Jose a step closer to the door?
A few weeks ago I saw comments from NUFC fans when Jose Enrique returned to Twitter, some of them upbeat and positive thinking that he wouldn’t be daft enough to return to Twitter and then leave. Unfortunately Enrique’s reason to return to Twitter is now clear, but it’s not the positive outlook some fans had hoped for.
Below are the comments Jose has made; Broken translation, but you’ll get the picture.
”In columbus now. I agree with the statements that echo today from Joey Barton”
What did Joey say? Well he said nothing really, he just said that he will fight for his place in the team until the end of the season, and then he will probably leave on a free but he wants to stay as he has unfinished business at Newcastle. Somehow I don’t think that Jose will be staying at all, interest in him will be rife now after his little outburst, and it’ll force our hand to sell. Also there is a remarkable difference in character between Barton and Enrique, Barton tried from January to May, and has put effort in this pre-season, the same can’t be said for Jose.
“The club is letting go of all the major players of the team. Seriously do you think it’s the fault of the players? Andy, etc etc Nobby”
These comments strike me as odd from Jose, why did he not do this when Carroll was sold? Or even when Nolan was sold, I just don’t get the reasoning for it now. Yes Carroll was our best player, but when big clubs come calling it’s hard to keep hold of them. Carroll went because Liverpool paid £35 million for somebody who was worth no more than 15-20 million, also he hardly put much of a fight up to stay, he handed in a transfer request for god sake. Nolan wanted a ridiculously long contract and he also jumped ship for a measly 5 grand a week more. We’re not just selling players left right and centre, Tiote’s still here isn’t he?
“This club will never fight again to be among the top 6 again with this policy.”
This was the easiest one to translate from Spanish. Does Jose seriously think we should be fighting among the top six at the moment, we’ve been back in the Premier League for 1 season and we’re meant to be competing with the likes of Tottenham, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal and Man City, who for the last few seasons have been splashing cash consistently. We would have to blow a huge amount of cash to get there in the coming few seasons under ANY OWNER, so it’s hardly as easy as Jose makes it sound.
“I believe that you, the fans are the best and you deserve the best for what you are doing with the club. Thank you all for supporting me”
Is this a farewell? It really seems like one to me, which saddens me. I really thought that Jose was one of our loyal players, before half way through last season; he repeatedly spoke of how he loved the club, the city and the fans.
Without his season in the Championship Jose would have been nothing, nobody wanted him. He would have went back to Spanish football and been an average left back, instead we kept him and he developed into a great left back – one of the best in the league in my opinion. He obviously doesn’t remember how poor he was in our relegated season; he’s getting a tad too big for his boots.
“They have given me the money I have already. They lie all the time. But is not for money is because they don’t want to spend money in the club.”
If this is true, which it probably is, it’s just daft. The fact we’d supposedly offered him a “very good deal” which is the same as his current deal is laughable, the thing is, I actually wouldn’t put it past Ashley.He probably thinks what he’s on already is enough; but if we’re trying to keep him we’re going to have to improve his wages surely. The reality is, none of us actually know his current wage or what he has been offered, so that’s where I will leave it.
I know some will think this is a good thing – because he’s spoken out against the regime, but I just think it’s utterly pointless. They’re not going to change because of this, but it just gives Jose the easy way out as they probably will want to move him on.
I know Ashley isn’t blameless, he’s always at the forefront of problems, but I think that Jose has taken this too far, and his unprofessionalism is going to effect the team – and not Ashley. It doesn’t annoy me so much that Jose wants to better himself and play Champions League football, the annoying thing is he’s clearly returned to Twitter for this reason – to cause a stir.
The likelihood is a few weeks down the line he will be sold, which will be good for 2 out of 3 parties, Ashley and Enrique will be chuffed, both getting money, the fans however are the losers in this. Hopefully his thoughts are not echoed by his best mate, and captain Fabricio Coloccini otherwise the team morale may take a battering.
As you can tell I’m not very happy with Jose, what are your views? « Is there a way back for Barton? | A way out for Alan Smith? »
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I agree jobey. Im not happy with him at all, and Routledge. Some things should be kept behind closed doors and this was one of them. It would have been easy for him to keep quiet anyway as he’s done it for months already!
Cheers Jose, sorry it pains you to be here, but its time to go.
Do you not think the reason he has waited until now to criticise and not in January is because he too might have been promised the money would be used to reinforce the team and it clearly hasn’t been.
Honestly I actually think the currentl players are being lied to as well as us. How long until Marv, Ben Arfa and Tiote ask to leave because of what they were told is complete bollox!?
toonsy I will refer you to a comment I made to Spencer on the last thread about someone stealing from you and a mate knew. Would you expect him to tewll you or wait for the thief to let you know?
Well done, Jose! About time someone told us what was really happening – although some of the less gullible supporters already knew so it doesn’t come as a major shock, therefore not too angry. Just confimed it really.
Extremely well written article. Jose is definitely away. Airing your grievances on twitter is unprofessional. I would sell ASAP and replace with someone who wants to be here. You should never bite the hand that feeds you and as you say without that season in the championship he would be nothing. Good riddance
I had posted a big post but the site went down
Yeah he could go quietly and sneak out the door like Judas and tugboat, but maybe Jose and Joey dont want to be tarred with the same brush as them 2. and if they have done nowt wrong imo they have a right to let the Fans that they respect know. As if they had done owt wrong the club wouldn’t be to long in letting it slip out what they had done
Completely disagree with you here Toonsy.
I actually admire a Enrique for coming out and having the balls to say why he has chosen not to stay.
Same goes for Barton for giving the reason why he didn’t sign the contract offered to him.
We can all say as much as we want about the board being hard… Finally putting a stop to player power and massive wages and terrify the finances under control.
But are they being So hardball about it, that its got to the point where the atmosphere in the team is non exsistant. Players are desperately unhappy. And all that is going to result in is crap performances in the pitch and less patience by the fans.
This is turning into a disaster.
Typical Ashley… Terrible PR and no people skills … Just a bunch of lies to us and the players. And even the managers…
Total Prick…
well its Obvious jose is sick of the liars and wants out
Bit of an insult for his new team mates, Cabaye double winner and full international, Ba 1 in 2 scoring record and full international and marveaux a guy also attracting attention from champions league clubs (and liverpool as they count in Joses warped mind)
Cant disagree about the lack of ambition but maybe if his and his illustrious teammates hadnt got us relegated the club wouldnt have cut costs half as drastically…
JJ spot on matey
38 days til we find out the truth then. Calm down, f&@k.
Come on lads…money from Carroll has disappeared, no ambition been shown, it’s a shambles. Can only assume players getting same lies – so don’t blame him at all – put yourself in his shoes… Good luck to him, will be missed but it’s his career he’s got to think about rather than ashleys wallet
JJ – His Twitter account is now deleted. If anyone really thinks Jose has done this to become a martyr then they are going to be in for a shock. The reality is that it’s done for his benefit and his benefit alone. All this has done is cause a shitstorm from what should be a confidential thing.
Whether you agree with Jose or not, there are ways and means of getting his move. That’s what it’s all about. Not you, me, the fans, the players…..
It;s nice to see what he really thinks of his team-mates aswell. I’m sure Tiote and Ben Arfa are well chuffed that an uncapped left-back views himself so much better than they are…
Toonsy his twitter isnt deleted
Thing is the Ashley might be doing a lot of good things. But these contant lies are now becoming poison and despite good plans, his arrogance and lack of people
skills are going to bite him and the club in the arse.
Question
Can you see this team, with this attitude, and poor vibes and atmosphere fighting to come back from 2 goals down? Or do you see heads dropping and players giving up… I know my answer. And I’m very worried, the fans attitude and the pressure that puts on the players it going to be too much.
Too many fans hate Ashley and resent the lack of ambition and lies to not boo and cause a scene if results go sour early in the season.
JJ i completely utterly think you’re spot on. I don’t blame Jose at all. He’s being honest. And he may have been sold lies by the Ashley regime.
Batty – Yes it has. “This user does not exist”
toonsy well i can still tweet him and read his account
Toonsy as I said he could have copied Judas and Nolan and sneaked out but atlest this way we know that there is a reason other than money.
I dont think anyone is stupid enough to not believe that all this is for Jose’s benefit
oh hes just tweeted back too me and sed hes banned all the dicks
I’d rather have Tavernier trying than Jose fannying around with a face like a slapped arse.
Batty I think you should stick your money on your predictions
or maybe just hold back incase your aiming to high 
perch is a good replacement so iam not realy worried that he is leaving
dave aye m8 14th too 17th lookin dodgey now
Jobey there could be a real good reason he has a face like a slapped Arse
JJ
I went to the hull match after keegan had left and because of them who boo and cause a scene if results go sour we ended up with a horrible atmosphere and technically the result that relegated the club, Hull on the back of that beat arsenal/spuds/wham and wba to stay up at our expense.
Due to the reaction that day we ended up with the club up for sale, Joe kinear as boss, Zog and shay heading for the exits and us back in the second tier, I would hope lessons have been learned…
CC – Can you say you think they have though, because I can’t
Ye Toonsy,
Shearer, Keegan, Barton, Enrique, Carroll have all basically stated Ashley is a liar… We didn’t need them to but its clear, the frustration is going to boil over.
But regardless, Ashley holds all the cards and doesn’t give a shit…
I hate the guy, I can respect his business sense, but as a person. He is scum… And the players feel the same.
Dave – He wants to be at Liverpool?
CC
Unfortunately, most supporters don’t think with their brains they think with their hearts.
I garauntee if things don’t change quickly the same bitter atmosphere will be repeated.
That is what has me so worried… It’s not right but its inevitable.
Reet lads. Server is going off for 15 mins or so while we tinker with things. Apologies in advance. We’ll be back soon.
Jobey
If our owner doesn’t stop bullshiting, there are going to be a lot more players with faces like slapped arses leaving and a few more managers in and out the door.
It’s all very well having players play for the shirt regardless. But we’ll end up with a reserve team and Alan Smith. Which will see us back in the championship soon enough.
The fact Jose has just used this to get his move has annoyed me ; he obviously doesn’t wanna be that honest with the fans as he’s deleted his account
Jobey how else is he going to let us know. as for deleting the account its maybe because of the much shite and abuse his own fans were giving him for speaking out
do you guys really feel this way? i mean jose fair enuff looks like he wants out, but none of this would have happened had we not sold carroll or nolan. People think 35 million was worth for carroll but how was it worth it if hes not reinvesting in it? All the players we have got have been free apart from cabaye whos price tag was filled by the nolan sale and people wanting jose out because he doesnt want to play for the club and saying that we should bring in somebody who will replace him. Well we all know that aint going to happen because so far all the investment we have seen has been on player wages. And alan pardew claiming agent fees and what not make up for the money is a load of shit cause no way would it come up to more than 5 mill for all 3 players we have got so far. All i can say is i love newcastle and always will till death, but its killing me to see our club being treated like shit by that fat fuck ashley and derek the dick. dark days ahead as i feel sunderland will start to become what we used to be back in the day. We need him out some way or another!
It seems fans only want the players to be “honest” when they are brown nosing and saying how Newcastle is the bestest club in da wowd!!
The moment they say they aren’t happy and want to leave, then they should shut up, not speak and bend over like an obedient boy.
Kudos to Enrique for having balls to speak his mind. He can now finally leave and we can maybe let Kadar and Ferguson try to cement a place in the squad on a regular basis.
AND at the start of last season we had a team. That is rapidly dissolving!
Take your blinkers off. You are starting to sound ridiculous.
The ‘regime’ told Cabaye that their aim was a European spot THIS season. Only an idiot would believe that now.
I wouldn’t be surprised and wouldn’t blame him if he goes next season stating a lack of ambition and being lied to.
Maybe that’s the real reason we’be been ‘scouring’ Europe – maybe the European players are less likely to have heard of Ashley’s reputation.
Sad to see Jose go but nice to know there are some people at Newcastle who can tell the truth. Shame its not the manager or owner and their cohorts.
Enrique just wants to move – he’s spoke on the radio about it and ignored meeting the board this summer to discuss contract talks. The fact he wants to go is just being ignored is it? if he hands in a transfer request fans dislike him, if he slags off Ashley and Ashley sells him, he gets applauded for calling Ashley and Ashley gets stick for selling him – He’ll now get what he wants and a nice shining reputation. Well Jose, if you’d tried towards the back end of last season we wouldn’t have conceded the third goal against West Brom and we would have had a top 10 finish. Adios.
Right, we’re back, and we should be quicker now *touches wood*
@PhilRoscoeITV
Philip Roscoe Jose Enrique says the tweets came from another account, not his #nufc
CC –
Yes. He wants to go because the owner and his chums are liars, fail at running a football club, and have only slightly more than zero ambition.
So, yes, he does want to go.
Who wouldn’t?
So he wants to go because he is being lied to. The payrise will have nowt to do with it of course
CC- I think thats just a BS cover up for Jose…
Eg. Carroll and steve wraith.
I’m sure Jose loves the club. It’s okay, he will hold us his in heart when he’s with Carroll at Liverpool…
Well he’ll probably get a payrise at a club with some ambition.
So then lads, what reception does Jose get next season?
Aye spencer i think i worked that bit out
, Probably old news but these look encouraging:
MsiDouglas Mark Douglas:
As for terms, I was told Erdinc agreed terms last month before the delays so HOPEFULLY it won’t be an issue. #nufc
MsiDouglas Mark Douglas:
Interesting news on Erdinc. Club bypassing his agent, it seems. He’d told them they’d need to pay 10m… Now they’ve agreed 6.5m fee #NUFC
cwarr07 Colin:
Erdinc in Newcastle on Monday for his medical, everything else agreed will sign a 5 year contact #nufc
SkyGraemeBailey:
Not just an interest for Erdinc fee agreed, personal terms agreed, in Newcastle on Monday for his medical
We are in the Premier League!! Global audience. He sells the local hero and then our captain (top goalscorers) and then wants two top players like Enrique and Barton sold/out. Madness! He has no ambition for us as a football club. Zero! Only an ambition to balance it and sell up which is totally selfish… if he keeps doing shit like this, with any injuries or the free signings being a failed gamble, we could end up being in trouble, which really would fuck up his financial plans. What a twat!
So we going with no america wasn’t a top idea then?
What I want to know is when will the ragtop journo’s start putting some serious questions to pardew.
Accuse him of being a blatant liar, regarding a fantastic new contract for Jose. Ramp up the pressure on the club and demand answers. And stop sucking ass.
I’m sure ashley luvs all this tho.
CC – You’ll get called a dreamer for posting that
Didn’t that Graeme Bailey say that Lille and someone else were closer to Erdinc aswell? Covering bases?
jose is spot on and everyone knows it, jabba and co dont wana build on the team they just wana build on buying and selling, making fat get fatter and uses pardew as his mouthpiece for excuses, we would rather they come out and be hnest but we will wait a long time for that!! barton jose etc see as we do good on them making it hard for fcb
the sky graeme bailey was a tweeet to him from Colin shittchatter
BB – Will never happen. They’ll just get banned and they won’t want that.
Fine then catch him with a post match interview live on tv.
But no that wont happen either pussy commentators too shit scared of being outlawed by the regime
So they just get away with it then
Bend over lads and lasses. Nay lube allowed, going in dry.
ENJOY.
yea pardew is defo employed to do the dodging quesions ashley and lambsass dont wana face, pardew takes the initial sting out of it, its the only reason he got the job
I reckon Jose is upset about this
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3712007/Alan-Smith-has-been-offered-a-chance-with-Orlando-City.html
If this is what Enrique believes then he should hand in a transfer request and leave. What do these players expect? Do they want us to spunk the whole of the £35m this summer? Where would that get us and where would it leave us? It wouldn’t get us in to the top 4 maybe not into the top 6. So it would probably be wasted. Surely it makes more sense to build slowly season by season. Isn’t that what we are doing. We have tried to get at least 2 top quality centre forwards, Gervinho and Gamerio. They didn’t want to come – not because of the lack of money or ambition but because they had their sights set on bigger clubs who play in the Champions League. In short they were too good for us in our current position. Have you all been watching ‘Field of Dreams’ ? Show them the money and they will come!!!! Very few clubs have bought anybody yet – with the exception of maybe Liverpool and Sunderland. We have all slated the players that Sunderland have bought, yet many of you would prefer us to be doing the same – spending for the sake of it. Will Liverpool’s vastly over-priced signings get them into the top 4? I doubt it. Their income is double ours but if they fail to make top 4 for a couple of more seasons then what then? They can’t afford a new stadium as it is. Spurs are having to sell before they buy and have recently found out that being in London doesn’t make them a big club – just a club in a city where foreign players would like to live. Do Spurs lack ambition? or are most players ultimately greedy tw@ts who sign a contract one week and push for a move the next. Will we ever see a player honour their contract except for his own gain (Sol Campbell, Owen, Viduka etc.) if they are playing well they want a rise or a move away. If they are poor, they sit tight and pick up their money. I’ve said this before on here: if Enrique leaves to join a current Champions League side, then good luck to him, if he goes to Liverpool ……. well you can fill in the blanks
Terrible article. Enrique has obviously reached breaking point, he isn’t a rogue player who has spoken out of turn, but one who is expressing the exact same views of many players, associates and (sensible) supporters.
We don’t expect to be in the top 6- but we damn should expect to be given the resources to fight to be at the top of the table and progress each season. We were relegated and promoted with a premiership team to all extents, so this ‘newly promoted’ tedious cliche is totally bogus. We were relegated because of a toxic atmosphere generated by the owner – he’s doing it all over again.
The Ashley system has nothing like the interests of you and me at heart, when someone like Enrique speaks out in the name of the club, you clobber him with this article.. shameful
Boater – Why is it terrible. It’s the author giving his thoughts, which is the idea of a blog. It;s there to agree with or disagree with, but not to be called terrible just because you disagree with it. It’s his opinion, like you have yours.
not spend 4 sake of it but target and try very best to buy quility esp striker and right mid, but the money men seem to think we will be happy when they say most of money has gone on agents etc, BULLS$%%$, thre was 35 mill plus sky money etc , when we sell we just dont replace let alone replace with better, hence pardew and ashley silence
Knocky – ever heard for paragraphs? I read the first line though about spunking £35mil… who has ever asked for that? A single penny of the £35mil would be nice though, not just imbued in to club expenditure.
Nolan and Carroll leaving aint even it.. it’s about ambition as jose says… total failure to use those transfers amounts to build the squad.
Boater – Nice constructive feedback
Also, Terrible post – as i do not have the same views, it must be terrible
boater
July 24, 2011 at 23:53
“when someone like Enrique speaks out in the name of the club, you clobber him with this article.. shameful”
And don’t make me fricking giggle with that
If you think Jose is being a martyr to us fans you’ll be sadly mistaken. Santa Claus is not real either. This is purely for his own benefit – playing on the ill feeling to make himself look justified in leaving.
Fair enough, but why do it in public? I mean he’s been as quiet as a mouse for the last six months….
The thing that p1sses me off, is that apprently its caused unrest in the camp, if that is the case, I foking hate the spanish…. Theres one thing trying to get out of a club, but causing unrest in the camp is just not fair on the fans or the other players.
boater
July 24, 2011 at 23:56
“Knocky – ever heard for paragraphs?”
Grammar police now aswell…….
Ever heard of starting sentences with capital letters?
Toonsy- Is santa really not real?
toonsy to be fair his account was hacked…
Knocky,
I think the main concern seems to be that it is the likes of Enrique, Jonas, Barton, Carroll, Tiote and Nolan who are either sold or seem at most risk to be sold while we keep the likes of Smith, Perch, etc. I like Smith too but if anyone should go, it’s him.
We can’t build a squad if the higher class players we have are always the ones sold on. We just become like Wigan then, who have had some brilliant players over the years but face a yearly relegation battle as they have to sell on the gems they uncover from Zimbabwe and Papa New Guinea.
Wigan have the same transfer policy as us – not Arsenal.
Sorry Spence, but no he isn’t
CC – Ah yeah, forgot about that. Some people are going to look silly in the morning if that is the case
“Carroll hardly put much of a fight up to stay, he handed in a transfer request for god sake. Nolan wanted a ridiculously long contract and he also jumped ship for a measly 5 grand a week more. We’re not just selling players left right and centre, Tiote’s still here isn’t he?”
This is supposition presented as facts. Enrique is saying not to trust the owner and yet you chose to ride roughshod – along with that of Keegan, Nolan, Barton et al, in favour of patsy Pardew.
The owner and his regime is a deeply malevolent force- seemingly hellbent on undermining the supporters AT EVERY FUNKING TURN. It astounds me that anyone could still be clinging on to the hope that the many dissenting voices from distinguished club personnel are islolated cases, or don’t represent the real best interests of the club.
are we gona wait till most off the experienced players are sold on before we say anything or let ashley carry on trying to keep us up with reserves?
How can we build a squad when players constantly want more or they want away?
The bottom line is ashley doesn’t want to pay the exorbtant wages, so if thats what you want forget it.
I dont for 1 minute think Jose is on £60k/wk. more likely nearer 40. To offer him the same to stay isn’t going to wash.
The reason we cant get our 1st 2nd or 3rd choice strikers is most probably down to the low basic salary on offer. But we will keep on plugging away until the right mugs come along
Marvellous.
Boater, did you mean ‘of’ paragraphs? Condescending or what?
We do not attract top players. We need to look at players who are on the up and if we can get them at a good price then great. Unfortunately this means that sometimes we will put these players in the ‘shop window’ and some will want to leave to move on to ‘bigger clubs’ or for more money. That is the way football works – sad but true.
Liverpool and Sunderland’s owners have a high risk strategy, which if it fails will leave them in bother. We tried that for 20 odd years and it brought us limited on field success (not true success but entertainment) but left us financially screwed and if it wasn’t for Ashley we would have been another Leeds or Portsmouth. Time to try something else.
We may sign 3 or 4 more players before the window shuts or we may sign no-one. Maybe the actions and twatters of current players will put good players off signing for us.
Never mind one question for Mike Ashley, how about one question for us fans – who realistically would you sign with the £35m and would they come?
Toonsy – you keep repeating that, what does it matter if is saying it now… he has had enough. What a weird assortment of pro-Ashley denialists there are on here.
Funky,
The reason we don’t sell the likes of Smith, Perch etc. is that they are crap and no-one wants them – at least no-one who can afford the daft wages we have put them on.
I d sell enrique tomorrow but it looks like he overvalues himself as it appears no cl clubs have been in for him. Be a man and put in a transfer request instead of whinging on twitter. Bet it makes the new lads feel great that jose thinks their singings arent ambitious enough
Knocky – Leeds, Portsmouth, yeah yeah. You forgot to mention – Owen and Luque and the other expensive flops as a reason to never spend a solitary penny on transfer fees again – y’know in case we end up like Leeds or whatever.
Sorry man I do see the wider financial and historical context of what is happening, I do get it.
£35mil win fall treasure chest – gone AWOL – bar some comical and spin by Pardew. Signing section REMOVED, Journalists BANNED – key figures replaced one by one.. along with new contracts denied to anyone over 27. I know, I know Alan Smith…. but for every Smith there is a Speed, Shearer and Solano who contributed every week well into their 30s. It’s not football it’s about recouping costs and to be honest – yes, about getting one over the supporters that he has grown to resent more and more.
Pro-Ashley denialists
The catchphrase to describe those who have a differing opinion… Despite knowing feck all about me and how I’ve not bought any nufc merchandise in years as my little protest, but do go on….
Also this is how football will always be. Unless they bring in a salary cap or a system along the lines of Rugby League. Wigan were buying up all the best players because they were the best and biggest club and paid the biggest wages. The salary cap has given us a very competitive Super League, where many teams are competitive. It took Wigan maybe 10 years to win the Super League once the restrictions came in, but few can argue (possibly only Wigan themselves) that it hasn’t been better for the sport of Rugby League. As it happens, Wigan are again back on top, thanks to a period of player development and careful buying.
A salary cap in football – no chance, sadly.
100% agree with what Jose said, disagree with the way he has went about it.
Didn’t expect this from Jose at all, dunno how people can agree with what he’s said. The only reason he got twitter back was to do this – slag the club off, people who pay his wages, is there any where else where you can slag off your employers and get away with it?
Jose said the club are not bringing in quality players, I’m this will make him a popular figure among the camp, hopefully Demba sticks a nut on him.
He’s a little coward, to say what he said then to delete his account, he needs to grow a pair and think who stuck by him when he first came here and was a pile of rubbish, ah I forgot theres no loyalty in football stupid me…
March last year:
“I could stay here for the rest of my career because of the warmth I feel”
Jose would fit in well at Liverpool with Carroll, two lieing cowards who I hope fail in everything they do.
By the way, apologies for knocking the article. It is well written and the author has the right to voice their own opinion.
And Knocky – you make your points well. I don’t happen to agree with the ‘remember the state the club was in’ argument as a one-size-fits-all response to every action taken by him subsequently. Hitler started off by leading Germany out of a crippling recession.
Actual money aside, only Sunderland and Norwich have brought in more players than us and Liverpool have also brought in 4, the same number as us.
AndrewNUFC – Presumably you think Keegan, Shearer, Barton, Nolan, and Routledge are all lying ingrates who don’t have the interests of the club at heart. Jose is speaking out BECAUSE he values the club and it’s supporters. Good on him for speaking out.
How many valued NUFC voices will it take for you to WISE THE FUNK UP to the lying and cynicism of the Ashley regime?
Knocky – not many other teams had lost 23 goals from their first team and had £35mil in incoming transfer revenue.
If we had not even bloody sold Carroll I’d be thinking where is the FUNKING transfer money? 35mil to burn and bringing in walking wounded and freebies is a funking disgrace on a whole other level.
BOATER
Don’t twist my words.
Jose has every right to speak his opinion, but to say the players we’ve signed are not quality is disgraceful.
He doesn’t value the club at all to create a twitter account, slag his employers off who pay his wages, then to slag his team mates off then delete the account – you think thats having the club at heart?
What he said was nothing more than a publicty stunt to get himself a move, he hasn’t had the club at heart for months.
Doesn’t matter how wise we become, we cant change the way it is, so nay point keep moaning about it.
You do have one choice tho and thats to stay away on match days.
Wont happen tho, as we just keep on bending over and taking a good shafting. Gives us something to bitch about after all.
Boater- is it possible for a prem lge owner to run a club without spending his own money? Or do all clubs need to be run like manc ali shitty?
Is that what you would prefer for NUFC?
Toonsy why all the accusations that these comments are solely self serving from Jose? He can have his move anytime he wants, with or without any board bashing. What is it that he stands to gain so much from these tweets that you refuse to acknowledge any truth in or real reason for stating them?
JJ you can add her majesty’s courts to your list of parties that have called our wonderful owner out for directly lying about the running club. Good to know however after reading this that they are all wrong and Enrique is just trying to get himself to Liverpool.
Simple way to look at the Carroll cash, we’re 35 million closer to our next owner. Club is sold the moment he can get his money back, this kitty definitely helps.
Jose has been a bit of a tw@t of late, and I think he’s thinking he’s a lot better than he actually is. Getting tired of this love the club love the fans/evil Ashley stuff, if you want to stay for us then stay, otherwise don’t patronise us.
Anyway Ashley is clearly f*cking a lot of people over, so meh.
time to go you prick, his mind been gone since big nose said it’s a done deal anyway, this is just a excuse so fuk off. carroll left for money nolan left because he didn’t get a 5 year deal which imo is the right desision by the club, we’ve brought in improvements and got more creativity in the team we’ve got a lot of good young players coming through and it’s looks like erding might be coming to. jose is good but LB is not as important as central position’s, we’d get a good replacement for under 10 mil, i think izagerra from celtic would be ideal.
For those that say the Carroll money wont be spent i have 1 question. Is the transfer window closed ? we all know that most of the big deals are made in the last couple of weeks . What we have done is move quickly for free and cheap quality players before they were snapped up by other teams . Lets face it which premiership teams outside the top 6 would have turned down Ba and Marv for nothing ?
As for Enrique i say fcuk him , lets face it He said he would talk about a new contract when we were safe then changed to we will talk after the end of the season . So who is the real lair now .Yes Ashley has a history but the likes of Judas ,Tug boat , Barton and Enrique are using that now to try for a massive pay day out of Ashley or walking for a big pay day some where else then blaming Ashley for letting them go . Tug boat was lucky that his ex Bolton boss was willing to give him it and if Barton and Enrique really wanted to stay the contracts they were offered would of been signed by now ,but instead they use Tweeter to try and drum up interest from other clubs .Twattters one and all .No player should be holding the club to ransom .
Ashley sees God ,ask will NUFC ever win champions league ,God says yes but not in your lifetime.Then asks will my actions ever make me popular with the fans,God replies yes but not in my lifetime.
@axel
They joined the club because they thought the club had ambition.
They left or are leaving because they see they haven’t.
Simples
Went away for the weekend and come back to an episode of eastenders! Newcastle lose friendly, Barton to man u, another player on tour leaves, reserves are better than first team, Enrique apparently uses his twitter account to blast owners, and erdinc fee agreed for the 20th time!
Got to love it though… We are never far from entertainment!
HOWAY THE LADS!
I’m not sure it’s entertainment Liam…
Frankly the constant negativity that surrounds this club is really starting to get on my t1ts…there’s always some drama that only serves to undermine everyone involved with the Newcastle.
@AndrewNUFC
When did he slag the new players coming in, he criticized the club for selling major players. If Cabaye turns out to be good MA will sell him and buy a younger and cheaper player stating “The contract was there, he didnt want to sign”…..
Jose is slagging off this policy and Joey shares the same feeling, the only difference is that Joey wants to stay at the club and Jose wants out….
Kevin Nolan acted in a dignified manner, completed his move and then explained his reasons and still gets slagged off….
Mike Ashley and Derek Llambais are proven A-Grade Certified liars, it was not difficult for me to chose sides…..
Enriques account was allegedly hacked and these comments attributed to him are not correct
No way in the wide world would Jose bother to do what is alleged? It is the tweets of a cretin with the IQ of a mosquito who must be wetting themselves at the amount of bites.
There is no doubt selling Carroll for 35M and Nolan for 4M plus putting players on performance related sensible pay and buying properly is the way forward so if it is a true account who cares?
Let’s just support the Toon
load of rubbish, totally out of character for Jose – not saying he doesn’t want to leave but twatter account was obviously hacked – prob by Steve wraith
just not joses style to publicly slag off club all of a sudden – get a grip the lot of ya
LukeEdwardsTele Luke Edwards
Told #nufc will issue some sort of statement this evening – or afternoon if you’re in America – regarding Enrique. Not gone down well!
Tell ya what, in the unlikely event of his account begin hacked, it would probably be the best wind up ever
Bennys out for 6 weeks according to lequipe
Hitman
Ye, they have to think of a good lie first.
We need to do a blog on all the lies that have been told by this regime to date. It’s getting pathetic.
Just can’t see Jose making these comments, I’m sure above all else he has respect for his Captain and friends – Colo and Jonas. To make a comment about the club going nowhere and leaving his “mates” in the poop seems out of character.
benny fergie guthrie injured jose leaving ,who else is gonna leave or get injured ,i see a crackin season ahead
get on 14th too 17th 
I agree with Jose, we won’t be top 6 with Ashley’s policy/Arsenal jr. in place… Arsenal may not even be in the top 6 in 2 years way they’re going. As Man City already proved, there are plenty of loop holes in the new Plantini rules that city, chelsea, manure, real etc I’m sure have already found. No matter what the 2 idiots who “head” fifa say.. the billionaires will still rule and you need to spend to win… that simple.
“Jose”
oh wait we still have 35 days of the transfer window left no problem ,plenty of time too get players in
Makes me giggle when people bang on about lies. Its like its a new thing. Im surprised that there are so many people out there who are so prim and proper and have never lied before. Either that or there are so many hypocrites out there
You know how I deal with it? I don’t really pay attention to what they say. Dimples. You don’t feel let down then. Still, I’ll keep my eyes out for an honest billionaire for you all
and f#ck that “my account was hacked” bullshi!t Jose pulled. I would say the same thing…”yeeahhhh…my twitter account was hacked… with comments in spanish..then english…..yeah that sound believable”
CC – You got a link?
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2011/20110725_084137_ben-arfa-rien-de-casse.html
JJ – the club have difficult decisions to make and ultimately they have to find the money to back each decision up.
Talk Sport this morning – Alan Brasil stated that he has it on good authority that the club have had enough of all the constant slagging and moaning or morons. I agree with them. Time for fans to support the club or f off to another.
They don’t understand how lucky we are, where we are v where we could have been / could be. We NEED to be a sustainable club its an ideal everyone should strive for.
It was proven in the law courts that they are liars so why are people so shocked now?
I’ve never lied…oh wait just have
Who can honestly put there hands up and say they think Nolan was our best player? Better than Collo, Benny, Tiote, Barton? Madness.
Really getting quite sick of reading all the posts about the lying board and how hard done to the players are. Bollox.
Why do any of us fans care how much these players get paid? They get far too much anyway, but we are there to support the team, irrespective of who is in it and how much they get paid. Crazy. I will comment on transfers etc after the window.
I wana be on BSN9′s bus. So much good feeling
batty…I see “rock the stars” won the other day
There’s a huge difference between being sustainable and being run like a business. What do the real books look like without all the shady “oh all the contracts have been paid in full for 5 years?”. We Are God Damn Newcastle United!.. not fucking Wal Mart or Sports Chalet!!
Rich @ 118 – Exactly
How you doing mate anyway? Not seen you for a while
Raffo – My bus is still offering a service. Hop on
Toonsy…not bad mate, just been busy in UK, will get on more when I get back to sunny Spain at the weekend
People slag on Nolan’s goal return last year… but between Nolan and Carroll we had what.. 20 goals before Feb?? Nolan wasn’t going to start this year… but we have no one up front.. unless wor Sammy rises to the occasion.
oh dear – the doom and gloom merchants are loving it, Joses said nothing about the contract situation and all of a sudden people want to think he’ll come out on twitter and slag the club off.
There’s been a ton of people hacked on twatter, its not hard as you already have their username so can just run a password hacker against it
Comments made sound more like Steve Wraith rubbish that Jose especially given that even back in the day when Jose was very active on twatter he never responded to fans, too many toon supporters love negative news and want to believe all things bad
Ultimately I think Jose will be off somewhere but doubt very much he’ll slag off the club ala Duff
Sorry witters i find it entertaining imagine being a bolton fan….work would drag! nothing in the news!
Lads lets have a little recap;
enrique will probably go – we should have a replacement lined up.
Erdinc will probably sign
we may see a winger turn up aswell. To be honest id prefer another striker
Think thats about as good as it will get.
Stardust – I agree. I am happy to have a club to support and it is starting to boil my pi$$ all this talk of lying and how we must spend big or they are killing the club. Wrong. We were in so much debt we were on the edge. We must just take stock and think. We are still in a transitional phase.
the Club has known Jose’s leaving for 6 months now….yet have no replacement yet (Ferguson is a winger)…when was our last good LB? Bernard pt 1…that was a long ass time between good LBs
Stardust – what else did he say then? Was he suggesting they would sell? Was it directed at unhappy players or supporters?
@stardust
You really are a clueless creep.
You dont even go to the games yet you urge those that do, who have every right to criticise the club, to support another club.
All I ask is for Ashley to cut his losses and sell up and find another club.
He is a despicable liar and treats the fans with contempt.
If true, it’s a pretty damning indictment of the Ashley regime that gets plenty of support from a number of other sources.
However, I wonder why Jose used Twitter. Wouldn’t it have been better to call a press conference and hire a translator? I mean, why can’t he come out and say it in a forum where there can be no doubt what he thinks and whether he said it or not.
Instead he uses the most discredited rumour mongering medium on the planet. It makes me think he is making sure he has a place to hide if it all goes pear-shaped.
Can’t imagine the club will let this one slide without a comment or some sort of reprimand, if indeed he did say these things.
@stardust
Fans want to hear the truth and not flagrant lies.
We aren’t asking for us to spend huge amounts of cash. We are asking for the Carroll money to be reinvested in the playing side.
We’ve made £4m on Nolan plus wages on transfers. That’s well over £40m and if we’ve spent £15m of that then I will be amazed.
LETS NOT FORGET STARDUST YOU WERE ONE OF THE MOANERS WHEN HUGHTON WAS SACKED. SHORT MEMORY YOU MORON.
i agree with every word wor bobby says aboot stardust
Raffo – yeah indicated they were sick and had had enough (might want out) Brasil said if the “morons” realised all they’d done they wouldn’t be getting grief
Booby – the only true thing you’ve said – I was gutted when Hughton went but I support NUFC not one man
I’m glad José has spoken out, if indeed this is all attributable to him, as it confirms on what basis how many of us feel the club is being run. Through bare faced lies.
As for the article…
It’s no coincidence that José’s sensational form dipped around the time that Pardew replaced Hughton and Carroll was sold. I can’t believe nobody has questioned why this has happened. Seems strange considering the total commitment he had and passion he played with up to that point.
The club is letting go of the players.. I wouldn’t expect any player to have spoken out about the Carroll transfer immediately, as it happened right at the end of the window, and there were concrete assurances from the club that ALL of this money would be spent on transfers? Everybody conveniently forgetting that these days it seems? Having received those assurances, those players with ambition would be rightly expecting some decent transfer activity this summer. However, through time it’s becoming pretty apparent through embarrasingly spun statements via Pardew that we aren’t going to spend… If I were José I too would be wondering what the hell was going on.
This guy wants to play for this club, but he wants us to be challenging for European football, or at least showing that we are trying. He’s not had the slightest reassurance that is the case, and now those broken promises are forcing him into a position whereby he’s feeling he wants out. Not because he doesn’t want to be here, but because it’s dawning more and more each day the extent to which the club lacks ambition, and that lies aren’t just restricted to the manager and supporters.
José doesn’t say we should automatically be in the top 6 does he? You’ve distorted his words. He has said the club, under this regime, will never again show ambition to fight to be among that top 6. A very different thing.
If, as a club with a passionate support of 52,000 we can never again even attempt to aim for the top 6, what is the point? What is the point in this game if there is not the slightest desire to go there?
It sounds like the strategy is just to be in the Premier League and no more. I’d have to question the ambition of any player who didn’t question that approach.
As for the farewell, I think you’ve totally embarrassed yourself by saying José would be nothing without his season in the Championship. You think that talent he had would never have emerged somewhere else, and that the massive experience he gained from playing in the tin pot Championship is what made him the player he is today?
You really think that? Good grief.
Maybe this isn’t the easy way out for José. Maybe he does actually care and love the club, and us fans. Maybem just maybe, he is actually torn. He knows he has ability, but he also knows his career is limited and under this regime the club and his career is going nowhere, so if he doesn’t leave, he’ll just end up finishing season after season in 10th-16th position, watching player after player sold on?
Again, if he didn’t have serious concerns, I’d have to question his mentality and ambition.
I love the fact he’s done this. If we were a well run club, and he was unjustified then I’d be pretty peed off, as it is unprofessional. However, we are far from a well run club, we have an owner and his cohorts who constantly lie, feed us, the media and the players spin (aka LIES), and we have the audacity to have a go at any players who speak out against this joke of a management team? Let them all speak out, for if they had nothing to speak out against there would be silence.
The MASSIVE irony of this whole thing, is that he is potentially the best left back we’ve ever had, he’s ambitious and he loves the club. If we showed him even a glimpse of a blueprint that we are prepared to match that passion and ambition, I’d be willing to bet he’d stay.
Still José’s fault?
“the only true thing you’ve said – I was gutted when Hughton went but I support NUFC not one man”
It is not ‘supporting NUFC’ to continually act like a docile, unthinking sheep.
You are not helping the club by endorsing every bad decision made by the owner, in fact you are empowering him to make more bad decisions.
I don’t care if Ashley remains the owner AS LONG AS HE MAKES DECISIONS IN THE INTEREST OF IMPROVING NUFC.
If he continues to make decisions that harm the club, if he continues to lie and continues to lack any credible ambition then he is harmful to the club and it is my right to speak out about this.
if you DON’T speak out about things that are wrong or are damaging to the club YOU ARE COMPLICIT IN ALLOWING THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN.
Ashley is currently part of this club but not that does not mean he is good for this club. It does not mean that supporting the club means you must agree with him.
Wake up you silly sheep.
Cancer is a natural part of the host organism. Nobody who gets cancer says ‘oh its alright cancer is part of me so I must go blindly along with the damage it causes’.
You try to cut it out or stop the damage before it kills you.
Pootle “t is not ‘supporting NUFC’ to continually act like a docile, unthinking sheep.”
Oh my I hope the irony isn’t lost on you.
You’re comment is so biased its like the cancer to which you refer – perhaps some of the fans should be cut from the club as they contribute nothing but negativity and disharmony.
Well we won’t have to cut you from it as you don’t go anyway by all accounts.
Pootle – oh my – disarmed with a lack of information again – stop – its too much
I’m sure Universal Studio’s need someone to play Cheetah in Tarzan the Movie though – so you do have a future
Pootle says:
July 25, 2011 at 14:20
I think he goes now and again – it was just under FFS that he stopped supporting the team by not going in some sort of futile protest.
People are doing exactly the same now by not going but he doesn’t see the hypocrisy in that one.
More dignity needed for the man in the string vest please…
I know Stu. The reason he can’t see what is now plainly obvious to most fans, is that his tongue is so far up Ashley’s backside all he can see are his bumcheeks.
Meanwhile the majority of us who CAN see what is going on and don’t conform to the Ashley sheep realise S the choice between Shepherd’s style and Ashley’s style is no choice at all.
It’s like choosing between cancer of the lung or cancer of the liver. Either way, if you give it enough time you’re done for.
i think jose is annoyed we dont seem to have enough ambition didnt he say he was waiting to see how the money gets spent before he decides on his contract and well we havent spent the money like promised and sold our captain so it doesnt really look like were trying to make much progress. if we sell enrique are we really going to use all the say 10 12 million we get on a replacement or even on players i dont i think we’ll get a cheap replacement and lied to again
You’re right Japnufc.
There are a flock of silly sheep n here who will try to put the blame for everything this current mob do everywhere except the place it belongs.
They blame greedy players.
They blame greedy agents.
They blame Shepherd.
They blame Hall.
They blame Keegan.
They blame Hughton.
They blame Owen, Xisco etc.
They blame Carroll.
They blame Jose.
They blame the astroturf.
They even blame the fans, for gods sake.
When are they going to admit they might just be wrong?
How many years of the ‘five year plan’ to we have to bear before we see somthing that approaches credible planning?
How many more lies do we have to hear and how many more examples of poor planning and bad management do we have to suffer before they put the blame where it belong?
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