Club v Country

Passion.
I sat yesterday watching Montenegro vs England hoping that England would lose, and I was happy to see Rooney get sent off and even happier to see the Montenegrans score in injury time.

How wrong is that?

I know some of you will think that was a tad random, but it’s the truth, and I’ll stumble across a point eventually, just you wait. I know I’ll get some stick for my opening comment, and maybe even called a traitor, but do I care? Not at all. The England football team means nothing to me.

Does anyone else feel the same way, or is it just me? I couldn’t care less about England. They’re not a patch on the one team I do support, Newcastle United. England win, I don’t care. Newcastle win, I’m elated. England lose, it’s mildly funny. Newcastle lose and I’m devastated.

What matters more to you? Club or Country? And how close is it?

This debate isn’t just over fans though, it’s players too. I hear constant moaning about our players not playing for their international teams, but do we really want them too? I moan too, so that’s not a dig in any way, but do we really want our key men travelling hundreds of miles to play against some minnow who can’t tackle and get injured? I don’t.

I suppose it’s just the recognition though. For example tonight watching John Terry and Gary Cahill get given a masterclass by a Montenegran forward really annoyed me. Fair enough if it was his skill, but it wasn’t, it was his desire and fight. Would that have happen to Steven Taylor? Would he have put in half-hearted headers, and let players stream by him? I doubt it, because he’s passionate and he’d give everything for the shirt start to finish, but we’ll never really know, because he doesn’t play for a London club.

Also there was quite a bit of stick for Trappatoni for not picking Leon Best, I’m deep down quite happy. There’s no doubt Best deserves to play for them, and the comments from Trappatoni were not just harsh, but completely wrong. But do we want him travelling to play away in Andorra when he can have himself a rest in Newcastle?

Give Best a chat and tell him that he’s good enough for a top 4 team (us) and way too good for Ireland and he’ll be chuffed. He’s not even Irish anyway…

Yohan Cabaye went away to play for France this week, he started the game and had to come off after 47 minutes. I felt sick when I saw he was injured, our talisman and the main man in our excellent midfield and he’s got injured playing for France against bloody Albania, unnecessary.

There’s been no word on a timescale for Cabaye’s injury from Blanc, but French Eurosport claim it may be 4-6 weeks with ankle ligament damage, hopefully they’re wrong and he’s fine for Sunday. Worrying though. I hate Albania.

I am happy when we get players called up for internationals despite the worry as it’s a form of recognition and I’m sure it makes the players happy. England have got to the point where I actually don’t care, so I’ve turned to supporting the players we have away on International break.

If you’d asked me what I wanted tonight, Yohan Cabaye to come through unscathed and to play a blinder for France, and Tim Krul to keep a clean sheet for Holland I’d have rather had that than and England win, because they are our players, players I actually like.

I’ll end this little rant and give you a roundup of our players that did play for their international teams today:

Joan Edmundsson played for the Faroe Islands at U21 level against Denmark and he was on the wrong end of a 4-0 scoreline. He also missed a second half penalty to compile his misery.

Yohan Cabaye played for France as they beat Albania 3-0, Cabaye was withdrawn in the 47th minute with a slight injury making him a doubt for Tuesday. Cabaye walked off the field, so his injury may not be as bad as feared.

Tim Krul was an unused sub for Holland as they beat Moldova 1-0 to secure top spot in their group. The bench shows how far Tim Krul has come, as last year he spent a lot of time on our bench, so that’s a great achievement.

I might be the only one, but international football just seems dead to me. The selection, the manager, the commitment, just everything to be honest, and it’s not a patch on club football. Do other people feel the same?

I’d like to know your thoughts, on both the NUFC side and the country side too. (If anyone makes a joke about farmers, or sheep, or tractors, I’ll not be best pleased) 😉

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148 thoughts on “Club v Country

  1. Moreno, let’s not forget Super Barfa!!!

    20 goals a season, with clogs on, going clip-clippety-clop on the stair.

    He’s already a LEGEND.

    ..I don’t know much, but I think I love him

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  2. Toonsy: Yep! Could tell that happened on the local news last night, there was a piece about how the conker championships in my region was called off because it was too windy!

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  3. Club first country second, always has been always will be. I always want England to win though, just don’t bother watching half the time. As long as I can remember England have always been boring to watch in general but it’s the arrogance and seeming lack of passion that grates on me now.
    I still want them to win but they need a big clear out of the old guard and manager which should have been done straight after the last fiasco of a World Cup but the FA and Pat bottled it 👿

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  4. Batty you only want Toonsy to do a thread on [email protected] because you know you will be top of the list as No1 [email protected] 😉
    Richie @ 86 does that still apply when Spain are playing

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  5. Toonsy: I might be able to knock something up in the morning while the grand prix is on. Not sure what on though, need some inspiration 😕

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  6. Did you know:

    The famous Russian composer, Aleksandr Borodin, who loved a bit of cello, was also a respected chemistry professor, who hit the fucking nail on the head whilst explaining the nucleophilic displacement of chlorine by fluorine in benzoyl chloride.

    What a Ledge.

    Respect. Booyaka booyaka bo

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  7. Ha, took me half an hour, but I finally got to sending u my idea for article. Not much for debate, but a rather pleasant thought

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  8. …meanwhile, watch my blind dancing badgers, they’ve trained well this week and are keen to display their ability. Take it away, ladies and gentlemen, I give you, my very own BLIND DANCING BADGERS……..!!!!!

    ……..

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  9. I think the reason myself included cannot give a rats ars about England is because we can’t relate to the pre madonnas playing. 150k a week they show no passion desire.

    One thing I am so defiant on is I believe that no player should ever be paid to play for their country. Let the club pay the wages. They have to earn it. Sadly it doesn’t happen they don’t earn it they just get picked on media hype and if you play for man u or not.

    English players are great with foreign around them but when put them all together rubbish.

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  10. They do have that effect on people Moreno, I keep telling them to ignore the haters, they get a lot of shit my badgers, in fact, one of them ran away from home last Thursday. I’ve ran out of sellotape and lamposts, and am beginning to wonder if it was actually me who even suggested Libya in the first place.

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  11. I always feared the day would come when people like you are talking woodland creatures into armed conflict. Disgraceful

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  12. I have been saying it for ages I hate international breaks… speaking of hating, Im from northern Ireland and completely dispise everything the national stands for every thing from “football national anthem” etc etc Obviously shane fergy shares our views!!!! I support the republic of ireland and TBH when leon best wasnt called up I was kind of happy now he can get a break b4 the spurs game. England is split in a differnt way, but either way no one really cares about internationals I think the champions league is bigger than the world cup.

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  13. Move aside,
    and let the man go through.
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    If I stole
    somebody else’s wave
    to fly up.

    If I rose
    up with the avenue
    behind me.

    Some kind of verb.
    Some kind of moving thing.
    Something unseen.
    Some hand is motioning
    to rise, to rise, to rise.

    Too fight that, you must cut clean,
    You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine,
    Chump change, and it’s on. Super bon bon,
    super bon bon, super bon bon.

    Too fight that, you must cut clean,
    You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine,
    Chump change, and it’s on. Super bon bon,
    super bon bon, super bon bon.

    And by
    the phone
    I live
    in fear.
    Sheer chance
    will draw
    you in
    to here.

    Too fight that, you must cut clean,
    You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine,
    Chump change, and it’s on. Super bon bon,
    super bon bon, super bon bon.

    Too fight that, you must cut clean,
    You got to take the elevator to the mezzanine,
    Chump change, and it’s on. Super bon bon,
    super bon bon, super bon bon.

    A super bon bon, super bon bon.
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    Move up and let the man go, let the man go.
    Move up and let the man go, let the man go.
    Move up and let the man go, let the man go.
    Move up and let the man go, let the man go through.

    Move aside,
    and let the man go through.
    Let the man go through.

    Move aside,
    and let the man go through.
    Let the man go through.

    Move aside,
    and let the man go through.
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    Move aside,
    and let the man go through.
    Let the man go through.

    …and stuff.

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  14. Omlette shop’s doing well tonight anyway, wasn’t sure at first but the punters are lapping it up. Proper sick. Bo!

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  15. Rodz you are barking lad! 😆

    England: Strong qualification campaigns against poor sides, loads of media hype about this being our year, footballers believing the hype – England getting embarrased as soon as they face a decent side – tournament over…

    ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz……….ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz……….

    Could not care less…. Dont even bother tuning in to watch the National side anymore. In fact, dont even realise they are playing most of the time!

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  16. As an American, I tend to rate international footy highly (For the USA at least), just because it’s a vital thing in promoting the game to the States. It’s also interesting to see what sort of foreign born players we have playing for the country (Timmy Chandler, Mikkel Diskerud, Juan Agudelo, Daniel Williams, just to name a few) and what the future of the national team with the U-21, U-20, U-17 teams. There’s a good amount of young talent coming up through the ranks, like Brek Shea, Mix Diskerud, and Josh Gatt. I think the USA in a few years will have another golden generation of players, maybe world beaters? Who knows.

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  17. Wor Joseph – What ever happened to Freddy Adu? I was led to believe he was the 2nd coming of Pele once upon a time!

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  18. I’ll take both of them GS, Cardiacs at the moment, although I was listening to Soul Coughing earlier. Ahem. A surreptitious syrup nest test next.

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  19. …and his surname’s Lydon by the way, not Rotten.

    Same surname as mi ganny Liz from Battle Hill, although I doubt myself and Jon are related, it could be a conversational piece nonetheless.

    God save the Queen, we mean it man.

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  20. Steven Taylor is shit.

    …….WWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwhat a wanker. Just look at the fucker. Obviously a cockney. Eyebrows far too dark to be a Geordie.

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  21. so do I mate, as long as the walls are lined with nutella, and I’m equipped with faux sharpened white chocolate spoon hooves, I’ll be fine.

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  22. …reet, am off, and remember, always use the green cross code, because I won’t be there when you cross the road.

    …tatty bye for now, infidels 😎 .

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  23. Jobey, Just read your post and couldnt agree more, our board should be demanding the return of Cabaye at once, as they will play him on Tuesday and he will return crocked.
    I used to be England daft but when they moved to Soho Square and went all Billy Big Time and became ” Club England”, it has gone down hill rapidly with a succession of highly paid arseholes in charge and the presence of the biggest arsehole – Beckham , a constant presence and reminder of the circus it has become.
    The current manager is a complete joke, but at 5m a year, i dont think he gives a toss what anyone thinks.
    But my biggest gripe is with the whole international calender, its the tail wagging the dog, we just get going and there is a break, followed by one after another, there is another break on 12th November, and the only fixtures listed are the U21 Qualifiers, they are now officially taking the piss with that one.
    It wouldnt be so bad if the break did them any good but they seem to get the football coached out of them by Capello and his cohorts.
    Rant over, Club before country for me.

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  24. Maybe it’s because I am an American and have no actual ties to NUFC, Newcastle or England (other than English and Scottish ancestry), but I am country before club. There may be a bit more to that as well because the USA still seems to lack some respect in the world of football (rightly or wrongly so).
    But, when it comes to club football, NUFC is the top for me. No other team in any other nation’s league (even my own) even comes close. My wife can attest to my weekend moods riding on the results of a game.

    Howay Le Lads.

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  25. Fck me. Hate it when a referee dominates a game

    Just made up his own fecking rules. Tackles around the neck allowed, players not releasing after the tackle allowed, playing the ball on the ground allowed… But only for the fckn Ozzies.

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  26. My goodness grief. Deary me.

    I will never understand how you can’t be passionate about your country.

    Very strange opinions indeedy. 😯

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  27. Actually, I agree, for me. It’s country first. If I had to.choose between my country winning the world cup and Toon winning the league, it’d bet country.
    Maybe that’s because, politcally and geographicly it influences my life more.
    I love the Toon but against my country theirs no contest.

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  28. When the manager and team show a bit of passion, i might reciprocate, the whole set up is aloof, removed from the fans, devoid of any flair, interest, drive, determination, passion or signs of progress, the skills set is there it just needs a Clive Woodward type personality to put it all together.

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  29. @JJ

    Even stranger opinions! 😯

    Absolutely incredible!

    The Toon come streets ahead for me.

    But I’m also passionate about England.

    I can’t believe you put England before the Toon.
    😯

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  30. @Robert

    I can’t see any skill in the England set up.

    We always blame every manager but I think we need to accept our players are average.

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  31. When it comes to football, always the toon first, then England.

    …and always England over other nations…….easy…

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