He works hard for the team, rarely moans, is rarely injured and has been one of our only players capable of beating a man in the last couple of seasons. None of that seems to be the issue though and the main criticism of Jonas seems to be his lack of a cross or a killer ball.
At times I agree, but I think there is a much better player hidden behind the Jonas that we all know and some love. In fact I think that by moving him to the right we will see a much better Jonas Gutierrez. Why? Well here goes…
Firstly, to the best of my knowledge it’s actually his position. He was signed from Mallorca, where he played on the right and in fact started off playing for us on the right. Even the bible that is Wikipedia says: “Following the departure of Left-sided winger Damien Duff in the transfer window, Gutierrez has switched from his usual right winger to left winger position.” Now it’s only Wiki, but would somebody really take the time to mess with that? Putting him back on the right will lead me nicely on to my next point.
Jonas is right-footed. Very few of us, even professional footballers, have the ability to be equally adept with either foot. It’s just the way it is. Putting him on the right, where he can use his stronger foot, would only be a benefit surely? Maybe then we can see him whipping balls in as he’ll have the confidence to do so.
A good place to look would be at his goals. Now I’m only doing a couple as I don;t want this to read like Michael Owen’s brochure, but take this first effort against Barnsley. That screamer from the season in the Championship.
Notice anything about it? How about this next one against Wolves?
In case you missed it, both goals were scored with his right foot, as were his goals against Bristol City, Blackpool and Manchester City. Even his goal at Chelsea deflected in off his right **** cheek! Does that not say something about his preferred side?
There is of course another benefit to switching Jonas to the right, and that is the fact that it will strengthen our right side in defense aswell as in attack.
Jonas’ work rate is appreciated, as is his defensive work. We see it now where he tracks back and generally maks a nuisance of himself. Now if he could do that with Danny Simpson wouldn’t you agree that it would make us stronger on that side of the park? At times I think Simpson has struggled purely through the lack of support he gets from Joey Barton, but that’s for another day….
So what do you reckon? Is it worth giving Jonas a go on the right? I mean if you look at it there is some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that at least he should be given a shot, and with the players available to cover the left whilst Jonas switches to the right it makes it a no-brainer in my view.
Of course it will mean the end of the Jose/Jonas combo, but that could happen anyway. Why not use him in a more effective position and try and get the best out of him?
Your thoughts please.
I’d much rather have N’Zogbia than Jonas.
I think he’s better.
geoff777(Quote)
dave that tony on the celtic thread sed what do you know about sectarian ***** 😆
batty(Quote)
Ice I agree with you about Zog he has learned that the grass isn’t always greener 😉
geoff777 I take it then you dont want to answer me @ 64 and 70 😆
Batty I will have a wee look 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
Ice – right, shame he’s moved!
raffo(Quote)
Zog- more attack-minded, more end product, possible attitude problems
Jonas- little final product, worker, great attitude, great defensively
different players- room for both IMO
MDS(Quote)
Batty I guess that is one of the draw backs about newsnow you come across alot of stray dogs 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
alreet lads.
is Sy about?
Also I dont really care where Jonas plays, although you might see a big improvement of his final ball if he plays on the right, however he wont be able to cut in side and shoot which he seems alright at.
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
mds who asked for your opinion ❓ 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
LOL- so Batty’s an “illiterate c___”, Big Dave is a “big wumin”, and TC is a thick @rsehole…
good to know…
MDS(Quote)
spence toonsy is on his hols ,moreno and dave watching the blog mate 😉
batty(Quote)
@MDS you say batty is illterate, would he really be able to come on a blog and post his view about a article he has READ if he was illiterate? 🙄
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
mds every 1 knows that any way 😆
batty(Quote)
I play left wing but am alarmingly one-footed (and right footed). Toonsy, what you have contrived to neglect is that he cuts in from the left and shoots on his right foot, meaning he’s scored his goals specifically by cutting in for a shooting position. If he cut in from the right he’d have to shoot on his left, which he clearly isn’t confident with.
DevonMag(Quote)
arrrr thanks spence 😉
batty(Quote)
@Dave? Bout as usefull as my mates chiwawa 🙄 😆
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
MDS I would agree that Zog has more end product than Jonas but then Zog is playing in his prefered position, Jonas doesn’t have that luxury, so I guess we still cant really judge him properly even after 3 yrs 😉
But I will say one thing I always prefer a grafter
Big Dave(Quote)
mds every 1 knows that any way
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I didn’t say Tony was wrong mind 😉
MDS(Quote)
Batty, I see you as a good influence, I have to stick up for you 😉 😆
Also I need to show Dave I can be his next apprentice 😆
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
Spencer you started of brill there @86 but went downhill fast @ 90 🙄
Big Dave(Quote)
Can we pretend 90 didnt happen? I was just making sure you we’re on the ball, not that I judge your management.
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
@MDS you say batty is illterate, would he really be able to come on a blog and post his view about a article he has READ if he was illiterate?
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Spencer, Stardust sits next to him, reads him the comments and types his responses 😉
MDS(Quote)
Spence we had a young lad in today about the apprenticeship 😕
Big Dave(Quote)
News must be slow in glasgow if there still ranting on that forster thread… 🙄
CC(Quote)
Spence ok we will forget about 90 😉 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Big dave, good or bad news? 😕
SpencerTheToon(Quote)
Spence neither good or bad we get people asking every single week mate but very few of them know what its really like to work for about 2 yrs for free and be treated like a piece of **** at the sametime.
But I have to say I dont treat him like that as I dont have it in me to be like that but I know and understand the reasons behind it 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
mds how come you got round supporting the toon m8 ❓
batty(Quote)
CC I think they are just angry mate because the’re living in the Gers shadow 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Batty- pretty much due to a friend of mine. At the time I first starting getting into football my friend who was a good player over here and sort of taught me the finer points of the sport, worshipped Shearer. So we supported Blackburn for a year or so before Newcastle bought him. Supported the Toon ever since.
MDS(Quote)
🙄 glory hunter 😆 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
batty 😆 😆
richietoon(Quote)
🙄 🙂
batty(Quote)
Dave
Aye it cant be nice with them coming 2nd in a two team league, Like winning a raffle to **** a bond girl and ending up with grace jones… 😉
CC(Quote)
🙄 😆 😆 Grace Jones now that is beyond the call of duty 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
Evening lads,
I cannot believe some of the rubbish spouted on here. Firstly jonas should not be sold he has been a superb servant yes his end product isn’t always spot on but nor is nani or malouda!
He stuck with us always supported the club never been controversially and unlike some of the other sick notes he has played almost every game! So he’s bound to have some off ones! His tracking back is priceless and his hard working nature should never be underestimated there’s nothing worse than a player who doesnt try… I’m sorry but he is a great servant and should be kept at all costs
Rant over 😆
Liam southern toon(Quote)
alreet lads ive just got in , any news on us moving closer to a signing???
Army69(Quote)
here here liam 🙂
batty(Quote)
army 😆 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
batty 😕 ???
Army69(Quote)
Liam well said mate 😉
Army I guess today just wasn’t a good friday 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
we havent signed any 1 😉 and thats always the 1st thing you ask mate 😆
batty(Quote)
Liam @110 well said. n spot on imo.
But I do think he deserves a shot on the right wing before we sell him on.
Jonas is a frustrating player sometimes, but he’s a real character and I’ll be gutted if Ashleys little puppet wants rid of him.
Can feel me **** starting to get warm already.
Fuggin joker 👿 👿
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
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batty
Posted June 24, 2011 at 10:39 PM
we havent signed any 1 and thats always the 1st thing you ask mate
aye its the first thing i say cos thats what ive come on the site to find out about u mug!! all u do is talk **** 😆
Army69(Quote)
Well said Liam 😉
richietoon(Quote)
less of the mug boy
batty(Quote)
nah dave doesnt look like a good friday indeed 😆 stil plenty time to find sturridge tho ( pardue are u listening) lol
Army69(Quote)
have we signed any 1 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
sturrige 😆 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
less of the boy mug , divint come on here and take the **** that im askn a question mate , its obviously what im wanting to find out if ur not happy then just ignore it
Army69(Quote)
“talk ****”….I see having the ankle snapper has changed the linguistics of the “Army” household already 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Sorry for the rant lads but get annoyed when we put down good honest players like jonas.
He’s a good lad and we should start feeling more positive about the toon army!
Yes we may have a complete **** for an owner by for goodness sake let’s back our team we are Newcastle!
HOWAY THE LADS!!!
Liam southern toon(Quote)
who took the p:ss half wit
batty(Quote)
Liam….never apologise if you’re right or even think you’re right mate 😉
richietoon(Quote)
hows that like that richie??
Army69(Quote)
army get you fookin head from up ya **** boy
batty(Quote)
Increase the peace brothers 😉
toonsy(Quote)
🙄 😆 Batts your on a roll tonite like
Big Dave(Quote)
Army….’cos ya said “****” where as you’d normally say **** 😉
richietoon(Quote)
Toonsy its all your fault 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
army stop acting like your picture 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
Toonsy! Your contacts got any news of signings? 😉
Liam southern toon(Quote)
Liam…all Toons’y contasts work in the food industry so I doubt it 😉 😆
richietoon(Quote)
😆 batty get a life mate , do you just come on here to be a nob end like
Army69(Quote)
*contacts 😳
richietoon(Quote)
Liam – Pass mate. Ben out of all sorts of loops today 🙁 Why can’t people drive without crashing into each other? 👿 Five times I’ve been held up by motorway crashed today 👿 👿 👿
toonsy(Quote)
army if ya after knob ends just look in the mirror ok
batty(Quote)
What roads you been on toonsy??
Liam Southern toon(Quote)
“Five times I’ve been held up by motorway”…..that used to happen to Ice all the time, but in his day it was always some fecker saying “stand and deliver” 😉 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Batty and army seriously… 🙄
Liam southern toon(Quote)
😆
CC(Quote)
get a life 😆
batty(Quote)
Toonsy the crashes were probably your fault too 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
liam take no notice bonnie lad ,they have let him oot for the weekend
batty(Quote)
😆 batty do you know how pathetic you sound mate 😆 😆 😆
Army69(Quote)
Army sorry to say it but I have Batty as 1 round in front 😉
Big Dave(Quote)