Scunthorpe v Newcastle – Carling Cup preview.

Bad memories of Glanford Park.
Tonight we take on Scunthorpe United in the second round of this seasons Carling Cup where the same old argument will no doubt raise it’s head. How strong a team should we put out?

Last season we fielded weakened teams against Accrington Stanley and Chelsea before bowing out to eventual runners-up Arsenal in a 0-4 thumping. As with most topics on football blogs, opinion was divided last season when Chris Hughton saw it fit to put a possible cup run on the back burner.

I personally thought Chris Hughton done the right thing as staying in the Premier League was all I really wanted from last season and resting first team players helped them dismantle the stinking Mackems in the demolition derby. But with the benefit of hindsight, and Birmingham City winning the Carling Cup there were some disgruntled supporters among us with cries of “if we put out a strong side, we could have won some silverware!” Well possibly, but it’s all ifs and buts.

Onto the match itself and as ever we shall start by taking a look at the home team.

Scunthorpe United

New signing Oliver Norwood will go straight into the squad for the match after securing a loan move from Manchester United. Whether or not the highly rated Northern Ireland gets the nod to start is a different matter however. In terms of injuries Scunthorpe only have one to contend with as Paul Reid is out with a groin injury. He’ll more than be replaced by Niall Canavan.

Last time out Scunthorpe managed a rather creditable 2-2 draw away at Charlton Athletic although it’s well worth pointing out that they have yet to win in the league this season with their sole victory to date having come as a result of this competition when they beat Accrington Stanley in the last round.

Newcastle United

Alan Pardew is likely to shuffle the pack for the game tonight as several players who are short of games and fitness will get a run out and a chance to impress. Sylvain Marveaux will make his debut while it’s thought that the likes of Sammy Ameobi and Haris Vuckic will be called upon. Joey Barton will miss the match as he finalises a move to QPR although he would have missed the game with a foot injury anyway. He might not even be at the club by kick-off time to be fair.

This is where the whole subtle point about team strength comes into the equation. How far do you go? A trip to Wembley would be amazing and a Cup win would certainly make supporting Newcastle United a different experience from the pain and anguish that we are accustomed to, but for me, I’d go with a second string side this time round too. It’s a great chance for our fringe players to try to prove what they’ve got and with players like Steve Harper, Peter Lovenkrands, Demba Ba and Mike Williamson having to be content with bench warming duties, we are hardly short of experience.

That’s why I’d quite like to see something along the lines of this: Steve Harper, James Perch, Mike Williamson, Tamas Kadar, Shane Ferguson, Sylvain Marveaux, Haris Vuckic, Dan Gosling, Peter Lovenkrands, Leon Best, Demba Ba.

A bit of a mix of youth and experience, and more of the same on the bench – youth for if things go well, experience to turn to in case things don’t.

As much as I would love a trip to Wembley, I just don’t see it as a priority. I would be happy to see fringe players featuring in the Carling Cup until the Quarter Finals at least. Maybe then, if things in the Premier League all look good, a stronger side can play and hopefully lead us to a great day out in the smoke.

First things first though we need to get past Scunthorpe. I’m sure we all remember what happened there in the Championship and whilst they have dropped to League One these days it doesn’t mean that a result is a given. Sky will be there wanting an upset and we need to make sure we don’t give it to them. It’s a banana skin of a fixture and the boys need to ensure that they remain professional and try and avoid doing another Stevenage.

I’d like to hear your thoughts on the team. Would you go with a second string team or would you play the strongest team possible? Do we go for the cup or do we treat it with the same contempt and disdain as shown by Neil Warnock at QPR when they went out to MK Dons on home turf on Tuesday?

Let’s see your teams!

Howay the lads!

Date: Thursday, 25th August, 2011.

Kick-off: 7:45pm.

Ground: Glanford Park.

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59 thoughts on “Scunthorpe v Newcastle – Carling Cup preview.

  1. Thought we played well in this competition last season and we were unlucky v Arsenal, more of the same will do me, great that there is a game tonight to take our mind off the behind the scenes shennanigans.


  2. good thread jay jay buddy

    5 players im looking 4wad to watching tonight if they play are


    they all need match fitness aswell!!!

    my prediction tonight

    scunthorpe 1 newcastle 3

    please no injurys tonight


  3. my team

    perch willo kadar fergy
    gosling vukic guhrie marveaux
    best ba

    sammy ameobi


  4. Army, agree with your team. Think that would be a good side to play against scun

    Anyone know about this nolan roux?


  5. This is our only chance of winning anything – go for it!
    Thats what KK said – and I recall a report that feilding a weakened team was one reason CH was dumped.

    However the team you suggest (with a couple of changes) need not be considered a weak side ‘cos we are not yet sure what our strongest side is! Assuming no ASBO and a couple either ingured or rested then the following 4-5-2 looks good, which makes me think how strong in depth we realy are

    Steve Harper (due for a game)
    Simpson (Perch only an emergency backup), Mike Williamson, Tamas Kadar, Shane Ferguson,
    Sylvain Marveaux, Haris Vuckic, Dan Gosling, Tiote (needs sharpening up)
    Leon Best (needs to claim his place), Demba Ba (need to learn more about him).

    this should be worth a 0-2 win



  6. Didnt think kadar was given a squad number ??

    I would expect something like this:



  7. Agree JJ a mix of youth n experience is the way forward in this compition , esp in the early rounds. Looking forward to watching the game tonight with a few beers


  8. ZoΓ« Vicarage
    August 25, 2011 at 10:47

    Army, agree with your team. Think that would be a good side to play against scun

    Anyone know about this nolan roux?

    thankyou mrs πŸ™‚

    zoe look at his vids on youtube!! looks class


  9. I wouldnt play smith in my fcuking pub team, I was just putting him there becuase pardew mentioned him playing in his press conference…


  10. CC
    August 25, 2011 at 10:55

    I wouldnt play smith in my fcuking pub team, I was just putting him there becuase pardew mentioned him playing in his press conference

    πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†


  11. Army, just seen that goal. Looks like a very very good player

    Hoping Gosling will score tonight, think he will get a lot more playing time now that it looks like mr barton is off to qpr


  12. god i hope we get a good striker and good left back in soonish im starting to get stressed about all this carry on!!!!

    Daniel Sturridge , Nicklas Bendtner , Didier Drogba, Dimitar Berbatov, Federico Macheda, Jermain Defoe, Roman Pavlyuchenko, Peter Crouch, Robbie Keane, Danny Graham, Hugo Rodallega, , Clint Dempsey, Gervinho , Mevlut Erdinc, Kevin Gameoiro, Eren Derdiyok , Park Chu-Young, Ola Toivonen, Klaas Jan Huntelaar,Teteh Bangura , Mohamed Bangura , Miralem Sulejmani, Keirrison, , Ante Vukusic, Juan Manuel Martinez , Shane Long, Grant Holt, Modibo Maiga, Carlton Cole & Demba Ba

    stupid fecka me has believed every1 πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†


  13. aye gosling deserves a goal mind , the last year has been bad 4 him but i see great things soon 4 him , he looks sharp and fit now , hes a talent


  14. Ranger? is he still with us (can’t remember – did we loan him out) & fit – if so give him a chance!


  15. Yeah, I thought he was going to score against sunderland. He was unlucky, was impressed with him during pre-season.


  16. ARMY69
    rest? they havn’t done anything yet
    those we know about, fair enough give them a night off
    but others are new and need as many games together as possible
    and a couple (like Tiote, Best & Harper) need a good game under their belts



    ps forgot about Guthrie (easily done)


  17. Looking forward to this one, if we win, then woohoo, but if we lose, ho hum at least players wont risk injuries in a non existent run.
    I think Pardew would pick:-
    Raylor – Saylor – Williamson – Fergie
    Sameobie – Gosling – Vuckic – Marveaux
    Loven – Best


  18. Zoe….ref Roux, dump the “hot” bit from Army’s statement and that may sum him up, 6 goals in 28 games last season πŸ˜• ….still young I s’pose so may improve……or get worse :mrgreen:


  19. Army? Smith?!





    Subs: Sameobi, Lovenkrans, Tiote, Saylor, Krul


  20. From SSN:

    “Newcastle’s interest is very serious and Erik finds the club a real challenge,” Van der Pol told the Dutch media.

    “I don’t know the exact numbers of Newcastle’s offer, but I’m pretty sure that the transfer will go ahead.”


  21. looking forward to seeing Marvaux. See what he can offer for the rest of season..

    Hope Vuckic has a good game. I think he’ll be played a lot by MA this season. get him in the window for next years sales.

    mmm real porridge oats with two teaspoons of drinking chocolate… scrumptious..


  22. richietoon
    August 25, 2011 at 11:15

    Zoe….ref Roux, dump the β€œhot” bit from Army’s statement and that may sum him up, 6 goals in 28 games last season πŸ˜• ….still young I s’pose so may improve……or get worse

    did i say his goal tally was shit hot?? no i said his goals looked shit hot on youtube buddy


  23. Army…and where did I say you mentioned his goals tally?, I said if you dropped the hot from your “shit hot” that “may” sum him up, THEN I mentioned his goal tally πŸ™„


  24. IMO we should field a 75% full strength team, a club like ours should be taking any chance to win a trophy with both hands.
    I dont go by the old excuse we have to be careful we dont get injuries, if thats the case we should wrap them in cotton wool and do away with practise games in training, incase we pick up injuries.
    For me the cup competitions offer you the chance to try 2-3 fringe players alongside the senior players, which I think is the best way to let the fringe players get a feel for the real game.


  25. Agree totally with that assessment, JJ. It is important, but we have enough strength in depth now to attack it. (Those saying we have a “paper-thin squad should look at our bench from Saturday.)

    I do actually see the point of playing Smith, by the way – but only if Guthrie’s not available. You do need an old head in the middle of all the french kids.


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