The cathedral on the hill.

The magnificent St James' Park.

I have two dogs. One’s called Titus Charles, the other is Shola. Stick with me. I am going somewhere with this!

Titus is a Japanese Terrier type thing, called a Shiba Inu, and can best be described as not playing with a full deck, or a sausage short of a BBQ. In a more modern parlance you might say a Swan Vesta short of a riot. Of course I must stress that we didn’t know of his intellectual deficiency when we named him. I just wanted to stress that in case Titus Bramble’s lawyer is reading this.

In our old house Titus would run up three flights of stairs, turn around at the top then come tearing down them like someone had rubbed Ralgex on his little ginger sphincter, and then SPLAT! He’d hit the wall at the bottom of the stairs at Warp Factor 5.

All of our floors were tiled so you could hear this little canine Riverdance unravelling. An event referred to in our house as “Clickety Clickety Thud!”

The thing that concerned us however was that he would do this five or six times in quick succession, and after each thud he would lie there dazed for a while, before getting to his feet and heading back up the stairs again.

He only stopped when he was either too tired, or too dazed to walk back up the stairs.

Wasn’t it Einstein who defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results?

It’s a bit like us with the transfer window. Here we are sitting waiting for the biggie. Waiting for today’s equivalent of another Alan Shearer or Michael Owen to be unveiled.

Remember how happy we were then? Isn’t it a shame we don’t mention them both in the same breath any more?

And guess what? Clickety Clickety Thud! Here we are again, surprised, not so much by hitting the wall at the bottom of the stairs, but more by the fact that it hurts.

No big spending. No big stars. Yet.

And we shouldn’t really be surprised, because while other managers are heading off to Harrods looking for talent with a bag full of crisp new fiftys, Ashley is sending Pardew shopping with an Argos card and a discount voucher.

I’m sure by now we all appreciate the requirement for this frugality. Not because it has been explained to us, but more because we’ve figured it out ourselves. Even maybe been through it ourselves.

As a youngster I had a mortgage, a Car Loan, a Bike Loan, Credit Cards, Store Cards, Bank Loan and an Overdraft. I was in debt up to the eyeballs, but jeez, was it fun. OK there was nothing in the bank at the end of the month, but back then that didn’t seem to matter .

Now that I’m a little older (it’s all relative) the mortgage and the car are paid off, any use of the credit cards and the overdraft is settled before the interest kicks in, and I seem to have a lot more money available. Yes, of course I’m older and earning a bit more, but not throwing money down the shitter every month in interest payments is the difference between just getting by and being comfortable.

And I’m sure it comes as no surprise to hear this didn’t happen overnight, but enough of the less than subtle lecture about money management, and how it will make us a better club.

There was a time, not so long ago when we expected, and even deserved, so much more during the transfer window. So why is it that we can no longer attract those considered “La crème de la crème”, and more often than not end up with from the “clotted cream” end of the dairy range?

Obviously there are a number of contributing factors at play here, not least of which has to be lack of “available” funds. I can already see the comments coming in about that one. By way of establishing a simple definition I’d say, if Ashley wants to spend it, then it’s “available”.

Could it be that we are not “big” enough? Well we already covered that in a previous article.

Another factor to be considered has to be the three stooges – Curly, Larry and Mo. That dynamic trio of Ashley, Llambias and Pardew. There was a time when great players were lining up to work under the likes of Robson, Dalglish and Keegan. Ok Kenny may not have produced the goods but he was still a legend. “Pardew Kinnear and Roeder” just doesn’t have the same ring.

I’m not having a dig at Pardew here, I actually think he’s doing a decent job within the constraints of his remit, but he’s certainly nowhere near being the draw that Keegan et al were, and his case is not being bolstered by those above him with what many of the fans perceive to be their “screw the fans” attitude.

If the personality and track record of your manager were going to be deciding factors then I would say Pardew possibly just has the edge over Roeder and Kinnear with only Wolves’ Mick McCarthy being a lesser “Motivator”. That leaves an awful lot of others above.

So what else hinders our progress? Lack of perceived ambition perhaps?

I say perceived because behind closed doors we may have a master plan comparable with that of Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein combined, but nobody knows about it because nobody is telling us.

I can’t help thinking that Hitler might have made a great Football Manager. With him it was all attack, attack, attack, and he was in Europe five years in a row, before finally being eliminated in the group phase in 1945.

Let’s not confuse ambition with success here. Hitler was ambitious, just not successful.

Maybe it’s the Language. A lot of foreigners (Spanish, French Welsh, etc) have enough trouble getting to grips with English, but having to then master Geordie on top is, let’s be honest, beyond a lot of footballers.

From my own point of view I would suspect that the biggest hurdle when it comes to attracting quality players has to be location.

St James Park – the Hallowed Turf – that Geordie Fortress, is almost in bloody Scotland!

Most foreigners (and a lot of Southerners too) think that Mel Gibson still carries out raids during weekends and bank holidays, and we surely have to be within range of his marauding, blue faced, kilt wearing, willy waving hordes.

And the local derbies? In London you get Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs. In Manchester at least you get United or City. How about Liverpool or Everton?

If you come and play for Newcastle you get to go to visit the Mackems or the Smoggies. Or on a bad year, both.

Difficult to figure out why they are not all tearing up the M1 as we speak.

If that’s not bad enough we are actually further away from London than Sunderland. I mean, while going past Sunderland has always seemed to me to be one of the better things to do with it, it has to be a bit of a bizarre concept if you are coming from the south. A bit like going “to Hell and beyond!”

There was a rather comical article published a couple of years ago that suggested that many of the WAGs actually limit their other halves’ options when it comes to transfers by telling them where they might, and definitely will not, consider moving to. In this modern world of equality, feminism and wimpy footballers I would never even dare suggest that there is anything wrong with that.

But be honest, if after a hard 90 minutes, for which you’ve just earned 50 thousand quid, you can’t pop into Nobu or Cecconi’s after a game and “be seen” with the other A-List stars, then what‘s point of it all?

This probably explains our enthusiasm for signing youngsters. Get them up here and acclimatised before they get a taste for the clubs and restaurants.

So if you can get past all that what about the weather?

The first three times I took my beloved (sorry , that’s the missus, to most of you) to Scotland it was snowing. But there again, it was probably my own fault for having the audacity to go in the middle of August.

The North East is generally considered to be a good few degrees cooler than the South West, making it less desirable to those southern continentals and SSSs .

I use the word “cooler” because it makes it sound like we are comparing the Maldives to the Canaries, when in actual fact Finland to Siberia would probably be more accurate.

As we’re talking the difference between breaking into a sweat and losing body parts to frostbite, maybe “colder” would have been a better word.

Taking all the above into consideration isn’t it a bloody miracle that we ever manage to persuade anyone to join us at all?

No, not really. We have, and can fill, a 50,000 seater stadium almost every other weekend with screaming fanatical Geordies who live and breathe the Black and White, so unless you are fortunate enough to be being chased by either Man U or Arsenal, nothing else compares.

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244 Comments

  1. 1

    Right. You’ve convinced me, Toonsy. I’ll sign.

  2. 2
    icedog says:

    aye me too :grin: :grin:

  3. 3
    Simon says:

    Toonsy, while we have the current owners think we don’t have much chance with anybody really. Yes Robson, Keegan and even Dalglish could attract players, even con them into coming like K did with Rob Lee, but Pardew can’t be that bad either, remeber he had Tevez at West Ham. But while we have Ashley and Co, think that will be the main problem for getting good new and in the words of Joey, Decent players in. These days, players don’t care that much about playing every week in front of big crowds and fans that love them, they come for the cash.

  4. 4
    jay jay says:

    Hmmm, toonsy has been telling porkies ;-)

  5. 5
    Paul in Hollywood says:

    I’m all in! Sod the south.

  6. 6
    craig chisholm says:

    funny article.. i think we have to maybe stop saying we fill our stadium cos we are loosing people all the time… yesterday was 46k+ for the prem opener against none other than arsenal! we are a long way away from capacity these days alas.

  7. 7
    robert naylor says:

    i agree with your description of ashley liambias .pardew as the three stooges from selling carroll then nolan ,enrigue the delay in signing replacements the tour of america just shows the imcompetence we are stuck with no left back and short of a good striker.giving shola another contract shows our aspirations.all we are left with is the prospect is bendtner surely after 6 monthe of scouting surely we can get someone better

  8. 8
    Archie Brand says:

    I think I might be tempted to debate the bit about Pardew “getting” Tevez.
    Story at the time was that his and Mascherano’s agents went through the premier league trying to find a buyer with a number rejecting because of contractual issues and this “ownership” issue.
    Think they might have gone through the leaglue alphabetically :lol:

  9. 9
    MA says:

    The only way we will ever sign a world class striker is to sign two. No world class striker is going to come to St. James’ in the knowledge that his striking partner will be Shola.
    What I really want to know , is what does he have on someone connected with the club throughout the last ten years? Only one manager has tried to get rid of him in that time and he was pushed/constructivelt dismissed.

  10. 10
    GeordieTwo says:

    Quiet day. De Gea looked bad on the West Brom goal. Slow start for the entire division. Enjoyed the articlebut Toonsy surely you had a pet chimp named Derek at one time or another? I would think a turnout under 47,000 for Arsenal would worry Ashley. God do we ever need a striker. It’s worse than desperate now. Is Ba going to work out? Just not sure.

  11. 11
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Craig

    I touched on the crowd issue last night and I still believe that if things don’t improve on the pitch within a couple of seasons we will be hovering around sub 40k.

    The one and only thing that makes us attractive and considered by some as a big club is our crowds.

    I appreciate the first game was in the summer holiday period but even so, to play Arsenal on the first day of the season and only get 43k home fans, is or should be a wake up call to the regime.

    It won’t make a hapeth bit of difference tho I’m sure. :???:

  12. 12
    Toonale says:

    Just got home from a walk in the local park, I met a young Nufc fan on his way home from the Beer Off, with his packs of ale,he had his Nufc top on,so we got talking about yesterdays game, like me he was happy with a point.
    Nice to see a Toon fan in Nottingham-shire. :smile:

  13. 13
    Troy Stavers says:

    I don’t believe for one second we will get a striker. Looking at the game yesterday we need 2!

    A quality striker is realistically going to cost IRO
    £10m+ and a big wage.

    Im lost as to why many still believe we will sign one. :???:

    It has already been established that the policy is one in, one out.
    The only way we will get a striker is if Best is sold. For me, he is our Best striker and he is still very raw.

    :???:

  14. 14
    Toby le Rhone says:

    As much as we hate manure its better for us that they win as WBA are in our mini league

  15. 15
    mark says:

    lol funny story about the dog, good article shame u asked a question already been discussed at length, I thought most of us were older than 14? so we understand Pards and Co and are already onboard ;-)

    big signings= cost too much – higher wages – they have ambition, so why would they come here..

    + the attendance is getting smaller

  16. 16

    Would MU let Berbatov go? Wasn’t he a fan of NUFC back in the day?

  17. 17
    Jobey07 says:

    Toonale – I live in Nottingham

  18. 18
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Available spending money is the problem for the crowd. Also factor it is in the middle of the busiest holiday months. Although not cheap at the Toon it is compared to other clubs. I believe the cheapest ticket at QPR is £46 and Levy was prepared to write to Tottenham fans asking them if they would be prepared to pay £70 a ticket to help swell their transfer coffers

  19. 19
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Buy any player for ten million and his agent will demand 80 grand plus a week. That blows our wage structure right oot the water

  20. 20
    Zoë Vicarage says:

    FSOTC: I was thinking that, he is a NUFC supporter. Man U would want a lot of money though

  21. 21
    Troy Stavers says:

    @fsotc

    They could give Berby away wrapped in a bow but we couldn’t afford the wages.

    I’m not attacking you, but do you consider that before you post?

  22. 22
    mark says:

    + a lot of ppl in the NorthEast have lost jobs in the last year, this + lack of ambition from our chiefs might have put people off.

    Remember under Shepherd we had a waiting list for season tickets, this has slowly dwindled whilst the population of the toon has increased.

  23. 23
    geoff777 says:

    Why are people going to pay their hard-earned cash to watch a team that is 35M light in talent?

    It’s like paying top dollar to see a West-End show and a local amateur dramatics group are on stage belting out “Mama Mia”.

    It’s time they treated their customers with respect.

    Who’s going to pay 35 quid to see Strolla wandering around not even trying?

  24. 24
    GeordieTwo says:

    Just keeping track of Ameobi stats again. 243 league appearances and 48 goals. Let me see, that is just over 4 goals per season. Thank god we signed him up for another 2 years. That should be another 8.5 goals or so and with the 4.5 goals he scores this season that is 13 in 3 more years. Throw a couple of our usual cup runs in and that should be 14 goals. Now I see how much ambition the owner has. Who is the cheapest striker left on the market? Probably Rodallega so we must definitely be in for him. Actually 22 goals in 89 appearances for Wigan is a step up from Shola but a no. 9? I don’t thinks so.

  25. 25
    Archie Brand says:

    Anybody got any idea what the financial impact is of 48 thousand instead of 53?

  26. 26

    No, I didn’t think of that, really Troy.

    I’m not attacking you, but, that’s kind of an asshole way to write. Do you consider that before you post?

    Mind, I’m not attacking you.

  27. 27
    Archie Brand says:

    Geordietwo – knowing our bloody luck he’ll score them all in the same game….

  28. 28
    TheDimpleboy says:

    @GeordieTwo Aye Shola’s not good enough, plain and simple…but hasn’t he scored 70 not 48?

  29. 29
    geoff777 says:

    @Archie 5000 x 35 = 175K

    Plus lost shop sales, less programmes, food & drink concessions looking to pay less rent next season.

    Less people seeing the Sports Direct signs all over the ground – How much do we get paid for them?

  30. 30
    B1GSTEVE says:

    So buying a CF for 10 mill will cost with wages and agents about 35 mill. Is 35 mill a good price for Englands centre forward ??. and can you buy him for 10 mill. ?

  31. 31
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Joey on 606

  32. 32
    geoff777 says:

    If Sammy scores we’re on the pitch …

    If Shola plays we’re going home.

  33. 33
    mark says:

    why didnt we show any interest in Long. He played well 2day and is always moving. perhaps 3mill too much..

  34. 34
    Archie Brand says:

    Troy – I’m one of the many who still think we will bring in a striker.

    Think you got that one wrong mate.

    It might not be a good one – but we’ll bring one in.

  35. 35
    Moreno says:

    aye Craig, a lot of empty seats yesterday :???:

  36. 36
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Saylor isn’t too bright according to Joey. Jokingly

  37. 37
    mark says:

    @Toby le Rhone

    well considering Taylor thinks a hand is an elbow, joeys probably right

  38. 38
    Moreno says:

    Archie….

    Based on an Average ticket price of about £40 (including a lot of home deliveries at a pound expense taken into account.

    £200,000

    If everyone was to buy a cheeseburger and drink at £7

    £35,000

    And for everyone who didn’t buy a cheeseburger…there was a program sold. Some blokes had 4 pints too.

    So in essence…..for 5000 less fans, it’s a fair whack

  39. 39
    mark says:

    joey Barton is on 5live 606

  40. 40
    Archie Brand says:

    I thought he was practising Nolans Chicken Celebration…..

  41. 41
    Lionel Speed says:

    Was at the game yesterday and there is a lot of potential there. There shouldn’t be any doom and gloom about this 35 million not being spent directly on transfers, gotta just move on, because the club basically has with some good buys and I am sure a couple more will still be added.

    Yep, we could do with another central defender as back up, but with a new left back and striker we can take our chances with this squad.

    I think Pardew is right, this team and squad could well develop nicely. Great midfield, with options, pretty decent defence and keeper, we only need one striker as we should play 4-5-1, and Best should be ahead of Ba et al.

    Long and short, we have a better squad than last year, with some of the younger lads almost ready to come through. Plus, a few exciting players in Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Obertan, a new striker and Barton!! :lol:
    I head home to China this week, wish I was going to be there for more matches as St.James’ this season, as I reckon this team is going to surprise a few. Exciting times.

  42. 42
    Big Dave says:

    Moreno were you in the ground for a while after the game joey B was on about something that came over the tanoy ??? do you know what it was

  43. 43
    craig chisholm says:

    if we are getting 46K against arse on curtain raiser then what we going to get against on cold winter night?? mid 30′s perhaps…. take note ashley. you might be able to control all things newcastle united and not give a toss about any of your staff or players or even geordie public but the one thing you do cherish is the greenback…its going to prove to be a two sided coin you will find fatty. if you wont push the boat out and want please the fans (when this is an entertainment industry).. you will find that no-one will go that extra distance for you, pull that bit of overtime, buy cheaper food at shops, pull belts in.. to buy a ticket. you will reap what you sow.

  44. 44
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Joey put his stance over well. 606 managed to find two lunatics who weren’t out looting.
    The arsenal fans yesterday must have had their voices stolen by the looters.
    What a miserable bunch

  45. 45
    ToonTom says:

    Anyone else just hear Barton on 5live?!

    He is fairly sensible and talks well but why is he ringing phone in shows!? NO other player from any other club would do that!
    Surely if he cant post on twitter about footy then he cant ring in 5live?!

  46. 46
    Lionel Speed says:

    Craig Chisholm,

    I reckon there is a lot of potential entertainment in this team. See names mentioned above plus a few youngsters. We are building like a decent football club for a change.

    It is not all about spending shed loads and getting straight in the Champions league. This team should be better and hungrier than any recent Newcastle teams, and we can build on next year and the year after. That is real football, we might not like whose doing it and how he’s got here, but this is potentially exciting team.

    It is time to fill that stadium and support what could be a good little side.

    Ps. From what we’ve got at the moment Best should definitely start.

  47. 47
    ToonTom says:

    Toby I agree he sounded very good and dealt well, esp with the angry one! But why was he one there? Keep your head down!
    The coverage has mostly been a joke! Read some of the rag red tops today, made it sound like Gervinho was a victim of evil Barton!

  48. 48
    Moreno says:

    Big Dave,

    The Smiths – This Charming Man

  49. 49
    Big Dave says:

    Toontom because Robbie savage asked him to come on and put his siade across after what all happened. and your wrong loads of other players have been on but dont let that get in the way of your rant :lol:

  50. 50
    funkyjesus says:

    Gervinho is a khunt

  51. 51
    Big Dave says:

    Moreno :lol: is that what it was :grin: . did you hear the 606 phone in

  52. 52
    ToonTom says:

    Big Dave. Are there lots of current, serious players-not Roberts or Savage-who have been in a lot of trouble going on?

    I dont listen all the time so I have no trouble being wrong, but cant imagine Fergy letting a player do that is my point. It just doesnt seem the most sensible thing to do.

    Cheers for letting me rant, appreciate it!

  53. 53
    Moreno says:

    Dave, nah unfortunately not, got half an eye on the Wok for the bairns tea, quarter of an eye on the bairns and a quarter on here! Multi tasking me tits off.

  54. 54
    batty says:

    that last bloke liverpool fan my arse ,joey i see you have lost your accent :lol:

  55. 55
  56. 56
    Big Dave says:

    Toontom Ferdy was on it last year :?: so maybe fergie didn’t know :grin:
    Batty are you still listening to the 606 mate :lol: its pure class and Sav is good on it even if it hurts to admit it :lol:

  57. 57
    shears then says:

    Shola = Waste.

  58. 58
    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Army: interesting article but if the rumour is true we need to find a foreign source

  59. 59
    TOONPIPES says:

    Reet .. back from holidays .. thought yd was fine .. wud take 1 point off the dirty gooners any day of the weeks/season/year … these lot could have easily have spanked us …. got away with raylor at lb who is gash + tiote was nacked from partying back home .. cabaye thought was all a bit too fast compared with lording it in the south of france and shola was shola as per usual .. ba will be fine needs a few more games and joseph was too smart for wengers high achievers … all in all sweet as start, if we take 3 points from the mackems we will be flying .. pleased to see bobbbys b**locks bus has had a puncture – if he was genuine wudnt mind his endless spiel .. expect some spurious non applicable comment in response.

  60. 60
    TOONPIPES says:

    BigDave .. think it funny that bartoon goes on the radio and vents . . fair play to him .. he takes a lot of stick and so far he has managed to stay in control when stickin up for himsel .. i’d say hes quite smart and likes a wind up .. sing up joey and let weh gan

  61. 61
    richietoon says:

    Surely the Bendtner article is a day or 2 old as it says “todays chronicle”…there is no chronicle today ;-)

    Zoe…Currywurst is a good foreign sauce ;-)

  62. 62

    Vindaloo’s another good foreign sauce. I like soy sauce too.

    I’ll shut up now.

  63. 63
    Zoë Vicarage says:

    very funny :lol:

  64. 64
    Stuart79 says:

    Cannot really blame people for not going. If money is tight for many people the last thing their going to do is spend £35 on a ticket, especially when they don’t see the club moving forward and investing like many think they should.

  65. 65
    Moreno says:

    Posted this on the last thread, after my ‘un-official’ nufcblog.co.uk match report.

    One of many funny things I saw out and about in the town, thought I’d share it…

    “Must say, I have given Pardew a clean slate as of yesterday. decided on the Metro whilst lstening to a couple of meatheads critisize him.”

    ——–> talking of these guys…they were all huge, one of them had both his ankles chained to a weight he was carrying and decked it right in the middle of Haymarket. Anyway….one of the lads (who sounded like he was from Shields) admitted to being a Man utd fan.

    The lads were like…”eh why the f*ck do you follow them”

    “Because me da was so he made uz follow them”

    Then one of the blokes says “So explain this to me…….how can you have been born, when your Da’s a f*cking Gay?”

  66. 66
    TOONPIPES says:

    Stuart – fair point to start .. but your last quip nearly a broken record inc .. aint it? .. we are investing after all

  67. 67
    Big Dave says:

    TP I think Joey done well and I do know he isn’t thick like most people think footballers are, he is a smart cookie ;-)
    Richie have you been at the sherbet dips again :lol:
    FSOTC I like fish sauce :lol:

  68. 68
    Big Dave says:

    Moreno :lol: :lol: I’m glad your giving Pards a chance mate as from what I can work out he has both hands tied behind his back, I loved the way he backed Joey on MOTD

  69. 69
    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Dave i think he is clever but sometimes has times when he acts stupidly

  70. 70
    Stuart79 says:

    TOONPIPES says:
    August 14, 2011 at 19:19
    Stuart – fair point to start .. but your last quip nearly a broken record inc .. aint it? .. we are investing after all

    Really? Last time I looked we were about £30m in the black on transfer dealings since January. Could just be me and my maths though. I stand corrected if you can put me right.

  71. 71
    Big Dave says:

    Zoe all men act stupidly at times :lol: its just in our genes :grin:

  72. 72
    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Dave: haha that’s true :lol:

  73. 73
    TOONPIPES says:

    Stuart, it is an argument which has been widely debated, isnt it worth moving on + supporting the team? ……. or rather give further ammunition for players to use as reason/shield for leaving?

  74. 74
    GeordieTwo says:

    Dimpleboy @ 28 no Shola has 48 in the league, it’s somewhere around 70 in all competitions. I am now hearing we have had another large expenditure. Pardew has gone out and bought an entire year’s supply of monkey chow for Derek. Subtract that from the striker budget. Pardew loves to see a happy, healthy Derek after he’s been groomed.

  75. 75
    Troy Stavers says:

    @fsotc

    I had to put that remark in as I get accused of attacking people all the time and the reason I killed off bobby shinton. I ask a question or disagree with people and they take it personally.

    @toonpipes

    Stu makes a good point which needs making no matter how many times and you just ask him to move on.

    You can’t keep ignoring important issues and just talk about the nice things. :???:

  76. 76
    Moreno says:

    Troy, you off the Tak and cowies? :cry:

  77. 77
    Tommy Gibb says:

    Toonsy we never had a Noobu but we did get a Nobby (complete with trumpet)

  78. 78
    TOONPIPES says:

    Gotcha troy/bobbs! .. hows it gan wee man .. good holiday :)

  79. 79
    TheDimpleboy says:

    Right lads I’m starting the official “Let’s be as positive as possible, but at the same time criticise Ashley and his apologists for all his shortcomings, while still supporting the players 100% but when people start to celebrate about unproven signings too much then they must be put right, as should all those that blame Shola for everything including immigration and global warming” Train :lol: Anyone wanna join?

    Terms and Conditions:

    1. Anyone that abuses and boos their own players during a match is refused entry.
    2. Anyone that thinks Ashley is “A decent lad this was misunderstood…” will be handed over to the local authorities.
    3. Applicants will be given priority if they make an effort to improve the atmosphere during the game.

  80. 80
    GeordieTwo says:

    Just read a great quote about Andy Carroll: “sprinkling 35M pounds on a turd does not make it any better for you.” :lol:

  81. 81
    TOONPIPES says:

    Aye but Troy, surely the idea is that we support the team and get behind them no matter what – right? … otherwise we are exercising a democratic right not to support – which is wrong – cos we support the team no matter what – its not a matter of choice, its wor team ………….. otherwise, would make us just like a player? ……. or wud you rather just continue to berate the whole operation

  82. 82
    GeordieTwo says:

    Would we have the turd back for about 5M pounds? I say yes damnit let’s take the chance! :mrgreen:

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    TOONPIPES says:

    Gan on dimpleboy yee radicalist … you’ve got more political dispositions that the English government

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    Geordie Deb says:

    Off topic just been reading one of the Bindippa forums and quite a bit of disquiet from them on what they bought for £35m – if it was £10-15m it would have been more realistic. Not too happy at lack of Judas’s lack of pace, the team changing their style of play to hoofball yada yada etc.Some even questioning the wisdom of King Kenny’s purchases over the summer – they wos robbed, which makes a change from the scousers robbing everyone else. Well let him weave his ‘magic’ like he did on us when he dismantled the great KK’s entertainers.

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    TOONPIPES says:

    Geordie Deb .. and they’d be right .. cazza mugged himself and the bindippers going there .. he wud have been better off stoppin with us … hes not really a typical liverpoop player my opinion ..

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    Big Dave says:

    Geordie Deb that was music to my ears :lol: . I have heard a few of their fans question if what Carroll brings to the team is what they want and the over-riding opinion was NO :grin:

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    Brother Troy, just be sensible, man.

    You wrote:
    “They could give Berby away wrapped in a bow but we couldn’t afford the wages.
    I’m not attacking you, but do you consider that before you post?”

    Nothing wrong with the first part. Leave off the insulting, assholey question and you’ve got a perfectly fine conversational post. Tag on the question, even with the “I’m not attacking you” disclaimer and you’ve got provocation.

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    Moreno says:

    Jesus H. Christ….

    Is that an insult :shock:

    FSOTC, no offence mate (and of course I mean one or I wouldn’t have said ‘no offence’) – Grow a set of balls man!

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    TOONPIPES says:

    @ Fans should own the club … what you will find is that brother troy (aka bobby shinton) is not really interested in sensible discussion .. rather wind up …

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    My vagina hurts from Troy’s hurtful words!

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    TOONPIPES says:

    Moreno .. last i read you had yor eyes on stir fry / kids / computer .. things a little less hectic now? …. tek from your pic you fan of shola? wud be very amusing to see shola and sammy on same time – and score!

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    Moreno says:

    Toonpipes…

    Sorry mate, tha’s where you are wrong.

    Bobby/Troy enjoys the banter and debate more than the vast majority on here.

    Fact is, there is a line which sometimes during a debate he has been known to cross (veering off topic completely with paragraphs of psycho-analysis on the other blogger :roll: :lol: )

    But comments like that have an opinion on football matters is a different ball game and I don’t like seeing a ‘witch-hunt’ where he gets shot down in flames for every little thing.

    Surely you can take a bit of banter coming your way in amongst all the debate?

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    Moreno says:

    Toonpipes.

    Was loving King Shola Day. Big fan of Shola as an entity, not really as a footballer (most of the time :lol: )

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    Ah well my:

    Right lads I’m starting the official “Let’s be as positive as possible, but at the same time criticise Ashley and his apologists for all his shortcomings, while still supporting the players 100% but when people start to celebrate about unproven signings too much then they must be put right, as should all those that blame Shola for everything including immigration and global warming” Train Anyone wanna join?

    Terms and Conditions:

    1. Anyone that abuses and boos their own players during a match is refused entry.
    2. Anyone that thinks Ashley is “A decent lad this was misunderstood…” will be handed over to the local authorities.
    3. Applicants will be given priority if they make an effort to improve the atmosphere during the game.

    Now has two members :mrgreen:

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    TOONPIPES says:

    Moreno, didnt you shoot old Fans Should Own the club down in flames? …… Do agree with you about Shola – i do get on his case a bit, but try not to shout out loud, but he is an institution – and he usually gets a goal against the mackems so we need him on good form for next weekend cooooome on

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    Moreno says:

    Yeah Toonpipes….

    Re: FSOTC – yeah maybe I did, just seemed a bit like grassing someone up to the teacher at school tbh :roll:

    I saw on twitter Sammi Ameobi dropped his keys down the drain….sent him a message telling him that being daft as a brush must run in the family!

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    Big Dave says:

    Moreno You make a good point Re Bobby he isn’t ( wasn’t) the worst in the world and I for one enjoyed his banter, I know he crossed the line once or twice but I still thought he added to it,. The problem I think Bobby had was that when someone fell for his tricks they seemed to go all out to get him back, instead of just thinking ah fuk he got me so lets move on.
    I had only bother once when he was changing peoples names around and I told him on here that I didn’t like it and from that day we have got on fine.
    I think people take him to serious but sure he is not with us anymore, and I for one miss his craic :lol:

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    TOONPIPES says:

    Sammi and Shola dropping keys and miss-kicking shots off the shin into the crowd .. only at the toon

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    Big Dave says:

    Dimpleboy I will have to consider it more ;-)

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    TOONPIPES says:

    Dave, he cant be gone forever .. was hoping to draw him out with me comments but he hasnt popped up to say hellloo yet! …

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    Big Dave you can have a free NUFC medal I got with my season ticket :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    Bobby was sound, but that Troy’s a reet c@nt :lol:

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    TOONPIPES says:

    haway bobbsy troy get yee little bus fired up

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    Big Dave says:

    TP I think the biggest problem with Wor Bobby was that he caught to many bloggers :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    Ref crowds they’ve been down for a few years, I believe yesterday’s was higher than the first home game on our return to the Prem last year. Wasn’t the first home game on Keegan’s return just 40 odd k as well? and that was before any of the “botha” with Ashley started. We had the 3rd highest average last year and we’ll have 3rd or 4th this year imo. Don’t we have enough to moan about without starting on something new?

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    Big Dave says:

    Richie I agree Troy is a c@nt but he is not a bad c@nt :grin:

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    richietoon says:

    Dave…..aye Dave, he’s a canny c@nt ;-)

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    Moreno says:

    Aye Richie, was at that Stoke game to welcome him, was a few empty seats then. FA Cup third round replay if I remember rightly. I ran to St. James’s when I heard, was running alongside the metro quicker than Obertan.

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    To be fair it was an FA cup game, and if it wasn’t for Keegan it would have been just over 20000…

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    Moreno says:

    “Goal of the match: Larsson’s acrobatic volley left Reina flapping at thin air. He was given far too much space at the back post to set himself and take flight.”

    Who’s their left back again and where was he when all this was going on? :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    Moreno….aye it was and also the 1st home game the following season was 47k and that was just after drawing with Manure away.

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    Moreno says:

    Richie….

    So what you’re saying is that some people need to calm down a little bit with their conspiracy theories? :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    Moreno……lol..no just think if people wanted to complain about droppong crowds they should have done it 3 or 4 years ago when they dropped, not now when they’ve pretty much remained the same since then despite the hard times biting deeper and that fat c@nt still being at the club. Only Man Utd, Le Arse and possibly Citeh will average higher than us and that ain’t bad for a smallish city who never win feck all ;-) ……………….now the £35m that’s a different matter :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    *dropping* :oops:

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    Moreno says:

    Rich, you know what I hate more than dropping crowds? Droppong crowds. :lol:

    We just need enough in there to create the 12th man that pulled us back with Arsenal last season.

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    richietoon says:

    Moreno…now droppong crowds, that is summat to complain about :lol:

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    toonsy says:

    I shall get all statto tomorrow and see if all grounds were sold out etc. Was disappointed with 46k, but we are in a recession at the end of the day. Its not the complete reason of course as some will be staying away in protest. Not 5,000 of them though.

    Wonder how much of it was to do with the way the new seating plan has worked out?

    On the subject of this article, its Archie Brands’ one. I just forgot to tag it up as his :oops:

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    It doesn’t make a difference whether we have 40k or 50k, the atmosphere would be the same. What would make a difference is a standing/singing section close to the pitch. But I’ll stop before I start ranting ;-)

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    richietoon says:

    Teddy Sheringham was the pundit on the arab channel that I watched the match on yesterday, they were all speaking Arabic he was answering in English but they had a translator talking Arabic over him, a tad bizarre…..hopefully that bar will have the Mackem game on as I saw setanta in the states(I think) advertising it earlier :grin:

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    Moreno says:

    Rich, you not watching Real contra Barca ?

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @Big Dave

    It was Toonsy who ultimately thought that Bobby wound too many people up.

    I just think people don’t like criticism and take everything personal.

    @Toonpipes

    Bobbys opinions were always genuine. I’m sure within a few weeks Troy will be persecuted by the sensitive souls on here as well.

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    richietoon says:

    Dimpleboy…..true and what would really make a huge difference is if the 40k who complain about there being no atmosphere actually opened their gobs and sang ;-) :lol:

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    @Troy

    When your reincarnated for a third time while you turn into a mad hooligan and offer out Toonpipes :smile:

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    richietoon says:

    Moreno…aye, best team in Spain are 1 nowt up ;-)

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    @Richie Aye I did yesterday :smile:

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    richietoon says:

    correction …were 1 up :cry:

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    richietoon says:

    Dimlpleboy….good lad :grin:

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    toonsy says:

    Troy will be just fine if he logs into bobby’s e-mail and sticks to what his good friend said ;)

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @Moreno

    Thankyou and you some it up perfectly.

    Half the trouble comes from those who miss the original points made in the thread by myself and join in when people start accusing me of being negative. I believe it’s realism.
    But those who come in late only see the later exchanges. Not naming anyone toonpipes. ;-)

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    Moreno says:

    Some goal that Rich….I’d pick him ower Shola :lol:

    Dimpleboy – aye it was a bloody shame like….on the plus/negative side, a lot of the singing nutters are spread out around the ground now :shock: :lol:

    Remember one lad in the corner got told to sit down by the stewards and he just went “Before ya start am telling ya now, there’s f*cking nee chance of that happening” :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    feck :cry:

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    richietoon says:

    Moreno….aye it was a cracka…would prefer Shola v the mackems tho :lol:

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    :smile: That lad is a legend :lol:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    so our opening game attendance was only 47k and certain people are predicting it is on the slide and will be sub 40k in a few years.

    Well last seasons opener against villa had a crowd of only 43k, so go figure?

    Perhaps some people can only ever manage to put a negative spin on things regardless of their nic name.

    Choo Choo. all aboard zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    witters says:

    I’ll give it two threads…. :lol:

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    TheDimpleboy says:

    Woah hold your horses BB…This town aint big enough for three trains :lol:

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    richietoon says:

    get in 2-2 :grin:

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    Big Dave says:

    Troy @ 121 I think Bobby was misunderstood :lol: :lol: he could be a right negative c@nt but a decent one at the sametime haha

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    Stuart79 says:

    August games do clash with a few things like hoildays and summer sport participation. Although I dont think we should underestimate the strength of feeling about the percieved lack of investment in the team. I honestly believe a fair few will be so underwhelmed they just though ‘why bother’.

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @BB

    What’s up this negative spin mallarkey?

    Is it not something that is relevant due to the continuing mediocrity that Ashley is providing.

    It’s inevitable that crowds will continue to drop slowly. The regime had to provide a 10 year scheme to ensure the crowds remained above 40k this season that’s for sure.

    It’s not being negative but trying to make people aware of the situation before it’s too late.
    I’ve been saying it for years now, when we were sold out in the allardyce era. People scoffed then but here we are 4 years on and we are averaging 44k.

    You compare villa to arsenal ? Arsenal should always sell out.

    Don’t keep shying away from difficult issues, they must be faced and tackled. :???:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    Why do so many people believe that , by criticising the club for certain issues, it’s deemed not supporting the club?

    Its entirely the opposite in my opinion. It’s about putting the wrongs right in order to move the club forward.
    By ignoring the issues and just looking for the positives, you are actually making matters worse.

    Do you think we go to the match and talk about financials etc. We might before the game in the bar but when at the game
    We cheer and support like everyone else.

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    Stuart79 says:

    Here, here Troy! :shock:

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    Army69 says:

    alreet lads and lasses , just got back from training im fecked!!

    looking 4wad to seein who pardue goes for this week!! hopefully pieters and a fast forward with an eye 4 goal lol

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Army do you play footy yourself? Maybe Pardew should sign you up if you do!! :lol:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Evening Troy :lol:

    I do hear you, but think its not so simple is all. There are other factors to consider for decreasing crowds, such as the global recession, holidays etc.
    Average attendances are down everywhere, compared to the peak its not just down to the current regime.

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    Big Dave says:

    Army I see your back to Pardue again :lol: ;-)

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    Army69 says:

    haha !! no i Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu zoe , hard work :lol:

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    Army69 says:

    lol @ dave

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    Big Dave says:

    Big Dave says:
    August 14, 2011 at 14:16
    Army @ 56 > pieters and a fast striker please mr pardew ??
    Fuk you’ve changed your tune all this week he has been clueless Pardue

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Army69 says:

    i know lol i feel a bit better after a point against arsenal :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Ah that’s pretty cool, it must be. I used to do jiu-jitsu a few years ago but gave up. Now play footy myself :grin:

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    Big Dave says:

    Zoe Richie told me that Army is a top notch left back
    in the changing room :lol:

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    Army69 says:

    did you get loads of injurys?? aye i used to play footy but played like perch so packed it in lol!!! (i wasnt that bad) :lol:

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    Army69 says:

    :lol: :lol: :lol: shattttttttt appppp dave

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    Army69 says:

    off topic , any1 seen the new film wrecked?? good film , get it downloaded!! me n my lass watched it and we really enjoyed it!!

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    I fell down the stairs when I was younger and there was one move where you had to throw yourself over like a somersault and I didn’t want to do that.

    Haha, I’m what’s called a utility player and I’m not a big fan of it either. So hoping to stick to one position this year

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    Army69 says:

    bluddy man utds 2nd hand goal today was sooooooooo flooooky!! typical man utd

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    Big Dave says:

    reet Lads and Lasses thats me outta here catch you’s tomorrow sometime ;-)

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    Army69 says:

    lol you fell down the stairs?? thats canny bad luck like :shock:

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    Army69 says:

    in a bit dave lad , we signed any1 yet ? :roll: :grin:

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Yeah when I was in year 5, landed on laminate flooring too

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    Army69 says:

    its the first time in prem history so far that no1 has won at home !!! canny mad

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    No I wasn’t comparing Aston Vile to Arsenal, just opening home fixture attendances.
    Our lowest crowd last season was 41k against B’Burn incidentally, which was a wednesday evening in november.
    Its a difficult thing to work out until the end of the season I guess, so I’ll have a look then and get back to you :lol:

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    Army69 says:

    haha bet that was a canny thump zoe!! :???:

    haway then zoe – if you had to bet the 2 players pardue will have in by sunderland , who would it be and how much for each player??

    im gna take a wild and guess and say

    pieters 7m
    bendtner 7m

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Yeah it’s been a weird start to the prem so far with none of the home teams winning. I expect Man City will be trying to bag a home win tomorrow

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    Army69 says:

    i must be mad thinking we are gna splash 14 million :lol:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    I think that will change tomorrow Army. Manc ali baba city at home to swansea. poor buggers

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    It was Army, hurt quite a bit but got to eat cold food such as ice cream so was a bonus cos I hurt the inside of my gums.

    I reckon Pardew will bring in

    Pieters 8 m

    Bendtner 9m

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    Army69 says:

    aye i know beardsley :lol:

    cant see swansea beating citeh but it would be good if they did!!!

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    I agree with Booby, I mean Troy, dont think we will get in a striker ’til we lose 1 or 2. ie Ranger, who I hear Pardew isn’t too happy with again.

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    Army69 says:

    do you think we will spend 9 on bendtner?? i like him but dont think hes as gud as he think he is !! hope we dont get rodallega!! :???:

    pardue did say he is gna spend a bulk of the money on the next 2 players

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    I think Arsenal will be looking for more money, come to this conclusion with the saga of Fabregas. They want more money than a club has offered, so I think it will take a bit for them to accept. He’s not worth that amount of money but Wenger has been very stubborn over the money for his players.

    Yeah I don’t rate rodallega, would prefer bendtner even though his attitude may have to change a bit.

    I also think that we may be going for a striker who we’ve not been linked with, might come out of the blue and surprise us all

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Glad the season has finally kicked off.
    Reckon it will be a tight one again much like last year. Top 3/4 pulling away, and not much between 5 and 20 up to xmas.

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    Army69 says:

    aye your probz right!! like the marveaux signing?? who heard of that coming?? ijust hope we sign a striker thats gna be pacey and alot of flare!! im tired now of watching shola!!

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    When does the 25 man squad get finalised?

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Yeah I didn’t know anything about Marveaux until he came to us. I hadn’t even heard of him making his way to liverpool for a medical and stuff.

    The problem with Shola is that at points he doesn’t put enough effort in and decides to fall down when we are in decent positions. Although he does score for us I think he needs to work a lot harder for us. I thought Best was a lot better than him when he came on

  177. 177
    Army69 says:

    aye best is a better player but i still dont think hes good enough 4 the toon!! ba looked tired aswel!! the 2 i was well pleased with was obertan and cabaye!! obertans pace is frightening and hes got a nice touch and cabaye you can tell he puts 100% effort in every game!! hope benny recovers quickly and marveaux gets up 2 match fit then i think our team will be strong!!

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    ah right its 1st sept. to include 8 home grown players

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Yeah, I think more fitness drills are in order for the team some of them didn’t look up to speed. Cabaye got better as the game went on but against arsenal he wasn’t really able to show us what he can do. Obertan will do very well for us, we’ve been lacking pace a bit in the squad and he will add a lot to our team. I think tiote needs extra training, he looked way off the pace and I’m sure that Gosling is pushing to partner Cabaye.

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    Army69 says:

    did bendtner really laugh off stoke when he heard they were interested in him?

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    Newkie says:

    As this is my first time back on since the match and for a fair while before it, just thought I’d say my piece and i thought that Raylor did very well at left back. Considering he’s not even a bloody right back he did decently, overrall we probably got a fair result, if we’d had some more signings perhaps we could have pushed it, but at the same time they lacked Nasri and Fabregas so perhaps we can consider ourselves fortunate..

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    £11m for bendtner eh?
    so we have upped our bid to £7M ffs, do we have to be so penny pinching tight all the time?
    No doubt if they accept we will only offer the fella £20K/wk aswell :evil:

    Just cant see us going for Bendtner.
    should have gone for Shane Long. Infact we should have made a sensible offer to Gameiro in the first place. :evil:

  184. 184
    Army69 says:

    if arsenal want 11m for bendtner then there is no wayyyyyyyyyyyy we will pay that 4 a player!!

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Hello Newkie, he did have a few dodgy moments tho, but we got thru in the end. Which is all that matters now. :lol:
    Wasn’t the best of games tho was it? esp the first 45.

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    I don’t think Long was ever on our radar tbh, I think we are in for someone who we haven’t been linked with and will surprise us all. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

    Army obviously Stoke is way too small for Bendtner’s ego :grin:

    Did anyone see Pardew’s interview with Rebecca lowe on ESPN, he said the money is there for the right player. That sounded very interesting to me, they are looking at targets and it kinda meant that if they find the right striker then they will spend on him.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    plus he will want bigger wages than we will offer.
    Plus I dont think he will buy into pardews vision for taking us forwards.
    Do you?

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Zoe, dont forget tho, they are getting good at the pr bs.
    What they say and what they do are often complete opposites.

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    Newkie says:

    Beardsley-he had a couple, but I thought he came through well, considering he was against the pace of Gerviniho etc I had nightmares of him getting skinned all day, but he put his foot in when neccessary and got the job done like. Colo was a masterclass though and even Staylor did great, until he tried to run it out of defence and got caught by two arsenal players…standard game for him I suppose :lol:

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    Yeah, they have a sneaky way of saying one thing which means something different.

    Just hope we make moves to bring a striker in and hopefully Pieters deal can be done after his bereavement in his family

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    aye newkie, plus Jonas seemed to stay deep to support him a wee bit, which was good in a way.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Will be happy when we get the new lad in, but worried that we end up insulting him and it all falls thru.

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    Newkie says:

    Aye Beardsley-he definitely needed it, he’s probably better on the left than on the right because Barton simply can’t help out as much as Jonas can. Just as well he didn’t need to cope with Nasri or something because Gervy didn’t really impress me that much, just seemed like a quick Shola or something.

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    Army69 says:

    weyyy im off to bed everyone , hope yous are all ok , speak to yous 2mora and hopefully we are close to a signing or 3 :grin: night night

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    Zoë Vicarage says:

    I’m off to now, catch you guys later :grin: night

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    BrisVegas says:

    Aye, I miss those mythic days when we bought the best in the world – Eusebio, Pele, Di Stefano, Maradonna. Wish we could attract those guys again. :roll:

    As for Troy/Bobby … as long as we have a proper person giving a point of view I’m ok with anything he says. I’m just not that interested in the ravings of a made up character, although the opportunity to analyse the hysteria of a fan group was lovely. O well, just have to wait for Moreno to write something about his dreams now I suppose. ;-)

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    Shamrock says:

    That was pretty much what Paul Merson said on Sky Sports the other day. We are not in the same league as Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd etc but we are the next tier down purely because of the weekly £50k plus week in week out. He said if he were still playing and those top of the pile clubs werent coming knocking, he would sign for Newcastle in a flash.

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    Shamrock says:

    Incidentally, I read Jamie Redknapp’s predictions for the coming season. Basically he see’s Newcastle as a total laughing stock, thinks we should have spent way more than we have and says we will do well to finish 1 place above the relegation places. Now I know I look at our mighty club through rose tinted glasses, but this guy is mental. No wonder he has not gone into management because he is obviously clueless. I’d be shocked if we fail to match last season’s achievements in the very least. Not expecting Europe at all, but reckon with a good season we could be looking at top 8 or 9.

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    CT says:

    As you guys know I was corporating yesterday, no prawn sarnies just lobster, disgrace.
    Anyway, in the inner sanctum,
    Erik Pieters dun deal,
    Erdink nearly there, left out of PSG squad,
    Joey signing 3x year deal.
    Could be worse, no?

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    Shamrock says:

    CT if that is true then good news. Personally would much rather see Barton go and be replaced, however he offers a bit of Britsh bite….

  201. 201
    CT says:

    Sham mate, I agree but couple of lil probs with your post,
    Merson was referring to 50k supporters, not £50k wages every wk.
    I think Jamies dad `Arry is the manager. but like you I`m still hopeful top ten finish.

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    Shamrock says:

    Haha that’s what I meant. Bit of a massive mistake really! That Redknapp article really did p*ss me off. I know this is a hyped up club but no need for that.

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    CT, you serious, brother, or just horsing around? Can’t imagine that’s all true but would be pretty tickled.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Yes, expect to hear Pardew coming out and saying he told “Mike” in no uncertain terms, that either Barton gets a contract or he walks,lol. And big mick decided to back his manager blah blah bullcrap etc. And we’ll all suck it up and luv Pardew all the more yeah. mmmmmmm :!:

    So are we all going to be happy with our new striker Erdinc, who would rather warm the bench at PSG than come here ? I guess money does talk in the end :???:
    Defies all logic giving shola a new contract tho. Got me a feeling its something to do with keeping the local lad at the club so as not to cause further unrest among the natives after the judas debacle. If so, it just goes to show how clueless and out of touch the board really is. :evil:

    I’ll be very happy with the Pieters deal IF it goes thru :?: £7M seems like a fair price for an intl defender. Just hope he settles in quickly, unlike Judas 2 who took 2yrs. I think having Tim Krul as a team mate will go a long way to helping sort that.

    Bring on the mighty unwashed on sat. Cant wait.
    HOWAY THE LADS.

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @brisvegas

    When was Bobby a made up character? It’s me with a pseudonym? I’m sure you aren’t called Brisvegas like I’m not really Bobby Shinton, though I sometimes wonder what goes thro people’s minds.
    All the posts Bobby did were actually my views. Sorry for confusing the life out of you. I didn’t think it was a hard concept to grasp. :roll:

    As for the original Troy. It was a piss take character based on the charvers of the west end I’ve met over the years.

    Just like Andy Carroll, bobby was forced (technically) to leave the blog. I was facing a permanent ban unless I stopped, so called undermining people. I disagree that I was doing it and many others have expressed that as well, but I now have to change my direct approach or face a ban. :???:

    Hence Troy is off the drugs now and trying not to upset people but I still seem to yet do it by disagreeing only with someone’s viewpoint .

    Maybe people should look at themselves before trying to get me banned. :???:

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    M says:

    seems Erdinc is injured – that’s why he didnt play this weekend. And there’s nothing new linking him with us on the French sites at the mo.
    Mark Douglas from the Journal speculated on his tw@tter feed that the striker we eventually sign ‘could still be our mate Mevlut’

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    Troy Stavers says:

    If it’s a one out and one in policy which seems evident, who is next out the door.?

    I still don’t believe we will pay the required higher wages for a worthwhile striker. There is nothing to suggest we will so why believe it?

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    its gotta be Ranger.
    Apparently he has pissed off Pardew again with his lack of proffesionalism, time keeping etc :evil:

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    BrisVegas says:

    Troy @ 205 Whatever you say, mate, whatever you say. :roll:

    Look forward to reading your comments.

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    Archie Brand says:

    Troy, don’t think we’re playing that one in, one out game unless its for the big salaries – so maybe it would be Smith, Barton or Colo.

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @brisvegas

    Out of interest, were you happy with the sheer lack of creativity from the midifield and sheer lack of fire power up front, or are you just focusing on the positive that we got a point at home to a very poor Arsenal side. ?

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @Archie

    To bring a good striker in we need to spend big cash. Ashley won’t spend unless he gets a player sold for decent money.

    Smith is on too high a wage and therefore will sit out his final year of his contract, Barton is up for a free and that leaves Colo. There would be hell on if they sold him now.

    I just don’t see a striker of any worth coming here. We do not pay good enough wages which decent strikers command.

    Pards know that as well IMO and it’s all hot air from the regime to fool the fans. History tells us that so why believe different?

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    BrisVegas says:

    Troy @ 211 Way to go with the loaded questions, eh. But I’ll answer what I think you should have asked if you were really interested in my opinion.

    The midfield wasn’t creative but it did a grand job of defending. The attack wasn’t very potent, but that too contributed to a good defensive display.

    Arsenal may not have been good but there’s an old saying that you are only play as well as the opposition lets you. That fact is that Newcastle defended well and Arsenal couldn’t break us down.

    I wouldn’t be happy to see that sort of display every week but on the day we got the basic result our tactics were designed to get. Hopefully next week, there’ll be different tactics to suit a different circumstance and we’ll get a better result.

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @brisvegas

    I would not have asked the question if I wasnt interested.

    That’s a fair assessment however I can’t help being concerned that we showed not one bit of creativity and not one save for the keeper to make in 90 mins.

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    Archie Brand says:

    @Troy – I would think they have already committed to a striker and a left back and put the funds aside for that from the legendary 35 million, plus Enriques fee.

    If Colo goes we are then looking for a centre back aswell. That would be one in one out.

    Dont know why you think they would even want to try to fool us?
    They are perfectly happy just ignoring us.

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    Troy Stavers says:

    Did anyone notice the NEWCASTLE UNITED sign on the East stand.
    They’ve obviously started taking it down then changed their minds and hurriedly put it back up before the kick off.
    It hasn’t been picked up but it was wrote;
    NEWCASTLE UNTIED.
    :oops:

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    richietoon says:

    “Ashley won’t spend” :shock: I don’t think you realise how expensive all those SportsDirect signs are fella ;-)

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    Archie Brand says:

    @Troy, have to say that a point against any of the big teams, regardless of which team they put out is a result, but that doesnt mean we are, or have to be, happy with the perfomance.
    Have to think that having Gosling, the return of Ben Arfa, and Cabaye settling in might make the midfield a bit more creative

  219. 219
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Archie

    You might find this difficult to believe but there are many fans who will fall for the rhetoric spouted by the regime. :???:

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    BrisVegas says:

    Troy: If we played like that home to Blackburn I’d be very worried.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    To be honest tho this was potentially a really tough game for us, and after the shambolic pre season debacle, a draw was a fair result.
    We all know it is going to take a while for the team to gel.
    The fact enrique left the day before is typical of this regimes total lack of football nouse. We just seem to roll from one disaster to the next without a hint of a plan or care in the world.
    Really infuriating.

  222. 222
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Archie

    People are pinning high hopes on Gosling. He was a bit part player at Everton though considered to have potential. I’m not holding my breath though some would love me to. :lol:

    Cabaye looked well off the pace for me but I accept it will take him a while to settle.

    HBA did have a cracking debut for us and comes with a good reputation but he has suffered a major lay off and it could take a lot longer for him to live up to his expectations.

    I accept this was the first game and against superior opposition no matter if they have a weakened squad at the moment, but my worries before the game was our lack of fire power and that was glaringly evident during the game.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    agree Bris, but I think we will improve from here on. We can hardly play any worse, surely :???:

  224. 224
    Troy Stavers says:

    @BB

    Is that you being a doom mongerer? :lol:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    Just to make everyone aware I will be driving the reality train due to Bobbys recent death.

    I’ts leaving the central station at midday today and heading out to search for a striker.

    Timetable;

    Crewe 2pm
    Halifax 4pm
    Doncaster 6pm
    Chesterfield 8pm

    Tomorrow;
    Darlington 10am
    Whitby 12pm
    Hull 2pm
    Ipswich 4pm
    Peterborough 6pm
    Southend 8pm

    Wednesday timetable to be arranged; :roll:

  227. 227
    bowburnmag says:

    T – disappointed you didn’t spend more time expanding on how great we are. There are lots of reasons why we’re great.

    As wrong as it is, fanatacism comes a distant runner-up to ambition and money. Which is why we don’t have people tripping over themselves to come here.

    One thing I’m slightly disappointed in, is acceptance of some fans that the tactics and approach were right. The fact that a weakened Arsenal side couldn’t break us down is one thing. But why could we not try to take the game to them, considering we were at home, with first game impetus behind us. I don’t think anyone would have been critical if we’d gone for the jugular from the off.

    I don’t think Pardew got it right with his substitutions but at least he tried to go for it. I just think we could have done that earlier.

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    Archie Brand says:

    @Troy – seriously? People believe that shit?
    Agree Cabaye looked very mediocre but Pardew swears by him, and I have to think that he wouldn’t be coming out and gushing so much unless he’d seen something.
    I remember everybody saying what a coup it was when we got Gosling.
    That was about the time that we appeared to be using PhysioRoom.Com as a recruitment agency.
    I like to try to stay positive about all this but there are times when you run out of alcohol and the drugs wear off………

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    BrisVegas says:

    O dear, Troy @ 226, o dear. And for a moment there I thought you’d changed.

  230. 230
    witters says:

    I’ve changed my mind…I’ll give it one thread :lol:

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    AndrewT says:

    Referring to gosling, he was a bit part player at Everton because he was only 19 years old at the time!
    The lad has had time to mature some more. I was really frustrates that he didn’t come on for tiote

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    richietoon says:

    BBM……Don’t think it’s Toonsy’s article, archie’s I think ;-)

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    toonsy says:

    Aye, tis Archie’s :)

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Cant believe ya choo choo isn’t headed straight for Paris to be honest.
    Or is that where it terminates lol after its driver is arrested for exposing his buttocks in the front window of the paris branch of Fenwicks. :mrgreen:

  235. 235
    Archie Brand says:

    @BowburnMag – we played the first half with the Ameobi Twins up front.
    Between them they appeared to have the mobility and imagination of a rather large caravan.
    When Obertan came on we got upfield on the right. Something Jonas didnt manage on the left.
    But we were still left with nothing of any use in the middle.
    We were pretty poor last year and Best, Ameobi and Lovenkrands dont appear to have improved over the summer.

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    Archie Brand says:

    Hey Toonsy – dont you start blaming me !!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

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    bowburnmag says:

    Sorry Arch – first time for everything, I normally always check the author.

    Yeah, I agree with the lack of striking options. I thought there were few positives and while it’s early days, I just wasn’t convinced that we have good enough options up front.

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    Archie Brand says:

    Certainly not a problem mate, sometimes I prefer to deny it anyway

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    Munich Mag says:

    Archie Brand…excellent article mate, had me laughing….keep up the good stuff !

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    Moreno says:

    I see BrisBegas is chief witch hunter today! (no change there then :roll: ) – cue the in-depth psycho-analysis…

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    Moreno says:

    Bris,

    Reading back through your posts you make me chuckle. You have a pop at Troy for his attitude towards other bloggers and the. Randomly attack me out the blue….

    Dunno bout down under pal, over here we call that ‘being a f*ckin hypocrite’ ;-)

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    richietoon says:

    Moreno…maybe it’s because you’re an easy target with your lack of life experience ;-) :lol:

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    Brisvegas says:

    Moreno: Not out of the blue. Refer comment 92. Didn’t realise that was an attack either. Sorry, thought you had a sense of humour.

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    Moreno says:

    Sorry in that case,

    Just don’t get it! I never linked comment 92 with ‘writing my dreams’ …. Scratched my head for a bit and just don’t get it so sorry as I never realised that’s what you were referring too.

    Maybe a bit too intelligent for me mate, I am just a charva from Shields after all :smile:

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