The lost art of loyalty in football.

Took the money and ran.
I was quite excited this morning when I saw the postman approaching my house. I was awaiting the post eagerly because I was expecting my season review DVD to arrive today.

With a rare day off I thought I’d settle down in front of my television and relive the ups and downs of last season. It was early on in the DVD that I watched us smash six past Villa during our first home game of last season.

I sat and watched Andy Carroll score his first Premier League hat trick and Kevin Nolan bag a decent brace against a good Villla side. It sounds daft but instantly I felt a little sad that neither of those players represent Newcastle United anymore.

If we put aside ability and what both players contributed to the team what made me sad was watching their reactions when they scored for Newcastle United. Andy Carroll with a fist pump and Nobby smiling from ear to ear. You could tell how much it meant to them to score a goal for Newcastle United.

It instantly took me back to January 31st 2011 – transfer deadline day. The day that our local hero decided his future wasn’t at St James’ Park. The day in which it was apparent that words are cheap and despite Andy saying on many occasions that he was living the dream and wanted to stay on Tyneside for the rest of his career – he infact left the club.

Sure Andy blamed the board and the owner and claimed he never wanted to leave Newcastle, but the player himself handed in a transfer request to force his big money move to Liverpool. It probably didn’t help Andy that he arrived on Merseyside with a massive grin on his face as he was greeted by the Liverpool fans.

This came shortly after Carroll allegedly told people close to him that he was ‘devastated’ to be leaving his hometown club. He certainly showed little evidence of that as he completed his Β£35 million move.

We all know that there is no loyalty in football anymore. Players are fickle and easily influenced by their agents and their own greed. Long gone are the days of Alan Shearer types who pledge themselves to a club and back up their words with actions.

Even if you look at the likes of John Terry and Steven Gerrard, both at their boyhood clubs, yet both players have been tempted by moves away at some point. Gerrard was heavily linked with Chelsea and Terry nearly joined Man City a couple of years ago. I would say a significant pay rise maybe persuaded the pair to stay at their clubs, who knows?

It made me look at the Nolan situation too, if the rumours are correct he was offered a decent contract by the club. Yet he was willing to drop a division and move across the country. For what? Contract length? Money?

Getting back to that Aston Villa game, who could possibly forget about the man who scored our first that afternoon? The very same man who was voted Player of the Season and a lad who is desperate to stay at the club.

The thing is I actually believe Barton when he says he wants to stay at the club and I genuinely believe he’d reject a move away. That is something Nolan and Carroll weren’t willing to do when other clubs came calling. As we have all said before it doesn’t matter if the board want to cash in on you, if your happy and contracted to the club you don’t have to sign for another team. Simples!

I just hope that Newcastle fans aren’t forced to see other key players leave who have stated their happiness at the club. We saw it happen with Andy and Kevin, both of whom wanted to stay apparently but neither did.

Colo and Jonas have both told the Geordie public that they are happy at St James’ Park and don’t want to leave…. but is that the kiss of death? It will be interesting to see what happens if these players get a tangible offer elsewhere.

Like I say, I hand on heart think out of everyone at the club Joey would literally turn down a move next season and insist on seeing his contract out at St James’, unless it’s an offer by a Champions League team of course.

On a separate note Kevin Nolan has the month of December on the NUFC 2011 calender, I think I’ll stick a picture of Yohan Cabaye’s head over the top of Kevin’s head. Nothing personal I merely want to keep my calender updated. :mrgreen: πŸ™„ πŸ˜› .

67 thoughts on “The lost art of loyalty in football.

  1. Ahh good, another late night post πŸ˜€

    Know what you mean though, I watched a couple of season reviews and the like on youtube a few weeks back. I remember the Carroll hatrick and I remember me and me dad cheering away in our local welsh pub, just us and two Villa fans who slowly melted into their seats. I remember raising a glass to the final goal, to a lad who had it all in my eyes. There was one player I thought that loved the club as much as me.

    What did I know eh? I don’t expect it from others outside the area but when even local lads don’t seem fussed it is a real shame.

    Jose is another lad who only last year said he’d be happy to end his career on tyneside. How things change eh πŸ™„

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  2. To be fair it’s not a new thing. It’s been going on for years. The likes of the Alan Shearer’s and Matt Le Tissier’s are the exceptions to the rule unfortunately.

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  3. Yeah, I think Shearer may have given us the wrong sort of idea, that we could expect top players to stick with good side.

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  4. You talk about loyalty,what about the player he has family and there best intrests to think of,and not 1 person in here wound not do the same simples.

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  5. Agree with Toonsy,

    It’s no recent thing. A ack of loyalty to a club has been around since there was any real money in football. Actually, probably even before this with the attraction of winning trophies.

    This article is very narrow and subjective as most are on this subject. What we have to remember is most players have no loyalty to a club and why should they?

    The exceptions to this are supposedly the ads playing for their boyhood clubs as you mentioned above, but this is also heavily influenced by the fact that their boyhood clubs are big and pay more than most. Would Gerrard be tunring up week in week out to play for Watford today if he was raised there? No, Carrol is a good example of why not.

    As fans we love our clubs but should remember that that same passion isn;t always shared by the players. Afterall, they are in a job and like us in our 9-5 world whether we’ve been at a company for 5 weeks or 15 years if a better paying job with better conditions comes along we take it.

    Players are the same. Football these days is more business than sport.

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  6. toon army lite,

    Good point about players looking after their own, and their families interests. I thuik this supports well what I have said and I fully agree with it.

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  7. Shearer came to us and stayed with us because of money.
    His contracted stated that he would always be the highest paid player at the club and in the top 3 percentile of the league.
    No loyalty there.

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  8. Paul shearer would have been on better wage at man utd and would of had a shelf full of medals if he signed for them.

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  9. What does it matter if you earn the most, its still a lesser club. ManU would have made sure he was paid even better, and given a tonne of medals to boot.

    TOONARMYELITE-Carroll doesn’t have a family, just a girlfriend who’s face he likes to smash onto bathroom floors. Simples.

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  10. Newkie so what ya saying is if you were him you would have turned it down lmao pull the other 1 its got bells on,if ya answer is yes i say hi mug πŸ˜†

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  11. Elite- chill. Yeah family is a big thing, but carroll made verbal assurances that he went back on that’s main point there.

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  12. marktoon do you have any hard facts that back up he went back on verbal assurances,reading between the lines i felt it was possible he was forced out once newcastle got a 35 million bid

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  13. i also think thats why chris was sacked he was told carrol was going to be sold and was not happy about it.

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  14. Shearer signed when we were one of the main challengers for the title. As KK have stated, PL would be totally different had we won the title.

    By the way, how can you guys so sure that Man U would offer an even better contract to Shearer than NUFC? After all, the club was not owned by MA at the time.

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  15. Meaning carroll said he wasn’t going to leave and he did they are facts my friend. If carroll backed up his promises he wouldn’t have signed a contrac with ‘pool. Hence loyalty being questionedm nout crytic mere fact

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  16. Widowmaker though i dont like to say it man ure put more bums on seats than we do,there sponship always alot more than ours,just fact of life they going to pay better wages than us πŸ™ ,we aint ever ganna be able to compete unless we really find some way of makeing st james bigger.Me im hopeing the dept there club owners have catchs up with them lmao πŸ˜†

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  17. I think Barton has played a very poor off field game with his twitter comments etc… He has publicly slagged off the owners and aired his dirty laundry which I think is incredibly stupid.. However he then backs it up by saying he loves Newcastle and he doesn’t want to leave.. So now if he is sold, he will be “gutted” as he loves us so dearly and really wanted to stay but his hand was forced.. I think Barton will be sold and in his mind, if he has played his card right, none of it will be his fault… I don’t see any loyalty in his actions, only arse covering… πŸ˜•

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  18. TOONARMYELITE, I am not saying that we had the same financial power as the Man U back in the 90’s. While I agree Man U could afford a higher average wage, I don’t think there are any proves that the club management were not willing to match anything Man U would pay for big Alan at the time. After all, we all know our ex-board are willing to offer top wages to their targets.

    Having said that, I am not saying Shearer was not loyal. I was merely saying the club has changed dramatically since the glory days, and it is not really fair to put them into comparison.

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  19. Shearer could have gone anywhere he wanted, he bleeds black and white, anyone who has watched him knows that and he was probably the biggest example of loyalty in football, the most committed player in a black and white shirt i have ever had the priviledge to watch.

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  20. [email protected] i disagree some supporters turn on our own players in a blink of an eye πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

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  21. Aaaah…. Good reading, Mark.
    Like so many of us, it shows the feeling of being let down badly by the people we worshipped.
    Like Dylan sang – “Money doesn’t talk, it swears”
    I think Shearer was the ONLY “loyal” player, apart maybe from Rob Lee. Beardsley dropped us like a hot brick early in his career, remember.

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  22. Money negates loyalty……..and no we wouldn’t all do the same, I’ve left 3 jobs for less money because I’d be happier in the new job, If you’re happier at work then your home life is happier. If a player stays at Wigan all his career he will still be made for life ffs. Kevin Nolan would already have made more money than he will ever be able to spend so far in his career and the offer which the Toon made would have been worth at least Β£10m over the four years I’d have thought, not enough though, security my arse it’s greed plain and simple. If West Ham don’t go up at the first attempt, they will have to get shot and nobody will pay him that salary imo, where’s the security there?

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  23. Hey toonsy and richie……
    You two nailed me last week for me telling you that this thing with Neil Taylor was not a one million quid buy out clause and you all said it was like….clearly i was right i think.

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  24. Were not really in much of a position to bang on about players being loyal, Neil Taylor was plucked from non-league by swansea and we show him triple what hes earning and hes trying desperately to get out of his contract.

    money talks sad to say as hard as it is to stomach seeing carroll in a liverpoo kit (although i still cant believe he hasnt woken up since thinking WTF did i do this for) the offered more and he took it despite pissing on his childhood dream and in my view his career because as long as ive got a hole in me arse he doesnt look the same in their team…

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  25. Of course players need to think of the money, their families etc. – but there is a big difference between what most of us might earn and what they do. Think about it – if I’m offered a job paying Β£40K a YEAR instead of Β£30K – I’ll find it very hard to turn down (although I might for other reasons) – it represents a big help to my lifestyle, security etc. However, when you’re earning (say) Β£30K a WEEK, i.e. Β£1.5 million a year (not to mention sponsorship and other deals)- and someone offers you Β£2 million a year, is that really such a huge deal in terms of your life? You can only eat one meal at a time and sleep in one bed, as my mother used to say. I’m sure most of us could set ourselves up for life if we earned Β£1.5 million a year for 4-5 years??
    Ashley Cole, anyone (you all know the story!)

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  26. Loyality doesnt exist in football, show a footballer a good wage and he’ll kiss the badge, shout a footballers name and he’ll pretend he cares. it’s all show business…players come and go so sentiment is out the window for me.

    on the other hand player like Jose might well of stayed if MA showed a matching ambition. why should he stay when he know we’ll win nothing under Ashley.

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  27. Aussie Magpie @23 – you’re absolutely right! If staying at the club honestly meant everything to him, he would stay silent. It is quite simple – you just don’t bite the hand that feeds you, at least not if you have any hope, that this hand will continue to feed you in the future ..

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  28. Carroll thought Ashley would cave in and give him 80k a week, Ashley said ta very much – gerrard, terry and lampard have all played the same game to get mega pay rises in the past and Rooney did same last season, difference is that their clubs caved in to demands
    Loyalty is overrated – just turn up and do the fvcking job we pay you to do

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  29. So your saying Joey is loyal but at the same time he’d go to a Champions League Club?? Thts not loyalty thats hedging your bets!

    There is no loyalty in clubs these days. It’s all about the Bendjamins

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  30. I see Sunderland look like buying Whickham from Ipswich. Good to see at least one owner allowing a manager to re-invest money from selling your best players. πŸ˜‰

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  31. Loyalty works both ways! Since when have Newcastle ever been loyal to anybody? I have learnt in life look after yourself because no matter what you do for your employer they will replace you if it suits them.

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  32. toonsy
    Posted June 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM

    Craig – Can’t find the quotes, but it appears you’re right.

    That’s a right nailing that is πŸ˜•

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  33. I agree with most of the posts above… However, let’s not forget it works both ways. Any club, not just Newcastle, would sell a player as soon as their used by date has expired. It is a dog eat dog situation… Why would a player be loyal if you know that at any time you could be transfer listed and sold… I know that players don’t have to go if they don’t want to, but how often does that happen.. Both parties can be as bad as each other…

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  34. Always remember that I couldn’t make the Chelsea home game because on the snow so I watched it on TV and Carroll did a huge interview sitting in the Gallowgate, saying how he will end his career here and he remembers watching Shearer etc playing and how he wants to do the same…Prick.

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  35. Hey Toonsy,
    I am not sure how it can be done….. but can you arrange to have some kind of funeral service for Andy Carroll and Chris Hughton so that we can lay their history with Newcastle to rest. We need some kind of ceremony so that we can get on with our lives and occasionally visit their Newcastle headstones with fond memories.Maybe a nice little written sermon from yourself. I think it could help with the grieving process and help ease some fans pain.
    (I’m not having a dig at you Andrew πŸ™‚ )

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  36. Alan Dobso I would say without a shadow of a doubt they were more loyal, plus most players played for their local clubs. But I think money has changed everything, its the same in most walks of life now most people are more interested in money, but not all I know I could make more money if i wanted to, but im happy and my family are happy. I Think πŸ˜†

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  37. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, I believe Carroll and I think Ashley couldn’t resist getting his hands on Β£35 million in exchange for a striker that cost nothing and came up through the ranks. I also think were Hughton still in charge Carroll would still be here, and Nolan and Barton would have new contracts because Hughton had the balls to stand up to Ashley 😐

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  38. Loyalty is well alive. Just look at Robbie Keane. He always plays for the club he supported as a boy, regardless of who he plays for.

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  39. Colm maybe thats why the Fatman sacked Hooters, so that he could sell Judas because he knew Hooters would say no your not selling him πŸ˜‰

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  40. Fed up of hearing about how Hughton had balls πŸ™„

    Consumate yes man who rolled into bed with Ashley at the first chance, got fuck all out of him, yet he has balls. Baffling πŸ˜•

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  41. ell big dave, sorry to burst you bubble, had the pleasure to spend some time with the late great len shackleton, and it was his view that the players didnt move because of the system that was in operation during those days, everyone got the same money, the only reason someone would want to uproot was perhaps to win medals, but those days the dominance of a few teams was nowhere near like it is now,any club could win the cup, maybe half the league could have won the championship, he went onto say that players regularly fell out with clubs over money, so in a nutshell players would have most definitely moved on once the color of cash was shown, loyalty is a red herring, always will be.

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  42. And is that good a amanger he has only just gone to Brum after how long out? And lets not kid ourselves that yeung likes to give the manager what he wants! He is a decent manager and a top bloke, but thats it man. Sick of reading the love in posts

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  43. I totally reckon you’re right Big Dave, I heard Pardew is a good ‘mate’ of Ashleys and thats the main reason he got the job, and basically being his ‘mate’ means going with whatever Ashley says, and if you need examples look at Carroll’s sale and Barton and Nolan not getting the deal they wanted and want in Bartons case !!! πŸ™„

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  44. Yeah i would have tbh because he is a cracking leader and a great goalscorer, i would have been happy to give him a 5 year deal because he has such great spirit and drives the team on, must admit im worried about who will give us that drive now “/

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  45. Still talking loyalty fifty years since George Eastham demanded the right to leave NUFC and began an entire new era for players, who untill then were bought and sold like cattle.
    An era where salaries were decided by the board, take it or leave it !
    Of course there was no tv revenue and there were no new strips each year, it was the few bob that you paid at the turnstile only.
    However the wages were for the most part on par with a mid level executive, a smaller percentage than to-days earnings.
    Had it not been for pioneers like Bosman and Eastham, plus agents where would players be ?
    Some think that players now have the hammer in negotiations and thats debateable, as we are really not privy to contracts in general, nor profit and loss in privately owned companies.
    But to even bring the subject of loyalty to question is silly.
    Players have a limited earnings window of somewhere in the region of eight to twelce years and have to maximise their earnings, which leaves little room for loyalty.
    And believe it, those like Gerrard are well compensated for their “loyalty”!

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  46. Chuck raises an interesting point, about pioneers. Bosman, Webster etc…..

    Bobby Robson was another. When reading his autobiography he was one of the first to kick up about getting extra money for being on TV (I think it was at Fulham at the time) and he talked of forming a movement to support it.

    Mind you, the club caved in and there was one of the first contract incentives back in the 50’s

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  47. As an outsider it looked very much like he was forced out. An action which if I was him would leave me equally disenfranchised with the club I used to love. Imagine if you girlfriend ditched you for some sugar daddy – thats how i imagine it felt

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  48. thing is paddy- Carroll said there was no way he would ever leave Newcastle, even if Ashley told him they wanted to take the money what stopped Andy from rejecting the move away?
    After all he had number 9 shirt, scoring for his local club, adored by his manager, players and the fans…..He was offered more money and left because we wouldn’t match Liverpool’s wage offer.
    He put in that transfer request and signed a contract at another club when he could have told Ashley he was staying. Now rumor has it he’s not settling on Merseyside and is feeling home sick….. the grass isn’t always greener. He took a risk and chose money over his childhood dream of being a newcastle legend and it may not of payed off-time will tell.

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