Room for movement and improvement?

More out before more in?
There is a lot of debate going on right now on numerous Newcastle fansites, and the biggest issue seems to be the fact that there isn’t a whole lot of the £35m from the Andy Carroll sale being spent.

That money was promised to be reinvested in the team, but It’s now surfacing that even though Demba Ba and Sylvain Marveuax were free transfers, they still cost the club a few quid in agent fees and such. There has also been some money invested in training ground improvements, but exactly how much of the £35m has been spent is unknown, despite some people who claim the have insiders and figures, we just don’t know.

But is there really room to spend right now???

I have just looked at our squad, and we currently have 24 senior players on our hands, that’s without counting Dan Gosling and Tamas Kadar, who I think are right on the edge of having to be registered to play. If anyone knows if they have to be registered for this season then please feel free to correct me. Here is a list of those that will have to be registered next season.

GK: Steve Harper, Tim Krul, Fraser Forster.
DF: Danny Simpson, James Perch, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini, Mike Williamson, Jose Enrique.
MF: Cheik Tiote, Yohan Cabaye, Alan Smith, Joey Barton, Danny Guthrie, Ryan Taylor, Wayne Routledge, Sylvain Marveaux, Jonas Gutierrez, Hatem Ben Arfa.
ST: Demba Ba, Shola Ameobi, Leon Best, Peter Lovenkrands, Xisco.

Now with with 24 players we only have room for one more “senior” player to register, so right now I really don’t think we should be expecting too much activity. We will have to move players out before getting players in, because we all know that Mike Ashley won’t have any players here that we can’t use, and then still have to pay their wages. Although you might say we already have players like that with Xisco springing to mind.

So there isn’t really much that can be done right now, although the speculation of incoming players will continue, but the fact is we don’t really have much elbowroom to make any moves until we offload some players.

Thanks to Alan Pardew Project for giving us this to publish. It’s rather topical to be honest and mirrors what Alan Pardew said yesterday.

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66 thoughts on “Room for movement and improvement?

  1. Hmm,it can work in two different ways.

    Either the club continue buy all the players that are targetted,then the club offload the deadwoods.Or the club could try their best to offload the deadwoods first,before getting players in.

    Anyway,if the club is looking for striker,why not make a bid for Felipe Caicedo?? Young,decently tall striker. 😎

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  2. i think our transfer dealings will start again 24hrs before the window shuts with the fat man showing another profit – he’s got it off to a fine art now like.

    @ 1 – decently tall.
    that’s how hitman describes himself – but he’s only 5’4″ – so i hope your man is a bit taller.

    @ 2 – aye.

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  3. Only one thread so far today…slackers!! 😆

    There’s a few in that list who Id like replaced & ideally sold on…Smith & Xisco.

    I’d keep Perch but only on the basis that we don’t have many options at RB although I’m wondering how I could possibly think that’s a good idea.

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  4. By Toonsy you are hard working like .. if you look at it like that, then yes not much room to work with .. mebs one more striker? jonas/gosling to cover right back? .. altho i’m pretty sure that Naylor will sign so something isn’t adding up

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  5. Aod – dont count on ma/dl to spend before any deadwood has been cleared. Some of our deadwood isnt exactly atractive buys eg smith, xisco

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  6. Pardew should worry at how thin our forward and defensive situations look and yes i agree there is still a lot of deadwood to move on.

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  7. We don’t have to include xisco in the squad anyway, nor do we need perch, we’ll lose a keeper, and were getting rid of Routledge and smith, so that’s 19 senior players at least we’ll probably have, so we can sign another six

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  8. Jordie – Can you see Xisco being left out the squad with the wage he is on? I can’t. He wasn’t last season…..

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  9. Xisco has been looked at by every manager we’ve had since he signed. None of them have been impressed.

    He’s also had two loan spells in Spain where his impact in La Liga has been underwhelming.

    He really isn’t good enough.

    Pardew’s got him for pre-season, so yet another NUFC manager can assess his abilities.

    Don’t hold your breath.

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  10. Id give Xisco a go.

    Ranger and Routledge look to be as good as gone, a keeper will be away too. Smudger hopefully.

    Im calm and confident come the end of the window we will be in a stronger position.

    £20mill for Downing?! Madness. Can see why they have done it, balls into the box for Judas, but theres cheaper better wingers out there than him. I hate to say it, but I think the bin dippers could be around there this season 🙁

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  11. Stupid offer if true, though Wigwam need to sell him as he only has a year left, he wants out and LPool wont go for him now they have Downing. Only Villa are real options so worth a punt, but need to go nearer £7-8 I think

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  12. 4m bid for Zog derisory to say the least, Downing going for 20m come on Ashley you were supposed to offer 12m in january. If that does`nt tell you how much he is taking the piss then I don`t know what does. He has no intention whatsoever of signing Zog with an offer like that.

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  13. £4m for zogs? Bargain! Realisticly speaking it doesnt seem serious but who knows if it is even real.

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  14. With bids like that none the wonder we are finding it difficult to attract players!

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  15. Having received 20m for Downing Villa are in poll position to sign Zog. Why because they are seriously prepared to spend the money they received on another player someone who will make a difference. Whilst we well I don`t want to go down that road all I say is all aboard Bobby`s train!

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  16. And just to add some soice to the curry, it’s rumoured on the tripe-rumours site, that…..

    “Newcastle have bids accepted for kenwyne jones and charles nzogbia”.

    😕 🙄

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  17. Raffo 😆 😆

    “Emergency exits are located at the back of the vehicle, towards the front of the vehicle, and in the roof, but if you need to get off quickly I’d suggest you follow me as I’ll be the first one off!”

    Sorry, just doing my safety announcement 😉

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  18. Fred – not strong mate just fed up with negativity.

    Toonsy – I will be in the fancy pull down chair in the front as the cheerleader so I will be right with you!

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  19. Holy sh*t,Ashley’s pulled a blinder,everyone’s distracted by the 35m so much they’ve forgotten that most clubs in the league get a summer transfer kitty to improve the team and he’s get everyone thinking the 35m is our transfer budget(and if you believe the club there’s not much left).Ed,can’t you do a piece on how much money teams receive at the end of the season?,people need to wake up.

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  20. Freddie Shepherd says:
    July 14, 2011 at 08:51
    Having received 20m for Downing Villa are in poll position to sign Zog. Why because they are seriously prepared to spend the money they received on another player someone who will make a difference. Whilst we well I don`t want to go down that road all I say is all aboard Bobby`s train!

    What about the money villa got for Ashley Young? Why didnt they sign Zog straight up after that?

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  21. I can`t say I know but maybe mcleish new to the job and taking time to evaluate his transfers

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  22. Surely Aston Villa would have to be a bigger selling club than Newcastle now…. Damn it 👿 It seems that every club around us is doing things better than us 😯

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  23. Lol Aussie,i mean’t Ed short for Editor of this blog.Do i get away with that excuse?,it’s the best i could come up with.

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  24. @johno

    Jump on board fella, it’s filling up fast.

    What surprises me is that people are surprised the reality train would be filling up so fast.

    This regime is so predictable I take no credit for reading them like a book but some of you need to learn to read. 😆

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  25. Damn it,maybe if i invent a time machine…..Good link TOONSY.Blood pressure has dropped a bit

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  26. MrMojoRisin76
    July 14, 2011 at 09:37

    “Damn it,maybe if i invent a time machine”

    Let me know when you do so I can transport myself back to a time when Newcastle won stuff! 😆

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  27. your setting yourself up for a catastrophic derailment Bobby. 😆
    One signing and all you reality passengers will be history… 😎

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  28. Come to think of it if i had a time machine i’d go back and repeatedly kick Mike Ashley’s dad in the nuts

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  29. Slightly off topic, food for thought for all those who think that Ashley is a greedy money grabbing cockney just out to line is own pockets. Just announced today that all his Sports Direct staff are to get bonuses worth around £40,000 each as reward for the success of the store.

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  30. Nice one Aussie, lets see how fast the MEGABUS fills up and see if we can beat the train !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  31. @ Dagga…. WTF – Why isn’t he spending that money on players!! 😈

    Sorry I couldn’t help myself. 🙂

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  32. Raffo – Of course we will. The train is outdated, inefficient, and stuck in it’s ways. It can’t change course or anything. Our Megabus is newer, sleeker, more efficient and “with the times”. There will be only one winner 😉

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  33. Whumpie – If you get on a comp, I’ve just e-mailed you how to get the comments up. If it’s not your e-maill addy then get in touch via contact and I’ll reveal all 🙂

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  34. Let’s not forget that Bobby is on that train too… reason enough to stay of it for me.. 😆 😆

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  35. I think we are all being rather ambitious with newcastle at the moment!
    Bobby in particular stressing that we should be aiming for top 7?
    Im sorry but that is not going to happen. We are a club that have just survived our promotion year… yes we have the heritage the stadium the fans but we dont have the players to be a top 7 team. You look at the likes of everton they havent spent a penny yet; they are realistic and the evertonians are content with their lot.

    I just feel we all need a reality check; we are a big club but the days of splashing the cash are gone for most clubs; we all need to sell to buy look at liverpool!
    But its how you reinvest is the key and to do so wisely which i think we hve so far.

    But we all maybe need to relax and realise that our first aim should be to survive again and aim for top ten. We cant bridge the gap to 6th just yet; but in two more seasons maybe we can 😀

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  36. I like it Toonsy – and with me as a backup driver we dont need to stop!

    Any thoughts on what this big announcement will be tomorrow? 😎

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  37. This is where people will just not read this article and say we have too small a squad. It’s quality we lack not quantity.

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  38. Nice one Liam

    Toonsy – seems we may have to go back to base and get a second bus for me to drive eh!? 😎

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  39. It’s simple,

    Routeledge should be gone by that stage, and Perch won’t be played. So no use giving him a squad number.

    That leaves room for three more.

    The point about the 35mil is also valid.
    What about the January budget that wasn’t spent? Or the budget we would have set had we not sold Carroll this season.
    Would it still be no capital outlay.
    What about the wages of players who have left?

    This bullshit of wages is also crap. You don’t pay for wages up front. Does Liverpool include wages in the 85mil they’ve spent on Carroll, Downing, Adam, and Henderson?.
    If that’s the case we should have a further 15mil to add to our kitty from the wages saved from Carroll, Nolan and Campbell. So that 50mil.

    Compulsive liars, this bunch… And they think we’re idiots.

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  40. James Perch, Danny Guthrie, Wayne Routledge, and at least one of our strikers could all be going.

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  41. @Liam
    If we actually invested the Carroll money we should realistically be looking at 7th place.

    However, it’s clearly not being used, in case we have injuries and we need it for January. 😕

    Dont forget Nolan paid for Cabaye. 😯

    Keep on dreaming boys and think of somemore big name strikers you hope we buy.
    The megabus is made of paper and tissue and once Ashley pisses on it, it will turn to mush.

    The reality train wants to go on the eurotrain to the Europa cup but expects not to go further than Swansea.
    😆

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  42. I cant see how it would make any sense to hold off on signing the right playerat the right place just because we have some dead wood we want to shift.
    If that happened we would miss the boat. I’d like to think that when a target becomes available and the conditions are right, the club will move in regardless of whether Smith, Xisco etc are still on our books. The registration deadline is not until the end of the window. If we fail to sell these players, i’m sure somebody will take them on loan for a minimal fee and percentage of wages met.
    Realistically we are going to let Routledge, Smith, Xisco and a goalkeeper go one way or another. Enrique will be off towards the end of the deadline and there are outside possibilities of the likes of Guthrie, Best, Lovenkrands, Raylor and Perch going if they do not accept being in the back up squad.
    We would not have a problem offloading the majority of those players with the exception of Smith and Xisco who will be loan deals.
    There is plenty of time to make space, so this really is not an issue.

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