It’s getting Ober the top

Give him a chance?
Once again a portion of the “loyal” “fans” at St James Park booed off our right winger Gabriel Obertan today after his performance against West Bromwich Albion.

It’s just not on!

It’s honestly just utter lunacy; does anybody think that’ll actually help him play better? A player who obviously thrives on confidence, which has been confirmed by Alan Pardew, someone who sees him play virtually EVERY DAY!

Does he try? Of course he does, he tries his bloody heart out. He was up and down that line all game, trying to do something with the ball every time he got it, sometimes even too hard because of the people he had on his back.

His driving run won the free kick which was dispatched by the magnificent Demba Ba, he was the man of the first half for me, by a distance. Why? Because he made some great runs and gave Simpson an option every time he had the ball, he won corners and most of all he gave 100% which cannot be said for the whole team.

I agree, he’s not amazing, but for gods sake we bought him for £3 million, he’s hardly going to be Lionel Messi is he? He’s a young lad who needs to be given a chance, he wasn’t given that chance at Manchester United, because of their fans reaction to his efforts, and I fear the same thing will happen here. I never thought I’d compare our fans to the prawn sarnie expecting idiots from Manchester/London/Torquay/Asia/Anybloodywhere.

It’s no surprise that Gabriel Obertan’s best performance in a Newcastle shirt come away at Stoke, where the away fans supported him and weren’t jumping on his back from minute one like some of the home crowd are at the moment. He also tore strips off Patrice Evra at Old Trafford before tiring, once again, an away game.

In my opinion Obertan has been the shining light of the first half of both of our last two games. He always seems to tire in the second half, which is a worry but in this busy period a lot of players will.

He looked dangerous against Swansea but both centre forward went to the near post too often and his crosses evaded them, but he was looking very sharp before being replaced. Tonight he won the free kick for Ba and was a constant out ball. He was also often there to cover Simpson if he was getting done for pace, he wasn’t the best player on the pitch, but he was nowhere near the worst.

I’ve seen calls for him to be dropped to the reserves, or others saying he should play in the Championship. Aye, class idea that, who we going to play in his position? Ryan Taylor, someone who we need further back, that lacks pace and isn’t really a fan favourite. Sammy Ameobi, someone who is far too young and lacks experience and he also struggles to cross.

We’re hardly blessed with right wingers, I may want him dropped if we had Cristiano Ronaldo sat on the bench, but we haven’t so why don’t we ALL get behind him and give him a chance in the next game? To make it worse he looked gutted when he sat on the bench after being booed off, I’m sure he’ll be the first to try and beat his man vs Bolton. Well done, “fans”.

Just ask yourself:

Is it Obertan’s fault that we can’t win a back post header?
Is it Obertan’s fault that Coloccini cannot keep up with Long?
Is it Obertan’s fault that we played a high line?
Is it Obertan’s fault that Ben Foster saved about three crackers from Haris Vuckic?

Is it hell, so why is he being made the scapegoat?!

186 thoughts on “It’s getting Ober the top

  1. Newkie funny enough I have always said that Tino cost us the league that yr, with trying to bed him in at that time, I did like him and he was exciting but there is a few others I would pick ahead of him when I think of top strikers at the club 😉

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  2. Martyn, I don’t know what game you’re watching because he seems to work hard to me. My criticism is his end product, not his lack of effort. His end product can’t be helped by the likes of you if you’re the sort who thinks he knows what he should be doing and when and then screaming abuse when he does something else. If you’ve ever played football, you’ll understand you can do it so much better with support rather than criticism. Yeah the fans pay the wages, and have a right to shout if a player is not putting in the effort. But not when he is not doing exactly what they think he should be doing. Anyway, I haven’t looked but surely the OPTA stats would settle the question about how much effort he puts in.

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  3. stats prove one thing……. stats mean jack shit………….

    not saying asprilla was good im saying we get behind players who try and even sooo called fav’s take shit if they dont look like they do or pull out of challanges…

    night boys going to rest need to be up early me owld mams coming to see me the morra… bought her some fairy washing up liquid to spoil her…. filled the washing basket to she wont be bored bless her

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  4. BLACKLEY & BROWNLIE
    December 23, 2011 at 21:06
    Big Dave – I couldn’t criticise anyone for a lack of effort. I never see a lack of effort in the EPL

    u said english premier matey

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  5. B+B I have watched Gabby at times he looks lost and lots of times he doesn’t really looks as if he is giving it 100% , same as Best even Trapatoni said the same about him, so he must think that Best could do a lot more for the team.
    when I watch Jonas I know he isn’t the best winger in the world but he IMO is one of the hardest workers in the team and for that he will always get my backing. I accept that you think he puts a shift in but I dont think he puts a full shift in, admittedly he might cover a lot of ground but that doesn’t tell the full story for me.
    Nolan last year was another player that very rarely gave 100% and thats being kind to the lazy fuker

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  6. u said no players in the premier league show lack of effort

    Big statement mate but u believe it stand by it…. i dont but that dosent mean am right

    we love opinions its what makes the night on a blog gives us something to talk about

    to answer your question who dosent give 100 percent at our club

    shola
    ranger
    oberton
    and i hate to say it iv seen games were its either his fitness or drive but the young boy from everton thats a 50 50 one tho (gosling)

    night night everyone

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  7. I must say I completely understand the frustration with Obertan as I am one of them…he could be a dud….

    I think remedy for the time being is definitely SUB him…. I am amazed that a player like HBA DONE NOT get the chance to play full time yet BEST does SAMMY gets the nod in front of him as a sub on many games its ridiculous…

    He would be killer at RW but I hear he doesn’t want to play there a bit childish in my view if that is the case but never-mind….for me right this minute on current form Obertan is not the Person RW sorry but he is not…

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  8. I once again have blind faith for Jan but I am preparing myself for the worst as in mediocre CDM and a mediocre CB and i reckon that’s where our Christmas presents will end…

    when we are in a DIRE need of a world class: RW, CB, LB, and ST

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  9. To be honest im not surprised we bood him off, he’s been absolutely dreadful for us. Its actually hard to believe what team he played for before us!!

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  10. Newkie 150, I think it is unfair to say Asprilla was part of the problem that cost us the title. I think you need to watch that season again from January. Gary Neville’s two footed challenge at Old Trafford on Keith Gillespie that went unpunished (should have been a straight red) and put Gillespie out for the remainder of the season was the problem. From there on in the side became lop sided with no option on the right and teams read us like a book by nullifying our attacks that were all coming from the left. It was not Asprilla’s fault and we did not change to accomodate him, it was forced upon the team due to a lack of attacking threat from the right. I also blame Keegan for scrapping the reserves which did not help when we had to deal with injuries and through players in who were not match fit.

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  11. Blenkers-I’m not saying it was all Asprilla, but for a talented player he didn’t always put a good shift in. Like you said, injuries also played a part, and the main person I’d blame was Keegan himself for orchestrating what were some pretty bad transfers 😕

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  12. @dan

    No individual player was booed off. I believe that was established earlier on during this thread.

    It was just Jobey and his journalistic sensationalised headlines. 😛

    Mind, he hasnt been on to defend his position. 🙄

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  13. Troy – I’ve not heard any booing per se, but I have heard jeering from the crowd towards him, and the ironic cheers when he gets taken off. That kind of thing. It’s not just Jobey who categorizes that as booing – the local and national press have picked up on it and publish it in the same manner aswell. It’s semantics…

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  14. @Toonsy

    His opening paragraph;

    Once again a portion of the “loyal” “fans” at St James Park booed off our right winger Gabriel Obertan today after his performance against
    West Bromwich Albion.

    The article makes the reader believe that Obertan is getting terrible treatment from the fans.

    I have been to every game this season and I have never heard anyone Boo any player.
    Of course frustration is heard when he loses the ball but it’s no different to when Jonas loses it.
    There’s nothing wring when people shout, pass! Shoot! Or whatever and then groan when it doesn’t come off. That’s not Booing and should not be categorised as such.

    The fact that the national and local press are sensationalising something that really isn’t there doesn’t mean jobey should do it.

    I have asked bloggers whether I was mistaken and simply could not hear it from my seating position and all the bloggers who responded agreed with me.

    I understand Jobey trying to defend Obertan if his belief is that he is being targeted, but I believe he is misinformed and it misleads fans who don’t go to the games who are getting the impression that there’s a section of the crowd Booing the player and singling him out for abuse which simply isn’t true.

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  15. His first line of the next paragraph is;

    It’s honestly just utter lunacy.

    What is utter lunacy? Groaning over a missed pass or giving the ball away? Or is he referring to booing which his article refers to but no one has heard?

    I can honestly say I haven’t heard any section of the crowd boo Obertan where I thought that was targeted bullying that he would pick up on.

    Toonsy you suggest it’s semantics – well anyone can play on the word Boo and interpret whichever way they want but it’s my opinion that Jobey has called it wrong and mislead bloggers who don’t go to the games.

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  16. They aren’t always boos, but I’d categorise sarcastic applause, and constant jeers with that. I’ve not been able to go lately due to college and work. But I watched the las two and even the no Mark foreign tv commentator picked up on his rough treatement. Perch got the same, his first two tackles were greated with ironic cheers, which was just shitty.

    Obertan was jeered throughout even for trying something different. If Colo tried to beat a man and didn’t people would let him off and forgive him for trying, but people were on Obertans back from the start, which doesn’t help for a winger.

    I’m obviously not saying it’s all fans but he gets some unwarranted stick and is blamed for everything no matter how well he’s played. That as well as sarcastic applause as he was taken off isn’t going to help. And you made the point about it not being targeted, if it’s just to certain player it is. Re Obertans sub, and Perch and Obertans performancee.

    I’ve seen plenty of people confirm that he got rough treatment, which is why I wrote this. It may not have been near you, but it was near others and picked upnby foreign tv.

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  17. Jobey @ 176 – I agree. I call it a palpable and excrutiating air of impatience when he doesn’t do what a large minority of the crowd want him to do when they want him to do it. The longer he has the ball, the more the agitation grows. He is being unreasonably picked on IMO. Some say well he gets paid enough and I pay my money so I can pick on him if I want. I don’t think that attitude is justifiable when the lad is trying his best, and isn’t doing too badly.

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  18. @B&B and Jobey

    No different from Jonas or Perch IMO .
    Instinctive reactive groans is not targeted abuse.

    There’s no getting away from it your article is misleading.

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  19. Troy – Instinctive reactive groans when a particular out of favour player gets the ball is not targeted abuse in your book? I think you make Jobey’s point anyway. Journalists will always use “boo” when the alternative is “instinctive reactive groans”.

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  20. @B&B

    So you think he gets any worse groans than Perch, Tiote or Jonas when they lose the ball?
    Everyone groans when Tiote dithers on the ball having just done a fantastic interception. No one interprets that as targeted abuse or Boo’s.
    So instictive reactive groans is abuse?

    Its nigh on impossible not to instinctively groan in the heat of the moment.
    It’s not boo boys targeting a player though.

    Jobey highlights in his article that Obertan was Booed off the pitch, yet you in an earlier post said it was generalised boo’s for the team.
    Is Jobey exaggerating or have you got it wrong?

    My whole point of bringing this up was simply to down play the sensationist slant Jobey makes in his article which I believe misleads the reader and misinforms those who don’t go to the match.

    Now open your High School Musical birthday card I bought you and admire Sharpey. 😛

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  21. @B&B

    So you think he gets any worse groans than Perch, Tiote or Jonas when they lose the ball?
    Everyone groans when Tiote dithers on the ball having just done a fantastic interception. No one interprets that as targeted abuse or Boo’s.
    So instictive reactive groans is abuse?

    Its nigh on impossible not to instinctively groan in the heat of the moment.
    It’s not boo boys targeting a player though.

    Jobey highlights in his article that Obertan was Booed off the pitch, yet you in an earlier post said it was generalised boo’s for the team.
    Is Jobey exaggerating or have you got it wrong?

    My whole point of bringing this up was simply to down play the sensationist slant Jobey makes in his article which I believe misleads the reader and misinforms those who don’t go to the match.

    Now open your High School Musical birthday card I bought you and admire Sharpey. 😛

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  22. Troy – Its not when he loses the ball. The difference is that Ober gets a torrent of f***ing this, f*** that, F***ing move it, what the f***, f***ing pass it, where the F*** you going – long before he has lost it. He picks up the ball and the impatience grows. Usually when a winger picks it up the excitement grows.
    I don’t recall Ober being booed off the pitch. However, have you never noticed the frustration that arises whenever he has more than two or three touches, or doesn’t do what the crowd want when they want it, irrespective of whether he has lost possession?

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  23. @B&B

    No different to Perch, Tiote or Jonas.

    What the F??? You doing Tiote?! Just Release it!
    Jonas you are gonna lose it!
    F?????? Cross it Jonas! Where you going!?

    The answer is that the fans naturally do it to those who make mistakes. It’s natural and instinctive. It just so happens Obertan makes most mistakes but it’s not deliberate targeting.

    I rest my case.

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