Will this trio make their way into the starting XI?

Marveaux ready to make an impact

Does Marveaux deserve a chance?
Saturday’s match against Blackburn Rovers saw the return of Hatem Ben Arfa after a lengthy lay off.

It was great to see him return on the St James’ Park turf. There was a great reception for the Frenchman and he got himself involved in the time that he was on the field by very nearly setting up Leon Best after some clever play.

The game also saw Sylvain Marveaux joining in on the action after a very impressive display in our Carling Cup win over Nottingham Forest. He too has had a long time off the pitch due to an injury that he sustained last season. However Marveaux has begun to show that he can indeed be a very talented and influential player for us.

With news coming that Davide Santon is set to play for the reserves against Swansea on Wednesday night. It makes me wonder whether this particular trio will make their way into our matchday line up or find themselves integrated into the game during the latter stages of the second half.

The current team that have played all six games in the Premier League are unbeaten. There have been performances from the players in our unbeaten side that have been top notch. So a question came to mind that made me wonder whether these players can get into the side with the way that they are playing at the moment.

Many earmark Hatem Ben Arfa to play a number ten role for us, perhaps behind one striker but with the combination of Leon Best and Demba Ba seemingly working so effectively would it be the right decision by our gaffer to disrupt this blossoming partnership?

In my eyes I think it would not be a good idea to change the way that these two are playing at the moment. Although Leon Best did not score against Blackburn he was provider for Ba and he knew exactly where his strike-partner was. If both of these players continue they way that they are and deliver the goods for us, I see that it will be tough for Ben Arfa to gain the number ten spot that he looks certain to play in.

Sylvain Marveaux has certainly been making moves to stake claim to the left-midfield slot. He performed very well in the Carling Cup and he is a natural left-footer who can cross the ball superbly. The Frenchman seems to be nipping at the heels of Jonas Gutierrez to make it into the starting eleven. However Jonas has showed that he is a player that we can rely on when we have a player who does not normally play at left-back playing there.

In all the games that Jonas has played with Ryan Taylor behind he has been a vital link in helping his fellow team-mate out. Now if Marveaux came into that position, would he be able to give him the same protection as Jonas does when he is playing at this position? Marveaux looks a very talented player for us and he will be knocking on Gutierrez’s door to lay claim to that left-midfield position.

Davide Santon makes his comeback for the reserves on Wednesday night after having his knee drained of fluid. When Jose Enrique left for Liverpool during the summer transfer window, Ryan Taylor was not the name on the lips of many Toon supporters to be the one to play in his absence. However I think he has shown to us that he is capable of putting in a decent shift for us during a whole match.

At times he has had his bad moments but there have been equally fantastic moments when he has played in that position. Hopefully Santon makes a successful comeback during the reserve game and is deemed fully fit, he will certainly looking to be competing with Raylor for the left-back slot. If Santon is fully fit would it be right to switch for a player who has been playing well at left-back for Santon who needs time to adjust to the English League. I’m not sure what would happen but for me Santon is an actual left-back whereas Ryan Taylor isn’t. Only the manager can decide what will happen.

In these three positions we have areas where players are pushing for a place in the team. However is right to break up the team that is so far unbeaten in the league?

The group of players who have played week in week out in those games have shown that they are able to gain points in the games that they play. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it is the phrase that comes to mind, this team has been playing so well in recent matches would it be right to disband these players? Perhaps the team should be left as it is for the foreseeable future and then allow how the next games go to allow Pardew to decide to make the wholesale changes to the side.

What do you think?

34 thoughts on “Will this trio make their way into the starting XI?

  1. good shout jobey,aye where are when are marv and benny going to fit in nice tough prob to have,santon is a little less of a problem when hes up and running got to come in at l/b imo

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  2. Zoe a lot of good points made there, as for the 2 strikers I think that is ok for home games but away from home I think we might be better going with 1 up top and 5 in MF with 2 of Tiote and Cabaye and 3 of Jonas, Benny and Obertan.

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  3. Hm santon the only one you said u think should be in. Just to clarify is this based on footballing ability or…..physical attributes Zoe 😉

    Nah I think it’d be hard to justify breaking the team up at the minute but I can see it being changed after just one loss, not majorly but HBA yes and santon if he’s adjusted

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  4. Dub: Footballing ability, he knows how to play at left back and is a natural there compared to Ryan Taylor. who you could argue is more of a midfielder than a fullback. Not in any way influenced by his physical attributes 😉

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  5. What a position to be in! Everyone thought we’d be rushing Ben Arfa back but the way things are going he can eased back into the team and he might not even get in for a while!

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  6. I agree in theory with the option of playing 5 away from home especially but it’s been so long since we’ve seen him that I can’t remember how much HBA does to try and win the ball back. That’s part of the idea of playing a 5. Now I know that’s not all there is to it and he’ll have others to do that allowing him to create but I wonder if he’d be any better in terms of getting possession than ba playing deep. Granted if best stops scoring theyll probably both play. Sorry. Rambling.

    Marveaux is the iterating one for me as Ben arfa will claim his place sooner or later and santon will get his chance once he’s settled. For me the marveaux decision will depend a lot on how solid santon is. We also don’t really know how good a job sly can do defensively. From what I’ve seem he doesn’t seem like a slouch in that regard but jonas is brilliant. For me playing him in a game like Blackburn at home would’ve been perfect had santon been in as he’d have license to get forward and break them down and see how it goes from there.

    I’d like it to get to the stage where all our wingers are comfortable enough with the team that they can Be changed according to the opposition and situation but how far away that is I don’t know.

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  7. Ice were you with your mate JD today instead of working 🙂
    Dub thats the only thing, I do want to see Santon in at LB but it would be a bit rough dropping Raylor for nowt really, I know he has cocked up a few times but he hasn’t cost us a game and its a bit hard to break up a winning team.

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  8. Personally, I do not think Ben Arfa is ready to start yet. He looked rusty the other day despite some neat touches. Why piss off another member of the squad by displacing them from the team when they are playingh well and winning games? Stick him on the bench and ease him in gently, he’s had a long time out…

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  9. No way they can make a change now IMO. But after a loss or two, we will see Ben Arfa starting behind the striker in a 5-man MF…at least for away matches.

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  10. Really hope Santon comes through the game tomorrow unscathed.

    Not only does his return put R.Taylor under pressure it will put Simpson under pressure because even if Santon gets Taylors position, Taylor could easily take Simpsons!

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  11. I agree in theory with the option of playing 5 away from home especially but it’s been so long since we’ve seen him that I can’t remember how much HBA does to try and win the ball back. That’s part of the idea of playing a 5. Now I know that’s not all there is to it and he’ll have others to do that allowing him to create but I wonder if he’d be any better in terms of getting possession than ba playing deep. Granted if best stops scoring theyll probably both play. Sorry. Rambling.

    Marveaux is the iterating one for me as Ben arfa will claim his place sooner or later and santon will get his chance once he’s settled. For me the marveaux decision will depend a lot on how solid santon is. We also don’t really know how good a job sly can do defensively. From what I’ve seem he doesn’t seem like a slouch in that regard but jonas is brilliant. For me playing him in a game like Blackburn at home would’ve been perfect had santon been in as he’d have license to get forward and break them down and see how it goes from there.

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  12. ‘d like it to get to the stage where all our wingers are comfortable enough with the team that they can Be changed according to the opposition and situation but how far away that is I don’t know.

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  13. Huh said it wouldn’t post. Sorry guys. Probably me more than the server toonsy 🙁
    Doing it on my phone and error message said too short (irony) so I tried splitting it

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  14. Toonsy I left a post for you on the jonas one mate. it seems to be loading a lot faster than usual, will we be seeing the icons again 🙂 im fuking lost without them haha I know you can still do them the old way but my mind isn’t what it was 🙂
    Zoe I know Simpson isn’t the best in the prem but I dont think Raylor is better, atm Obertan can attack as much as he wants because he doesnt have to comeback to babysit Simmo the way Jonas has to for Raylor

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  15. aye Jobey, sweet article 🙂

    I’ll test the server 2night, If it works while I’m watching livefooty it should be fine. Normally I can’t view anything else while this site was loaded as the ‘old’ server was very heavy

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  16. Shamrock no, never been. Don’t think you’ll get many arguments re Ben arfa. He needs minutes to get his sharpness to justify a place in the team but atm others deserve their places and wouldn’t want to risk him getting injured in the ressies. Sub appearances for now.

    I think something could happen over the international break mind

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  17. there’s been quite a bit of controversy relating to line ups, who should play where, most unfortunately cant think outside the box, constantly using either the 4-4-2 the 4-4-1-1, why not the old 2-3-5 of the fifties ?
    To days modern game, as played by say ! Barcelona who play without the standard set of strikers, with as many as six midfielders, a combination of play-making, defensive when needed and scorers.
    With a lot of interchanging of positions and freedom to roam.
    Look it’s not for all teams, this style, and requires smart technical players, who in turn require the right coaches and a manager with a solid tactical knowledge of the game.
    As for the team being built at NUFC right now, well they are for the most part, good technically and could play a similar tactical style, whether the club has the right tactically astute coaches and a manager who could introduce this style of play, well i have my doubts ?
    But i believe the lineup should be a standard back four, with the wing backs making the occasional runs.
    With Tiote sitting in front breaking up attacks.
    Which leaves six which should involve Cabaye-Marveaux-Ben Arfa-Ba and B
    est plus Jonas or Obertan.
    They could be covered by Gosling-Ferguson-Sammy A-Vukich-Best -and Abeid.
    But i doubt if we have the managerial or coaching talent to convert NUFC into a team playing a modern style of football.

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  18. No need to make any changes as yet…. as long as the first XI are performing well, the fringe guys will have to battle for spots coming off the bench. Over time tho… surely Benny will force his way in, probably at the expense of Best and a change of formation

    man, Pardew has a job on his hands figuring out his optimum team/formation and keeping everyone happy (especially without LC ties if/when we get knocked oot).

    Maybe one or two of Sameobi, Gosling, Vuckic or even Fergie (not all of em, mind) should go out on short-term loans to get experience?

    Perhaps our first XI will look something like this around the turn of the year…?

    ———————Krul——————–
    Tavernier*– Saylor– Colo– Santon
    ——————–Tiote——————
    ————-Cabaye———————-
    Obertan**—- Ben Arfa —–Jonas**
    ———————Ba———————

    * i know! wishful thinking…..
    ** or Marveaux

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  19. I think it is quite a good position to be in, and frankly shouldnt we be making changes from a position of relative strength, in terms of position in the league, playing style and spirit, as opposed to when we need to with injuries? I would much rather try and bring Santon and HBA in more and more, and perhaps see a bit more rotation between Obertoon, Jonas and Marveux. I like many would like to see Jonas on the right and see what he can do. Perhaps this will happen when he isnt backing up Raylor and Marveux and Santon make the LHS. Its great to have these things to talk of and not the expected doom and gloom

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