Ba humbug! Newcastle 2-3 West Brom

Two goal Demba not enough for NUFC

Two goal Demba not enough for NUFC
Newcastle United faced West Bromich Albion on Wednesday evening which proved to be another exciting encounter between the two sides.

Alan Pardew made one enforced change to the side that had faced Swansea City at the weekend. Haris Vuckic gained his full Premier League debut in place of the suspended Frenchman, Yohan Cabaye.

Alan Pardew had obviously prepped his side to hound West Brom and this was certainly evident in the way that their players were closed down. The side continued the fluidity that had been shown in the game against Swansea and the main attacking outlets were Davide Santon and Gabriel Obertan – both using their pace in order to beat defenders and add to Newcastle’s attacking threat.

Unfortunately for Newcastle, their efforts were undone in the 20th minute when Chris Brunt played the ball to Peter Odemwingie. The ball was played away from Coloccini and Odemwingie slotted it calmly into the back of the net.

There was an immediate response from Pardew’s side when the ball was played in by Obertan, Best then knocking the ball back for Ba to volley into the net. The supporters around the ground cheered in delight but delight was turned into frustration when the goal was correctly disallowed for Leon Best being offside.

Up until West Brom’s goal, there had been several good pieces of play within the Newcastle side. Jonas Gutierrez notched up two efforts on goal but both were off target. Haris Vuckic was certainly relishing his opportunity to play for the Magpies and in the 18th minute had shown tremendous visual awareness to thread the ball through West Brom’s defence for Demba Ba to latch on to only for Ben Foster to beat him to it.

Obertan was playing with a point to prove to the Newcastle fans and it certainly seemed that he was being more decisive with the ball at his feet. He was utilising his pace in order to make the defenders back off him so that he could create more space for him and his teammates around him.

In fact it was Obertan’s pacy run from the right-flank that led to him being fouled. From the resulting freekick, Demba Ba showed outstanding technique to whip the ball into the back of the net.

However in the 43rd minute Newcastle United failed to deal with a West Brom set piece that led to them going 2-1 upfront. Chiek Tiote allowed Paul Scharner to keep the ball alive and McAuley headed home for West Brom to take the lead once again. Poor defending let the Newcastle side down and was reminiscent of the team’s failure to deal with set-pieces in their defeat at the hands of the Canaries.

Almost 45th minute Vuckic used the referee’s advantage to the potential when striking a left-footed effort that struck the underside of the bar and post before leaving in form Ba unable to capitalise on the rebound.

That was to be it for the first half, Newcastle had created chances early on in the game but had failed to take full advantage of them. Ultimately two defensive errors had led to both West Brom goals but they had been clinical in front of goal, taking both which had been offered to them.

There was to be one change at half-time and that was Ryan Taylor replacing Davide Santon. At times West Brom had exploited the Newcastle’s left-hand side when Santon had been sucked too far forward. Whether this was the reason he was subbed or whether it was due to an injury Ryan Taylor took over at left-back for the rest of the match.

Ryan Taylor turned provider for Demba Be when he won the ball and passed to Demba Ba. Ba cut inside and fired an effort on goal.

The ball found its way into the back of the net once again but Newcastle’s joy was cut short when Demba Ba was in an offside position .

Newcastle’s defending went from bad to worse when Shane Long beat the Toon’s high line to find himself through on goal. Credit must go to Tim Krul who stood tall to force Long wide. The Irishman then hit the crossbar from an acute angle, and James Perch who forced Long to lift his shot off the floor by racing back to be on the line, but Newcastle were very lucky to see the scoreline remain 2-1.

The chances were coming thick and fast for both sides and it was Leon Best’s turn to join in on the act, shooting from twelve yards to force a save from Ben Foster.

Newcastle were being bullied by a West Brom side who were running high on confidence. The Magpies were letting West Brom past them too easily and Newcastle’s previous bite had seemed to have deserted them.

Leon Best was replaced by Hatem Ben Arfa in the 60th minute with the Frenchman slotting in behind Demba Ba. Best had had an uneffective night and Ben Arfa was the obvious candidate to replace him.

Newcastle were continuing to exert pressure on West Brom with the countless corners that they were winning. But the corners were amounting to nothing, for all the effort that the Magpies were putting in it seemed to be in no avail.

Hatem Ben Arfa was proving why he should be in the team with his neat trickery when he picked the ball up in midfield and ran towards goal only to have his shot blocked. The Frenchman added more finesse to the way the team were playing.

The third and final substitution of the match saw Gabriel Obertan replaced by Shola Ameobi. Obertan had a better game than Swansea last week but he still needs to up his game.

As the game entered its final fifteen minutes, West Brom used their work-rate in order to nullify any attack that Newcastle tried to muster. They brought several of their players back in order to defend and forced Newcastle into using the long ball to try and gain an equaliser.

However Ben Arfa’s introduction into the side in the 60th minute seemed to pay off when on eighty minutes he was challenged while he dribbled at goal. Demba Ba was on hand to smash home the loose ball from eighteen yards to make it 2-2.

Vuckic continued his impressive display when he had another effort on goal from thirty-five yards to force Ben Foster to tip it over the bar.

Newcastle’s good work was once again undone by the high line that they had fielded throughout the night and on the 84th minute when Paul Scharner prodded into the back of the net after good work from Shane Long and Peter Odemwingie in the build up.

There were to be final efforts on West Brom’s goal but this was all in vain as the final whistle went with the Magpies dropping three points they should have capitalised on. With the next three games: Bolton, Liverpool and Manchester United it leaves Newcastle in a weak position.

At times throughout the match, Newcastle had been the dominant side but had failed to exert that dominance over West Brom. All three of their goals came on the counter attack and exposed Newcastle’s defence. The defending of these goals had been poor and West Brom took their chances.

There is a lot for Pardew to rectify before these games and the main one must be the defence and how they were easily exposed last night.

Howay the lads!

Newcastle: Tim Krul; Danny Simpson, James Perch, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; Gabriel Obertan, Cheik Tiote, Haris Vuckic, Jonas Gutierrez; Demba Ba, Leon Best.

Subs: Rob Elliot, Ryan Taylor, Mike Williamson, Mehdi Abeid, Hatem Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi, Shola Ameobi.

West Brom: Ben Foster; Steven Reid, Gareth McAuley, Jonas Olsson, Nicky Shorey; Jerome Thomas, Paul Scharner, Yussuf Mulumbu, Chris Brunt; Shane Long, Peter Odemwingie.

Subs: Martin Fulop, Marc-Antoine Fortune, Graham Dorrans, Craig Dawson, Billy Jones, George Thorne, Simon Cox.

Attendance: 51,060

66 thoughts on “Ba humbug! Newcastle 2-3 West Brom

  1. Well, yah, this results didnt go our way and i am as hurt as anyone by this. But i just dont hope that people start to go overboard on this and start blaming the manager and owner for this. I heard a few people say that AP dosnt have a plan B, but i have to say that more than once this season, we have gone in from a bad first half and come out much better. That is down to AP’s man management and tactics and he couldnt really go much more offensive yesterday could he? In fact its because we were so offensive that we were hit on the counter.

    Tiote and Colo didnt look themselves though, and you have to wonder if their heads have been turned, if that is the case then i have trust in Carr to find us a replacement if needed, and we just have to wait and see.


  2. We have gone from a mean defence to one easy to score against, we are conceding for fun but im not laughing and Pardew persistence with Best when he is clearly off form is baffling.


  3. 2 Points from 18, wheels have definitely come off now. Need to get some height in the team for Bolton, coz if there scouts were at the Norwich and WBA games they’ll have seen how a midget back four constantly lost out, my back four would be Santon, Williamson, Coloccini and Taylor, Simpson and Perch are too small and there distribution is atrocious. Kevin Davies would have a field day against those two. Obertan as hard as he might work, looked to me to go hiding a bit in the second half and has to be taken out the firing line. He looks far too hesitant at times and his crossing or lack of it isn’t helping matters either. Against Bolton I’d be tempted to go with a solid midfield three of Tiote sitting behind Cabaye and the impressive Vuckic, with Gutierrez (Who has also been poor if late) on the left, with Ben Arfa given a relaxed right sided role giving him licence to get in the ball and cut in and make things happen. That leaves Ba up front to finish things off like he does, must be up there with best free transfers of all time. 13 goals already, I bet a £50m and £35M striker would be happy with half that amount. Anyway, that’s what I would do, Pardew its over to you…


  4. Theyll no doubt be an over reaction to our recent run but we got what we expected from from ManU, ManC & Chelsea games.

    We didn’t have a fit recognised centre half for the Norwich game. Any team in the PL would struggle with no centre halves. We had 10 men with Gosling getting sent off.

    Swansea we played okay but just couldn’t score. This happens sometimes…We still only had one recognised centre half.

    Last night we played poorly. Again this happens. Still only one recognised centre half & a centre midfield that included a fourth choice player in Vukic as cabeye, guthrie & gosling were out. Tiote & Vukic were both poor & as a result west brom bossed midfield & we resorted to too many long balls. Might just be me but every second ball went to a west brom player which didn’t help!!

    So yes I thinks there’s definitely quality issues in the squad but I also think there are exceptional circumstances ie the number of players out in key positions that have contributed towards the last three (poor) results…


  5. Krul-Raylor, Colo,willo, Simpson-Cabaye,Tiote-Jonas, Vukic, HBA-Ba

    Two sittning MF so we prevent them from coming to close. Bolton often plays off Davies. Any thoughts?


  6. Havent posted for a while not the best time to choose! 🙁

    Couple of observations really;
    Tiote for me was not at his best. IMpending transfer or still feeling the effects of the knee? Sceptic eh
    Colo seems to not like perch very much and reminded me of boumsong a bit last night in that he always had to cover perch much like bousmong did for bramable!
    What worries me is the defence seem to be good one game poor the next.

    All in all i think bolton is probably the biggest game of the season now and fortunately we are away from home and I think we suit playing away with the pace in the team. We need to play HBA with him on the pitch we keep the ball down with best and shola we tend to hoof it a bit.

    ANyway Howay the lads lets bounce back


  7. aye miserable times for toon fans. Definitely hit bad form. Not many good games coming up to change it then the AcN’s. We need to address the problem of only one striker and not much defensive cover, hopefully this blip will highlight it for Ashley come January..


  8. The wheels are falling off, 1 point from the last 3 winnable games is not good enough.
    When we lose Ba to ACON we could be in real trouble as no other player is chipping in with any goals.
    Best has not scored since Sept 😯
    Need a nippy goal scoring striker (a la Bellamy) and an established CB in Jan.


  9. That sounds like a gOod game , motd made it look like a good game as well but the game I attended last night at sjp was not a good game ! Obertan was our main attacking outlet ! Really !! No he run a lot ! Best was awfull and is not good enough as is perch tiote had a mare and colo looked injured . Worrying times with acon in january .


  10. Reet

    After a kip and a calm down I’ve had a little think 😐

    The first 20 minutes of that game we absolutely dominated, we passed the ball well, we looked organised and I was thinking – we’ve got this one in the bag.

    The first goal was out of nothing, it came from nowhere and this is where we lost the game because from then on we were chasing the game and under pressure.

    The fans were screaming for a goal and some organisation (and less mistakes) but this inturn put more pressure on the players which then inturn lead to more mistakes.

    Now I’m not saying for one minute we shouldn’t be shouting and screaming at the players… I personally am one of the many thousands with a hoarse voice this morning after doing so. What I am saying is Pardew has got a problem – he needs to teach the squad to be able to take the pressure of St James’ Park when we’re behind so maybe an away game is what we need at the minute.

    This is one problem that emerged last night, the other is Cheick Tiote.

    There is lot’s of comments so far about him having his head turned by ‘bigger’ clubs. I for one don’t believe it, watching him last night was painful but i also noticed he was ‘blowing out his arse’. Put into English – he was unfit, getting back to defend early in the second half he looked like he was running through treacle… What I’m saying is, don’t worry – he’ll be back to his normal self soon. 😉

    The one problem i haven’t been able to work out is why was coloccini so gash? I personally think because we were chasing the game and then pushing for a win we were playing with a dangerously high line (argued maybe rightly so) but this meant with WBA’s very pacey forwards they could get us on the break and the curley hair one isn’t exactly known for his speed.

    Perch has got a good tackle in him and he showed this a few occasions last night… good… well done. On the other hand on a few occasions he also got caught away from his man and he HAS to tighten up his marking.

    Vuckic has a brilliant shot on him and I think he’ll have a bright future here but again he was too far forward last night and e had a huge gap in midfield. he’s 19 though so howay… we’ll let him off with that one.

    Best had some awful first touches and the only decent thing i saw him do was just before half time he done some flamboyant skip thing with the ball. I know he can do better than that performance so I expect him to come good.

    Before we played Man City it was all about ‘Will Pardew be able to pick the team up after 3 big games’

    It’s looking like he hasn’t, I genuinely believe all the team didn’t give 100% last night and that’s all we ask from them.

    What is the problem? 👿


  11. To be fair Tiote is just back, & Colo looked like he has been rushed back. Agree Robert with your formation for bolton, but would prefer Santon to Raylor. Also our squad although thin in places was set up for top 10 finish not for top 6. My dissapointment with the poor run is that it takes the pressure off to strengthen for a challange for europe.


  12. Games remaining until we lose Ba & Tiote, given Tiote is still here, although we might have added a striker, early Jan.

    Bolton (a) 30-Dec
    Liverpool (a) Wed 4-Jan
    Man United (h) Sat 07-Jan
    QPR (h) 15-Jan

    then we need to worry about him being away for a few weeks 😯


  13. Mind you prem its better we fidn the weaknesses now so gives us an opportunity to strengthen…..however i am fearful that we will only lose players in jan than gain them


  14. I think we also need to give credit to WestBrom. They look a decent side.

    on last nights evidence – if we can get 25m for Tiote we should snap their hands off and put in a 7m bid for Mulumbu

    Ive seen us play WB 6 times now in the last few seasons (Championship, Cup and Prem)…. and maybe apart from the 3-3 aberration in May, they’ve looked better than us every time


  15. so by my reckoning it’ll be 5pts from a possible 30 by Jan 16th. 😯 😥

    I’ll take a 12th-15th finish now if offered. This could all change if we sign but going off previous windows, i’ll say nowt..

    Hopefully we’ll sign some quality soon thats obviously need…


  16. What a frustrating night. At least it wasn’t too cold!

    I have to say I was slightly confused by our decision to play a high defensive line against a team with two incredibly fast strikers AND for us not to press the through balls that supply them. I also looked on in horror as the marking for the last two goals was none existent. What happened to sticking to your man? Perch had a decent game but again his concentration at a critical moment, just like the Drogba header against Chelsea, let him down.

    On the positive side I did like the look of Vuckic going forward and the game was crying out for Ben Arfa to come and put his foot on the ball.

    On the whole it was a very enjoyable game to watch but unfortunately the result went the wrong way.

    Ba humbug indeed!


  17. “Derek we look like we might qualify for Europe at this rate. Tell Alan to go on a bloody losing streak! We can’t finish higher than 10th or the players will want improved contracts!”.

    Mike Ashley November 2011. 😯
    (this extract was received from a phone hacking journalist from the NOTW) 😯


  18. We`re playing with an injured Collo and an unfit Tiote at the moment non the wonder we are struggling. The answer is to beef up the squad in january no excuses and no fantasy stories from lambsarse and the fat man. The alternative is fact we will be dragged into a relegation battle. Confidence is a massive thing in football and you can visably see it draining from the players. I must admit Collo must be having second thoughts on signing a new contract having to play with a sunday league player like Perch.
    I don`t blame Pardew, I think he is doing well with what he has got but what he has got is not enough. Injuries and suspensions are always going to happen but we are not strong enough absorb these problems fatman, do something about it before it`s too late!


  19. I’ll be furious if we don’t buy another striker in january, there is just no excuse for it. Especially with BA unavailable who’s going to score goals ??


  20. we got what we deserved. Colo’s defending was a calamity, Best yet again stands about for most of the game, I always agreed with Trapatonni that apart from his goals he does nowt for the team. I couldn’t believe that I welcomed Strolla coming on to replace him.
    If we don’t get a good striker in we’re really fuked shen we lose Ba to ACON.
    I cant believe that some people are trying to blame Perch on Colo’s collapse.


  21. The problem is confidence. The bad run has created a team trying just too hard instead of keeping controlled possession. In that dept. we missed Cabaye big time. Although Perch is actually playing well he has changed the dynamic of the defence and the trust and understanding in each other is not there any more. Lets not panic though. These things can change around just as quickly – but we do need a win to get kick started again.

    As has been said – maybe this run of results might focus Ashley’s thoughts a bit on the additions that need to be made. Certainly when we were doing well, improving the squad would not have appeared so vital to him as it does now. Whatever, it is important that we continue to give the players our full backing from a confidence angle.


  22. Collo is obviously injured and you cannot carry a player like Perch, when you are struggling yourself. I am not critising Perch for the sake of it. Watch him he loses his man time after time like he did for the drogba goal his positional play also leaves a lot to be desired. He is not a central defender and is not physically strong enough to play centre back. This is not having a go at the lad it is just stating the facts as I see them. I understand that Pardew has limited resources and must play him but it is no surprise when we end up leaking goals.


  23. Big D-meister

    Perch was def the better CB on the day – strayed from his man too much for my liking but he put some killer challenges.

    If we got ahead in the game i would of been confident for us to sit deep and take what they could fire at us.

    The problem was the high line we played gainst their quick forwards. That and –

    – Unfit Tiote
    – Below Par Colo
    – Disgraceful passing
    – Not being able to handle pressure.

    Our midfield was absolutley dominated – Tiote was by himself.

    Although Vuckic had some good shots Cabaye def needs to be played at Bolton to plug the gaps. Vuckic contributed very little with repect to holding midfield.

    I was sick of screaming for the team to find som space although Tiotes passing was poor he did actually have very little options… what happened to pass and move.. they were statues! 😕


  24. Dissapointed last night really bad result we need a change against Bolton the front 2 dont reall work in our favour, long ball play is rubbish. my team for Bolton

    Simpson Williamson Colo Santon

    Tiote Cabaye

    Obertan Vuckic Ben Arfa


    4- 2 – 3-1

    Ben arfa vuckic and obertan free roles.

    What does everyone think.


  25. Ok Colo was nos having his best game yesterday but there was too much space between lines and when you are 30 metres in front of the goalkeeper, it is normal that you are set of speed by a Long or aOdemwngie! Perch is not to blame too. Yesterday our tactics were poor, and that’s the case since our match against Chelsea. Too much space in defense! The coach must react because at this rhythm, we we are going to lose everything! Im sorry but Perch Simpson Shola Best Obertan Lovenkrands are championship or mid tables players at the best! We need to buy a striker a central defender and a winger, and Pardew should give a chance to Shane Ferguson at left back, Santon at right back, and give a chance to Vuckic, Abeid, Sameobi and he sould put Hba in the starting 11! Our wingers do not scores, cannot do goods crosses do not pass and are not creative, Jonas is indisputable for his defensive thus we have to replace obertan for a player who can be decisive because our wingers are now our weakest link I think!


  26. Although I am a Guta fan I think he would benefit from a break at the minute he is not giving us very much. Keep Vuckic in he will only develop with experience. Looks a player in the making with a physical presence.


  27. Everyone tiptoes around our real problems – he’s not fit, he’s just coming back, it was his debut etc etc. The real painful truth is that Simpson, Perch, Raylor, Best and Obertan are not good enough for the Premier League and that is half our team!


  28. I stick with what I said last night , we have a good side here and I think we will turn this bad run of form around starting on boxing day away to Bolton.


  29. Well I really hope Ashley and Lambastard have a re think after last night coz if they think we can wait til the summer for a striker then Newcastle will finish mid to lower end of the league!!
    Yes spend money on the defence because Colo was poor last night and Perch was just plain rubbish, out of position for all of their goals.
    Tiote looked lost without Cabaye, and Best was hopeless.
    Yet again we had to depend on Ba to score our goals, but if we dont get someone in in Jan to cover him then forget it, it will end another very average season for Newcastle after such a promising start.
    This isn’t over reaction or negativity, we have to stop making excuses now, we have 2 points from a possible 18!! our last 2 games have been at home against very beatable opposition, and last night we were only really missing Taylor and Cabaye from what would be our strongest starting 11.
    I’ve said before, I don’t mind Ashley recouping some of his money from the sale of players, even if he said as much as 50%. But the rest MUST be reinvested on new players and not this crack of, well you can have a CB or a CF but not both.
    I’m not encouraging panic buys, I think they have identified enough targets to bring some of them in.


  30. dave spot on mate…play the same as u…but wouldnt play jonas give him a break…play oberton on the left and ben arfa on the right…we need goals from others….vuckic will get goals he looks are best bet already..did more in 1 game then jonas has done in the last 6 and he cant score goals..oberton and ben arfa like cutting playing them left and right will make them shoot towards goal..the sick joke is ba is getting better…


  31. OK I’m a Baggies fan – but only 1 or 2 comments have given us credit for a good performance. I know this is a Toon site but sometimes a team can come and play against you in a way that is difficult to counter.
    I think our speed on the counter was the key but we also looked very comfortable in possession all over the pitch.
    I’m not one to over analyise but this was a great game of football and our 2 clubs deserve a lot of credit for the way we’re adapting to life amongst the ‘big boys’.
    Good luck for the rest of the season – you’re playing some great stuff and deserve to be where you are!


  32. This run of games could be a bit of a blessing in disguise. It shows Ashley that we need players in the door if this squad is going to be strong enough to compete. Hopefully now, he will be a bit more willing to release some funds in January.

    If we had beat Swansea and WBA, he would probably look at that and say we are in a strong position and doing fine without key players…

    Time will tell…


  33. sharpy17

    Agreed mate in all honesty we need 3 players at least in jan

    CB – Douglas or vorthogen

    Striker – De Jong

    Winger – Hoilett


  34. Does anyone think that a settled side in our unbeaten run has cost us? The players now look ‘burnt out’ after having played so many games some of them have become injured. Last night a few of the players looked off the pace and several look like they now need a break to recover. They played solidly together for the first 11 games or so, keeping their places in tough games etc. Maybe that is having an effect as the team didn’t look up to speed last night.

    Injuries haven’t helped at all, nor has suspensions. That way Pardew has lost a sense of rotation that he can have in the team.

    Tiote looked poor last night, we missed Cabaye alongside him. Ben Arfa showed some good stuff but it will still take a while before he gets back to his best.

    Vuckic looks a very intelligent player, didn’t seem to be daunted by the west brom players. Not afraid to take shots and was unlucky not to see his name on the scoresheet. Think we could either try him on the wings or perhaps behind Demba Ba?


  35. troy@20 hehehe 😉
    tonytoon@29 confidence is a factor i am sure but having a small fragile squad with some championship standard players is a bigger factor , dont hold your breath for ashleys focus being on anything but making money gambling and food .
    alex@32 i think our fullbacks would get murdered and cabaye could have little impact from being that deep to attacking away from home and im not sure vuctic or benarfa are midfielders they are more forwards so we would be playing 4..2..1..3.. or you kevin keegan !
    my team would be
    r taylor colo streete santon
    obertan cabaye tiote spidey
    ben arfa
    vuctic to come on for ben arfa or ba as a sub !


  36. At Drewks@39… no offence but we had one slip up out of the ‘big boys’

    you’s have been a ‘yo-yo’ team for years.

    Yes is this is a toon site so obviously we’re going to analyse our team… so much went wrong with it that we haven’t got time to analyse yours as well. 😆

    Yes you got us on the break… but that was because we held a higher line than usual… we know our team and we can see that they didn’t play to their best… WBA was better than us on the night… but only for the night. On a different night with the exact same team playing at their full strengths I have no doubt we would have beaten you.
    I’m not trying to wind you up it’s just my opinion… well done though.

    Good game for the neutral… poo for us.


  37. Alex @ 41 I would take Holliett in a heartbeat , looks like a real prospect , havent seen much of the ajx defender but I have a feeling he might go to Arsenal or another club like that nut he does look like a good player. Havent seen the two others play so cant comment. Do feel we need another fullback as well


  38. bb33 giorgio35 , exactly .
    sharpy17@ 37 thought you said theres no problem ashley will spend big in january or you having a change of mind !


  39. at Keith,

    Our full backs will be alright against Bolton. Lets be honest what do our wingers offer in terms of creativity. i think Cabaye keeps the shape of the team so although playing deep he can still pull the strings. i wish i was Keegan haha.

    @ John toon – Think we have a chance with Douglas to be honest more than Vorthogen as he is out of contract in the Summer, Luuk De Jong is brilliant only 21 he can play on his own up front out wide has an unexpected turn of pace aswel, however i dont think we will get hoilett or a left back as much as it is needed, if Simpson goes then we might have 1. to be honest the only way we will get those players is if we sell Tiote.


  40. Nobby- 44 –
    no problem matey …. I enjoy reading different views on different forums – especially when we have a good result!
    Seriously tho – you’re a good club and I wish you well, but IMO there just maybe too much expectation up there after the fantastic start you guys have had. Surely you’ll be satisfied to finish the season where you are now?

    Again – just my opinion – good luck….ok, I’ll bugger off now!!


  41. drewks@39 , i said it last night the better team won shane long 6 mill what a steal and odinwenge is a real threat i would have them both in black and white but our owner is tight as fuck so that will never happen .


  42. It was the tactics last night that lost us the game. We scored 2 goals which should be enough to win any game. Time and time yesterday the high line kept getting caught out. The threat was obvious but Pardew did not change to address the clear threat. He just did not respond.

    We play Liverpool and united before Ba goes but even with Ba Liverpool and United are likely going to be defeats so there are only two realistic games we could win. There after even an Everton, Blackburn, Fulham are going to be 50/50 games luck will be needed. The wheels have come off.

    2 from 18 points I think is one of the worst records recently.


  43. Zoe – yes we have injuries but again I think we are looking for excuses. We only played 15-16 games (including cup games) before City ended our unbeaten run and lets not forget we had 2 international breaks in that time.
    These players should be conditioned to cope with 40 odd games a season.
    But to reiterate my initial point, we need to bring in the players to cover these injuries, and at the same time, clear out the players from the current squad that aren’t going to play.


  44. Our bubble has burst! It was always going to happen! The worrying thing is that the next three games are hard and we should of done better with some of the more ‘winnable’ games. Now it’s going to be a hard January. We have little or no depth! Once Ba goes we will really struggle to score! Whoever comes in January will still have to adapt! HBA Should start to have a more permanent role now in my opinion!


  45. alex@48 me to keegan keegan 😉 it would be very attacking thats for sure ! you are right our wingers dont offer much .
    drewks@49 i would be over the moon to finish were we are and think most fans are simalarly grounded just a small minority think perch shola best can get us in to europe !


  46. Sharpy: I agree about needing to bring players in, hopefully we can get some in the transfer window to shore up the squad. I think Tiote’s head has been turned, I’m not surprised at all. If that is the case then that may have an effect on the team, I’m not using it as an excuse but if his head has been turned then it may bring those in the dressing room down.


  47. Long with his pace would have made a difference to our attack. Shame we would`nt shell out the money for him in the summer. Ba has had a dream start but I think him and Long would have complimented each other more than a static Best. My brother in law lives in Sheffield and has watched Tavernier at Wednesday, he says the Wednesday fans rave about him. Is it not time to bring him back and give him a chance? I think that Simpson`s distribution is dire and the opta stats back that up


  48. Keith, feel free to review my previous comments but you will find that I have never predicted Ashley will spend big… because I’ve never believed he will. I have however suggested he will bring in 3 players in Jan but never put a figure on it.
    I’m simply saying now, that those players HAVE to be the right player. Particularly a striker, and one who can come in and start scoring straight away coz with Ba away, I can’t see where our goals will come from.

    Zoe – I think your right, the transfer speculation is clearly on Tiotes mind, hence him coming out and saying he’s flattered. But I think he also missed Cabaye last night. Haris played really well last night for his debut, but I can’t imagine he and Tiote have enough experience playing together, and I don’t think Haris was as helpful defensively as Cabaye is.


  49. Dave@27 spot on mate, Colo had a shocker but seems immune from criticism……………he’s still feckin class though 😉


  50. Alex – defo Hoillett and De Jong, but I think a CB who knows the league may be more beneficial in Jan. I rate Douglas and the other kid but if were looking for a centre back to come straight in I think Cahill or Samba would be better options for Jan then Douglas in the summer


  51. Sharpy: yeah I agree. If Cabaye was there we might have been able to have stopped West Brom in the middle of the park. Certainly when he comes back that will be a big relief for us, we missed him and I think Tiote was lost without him beside him.


  52. Lads, lads, lads and lasses if there’s any on.

    Let’s not get into a state over results that were going to happen at some stage, especially with the chopping and changing we have had to do in such a short space of time.

    We have had some bad luck mainly and one game last night we collectively didn’t get to grips with the game.

    W.B.A were basically shit, they are mediocre but they also have players that can kill you on the right day in odemwingie, Long and Brunt.

    It happened last night to us because even though we were well under par , we still made them look what they are and that’s second best.

    We committed the cardinal sin of going to sleep at the back and it cost us big time.

    I’m being serious here …..At no stage in that match did I think for one minute we would get beat but of course shit does happen.

    They had 4 attempts on target and scored 3 and missed a sitter, and all of them were down to defensive lapses.

    Colo must have had a virus or something because no way in hell would he get done like that on his full game.

    If I was a betting man, I would have said that we rolled over in that game for some betting syndicate lol

    Ok I was being daft there but that’s how the game seemed in all honesty but basically it was down to one of those nights where everything they did came off and everything we did didn’t work out.

    I noticed the ref gave us next to ball all like but I won’t dwell on that.

    All in all, we aren’t carrying the slice of luck that every team needs and it happens but won’t always happen as swings and roundabouts, six of one, half a dozen of the other are the order of the season.

    Keep smiling and let’s not dissect anyone over it because one thing we didn’t lack and that was the fight till the end, which is a good omen when things like this happen because after conceding like that, it would have been easy for any team to drop their heads by thinking this isn’t their night but they didn’t . 😀


  53. Keith, I think the club will bring in the required players needed to finish the season but now we have one option better and that is the emergence into man hood of a certain Haris Vuckic, who can play in a few positions.


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