The top-10 battle!

Cabaye the lad - The first summer signing.
After reading this site, and a few other ‘inferior’ sites, I have come across one common theme. Why are we not splashing the cash and moving faster in the transfer market?

We can all agree, I hope, that this season the first aim is to avoid relegation and, after that is easily (hopefully) achieved, that we should be looking towards a top-ten finish.

Taking away from the obvious £35 million to be spent on purchases, wages and agent fees, which some seem to gloss over as it suits the needs to lambast everyone, we have a net outlay of £500k in transfer fees. Taking into account agent fees and contracts I would hazard a guess that we have around £15/20 million still left to spend. As the actual transfer window only opened properly today I’d like to take a look at where we are in comparison to our other top-ten rivals apart the obvious ‘big six’.

Newcastle – So far we have got rid of our captain and top goalscorer from last season, two old, bit-part players and a loan ‘star’ who made two sub appearances.

In their place we have brought in a £6 million striker with a better than one in two record for free (Ba), a key member of last years French title-winning team for £4.5 million (Cabaye), and a highly rated winger also for free (Marveaux). We also have Hatem Ben Arfa and Dan Gosling back fit and able and have announced Mehdi Abeid today. With over two thirds of the window still remaining we are desperate for another striker though.

Aston Villa – Aston Villa are a side that struggled last year and have lost their manager to health issues and have replaced him with the man who just got their bitter rivals relegated. They have also lost their star man in Ashley Young, their goalkeeper Brad Friedal as well as John Carew and Nigel Reo-Coker. They have yet to sign anyone.

Blackburn – I’ve added them because they seem to make a lot of noise about buying players. So far they have sold Phil Jones to Manchester United and have yet to buy anyone.

Bolton – A good side with a good manager, but they have lost their star goalscorer from last year in Daniel Sturridge and have also seen the back Johan Elmander. They too are yet to buy anyone.

Everton – A solid side with a decent manager. Only sold James Vaughan but again yet to buy anyone.

Fulham – I’d personally say that we are a better side. They have lost their manager in Mark Hughes but replaced him with a great manager in Martin Jol. So far they have signed Dan Bunn from Darlington.

Stoke –The toughest side to beat in the Premier League for me. They have lost Eidur Gudjohnson and Abdouleye Faye and, you guessed it… bought no one.

5under1and – A side managed by a rotund man with a very large head. They have so far lost Bolo Zendan and I would say made the deal of the century in selling the average Jordan Henderson to Liverpool. They are the only other threat to have signed anyone with a big money move for Connor Wickham. A good signing in Craig Gardener. Bosman transfers of Kieran Westwood and Seb Larsson plus the Korean Iva Big Dong (Ji Dong-Won).

Now looking at that, what screams out to me is not ‘why aren’t we moving faster’…

But seriously, we are already well ahead of our rivals and the transfer window doesn’t usually heat up until the last couple of weeks. I think we are towards the top end of this section in terms of first XI anyway.

I perceive our transfer business so far as three quality signings in for one anyway. Pardew’s already said that we are still looking to bring players in.

Chill out and enjoy your summer… What’s the point in stressing? In Mr Ben we trust!

56 thoughts on “The top-10 battle!

  1. 7th should be the position targeted this year. Outside the top 6 the standard is pretty poor so with good investment we should look to attack that spot.

    On the transfer outlays – are we saying that if we hadn’t have sold Carroll we’d not even be in a position to bring in free transfers? After all it looks like they’ve costs us a small fortune!

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  2. Agree with Stuart79…should be going for 7th but I’d be happy with top ten.

    I think the squad is better now than it was so bring next season on…

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  3. Stuart i think even 5th this coming season is a realistic target , i can see both Arsenal and Spurs losing ground on the other “big” teams . Arsenal seem to be about to loose some of their best players and Wenger never spends the sort of money it will take to replace them and Arry has been told by his board to shift players out before he can buy . I can see both of them sliping into the group of clubs like Liverpool , Everton , Bolton and the likes of us Stoke and Fulham joining them in the battle for 4th to 8th

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  4. Had we not thrown away a 3 goal lead on the last day of the season, our finishing place would have been 9th.

    So should that not influence our expectations for this season?

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  5. Unfortunately Stu, he is laughing at the expense of all those gullible to believe him and follow him. Some cling to desperate hope that he is telling the truth, even though him and his mates are sat in a beer garden laughing at all the comments.

    I wish people would stop following him and take away his voice but alas, people seem hooked by his constant drivel.

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  6. But just in case he’s right, can someone [email protected] him….er tweet him and tell him to tell Defoe my house is up for sale, probably a bit more upmarket than he’s used to, but still…… 😀

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  7. Does the income we receive from gate receipts, tv money etc not pay the players wages. After all the expenditure ie wage bill must have dropped considerably with the likes of nolan and campbell departing. The fat man just takes the pi–!

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  8. FFS- 2 years ago player wages took up something like 80% of all revenues- and that was before relegation. That would lead to bankrupcy in any normal busneiss in a matter of a few years. That is why trimming the wage bill is important to the club. The only reason the club will even be close to breaking even last year is becuase of the Carroll sale.

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  9. Toonsy,

    correct me if I am wrong but the 35 million wasn’t included in recent accounts released? (last years)

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  10. I think we can finish easily in top 10 infact we can finish in top 6 or 7 if we can keep our players fit

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  11. Squad at 1 July should finish in top 10. Add a decent striker and we could finish higher.
    Big worry is we lose squad members on 31 August and start 1 September without adequate cover for Barton, Enrique and ,dare I say it Tiote – money talks!

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  12. Moreno at 15. by last year I mean our first season back in the Prem- those have not been released I do not believe…

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  13. How can anybody believe that the A/C money has gone on wages agent fees etc, Agree with Freddie Shepard @11 100%

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  14. On the Carroll money, I don’t care how it gets spent as long as we have a better squad, and the only way we can judge that will be on 1st September.

    It will get used in one way though, whether that be wages, improvements or paying down debt (see my next article 😉 ) I’m nit bothered. The quicker we get rid of debt the quicker we can hopefully attract somebody who will lavish the cash that people want.

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  15. Missed West Brom of here. They’ll be there or there abouts i reckon. Fulham surprise candidates for the drop as they have a tiny squad and they’ve got more games this season

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  16. I agree trimming the wage bill is important and living within your means is important. But wages should be factored into the expenditure of the club and the income that we receive now should be sufficient to cover these wages without dipping into judas`s money

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  17. The article correctly points out that sunderland have begun to spend the excess transfer money they received for Henderson and Bent, so they have used the cash to improve and invest in their squad which is now a lot stronger.
    We, on the other hand, are eternally grateful for 2 free transfers, a replacement for Nolan and an 18yr old kid with many citing wages, etc, etc, fees, blah, blah, blah, as all being part of our transfer kitty.
    Before AC was sold, we were fed the line that we were well on the way to being financially viable so his fee should be surplus to any financial plans they had this summer, wages etc shouldnt come into it, they are part of the running costs paid for by general turnover and in any case by my reckoning, the wages of Campbell, Kuqi, Ireland and Nolan would pay for new lads, no problem.
    I feared this would happen, they have been a proper set of bandits from day one and nothing has changed.

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  18. I wouldnt say the mackems have improved, they lost wellbeck and the rest of thier loanees and have signed potential in connor wickham, an average midfielder and some korean I’ve never heard of along with a free whos pretty crap larrson and some other bloke for nowt
    We have signed three young internationals have ben arfa and gosling back a kid for the reserves and still have a load of cash to spend – we’ve currently only lost nolan so I’m not sure you can say we haven’t strengthened ya muppet

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  19. Rorycn good thread and a lot of good points made, I just think no matter what happens there will always be some that are not happy.
    I am pleased with the players that we have brought in up to now and hope that we will still add more before the window closes, but to be honest I dont really give a fuk about the Carroll money aslong as we have a better team than what we had.

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  20. MDS, not the point, you cant tell me shipping 4 out and 4 in is strengthening the squad with a lot more to go and only 2 possibles to come in, the inference from Pardew and the board was that the AC cash would be spent on the squad, now the brakes are on, the excuses are coming out.
    I would ask you, would you be happy going into the season with what we have got now?

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  21. MDS, not the point, you cant tell me shipping 4 out and 4 in is strengthening the squad
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    Yes, call me crazy, but I believe Ba, Marveaux and Cabaye are better players than Kuqi, Campbell and Nolan.

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  22. Dave, a fan for 40 odd years and have the mental scars to prove it, i have been through Westwood, McKeag and the rest of the bandits but this lot are the worst, they couldnt give a shit about the fans.

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  23. Robert…Pardew made it clear the £35m would be spent on fees & wages. I think you’ve inferred otherwise…

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  24. Robert imo we have lost 2 Carroll last season and Nolan, I wouldn’t count Kuqi or Campbell as the were only making up numbers
    Reet catch you’s in a bit

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  25. Witters, so the wages of the players who have left and who are leaving dont come into the reckoning then?

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  26. Dave @ 27 – Spot on my Northern Irish friend.

    Jobey – Its a Facebook problem and nit a site problem 🙂

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  27. On the day after carrol sale pardew said ‘All the money from the sale of Andy Carrol will go on players another number 9 and to improve the squad’. Two weeks later owlhead said ‘All the funds to go on new players,wages, training ground (under soil heating).We all want our club to be run responsibly. We have a great chance to catch other teams above us by buying players to strengthen our first team and squad, Most fans want some hope that we won’t struggle,we have not got depth up front, r/b, r/w ,c/d, l/b, d/m. I don’t care how much we spend of the £35m but we must get good cover and show some ambition

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  28. Why don’t the ‘what happened to the £35m’ and Ashley bashing brigade set up a new blog and give the rest of us some peace? That way they can repeat the same old songs ane eventually disappear up their own Rs!

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  29. If we hadn’t sold Carroll wouldn’t we want about 10mil spent anyway? I know I would, maybe spread through contracts and fees as well and that’s basically what we’ve spent so far anyway…. Not that i’m that fussed as long as the team and squad are improved reasonably, and they have been so far. We’re also moving faster than many argue…but I still think we should be looking to bring 2/3 more players for a net of 10/15mil…

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  30. Jermain Defoe viewing property in Newcastle today
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    AOD- it is from CWarr so translated it means defoe is automobile shopping in Plymouth

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  31. where’s the money gone? watch this space! best jon must be a math teacher in Newcastle. everybody an enthusiast. 😉

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  32. Although I would be happy with a strengthened squad regardless of what is spent, It can’t be denied that if minimal funds are spend by 1st September, Keegan would have been proved right when he said that we wouldn’t see the Carroll money…

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  33. I have to agree with Robert that it is important we spend every penny of the Carrol money on the squad.

    When comparing ins and outs why aren’t people considering Carol as an out? He wasn’t sold in this transfer window but is another player that has left the club. We got 21 points in the second half of the season which taken over a full season puts us 5th bottom with Wigan.

    Also why are we considering players returning from injuries as ins? Are we saying that no one is going to get injured next year?

    I’m extremely happy with the players bought so far but we’re almost guaranteed to loose Enrique and even world class foreign players usually take a while to adapt to the premier league. Unless we buy 2 or 3 extremely good players in the next few weeks I don’t think we’ll start the season with a better team than we had January of this year.

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  34. Deluded mags you will never change!! top 7 lmao the french payers are coming from a league no better then the championship there only good for putting their hands up…. hence no other clubs were in for the players you losers have signed! a relegation battle beckons Shola and Loverkrands upfront hahaha

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  35. Relegation battle or not… As long as we finish ahead of you mackem scum. 🙂

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  36. any1 else notice how many of fergies rejects scumberland seem to buy lmao fergie aint dumb when it comes to footballers

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  37. Ah DeludedMag, where do I start, firstly are you one of us? if not surely your user name should have been DeludedMags! also it should be “they’re only” not “there”, still maybe picking on your English is a little cruel being as the education system is practically non existent in 5under1and. Secondly, maybe the French league is Championship quality but it still spawned the likes of Henry, Drogba, Essien, Nasri, need I go on? Speaking of the Championship who’s quality you’re ridiculing, who’ve you signed, Westwood, Gardner, Whickam and Larsson, all play/played for clubs that are now in the Championship. Thirdly Liverpool were after Marveux for starter’s, a host of clubs were after Ba, 7 goals in 12 in the Prem compared to Whickam 13 in 65 in that league you think is crap.
    So to finish, basically your football knowledge is even worse than your English, hard to believe but there it is in black and white. Now run along little boy, consider yourself embarrassed.

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