the lads on there tend to post some sense, Hugh, Clint and the like, the three other blokes in question just like to be abusive..
MM,your not saying gamerio is no better than what we have?dont think the lad will be putting himself aboot at this stage a injury would stuff a move up no matter where hes going imo,mr KLOSE seems to save him self for his country rather than club goal-wise
don,t know too much about who,s making the desisions to make a point on it but i know the club is heading back in the right direction with no huge wages any more so that can,t be a bad thing , only thing i don,t like is the way they only have a manager to train the guys and pick a team , AP does,nt have a say in the transfer market imo so i,m just glad our scouts are doing a great job of late
DAVE ime good m8,hows the wee one?
OH not bad mate yersel, as for Ice he got all the lead from the old folks home but mums the word as Batty would crack if others knew what him and Ice are up to, but I know I can trust you
Valencia are well skint, they halted work on their half built stadium in 2009 and still havn’t restarted it
I honestly think that sometimes our biggest problems are our selfs . We sometimes do overreact to things and tend to blow things out of proportion because we love the club so much , and yes 90% of us do . What i do think is that although Ashley has made some monumental cock ups , no due diligence the hiring of Wise and Keegan the guy does actually want to achieve things with us and try’s to give the fans what they want . Thats why he sacked Fat sam and hired Keegan , Shearer and although he is not everyones cup of tea Pardew . Why Pardew ? well because he is known to get his teams playing attacking football and that is what the Toon Army thrives on and lives for and Ashley knows this . I say , when all said and done he has turned a corner and maybe just maybe Llambiarse although a horrible looking git does know what he is doing with the books and between them will get us back into the top 6 and a cup win in the next couple of seasons . When i think back through the years as a toon fan , they are no worse than most we have all ready had , the Mckeag days were lets face it terrible . So all that said , i now have the riot gear on and have retreated into the bunker
MDS…you’re dead right mate, Klose scores goals galore for the national team over the last couple of years, whilst at the same time not being in the regular FC Bayern starting line up. That has been the conundrum over the last few years.
Also he wants a two year deal, FC Bayern will only offer a one year deal, he knows he aint gonna oust Mario Gomes from the team, so it looks like he’s outahere….
CC….time will tell which of those options it’ll be…….good hol in Seaton Sluice?
OHURLEY,its my week out m8,its richies turn in this week,owt to save a quid like
MM @ 98 I seen that and went to post and thats when I found out that Worky had banned me. and yeah Clint is a good lad but I noticed worky has deleted all my conversation I had with Clint earlier. but I will be back on sometime just to prove a point.
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I thought you might have been banned along with me as he said he banned 2 or 3 that were causing trouble
ice…no I don’t know much about either Gameiro or the other Ivorian lad. Have a feeling the Ivorian lad would be a better bet, and may come off due to the Tiote connection…
How to people
I understand others concerns and I understand and agree that they’ve not done a lot wrong since relegation. But together they aren’t exactly trusted are they? I mean a shake up would perhaps get a few more fans onside. Newcastle. United!
this was just on my mind earlier so I thought I would write about it. Apologies that it doesn’t meet with resounding approval but I can’t please all of the people all of the time
BATTY you there?i got most of that lead and copper stripped out that home,weres the truck?
Big D…no mate, at least I don’t think I’m banned
Your conversation with Clint hasn’t been deleted mate…I just read it…
DAVE you cause trouble,dont belive it for a minute,noo that djg might be a diff storey,richie said we had to watch him and dan
@ MDS:
someone agreein’ with someone else on a Toon ‘blog!? surely not.
just kiddin’, i know it’s cos we all love the toon so much..
i’d go so far as to say, that even if Ashley and Lambias do let one or two of our favorites go, i think they deserve our faith, that they are doing things for long-term good of the club…
ok we all hated when Carroll left, but that 35 mill could make the difference between us struggling next season, or pushing for Europe. they gotta make hard decisions that no true toon fan could ever make.
to summarise, i think after all the crap they’ve taken, i think they do deserve a few more voices of support.. everyone was pretty quick to deride them…..
Toonsy…the trust has been broken, and to be honest a lot of it has been there own doing unfortunately.
I just have the feeling that Lambias will never be accepted by the majority of fans.
rich
not bad at all once you blank out the smell of shit its quite pleasant
I read about the barton contract situ and i was expecting plenty worse when i got back so im surprised but until the deals are done im trying to stay calm…
I think they are dishing out the happy baccy at FIFA…
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/06/06/SOCCER_FIFA_Domingo.html&BID=165
Great goal by Gamiero, he’ll be class at PSG
Gamiero has just scored…good goal as well
Gameiro just scored a belter.
First thing he’s done all game and it’s a stotter.
Thanks ice.
Whilst watching now, the commentator just said “the deal is done” when referring to Cabaye. Also mentioned that other newcastle targets from the french side are Gameiro and N’Zogbia who could be re-signing for Alan Pardew’s men, as he looks to rebuild the newcastle side.
watching arsene wenger. wanker.
Oh no…thats another 2 million on Gameiro’s fee…
Maybe we can throw in Ranger in part-ex ?
MM I cant see my comments and I have refreshed the page a few times and checked on 2 different PC’s
and they are not there anymore 
but yeah yours is there so your not banned.
Ice you know I.m not like DJG mate
Yeah what a finish by Gameiro. He certainly knows where the goal is!
to summarise, i think after all the crap they’ve taken, i think they do deserve a few more voices of support.. everyone was pretty quick to deride them…..
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this summer is big for them and the club. If they bring in quality without losing much, I think people will begin viewing ashley in a more positive light. llambiase…not so sure
toonsy you never have to apologise for writing your thoughts even if its not every ones opinion after all that is what a GOOD blog is all about is it not .
Doh…Dave sorry mate, you’re right. I just had another look, and Clint’s responses are still there, but you’re responses to him are deleted..
As I have always stuck by,
better the devil you know.
Much prefer Ashley to Venkys chicken.
The guy has made mistakes but it’s a totally alien industry to him.
i tend to sit on the fence and I am biding my time to see if it comes good….as I wrote here if anyone missed it
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2011/02/19/united-yet-divided-the-saga-of-the-fat-controller/
Actually my first article for this site as it happens….
Funnily enough, this little paragraph fits in with the article too, bearing in mind this was just after the Carroll sale
“I will make my decision come the summer when I see how much he invests back into the team but I think the main problem at NUFC isn’t Mike Ashley….it’s Derek Llambias. As I have mentioned, Llambias has been party to all the major negative stories at NUFC and it’s time this was highlighted and something was done about it.”
Well done for highlighting it Sy
I think the bottom line is that neither Ashley nor Llambias are Geordies and do not share the emotional attachment to the club that most fans have. This allows them to be what they are first and foremost – businessmen. As we all know, businessmen are not generally known for being especially nice guys, but they do have their financial heads screwed on and I think they want success as much as the fans do. Once the fans and the board accept each other for being who and what they are, and the club achieves an increased measure of success, all will be (very) well at the Toon and much will be forgiven on both sides.
The thing with Wenger and Arse is that they have a top striker and that is the way Wenger likes to play. On past history Gameiro wouldn’t get many games think Eduardo, Vela, Chamahk, Bendtner.
Someone should tell Gamiero this and direct him to the North East
Dave-
Wow, what a scheme like! Batty and Ice in on it together?? The stuff those 60s spy movies are made from! I bet Ice remembers watching The Prisoner on the tele while he was in Uni…
Ice,
Aye, owt to save a buck indeed! Just ask Owl Heed
Gameiro had 3 chances and got all 3 on target with the last one going in…mighty impressed with this lad.Wenger is watching though and he must have seen this and been really impressed too.Cabaye has honestly looked like a passenger tonight tbh…
jobey07 maybe PSG arn’t as rich as we thought . I have read that the Qatar group have bought 70% of the club and not the whole club , meaning they probably wont throw the same sort of money about as Man citeh or Chelsea or Liverpool . The guys first choice club are skint so we could still get him .
I just cant understand why MA wouldn’t want the best for us as we know he likes money and the better we are the more money he will get. I really dont think he settles for run of the mill I think he wants to have the best of things, I just think he has went about it all wrong but I still feel he would have a easier time if he got a proper footie man in instead of the streaker
Paul in Hollywood, you’re spot on there, Ashley didn’t get where he is today by giving out “group hugs”..
At the same time, Ashley has taken a lot of abuse over the last years (rightly or wrongly so), so has obviously decided to say nowt to the fans. Though it’s a pity, the communication probably aint gonna improve any time soon..
The thing with lambarse for me is his programme notes. he goes against the thoughts and wishes of the majority for sure he wouldn’t win any popularity contests.
@ Toonsy, comment 110.
great ‘blog mate. the issue with this article is that it’s not really constructive for toon fans, or for NUFC as a whole.
after a long time it seems that the optimism about nufc is starting to grow. i think i haven;t been this hopeful about NUFC for about 13 years. and as a team, we have more chance of being successful if we’re united. the vibe that emanates from ‘blogs such as these spreads a long way…
you have a great site here.. i was just disappointed that after all the positive news about possible signings etc and the club looking like going forward (again next season), a negative article about the guys running the show comes up…when they’re doing a decent job – just look at the other premiership/ x-prem teams.
just like the roar of the fans in the stadium can push the team forward on the pitch, ‘bloggers such as yourself -but moreso, a newcastle united fan- are in a position to a be a real positive force. we got enough negativity coming from the media, and we don;t need to introduce it among ourselves….
deepak,
Peter Lovenkrands tends to get most of his shots on target too and he usually gets about 3 a game. Yet people say he is a passenger as he doesn’t offer much else – why is this guy exempt from that same criteria? Because he would cost a lot?
The fact is, outside one great shot, he has done dick all. Is that what you expect from a £10m+ striker who is only getting his fourth international cap?
Friendly or not, if you’re still that new to playing for your country, you should be doing more.
OHURLEY kna never saw that show m8,they never showed it in them new york slammers,got nee sense of humour those cops
So from the odd YouTube clip & 1 game he’s already been dismissed as an expensive failure and he’s not even our player…only at the toon
pjb47
To be honest mate there isn’t really that much positives atm apart from rumours. and as there is no footie to talk about, but then as I have found with our club there is lots of topics that can be seen as positives or negatives depending on which side of the fence you sit
DAVE lets wait for thur/fri,thats when they can say owt,thats if theres owt to say like
I am not saying he is a failure. He isn’t even our player, I just expected more from someone everyone online was making our to be a French Shearer, that’s all.
I am suspecting most people raving about him had never seen him play.
i agree with rich @4 and jay @15
Not bad from Gamiero.
Chances of getting him? Well I don’t think so but someone at the club seems to think he might come as their not taking no for an answer it would seem.
FJ do you think maybe the fact that its only just a friendly and maybe that the players might not want to risk any injuries could be something to do with it.
hows wor BATTY you back the derby winner?
No, not really, since Marvin Martin is touted in the transfer market the same as Gameiro and he is at the same club as him and he has been roasting Ukraine since he came on.
Maybe he doesn’t mind injuries?
Ice-
That was mint, mate! I got no retort for that
Well I think the ‘negative article’ has been a resounding success as look at the positivity it’s brought out… good vibe!! Also glad Toonsy’s in a good mood
FJ well maybe he is having an off game, or maybe he is shit
Marvin Martin looks devastating.
Two goals in his debut and he made the assist for Kaboul.
Ice tell Clint I said Hi
Surprised to see that Ryan Donaldson has been kept on at the club. The young lad has England caps but never seem to get a chance under Hughton and Pardew and I thought he would be released this summer. I only wish our reserves played really competitive games and the progress of these young men would accelerate. Who needs Kevin Nolan?
Oh Ice I just noticed 101 yeah mate he is doing good mate, he was asking about you’s the other day
DAVE lol,its the only time i go on like when clints on,plus just thought i would go on after you said you were banned thought i would chance my arm,theres time to get removed like
stardust are you about
dave 1 out all out
the queer boy has banned me
Batty cant believe your banned aswell are you sure ??
Ice I have never seen Clint have a bad word about anyone mate he is a decent spud
Hi fellow Newcastle supporter
Arsene Wenger does the FFF in Ukraine along Deschamps, admit no interest in Gamiero, shall he play games with media who knows, this would be good as he say Benzema he excites very much and suited to EPL
NufcJacques
cheers mate 
dog me and dave will be calling you a scab soon along with munich and toonsy
Batty I see your comments were removed then the’re back on again
BATTY ok hint taken,will withdraw my labour from there now
Marvin Martin is the one to sign.
‘the little Iniesta’ they call him apparently. Two cracking goals there towards the end. We’ve got nee chance. Must say our bloke looked pretty ordinary in the second half and then they started putting the big guns on there was a huge difference in quality.
gone
evening laddys
lol they have disappeared again Batts
dog only joking m8 i would never call ya a scab
toonsy yeah 
spence gan and tell the ladyboy hes a c@nt for is
Big Dave I hope for some enjoyable news from nufc to excite the fans quick
Ice we know you only go on because Clints a mate and a good lad, or maybe clint could pop across to talk to you, I would ask him for ye but I cant
NufcJacques I hope so mate we could do with something good
Batty @ 173 spence is too nice for that
ohh what lady boy? jobe?
I love taking the p1ss out of people 
workyticket on org .or havent you got the bottle spence
DAVE ive spoke to him before about it but hes a loyal guy as worky has him brain-washed mores the pity,hope now its on news now he might cast a eye on here and see whats happening,can only hope
are you there dog or are you in 1 with me ,i can handle the silent treatment of me missus but not you
im on it batty, shall i put with regards the greatist nufc blog around?
DAVE ive spoke to him before about it but hes a loyal guy as worky has him brain-washed
he tryed too brainwash me and dave as well dog 
spence batty and dave
Can I hate a template of what to write please?
does it have a swear filter?
put what you want spence
BATTY ime always with you m8 nee worry aboot,thought you were in the huff as i asked you if you had backed the derby winner,you said nowt
Ice the sad thing is that he will probably be shafted
but I think he will eventually find out what type of man he is 
yes just get it done
dog didnt see it sorry
ive done
spence
Spence your a nutter lad
hehe, is he a proper bell? Its to late to get into a full grown arguement, I might just spam the blog..
SPENCE
Some of you guys are crazy, but it is good jokes
! goodnight newcastle
Should see me at the matchs Big Dave, proper hoolie like, took all WHU’s top boys last season
right, im not going to lie, youve got me into this mood, but im going to be a immature little cu’nt
nite jacques we talk more sense in the mornings
well now i know batty is talking again to me,ime off for a good kip
You need wolfie for these sort of things, hes proper intelligent, but a proper bell to people
Ice you can sleep happy now knowing that you still have a job with wor batts
nite dog ive never and never will fall oot with you
repsect me elders
out of intrest, why did you send me to call him a cu’nt? Is it cos all you dont have the balls?
dave stardust will be mad when i tell him wanky tissue sent me all his perso details
spence me and dave are banned
Spence we are banned because we wouldn’t let him treat us like wee boys
Why did he send you his personal details? Give em’ me and ill smash his house up
Ahh, next comment coming up on there, feel free to look
How long before I get banned? I’m enjoying this
spence you have too say worky takes it up the bum too get banned
next comment
Im on it soon batty
How can he ban me, im not signed up?
your banned spence
can I not just use a diffrent email? I was having fun?
night spence you cut down on your skittles
night lads
yehh my other email worked
batty you cant go with out reading my latest comment man
And you lads got me in the mood for it
lads take it easy im outta here spence have you no exams to practise for, as you dont want to end up like Richie
I do, but im having more fun doing this
nahh its only english and ive already passed it but I have to enter cos of the course im doing
speak of the devil
Aye Spencer, God forbid you end up like me living over here
Dave…always lurking mate
Im pretty sure ill get a better job than working in mac d’s, mind you I wouldnt mind being able to wear one of tha caps
been banned again with no reply cu’nts.
I hope they realise that in two weeks im finished for 3months and I dont have anything to do so I will just sit here all day killing their blog
Richie II suppose you know that Batty is now banned aswell as me
Uh oh. I’ve joined in when the nighty night club are saying their goodbyes!
Cringing.
Anyway, between jimbob batty and Mary Lou Spence wishing each other sweet dreams, I still maintain that we won’t be signing Gervinho, Sturridge, Gamerio but more likely end up with Shane Long or some other lesser name.
Wages will continue to pose problems when it comes to strikers and top quality players.
Booby, ill hold you to that
I think we might get Gervinho but we wont get all three.
Also, dont give me a big long paragraph about why we wont get him because although I respect the views of everyone on here, im to tierd to read loads
Bobby
I Just think that we might have a chance of Gervinho simply on the fact that Tiote recommended him, and to do that there must have been some indication that he would be willing to join.
Cabeye I think will be a toon player, as for Sturridge and Gamerio I cant see it
I’ll just wait and see what the fat lad does, you never know he may surprise me
Dave…you deserve it but batty’s a good lad
Spence you tell him mate and dont take none of his shit, because I think you would take him no probs, and he know’s that
We won’t get all three.
too right we won’t .
I don’t think I need to go into realms of reasons .
I’ve explained it above.
Top strikers demand top wages and attract the best clubs.
I haven’t seen Gervinho but from various views on here, that’s what he’s meant to be.
I will show my ass in Fenwicks window if we pull that off.
What just Gervhino? Since im in sheffield you think you could get a picture mate?
take who bobby? I wouldnt even get into a debate with him
physically though
Richie @ 234 thanks mate
im just surprised Batty lasted so long 
@Big Dave
Im surprised you haven’t learnt anything from the years governed by Ashley.
Gervinho – no chance.
Spence yeah mate I have seen pics of both of ya’s so my money is on you kiddo
Booby, im holding you to this, and if your wrong, in gunna frame it
How you seen a pic of me?
Bobby I know what your saying and yeah generally I wouldn’t think that the Fatman would but I have said for months that I thought there would be a chance because of Tiote and he must have had a rough idea what the money would be like.
But tbh I always try to be optimistic then by the end of the window Ash has knocked the optimisim outta me
Gervinho will not agree personal terms.
Come Thursday, everyone will be disappointed.
Some just never learn .
Booby, this is the last chance im giving him,, but i wont be boycotting the club like someone said earlier.
cwarr07
Neil Taylor has agreed a 5 year contract with #nufc Fee of 1m a bargain, yet again shrewd work in the transfer market by the club
AT LEAST WE GET TAYLOR. Ay bobby?
Bobby atleast we wont have long to wait either way.
reet thats me outta here this time
alright lads.
To be honest I don’t have too much of a problem with Ashley it’s just Derek I have problems with. Ashley has set up a scouting network which is probably the best one the club has ever had, of course he has made some huge errors but I feel he has learnt from them – think when he first took over he paid too much for players and probably didn’t understand the way transfers worked e.g Smith and Viduka.
Llambias has no communication skills what so ever which is why he should shut up…He comes out with something daft everytime he does an interview. Chris Mort was far better at talking to the fans he knew what to say and what not to say, massive shame he left.
Big dave, your not going anywhere until youve told me how youve seen a picture of me
Andrew can you put that in a podcast for me, I cba to read that much at this time
Why would he want you to read it? like you understand owt about football
funny jobey
“Stardust are you about 
by batty on Jun 6, 2011 at 22:06″
Just reading through now Batts
You massive self-centerd bell end cu’nt toss’er di’ck face tw’at
hehe, bite. disgraceful that you use such language on here when toonsy’s mum reads this board.
I dont no why I did it, probably represents my boredom
Anymore and Toonsy’s mum will be having a word..
she cant be worst than my mum so its alright
Is bobby still about??? Got to wish him a good night
Ahh well maybe tomorrow
Night boys. Xxxxxx
Looks like Gervinho is definitely not happening lads.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1394978/Arsenal-Manchester-City-battle-Lilles-8m-rated-Gervinho.html?ITO=1490
so it looks like Bobby wont be baring his arse in fenwicks anytime soon then.
Good call Bobby lad.
Perhaps a few more will lose those rose tinted specs now too and get off wor Bobby’s case.
Did people seriously think we have any chance of getting anyone of this quality, ffs.
You’s do the same thing every t/f window.
And the fat kunt is laughing his little c0ck off at yous.
Now how about shane long anybody, cus thats more like it.
and another Taylor and some algerian kid no one has even heard of.
I think that’ll be your lot too.
Its pathetic, really it is.
Oh btw, I dont doubt we made all the right noises, even going so far as to put a bid in for him, but it was never going to really happen was it?
smoke screen for the fat controller to bring in his cheapies.
Plus it might fool Jose Enrique into signing a new contract
One huge advantage of not signing gervinho is the fact that Cwarr has proved himself to be a right nob.
If we don’t sign him, don’t know how he will live it down, the amount of 100% guarantees he has given
Since when did the daily mail become the hit choice for accurate news?
I love the way some will ridicule the Daily Mail if it says we’ll sign someone but take it as gospel when it says we won’t
…….be like me, I’m believing nowt from no one until it’s on the official site, no hopes raise, no hopes dashed 
* raised
I’ve no doubt we will bring in a couple of decent buys over the window but they won’t be any big names that big clubs are competing for.
It’s no good though bringing in a couple of good buys but losing a couple of our best players at the same time.
Ie Cabaye for Barton.
Agree bobby, even if Cabaye turns out to be better than Barton we would have improved the team but not the strength in depth which is just as important. I think people are underestimating, not just the value of Nolan/Barton not just on the pitch but off it too, that’s why the likes of Tiote and Benny settled in so quickly imo, because of the tremendous team spirit that was there due to the likes of CH, KN and JB. If Nolan and Joey are unhappy will all these “new” players settle in so quickly?
they are both a massive steaming heap of cockney waste, that will do do nothing but run this club into the ground, ashley/llamsarse out, alan sugar in! HAZAR!
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