Not that it matters of course, not in these cases anyway, as Alan Pardew and Co attempt to give some of the young guns some valuable experience on loan at other clubs.
First out the door is Nile Ranger who has joined Championship outfit Barnsley temporarily although I have a feeling that the majority of Newcastle fans wouldn’t have minded if the word temporary had been replaced with permanent. Perhaps a stint in South Yorkshire is just what Ranger needs to wake him up a bit and make him realise what he has got? That is assuming that his plethora of court cases haven’t done just that.
Another player heading to South Yorkshire on a temporary basis is James Tavernier who has joined Sheffield Wednesday on a short term loan. Tav is not stranger to going out on loan and spent time at Gateshead last season before heading off to Carlisle for a few months earlier on in this season where he made 16 appearances. It’s interesting to note his development though as he’s gone from Conference football to League One football to League One promotion chasing football. Clearly the lad is impressing.
Meanwhile Kazenga Lua Lua has finally joined Brighton on a permanent basis and has signed a three-year deal for an undisclosed fee that will complete as soon as the transfer window opens and registration documents can be sent to the Football league and FA. He will remain on loan with the Seagulls until he “officially” becomes a full Brighton & Hove Albion player.
However where Gus Poyet has gained a player from us, he has also had to give one back to us as Steve Harper heads home from his jaunt down South. Interestingly Harper has said that he enjoyed the loan and it was just what he needed although I’m just happy he is back so we have decent cover in the goalkeeping area once again.
So a busy few days for Newcastle then. One in and three out. We’ve regained some experience whilst some of the other lads head out and try to gain some of their own. I can see our players getting loaned out a lot more often now to be honest, which isn’t a bad thing. Why not get them playing competitive games instead of youth or reserve matches?
So it’s goodbye to Kaz, Nile and Tav and welcome home to Stevie!
I hope Steve goes back to No2 though I doubt it 🙁
richietoon(Quote)
I thought Lua Lua looked fairly handy in the cup game I saw him in. In Pards I trust though.
Brendan(Quote)
Richietoon, Pards said he will be rotating the back up keepers.
And Brendan, I’d say we have handier players than him available on the wing now
AndrewT(Quote)
Im glad to see Ranger going out on loan maybe getting playing regular if he does will help settle him down.
As for Lua Lua I thought he was a good youngun, but have said a few times that after going out on loan and being a valuable part of that squad, and having Gus saying how good he was etc, that I just couldn’t see him wanting to comeback here to warm the bench after tasting the life of a 1st teamer so good luck to the lad.
I will say that I think we’ll see him as a Prem player within 2-3yrs.
Big Dave(Quote)
Definitely agree Andrew we have a wealth of better players in front of him and Dave brings up a good point. He probably prefers getting an almost regular starting spot in the fizzy than playing for the reserves.
Brendan(Quote)
wonder if ashley will sommon demba to london for talks,for saying we wont finish in the top 4 😆 😆
hitman(Quote)
Hopefully it will sort Ranger out a bit 😕
Interesting thing about Tav is that he’s been picked up by “better” clubs each time.
Lua Lua has been gone for ages IMO.
Harper should be No2 but will he be happy with that?
toonsy(Quote)
Hitman – Joking aren’t you? That will be music to Ashley’s ears. No pay rises 😉
toonsy(Quote)
Toonsy I don’t think he will be happy as a No2, can see him pushing for another loan.
Do you know how long left on his contract ?.
As for Lua as you said he was long gone, and thats one of the risks you run loaning players out, if they become a 1st team players with regular games, they mightn’t want to comeback to sit on the bench with no real prospect of 1st team action at their parent club.
In that case I admire the players that are willing to drop down to smaller teams for regular games, rather than warm the bench with no real chance at a Big Club.
Big Dave(Quote)
Harper has to be no.2 He’s proven premiership quality no matter what people say. Can’t say the same about Elliot though. Shame to see Kaz go but he was getting oldish and it looks like Sammy has the impact sub role down for the future anyway so its a good move for him. Good to see tav out as well, if he really impresses it would be nice to see him in a championship team from January, then we’ll know for next season where we stand when it comes for cover and who to replace in our backline.
Newkie(Quote)
Also-Didn’t harper talk to the brighton club website and say he really enjoyed it and wanted to move permanently? Saying he wished he had 10 years ago or so 😕 Sad to hear like but its probably true, top top keeper.
Newkie(Quote)
Dave…Harper’s contracted until the end of next season 😉
Tavernier’s runs out at the end of this 😯 😕
richietoon(Quote)
Cheers Richie me old bean, I can see him seeing out his contract and maybe getting loaned again.
As for Tav maybe they will see how he does this loan then if they have faith in him making it they’ll give him a new contract.
Big Dave(Quote)
Aye Dave, there’s a few young uns who’s contracts expire at the end of the season, a few will leave I expect.
richietoon(Quote)
Well Richie if there is no real prospect for them with us they wont have their contracts renewed.
Big Dave(Quote)
Sad to see Kaz go – have watched him develop and was a bit disappointed when he seemed to hit a plateau ability-wise a couple of years back. Best of luck to him – he’s a good, talented lad who works hard.
Harps should be happy with No2 to be honest; he’s just at “that age” now. I still think he has qualities that Krul is a long way short on, like an ability to really lamp the thing forward with accuracy when needed, and he can spot an opportunity to throw or pass and create a move, which Krul won’t really develop for a few years yet. So I hope he is happy to be backup, because he’s still the best option there.
As for Tav: long may this continue – at this rate he’ll be on the 1st team fringes by this time next year.
Whumpie(Quote)
double shot mocha with squirty cream.
nobby(Quote)
Dave..aye,it’s a shame but think kadar will be one of the ones to go.
richietoon(Quote)
Meh.
Ranger = Wasn’t getting a look in, major off the field problems a lot of people in a recent vote wanted to see the back of him permanently.
LuaLua = Not getting a sniff of the first team here and although it’s a sad goodbye it is probably the correct decision, he has gone to a team that is on the up and he is getting games there at championship level. Will only do him good in his career.
Tavernier = This is the one that I have the most hope for. Obviously Pardew thinks that in Santon and Perch we have enough cover. ‘Tav’ is slowly working his way up the ranks at loan level. Quick, talented little fullback who could have a future here. Hope he does well for the Owls.
Harper = Comes back from a short loan in the championship, needs another injection on his knee. Good backup as I don’t think we have that confidence in Elliott to do a job at this level should Krul get injured. Krul is very much no.1 though these days, just needs to sort his kicking out again.
DJG(Quote)
Thing with Harper is that he will understand that Krul deserves the shirt. He won’t be happy about it obviously but its just one of them things unfortunately.
toonsy(Quote)
Whumpie
Thats the strange thing to me though, there has been times where Krul has picked out players with absolute pinpoint accuracy. People see him kick it out of touch and assume he’s poor at kicking but I don’t think thats the case, he’s either slicing it too early or he’s trying too hard to find the right winger. I deffo think he will improve though, practice, practice and more practice. He’s so good already it’s easy to forget that he is just starting out in the sense of being a goalie. Look at Friedel he’s about 40 odd.
DJG(Quote)
Lualua had peaked, have seen him for Brighton a couple of times and his passing ability is shocking and seems to have gone backwards, maybe he found his level in League 1 – Sammy Ameobi has overtaken him in the pecking order as well as fergie so no surprise he went. Good luck to him tho
stevep(Quote)
“Thing with Harper is that he will understand that Krul deserves the shirt.”
Will he understand if eliott is undeservedly in front of him in the pecking order as well ??
CC(Quote)
I posed this question to Lee Ryder yesterday CC and he said. ‘If Krul is injured I expect Harper to be no.1 again’.
DJG(Quote)
Krul as everyone says is nailed on number 1 and has grown into the role faster than I thought he would which unfortunately for Harper has resulted in him dropping down the pecking order.
I think Elliott is the genuine number 2 with Harper if he stays as cover in the event of injury.
Why do I say that?
To be honest, I just have a gut feeling that all is not rosy with Harper and the powers that be at the club for whatever reason ( maybe the player power carry on, who knows).
We bought Elliott in for a reason and I don;t think it was just to nurture him because Soderberg would have been that choice I’m sure, regardless of his young years (Joe Hart).
As for Ranger, I’d be happy if the club let him go , permanent because although he has the talent (if worked on) he can become a very good addition but I feel he carries too much baggage already in his young years to actually realize his dream of playing at the top.
I don`t think he’s got that X factor.
We have got some cracking youngsters but as we all know , most won`t make the grade into the first team on any regular basis but I believe we have 4 or 5 that can quite quickly.
Abheid for starters and Sammi, plus Ferguson, Vuckic, are just 4 front runners and it`s a pick from the rest who can step up to the plate and bust the gut needed to attain nailed on first team/ squad status.
wolfie(Quote)