This is Anfield! It's also a dump!

Welcome one and all to the ‘Game On’ article which will take up through every twist and turn of the match this evening as Newcastle take on Liverpool at Anfield.

Haris Vuckic is handed a start and will play just behind lone striker Demba Ba which may come as a surprise to some who expected to see Hatem Ben Arfa start the match after an impressive scoring cameo against Bolton at the weekend. Other than that, Newcastle are unchanged. Ryan Taylor retains his place and even though Davide Santon is fit to return he must make do with a space on the bench.

For Liverpool it’s an ex-Newcastle forward line as Craig Bellamy is paired with Andy Carroll in the absence of Luis Suarez who sits out the match courtesy of a one game suspension for his contemptuous hand gesture at Craven Cottage a few weeks back. Steven Gerrard takes a place on the bench while another former Mag, Jose Enrique, starts.

For a bit more information why give Shamrock’s most excellent match preview a look by clicking here. It’s always a good read and is a good way of spending a few minutes before the big kick-off.

If you can fins a decent stream then please share it with your fellow Mags. The game is on Sky this evening but not everyone has it or is in the pub so if you can find a good’un make you you leave a link to it below.

Right now though, it’s Game On!

Howay the lads!

Liverpool: Pepe Reina; Glen Johnson, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Jose Enrique; Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam, Jay Spearing, Stewart Downing; Andy Carroll, Craig Bellamy

Subs: Alexander Doni, Martin Kelly, Jamie Carragher, Jonjo Shelvey, Maxi Rodriguez, Steven Gerrard, Dirk Kuyt

Newcastle:Tim Krul; Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini, Ryan Taylor; Gabriel Obertan, Cheik Tiote, Yohan Cabaye, Jonas Gutierrez; Haris Vuckic; Demba Ba

Subs: Rob Elliot, Davide Santon, James Perch, Hatem Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi, Shola Ameobi, Leon Best

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466 Comments

  1. 1
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    We need to make the most of gerrard being on the bench for first 60 mins. Vuckic could be our gerrard tonight!

  2. 2
    Johno toon says:

    Bit of a weird.one vuckic starting! Come on the toon!!!!

  3. 3
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Tension! :shock:

  4. 4
    CC says:

    Could see us bossing that midfield…

  5. 5
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Love the decision to play Vuckic. Personally I would also have played Ben Arfa as well and went narrow tonight. The Bindippers have the england right back and the best left back in the premiership so can’t see us getting much joy out wide. Whether it was Jonas or Obertan benched it wouldn’t have been a big deal.
    But hey bring it on. Toon for life

  6. 6
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Links anyone? Bloody babysitting aren’t I.

  7. 7
    icedog says:

    see l/pool have went with bells pace,instead of kuyt up front hope simpson has his running boots on

    hwtl :grin:

  8. 8
    rinton man says:

    That link is spam..

  9. 9
    wolfie says:

    http://nutjob.eu/

    Here you go penalty spot it’ll be a cracking stream.

  10. 10
    toonsy says:

    Just removed the spam links. Bastards :)

  11. 11
    wolfie says:

    ICEDOG, don;t worry about Simpson, he’s had his legs cut off and some of them running spring thinks stuck on, so pace won’t be a problem but tackling could be. :shock:

  12. 12
    Axel says:

    Its going to be a big scoring game ,with that line up its our’s .We will boss the midfield 4-2 for the Toon

  13. 13
    roshan MAGPIE says:

    LIKED THIS TEAM

  14. 14
    Penalty-Spot says:

    @WOLFIE

    Cheers mate. Diamond.

  15. 15
    wolfie says:

    http://www.spam-uk.com/

    Damn it Toonsy, I’ve put spam in by an accident, can you remove it. :lol:

  16. 16
    toonsy says:

    Surprised to see Haris starting but not surprised to see Benny on the bench. The clues were there about “nearly being 100%” so I’m surprised by that. Mind I thought it would be Best and Ba.

    Think Haris will give us much more presence up front anyway due to his size. Plus he has Tiote and Cabaye behind unlike West Brom so has a license to go forward and unleash a few shots on goal :)

  17. 17
    wolfie says:

    No probs penalty. :grin:

  18. 18
  19. 19
    Big Dave says:

    I really hope young Vuckic has a cracking game and nort just for our benefit but for himsel aswell

  20. 20
    toonsy says:

    Reet just off for a mooch to see how many dummies have been spat over the decision not to start Ben Arfa. Back soon ;)

  21. 21
    BeeGuy says:

    At least in USA: http://www.firstrow.net

  22. 22
    icedog says:

    DAVE one thing for sure he will have a pop if chance comes unlike best ;)

  23. 23
    wolfie says:

    Toonsy ,as Pardew said in pre match, he liked the way Vuckic played against West Brom and he said he hasn’t had much game time but looked good and he feels he’s worth a chance.

    I think he’s playing it clever with Ben Arfa ,easing him into it which I agree with cos I think he can be a massive game changer should we need it in the final 30 mins of a game.
    With the injury he had it’s a better bet doing it like this, in my opinion.

  24. 24
    Big Dave says:

    I have sky go on and its about 20 -30 secs behind that link of Wolfies :???:

  25. 25
    Sime says:

    Ahh, the Liverpool appreciation society in the sky studio tonight.

  26. 26
    toonsy says:

    Dave – Wolfie’s link is direct from Sky. It only streams on there when the match is on Sky but it’s always always bang on :)

  27. 27
    hitman says:

    COME ON LETS FKIN HAV IT

  28. 28
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy you would think if you have Sky go you would get it round the same time instead of 20 scs or so behind :evil: so I have both on :cool: incase the stream goes down

  29. 29
    AlanPardewProject says:

    Wolfie – totally agree about Pardew easing Ben Arfa back, also giving Vuckic a chance to continue his good play from the west brom game. Dont think Ben Arfa is fit for 90 mins yet, so letting Vuckic play 60 or so is dandy me thinks.

  30. 30
    Big Dave says:

    Lets get it on
    Howay the Lads

  31. 31
    toonsy says:

    Howay then lads. Fuck em up :)

  32. 32
    toonsy says:

    Bright start for Liverpool

  33. 33
    Big Dave says:

    the bindippers are coming out with all guns blazing

  34. 34
    toonsy says:

    Hopefully Henderson bricks it against us again :razz:

  35. 35
    toonsy says:

    Ba wasn’t offside there mind

  36. 36
    jay jay says:

    Think we will get slaughtered :cry:

  37. 37
  38. 38
    HBA39 says:

    i think we need to avoid long ball on ba because Agger and Skrtel are really strong in the air

  39. 39
    jay jay says:

    RIP morale officer

  40. 40
    Munich Mag says:

    Agger looks dangerous, we need to stop him running at our defence like that

  41. 41
    Big Dave says:

    Jose doesn’t suit red :lol:

  42. 42
    Munich Mag says:

    Two men sitting in front of Enrique is showing him too much respect imo

  43. 43
    Munich Mag says:

    Is Cabaye playing ?

  44. 44
    toonsy says:

    MM – Aye indeed he is

  45. 45
    M says:

    bloody hell liverpool really like to press the ball

  46. 46
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Fast start. Our last pass is poor.

  47. 47
    HBA39 says:

    We miss some easy passes for the moment (Obertan, Jonas, Taylor) thats disappointed because we seem to be in a good night and all guys seem in a good form for the moment.

  48. 48
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Tiote’s doin’ well so far.

  49. 49
    Big Dave says:

    Tiote has been intercepting a few stray passes so far :grin:

  50. 50
    HBA39 says:

    Agger and Skrtel are really the best central defenders in the league with Colocinni

  51. 51
    toonsy says:

    Need to keep their fans quiet!

  52. 52
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Why when I see Bellemy’s mug do I just want to punch it?

  53. 53
    Munich Mag says:

    wtf Simpson

  54. 54
    M says:

    need to slow the game down, keep the ball for a bit

  55. 55
    toonsy says:

    Penalty Spot – Is it because he is a twat? :)

    Good player though in fairness

  56. 56
    toonsy says:

    NUFC fans singing “you’re just a shit Ryan Taylor” to Jose :lol:

  57. 57
    Penalty-Spot says:

    @M yup. We’ll start to do that after a bit…

  58. 58
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Refs on their side.

  59. 59
    HBA39 says:

    wth Raylorrrrrrr the guy eliminates you like a kid. And obertan please wake up now

  60. 60
    toonsy says:

    No attempt to move out the way by the ref then no? :roll:

  61. 61
    Munich Mag says:

    Frickin Obertan didn’t show much urgency to get that ball back !

  62. 62
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Toonsy. Yeh, on both points.

  63. 63
    Munich Mag says:

    men against boys…we lack real class, several players, Obertan, Vukic, Cabaye are way off the pace of the game…poor

  64. 64
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Collo’s playing high up. Trying to get us forward. I like it but hope we don’t get caught out by the afore mentioned Twat.

  65. 65
    HBA39 says:

    Obertan is really frustrating and Vuckic 0 pass completed for the moment. Jonas is absent to very difficult for Ba it is alone with Agger and Skrtel quite impossible we need to improve our passes if we wont to be more dangerous

  66. 66
  67. 67
    toonsy says:

    MM – Liverpool aren’t exactly doing fuck all either like…

  68. 68
    Big Dave says:

    I haven’t seen much of Cabaye so far :???:

  69. 69
    Munich Mag says:

    we are playing a real high defensive line, we need to watch out for balls behind the full backs…

  70. 70
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Toonsy it doesnt mean obertan has to stop?

    This is a terrible game.

  71. 71
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Defending well is about all we’re doing. COME ON TOON!! Step it up.

  72. 72
    toonsy says:

    Get in!

  73. 73
  74. 74
    M says:

    yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  75. 75
    HBA39 says:

    YESSSSSSS

  76. 76
    Big Dave says:

    Get in there lad :lol:

  77. 77
    Penalty-Spot says:

    GET IN hahahahaha!!!

  78. 78
    Munich Mag says:

    Demba yahooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! 1-0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  79. 79
    toonsy says:

    Ba or Agger then?

  80. 80
    HBA39 says:

    great sacrifice by Vuckic with his face thanks Haris

  81. 81
    Big Dave says:

    Some of liverpools play is shit hot but they’re a bit sloppy

  82. 82
    HBA39 says:

    great Tiote Tonight winning all his duels and completing all his passes

  83. 83
    AngelOfDeath says:

    That was just random goal. :lol:

    All i see was Haris blood coming out,and GOALLLLL~~ :shock:

  84. 84
    M says:

    very poor from Jonas, shouldve passed that inside to Vuckic in space

  85. 85
    toonsy says:

    Defo Agger. Nice flick on by the ineffectual and off the pace :roll: ;) Cabaye

  86. 86
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Careful Guitti

  87. 87
    Munich Mag says:

    Wor fans are giving it lowdy today….excellent performance from them so far…

    Oh oh dangerous….

  88. 88
    toonsy says:

    Bollocks :(

  89. 89
  90. 90
    HBA39 says:

    Shitt

  91. 91
    Penalty-Spot says:

    FUK

  92. 92
  93. 93
    toonsy says:

    Shoddy defending. Raylor leaving his man :(

  94. 94
    SpencerTheToon says:

    well that was clever from raylor to come out of position..

  95. 95
    M says:

    we’re in trouble now….

  96. 96
    Munich Mag says:

    what a really poor goal…..disappointing.. :cry:

  97. 97
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Why the f did i winge about that little tosser.

  98. 98
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Obertan boiling my piss again, he has no desire to try and get the ball, despite being the fastest player on the pitch.

  99. 99
    Munich Mag says:

    we are being battered down our left side…. :cry:

  100. 100
    AngelOfDeath says:

    Another 4-3 kind of scoreline? :shock:

  101. 101
    toonsy says:

    Need to take the sting out of the game again.

  102. 102
    HBA39 says:

    Raylor make really a bad head to kick out this cross from Enrique. Thats really pity because Liverpool was not dangerous in a constructed action and seem very poor offensively without suarez

  103. 103
    Penalty-Spot says:

    @Munich – Santon?

  104. 104
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Norwich all over again. Evetbody in the six yard box. get in their faces

  105. 105
    Munich Mag says:

    sorry but we have a swamped midfield, and Obertan and Vukic don’t know where they should be playing…

  106. 106
    HBA39 says:

    Raylor needs to stop his fucking poor passes to Colocinni or Williamson

  107. 107
    Munich Mag says:

    Usual stuff…we cannot keep the ball…hence we cannot take the sting out of Liverpool…

    Take a good look at Tiote, he’s the only one who looks comfortable on the ball today….

  108. 108
    M says:

    fucking Jonas is completely out of form

  109. 109
    Big Dave says:

    some of our passing is shite

  110. 110
    HBA39 says:

    Really Jonas are Obertan are too poor in term of passes need to change just one time to see what happen with Hatem in the wing. Just one time to try

  111. 111
    kimtoon says:

    While we all worried about Carroll should of known that pr**k Bellers would score. Carroll will probs get one now as we are well under the cosh here.

  112. 112
    toonsy says:

    Raylor is now a liability

  113. 113
    Penalty-Spot says:

    They’re all over us tbf. We need to make so much more of our passing and midfield. One or two passes then losing it is Blx.

  114. 114
    Munich Mag says:

    Raylor is out of his depth, end of story. Pardew picked him.

    All our midfield are struggling today, the game is passing them all by, apart from Tiote…

  115. 115
    HBA39 says:

    And Haris is completely lost in the pitch for the moment we don’t see him, hope he will improve a little bit

  116. 116
    Big Dave says:

    MM sometimes he is too comfortable and holds onto it too long :???:

  117. 117
    Penalty-Spot says:

    @Kimtoon Couldnt of put it better mi’ :roll: sen

  118. 118
    toonsy says:

    Fuck me. It’s like we’re losing 5-0 listening to some of you lot!

  119. 119
    HBA39 says:

    is Cabaye playing up Vuckic or the opposite?

  120. 120
    EvilFranky says:

    Garbage, can’t string a pass together.

  121. 121
    Penalty-Spot says:

    @Toonsy fair cop ;-)

  122. 122
    jay jay says:

    if we are playing so shit and drawing, isnt that good :???:

  123. 123
    Big Dave says:

    Downing is a pretty nifty player

  124. 124
    toonsy says:

    Penalty Spot – It seems some expected us to dominate at Anfield :roll: It was never going to happen. It’s 1-1, they just scored which pumped them up. Prioe to that though…. Nothing

  125. 125
    EvilFranky says:

    Crap long balls to a lone striker, we should have control of that midfield.

  126. 126
    HBA39 says:

    Toonsy argue we are wrong in our comments? just saying the truth we score really a very lucky goal. Haris is lost (true or not), Jonas and Obertan are as usual. And almost all our passes are behind so we end up in Krul all the time and after we loose the ball.

  127. 127
    hitman says:

    this is shite,we are all owa the place

  128. 128
    Munich Mag says:

    Toonsy….do you reckon ?

    I’m personally disappointed cos we cannot pass a ball all night…

    and we’re getting battered, plus 3 midfielders are out of there depth. I expected more, but we’re a shambles..

  129. 129
    Penalty-Spot says:

    @Jay jay. Kind of half good.

  130. 130
    toonsy says:

    Jay – No. We are the mighty Newcastle United and should be dominating a team that are better than us on their own ground.

  131. 131
    Penalty-Spot says:

    But not good enough :smile:

  132. 132
    Blackbartoon says:

    Obertan Out Santon In
    Vuckic Out Ben Arfa In

  133. 133
    kimtoon says:

    Don’t worry lads we’re gonna win 3.1 :smile:

  134. 134
    HBA39 says:

    and Liverpool are really far to be genius tonight. but too many players are affraid to have the ball in our team.

  135. 135
    toonsy says:

    Someone said earlier about how impressive Liverpool’s chasing of the ball is. Do people not think our poor possession and their pressing are linked no? Do people think that Liverpool are just going to let us have the ball?

  136. 136
    Munich Mag says:

    Toonsy….you reckon we have been great then ?

  137. 137
    toonsy says:

    3 minutes added time? How?

  138. 138
    Munich Mag says:

    Toonsy@130 :???: :???:

  139. 139
    jay jay says:

    was always going to be tough, we’re not out of it yet :cool:

  140. 140
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Does propert realise that to play a advantage he has to put his hands in front of him, not stand with the whistle in his mouth :lol:

  141. 141
    Big Dave says:

    Get in at halftime at 1-1 and we’ll be doing ok, but its nowt about trying to dominate them its about the fact that we’re not really playing too well. and a few players are well below par

  142. 142
    hitman says:

    when dogleash subs the judas and brings on kyut we are in trouble

  143. 143
    Toby le Rhone says:

    We are drawing at Anfield so we slag off a 19 year old kid making his second start. As Toonsy says we are the greatest fans in the world

  144. 144
    toonsy says:

    Munich – Can you point me to where I said we’d been great please? You won’t be able to…

    All I’m saying is that everyone is jumping on our own players again whilst completely ignoring the fact that Liverpool are hunting in packs when we get the ball. It was never going to be easy and we’ve been rubbish so far BUT it’s still 1-1

  145. 145
    kimtoon says:

    Not a bad punt from Cabaye there.

  146. 146
    AngelOfDeath says:

    Damn,cabaye should have through ball instead of shooting it.

  147. 147
    valle says:

    We have been disapointing in possession, while we have defended valiantly… I doubt we have strung 3 passes together in their half in the 1st half? Its putting our defense under so much pressure and we can thank lady luck for that fluke goal… Tiote really needs to buck up his ideas because he aint the same player he was before he got injured.

  148. 148
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy @ 136 I dont think anyone thinks Liverpool should let us have the ball. But when we get the ball we should be able to keep it a bit better no ?

  149. 149
    Munich Mag says:

    Toonsy….you didn’t say anywhere that we were great, but now that you have said that we were rubbish I’m happy…

    Raylor off Santone on second half, for sure.

  150. 150
    Penalty-Spot says:

    Well that went quick! Lets see what a Pards chat can do. In the mean time I’m off to put pins in my Bellamy Doll :twisted:

  151. 151
    Axel says:

    Santon on for the second half , Taylor just gets done for pace every time .

  152. 152
    HBA39 says:

    all i can say is that hopefully for us Suarez is not here tonight because it will be an other story. Caroll is completely a ghost for the moment. And toonsy i dont think Liverpool is putting so much pressure on us or they have a nice chasing ball..? We miss some easy easy pass when our player was no way under pressure, for me thats is not normal for a premier league player who is 7th in the league

  153. 153
    hitman says:

    leave toonsy alone he is our chosen one :lol: :lol: :lol:

  154. 154
    HBA39 says:

    If its a change? maybe Hatem for Haris but in my opinion Pard will change nothing at half time the result is good for the moment so why to change for him?

  155. 155
    Big Dave says:

    I don’t think we have lost a game that we went infont 1st this season, but im not 100%

  156. 156
    toonitis says:

    dont know if its the drink. but first game this season when i dont get worried when they attack .

  157. 157
    Munich Mag says:

    Toby we are drawing at Anfield, but have been battered in the first half, and scored a lucky goal. Of course we are happy, but we cannot paper over the cracks, we cannot retain the ball.

  158. 158
    Axel says:

    Pleased Suarez is not playing the night or this would be a very different score line . Our midfield need to get a foot in the game second half . Its still there for the taking this game .

  159. 159
    Big Dave says:

    Agger had Ba in an arm lock for that goal :???:

  160. 160
    kimtoon says:

    Liverpool remind me of a nasty Jack russell nipping at your ankles, as Toonsy said they are hunting in packs. Only thing for it give it a kick, we need to get medieval on those boys :twisted:

  161. 161
    ash1001 says:

    Its men against boys up to now, Obertan is not at the races, anyone ever seen him tackle, Ba does not stand a chance, AP you have well and truly buggered things up.

  162. 162
    toonsy says:

    Goal has been given to Cabaye. His header was on target before Agger deflected it so there ya go :)

    Gwan Yohan :D

  163. 163
    Army69 says:

    oh well .. half time , we are doing well but as much as i love vukic i think benny would be a better option going forward!! hope benny comes on 2nd half and i think santon might come on since raylor is on a yellow!! benny and santon 2nd half subs all the way for me HWTL

  164. 164
    Munich Mag says:

    Toonitis@156…it’s the drink :lol: :lol: :lol:

  165. 165
    Penalty-Spot says:

    AH1001 – I reckon we can lay off Pards.

  166. 166
    Munich Mag says:

    Army69 I think you’re spot on there. Raylor looked terrified for the last 15 there, Downing has battered him so far…

  167. 167
    One Foot Wonder says:

    ash1001
    December 30, 2011 at 20:45

    Its men against boys up to now, Obertan is not at the races, anyone ever seen him tackle, Ba does not stand a chance, AP you have well and truly buggered things up.

    ???? 1-1 at half-time against a team we havent beaten at home in over 20 years (for a reason) and yet Paerdew has buggered things up… :roll:

  168. 168
    kimtoon says:

    In that case Toonsy if Ba gets our second and Benny (when he comes on )our third my prediction comes true ,3.1 to the toon.

  169. 169
    Army69 says:

    Munich Mag
    December 30, 2011 at 20:48

    Army69 I think you’re spot on there. Raylor looked terrified for the last 15 there, Downing has battered him so far…

    CHRIST SOMEONE HAS FINNALLY AGREED WITH ME ON SOMETHING :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  170. 170
    KeithRToon says:

    we`ve been poor but Liverpool haven’t exactly been making Krul pull out all the stops, only started playing after they scored and it was a poor goal to give away.. the pool set up very well tactically though, letting tiote having the ball and marking cabaye, vuckic and ba out of the game, none of them are getting a sniff.. tiote playing decent but pulling out a fabregas standard through ball just isn’t his thing.. hate to jump on the HBA bandwagon at half time but think he could take the ball off tiote and hurt them more than vuckic, need to pull one of those CB away from Ba because he`s being comfortably double marked at the mo.. looked like Raylor took a knock too, Santon probably safe bet to come on given Raylors booked as well… still hopeful we can get something out of the game but it will be a grind

  171. 171
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy yeah I think even if it didn’t get the deflection it would have been in anyway

  172. 172
    HBA39 says:

    Santon In

  173. 173
    hitman says:

    theres some crackin darts on sky sports 2 :lol: :lol: :razz:

  174. 174
    Munich Mag says:

    Army69…..I always agree with you mate, but seldomly post it. I just watch from afar, and think, Army69 knows his crack. Take nee notice of them other ones like… ;-)

  175. 175
    Big Dave says:

    Santon on
    Fuk they love creaming over Gerrard :evil:

  176. 176
    toonsy says:

    Santon on Raylor off. Good call. The lad was walking a tightrope on a yellow card

  177. 177
    kimtoon says:

    Rednapp jnr and J.C biggin up pool who’d of thought.

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    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy was I right with that stat about not lossing a game that we took the lead in :?:

  180. 180
    HBA39 says:

    we do more passes than in all our first half, very nice to see that we was dangerous nice play by santon

  181. 181
    geordie deb says:

    Good to see Santon on

  182. 182
    toonsy says:

    Dave – I think we’ve won all games that we’ve taken the lead in :???: That was a few games ago though so not sure.

  183. 183
    HBA39 says:

    Toonsy so you see not so difficult to make 10 passes we just need that each player take his responsibalities and stops to get rid of the ball

  184. 184
    Big Dave says:

    Is Cabaye holding his groin or is he just playing for the ref :???:

  185. 185
    kimtoon says:

    Look at Bellers gobbin off to the ref ,he just can’t help himself.

  186. 186
    ash1001 says:

    One Foot Wonder & Penalty Spot it’s Pardew that picks the team and decides on tactics, if you think the tactics and team selection are right then fair enough. Liverpool are no great shakes but we are making them look good ,and thats down to tactics and certain players not been at the races

  187. 187
    M says:

    liverpool’s CBs have Demba Ba-sized pockets tonight

  188. 188
    toonsy says:

    Vuckic was nearly away there

  189. 189
    Big Dave says:

    young Vuckic doesn’t really look himsel so far wonder if the nerves have got to him abit :?:

  190. 190
    HBA39 says:

    toooooo naivee from Vuckiicccccc

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Dive!

  192. 192
    toonsy says:

    Downing went down like ponce then like. No contact :roll:

  193. 193
    Penalty-Spot says:

    We look more up for it. COME ON!

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    kimtoon says:

    Anyone else get really nervous at corners and set pieces ,we never look assured.

  196. 196
    Big Dave says:

    yeah we seem to be keeping the ball better

  197. 197
    HBA39 says:

    thats nice passes but someone need to try to eliminates his opponent

  198. 198
    Munich Mag says:

    Good possession toon !…howay !

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Come on!!!….

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    toonsy says:

    What’s Jonas doing over that free-kick? He can’t kick a ball that far can he? :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    Heres England finest :lol: :lol:

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    One Foot Wonder says:

    ash1001
    December 30, 2011 at 20:58

    One Foot Wonder & Penalty Spot it’s Pardew that picks the team and decides on tactics, if you think the tactics and team selection are right then fair enough. Liverpool are no great shakes but we are making them look good ,and thats down to tactics and certain players not been at the races,

    fair opinion although liverpool while may not be the liverpool of old are certainly a better team than us in quality and depth- fact is the can and have beaten the top teams unlike us who are lucky to snatch a draw.

    I cant knock pardew for playing a 4-4-1-1 at anfield. I’m happy he’s given Vuckic a chance despite him playing poorly, and I cant blame him for picking Jonas who to me is having a very bad game. We are a top 10 team sitting in 7th liverpool are still a top 6 team and playing like one

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    toonsy says:

    Mind you, he’d have got closer than Cabaye :lol:

    Gerrard wankfest coming up :roll:

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Lets spoil Gerrards party eh?

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    Munich Mag says:

    eh ?

    Charlie Adam looked really dangerous…well done King Kenny… :roll:

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    toonsy says:

    Cabaye just megged Henderson. Nice :lol:

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    kimtoon says:

    Talisman on for pool .

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    HBA39 says:

    I think time for Benny to come in

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    Big Dave says:

    well done Willo :grin:

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    A lot better possession. Gerrard gerrard gerrard YAWN. Toooon!

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    toonsy says:

    Ben Arfa fr Vuckic?

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    Toonsy, can you see his halo? ;-)

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    kimtoon says:

    Benny comin on lads

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    Munich Mag says:

    Only Gerrard can put those balls in for Judas…we need to cut them out…

    HBA coming on ! Why ?…..we look comfortable… :???:

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    toonsy says:

    Carroll :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    Well done Carroll :lol:

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    AngelOfDeath says:

    Carroll almost scored. :shock:

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    Munich Mag says:

    wow…we got away with that one :shock: …gash control from Judas… Collo dozing…

  221. 221
    kimtoon says:

    Carroll defo done that on purpose i swear that was easier to score than not.

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    Big Dave says:

    MM I think Vuckic just doesn’t look himsel tonight :cry:

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Come on Benny

  224. 224
    toonsy says:

    Anyone else think Ben Arfa looks a bit like Julian Clary? :lol:

  225. 225
    Munich Mag says:

    Vukic off for HBA. Hope it doesn’t upset our defensive work.

  226. 226
    M says:

    good effort young Vuckic – struggled early on but showed glimpses of his talent and potential as the game progressed

  227. 227
    toonsy says:

    Never a free kick :roll: Won the fucking ball

  228. 228
    HBA39 says:

    great chance for Caroll. hopefully he doesn’t know to stop a ball. Demba ba has problems againts big teams with good defenders

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    :shock:

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    kimtoon says:

    Harsh fk there

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    Munich Mag says:

    That was a week free kick…shoite…

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    fek

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    M says:

    rare howler from Timmy, awful fucking goal

  235. 235
    SpencerTheToon says:

    That bollocks, this ref is fucking shit!

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    toonsy says:

    Agree with M. Vuckic came into it more and more as the game went on.

  238. 238
    Munich Mag says:

    where the fuck was our wall ??????????????????

    That was a GASH GOAL AS ALWAYS ….shit

  239. 239
    HBA39 says:

    what was this fucking strategy in this free kick someone can tell me what Simpson was doing there

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    COME ON TOON LETS SEE WHAT Y MADE OF. COME ON !!!!!!!!!

  241. 241
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Somebody tell me what was going through Simpson’s head at that moment in time. Useless

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    geordie deb says:

    Bloody hell Simpson getting in Krul’s way

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    Munich Mag says:

    pish free kick, pish goal keeping

  244. 244
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Although you should never stand on the line on a free kick!

  245. 245
    HBA39 says:

    Simpson is really stupidd….

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    toonsy says:

    Krul would have had that if Simpson didn’t fuck about with it. Poor communication.

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    Munich Mag says:

    that was pish. what is Simpson doing going back in there ?

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    When. When. When will there ever ever be a pro NUFC commentary team. It does my bleedin heed in.

  249. 249
    Big Dave says:

    Fuk that looked like it was in

  250. 250
    toonsy says:

    Great clearance by Skrtel.

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    Munich Mag says:

    oh man…that was INCREDIBLE defending, brilliant attempt by Demba Ba !

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    kimtoon says:

    FFS bloody bellers again, Did anyone notice the smirk on Enriques face after the goal. Oh well it took an ex toon ace to put them ahead ,where would they be without our cast offs .

  253. 253
    HBA39 says:

    Liverpool had the worst rate of chances converted in the league 8% but against us it is 200%

  254. 254
    AngelOfDeath says:

    I haven’t seen ben arfa touching the ball yet. :???:

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    Could the commentator’s be any further up gerrards arse?

  256. 256
    Munich Mag says:

    wtf are these commentators blathering on about ?

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Spence – no.

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    HBA39 says:

    Jonas is bad really good effort ok but at the end put him on the bench he doesn’t know to make a pass he does some stupid fools

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    Munich Mag says:

    Spencer…agreed there mate, embarassing…

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Brilliant my Bellamy pin dolls worked a bit. Too late mind :roll:

  261. 261
    toonsy says:

    Kuyt coming on. Always scores against us :(

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    HBA39 says:

    Obertan is completely out of the game tonight

  263. 263
    SpencerTheToon says:

    AOD- Probably because we a smacking the ball past him, instead of passing it to him..

  264. 264
    kimtoon says:

    Penalty spot you are so right the commentary is always against us they hate us . I often turn it down as i will say something and 5 mins later they say it ! . They get paid to state the bleedin obvious and still can’t get it right.

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    Munich Mag says:

    we never had a better chance than today. No Suarez, a half fit Gerrard, and we shoot ourselves in the foot.

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    Haven’t criticised him yet, ever (I want him to realise his obvious potential) but Obertan is too reluctant to get stuck in. Seems really reluctant?

  267. 267
    toonsy says:

    Game over.

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    Big Dave says:

    get ta fuk FFS

  269. 269
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Tiote has had another fucking mare….

  270. 270
    SpencerTheToon says:

    HBA… that makes a difference :roll:

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    HBA39 says:

    2 goals from Simpson tonight thank you simpson the guy put him a little bit pressure the guy is lost… Liverpool was really poor tonight but we are afraid to play

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    geordie deb says:

    Jesus Christ man

  273. 273
    toonsy says:

    Thought Krul should have done a bit better there mind

  274. 274
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Honestly anyone who says Simpson is worth persevering with I am sorry NO. He just isn’t good enough

  275. 275
    Munich Mag says:

    Thanks Simmo….another lost ball….

    3-1

  276. 276
    Big Dave says:

    Tiote sometimes needs to hoof the ball upfield instead of playing a hospital ball to Simpson :???:

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    HBA39 says:

    Obertan and Jonas was absent all the game

  278. 278
    kimtoon says:

    Just turned me sound down the commentary team having a mass orgasim over stevie g’s goal pricks

  279. 279
    ash1001 says:

    Simpson never even tried to get back, the lazy f ing B

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    hitman says:

    fkin shite,simmo at fault again..
    if ashley dosnt spend next week fkin riot.

  281. 281
    Munich Mag says:

    Toonsy@273…I thought the same mate… :sad:

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    Penalty-Spot says:

    FFS I hate this shit. Toon have been OK, Liverpool have been good, Gerrard obviously. But the fucking commentary. It ain’t right. They LOVE Liverpool. What’s going on. WHY?

    The Nutjob is fantastic btw, whoever sorted that out (WOLFIE?) good on y’.

  283. 283
    toonsy says:

    Agree with Dave. Why did Tiote play the ball to Simpson? Hoof it out. Oh yeah, forgot people want to see football not hoofball….

  284. 284
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Toby- That was far from simmos fault, tiote played him the stupidest ball of the game.

  285. 285
    AngelOfDeath says:

    Do we need a new RB in summer? :???:

  286. 286
    Toby le Rhone says:

    And for our pet hate Obertan it is roll your sleeves up time surely the lad could be more industrious

  287. 287
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Once super sub arrives… why dont you just suck him off after the game you prick?

  288. 288
    HBA39 says:

    OBERTANNNN OUTTT FOR 3 games

  289. 289
    Munich Mag says:

    Jonas, Obertan, Cabaye all off the pace off the game. Bad sub by Pardew imo, unless Vukic was tiring ?

  290. 290
    ash1001 says:

    How in the hell is obertan still on the field, what a plonker

  291. 291
    toonsy says:

    Jonas has been fucking awful tonight.

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    HBA39 says:

    in all these game we have one shot in the target, really thats not normal to keep wingers like that

  293. 293
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy there is a time for hoofball and a time for football ;-) but Tiote likes to play with the ball at times.
    As for Gabby I haven’t seen him roll the sleeves up and get stuck in

  294. 294
    Toon@Jer says:

    Simpson is NOT a footballer, he can’t dribble, cross or even keep possession. In hindsight, its right not to succumb to his demand for a better contract.

  295. 295
    SpencerTheToon says:

    a useless piece of shit off, a useless piece of shit on, great sub..

  296. 296
    toonsy says:

    Sammy on. He’ll create a lot and not run about like a heedless chicken like :???:

  297. 297
    ash1001 says:

    Come on Sammy show Obertan how to play

  298. 298
    Munich Mag says:

    I’m so disappointed with this result, cos Liverpool are nothing special. :evil: :evil:

  299. 299
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy @ 291 I hate to agree on that :evil: but I have to

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    kimtoon says:

    Bellers getting stitched up in treatment room hopefully its his gob theyr’e working on :evil:

  301. 301
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Toonsy, I think you have just summed the whole team up tonigh

  302. 302
    toonsy says:

    Gerrard MOM for fucks sake :roll:

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    AngelOfDeath says:

    Next up against man utd. :roll:

    geez.

  304. 304
    Munich Mag says:

    I think Pardew muffed it today.
    We needed 2 men up front, cos our 5 man midfield (3 of them non-existant) had nothing to hit.

    wtf Gerrard man of the ,match !!!!!!!!!!

  305. 305
    Big Dave says:

    we are making these look good,

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    ash1001 says:

    Telegram to AP ‘Urgent get Fat Ash to splash the cash or the season is going to die on its feet’.

    Liverpool were very ordinary, what does that make us.

  307. 307
    HBA39 says:

    next game i hope i will see Ben arfa from the start i dont wanna see Jonas and Obertan both in the game at the same time

  308. 308
    toonsy says:

    So then…….. Where are all the tactical masterminds who wanted a 4-5-1? :)

  309. 309
    kimtoon says:

    MOM Stevie g , wow never saw that coming. What about Skirtle with that fantastic clearance poor get wouldn’t get a look in or bellers for that matter.

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    SpencerTheToon says:

    Liverpool champions league spot for Liverpool, they are miles behind spurs man u man city arsenal and even Chelsea? These commentators are fucking clueless

  311. 311
    ash1001 says:

    Toonsy, AP was the ringmaster of that one, and what a mess he made of it

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    Big Dave says:

    I just hope all the fans that were thinking we were better than liverpool and that we would beat them realise that we’re not as good as some think, our 1st 11 is good but our strenght in depth is poor

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    HBA39 says:

    nice play by Gutierrez…damn i wanna kill my self when i see Sameobi , Obertan Jonas

  314. 314
    kimtoon says:

    Liverpool are crap lads ,but tonight we are crapper. Really wish we had gone with two up front we looked toothless .

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    Big Dave says:

    I just hope this is a one off because too many players wern’t up for this, the only good thing was that Carroll never scored

  316. 316
    AngelOfDeath says:

    i only counted 3times ben arfa being involved in the play. :roll:

  317. 317
    Toby le Rhone says:

    The quickest Jonas moved all night was to get the shirt off Gerrards back

  318. 318
    Munich Mag says:

    Kimtoon….divvent say that, you’ll have toonsy on yer ! :lol:

  319. 319
    toonsy says:

    ash1001 – I can point you to hundreds of comments from fans who wanted that system. It got played. It got shown up for what it is – shit :)

  320. 320
    kimtoon says:

    ffs , Man u next. :evil:

  321. 321
    SpencerTheToon says:

    AOD, thats not his fault, we were just playing the ball long and hoping.

  322. 322
    toonsy says:

    “Joe Cole’s thoughts next”

    I reckon that’s a chimp on a bike :lol:

  323. 323
    kimtoon says:

    I think i’m in credit munich i agreed with him earliar on like. :lol:

  324. 324
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Toonsy re the 4-5-1 system I was advocating it was without the wide men for tonight. Jonas and Obertan were never going to get any joy against those full backs

  325. 325
    HBA39 says:

    Toonsy are you stupid or what? its not about the 4 5 1 its about the players you put in with Obertan and Jonas it doesn’t matter your tactic it will look hooriibble these guys don’t know how to control a ball, to eliminate an opponent to make a pass or to cross . Your best player to play as a number 10 Benny in the bench put Benny in the right or in the left i will prefer so we will be a bit more dangerous. And it was 1-1 until the clever Simpson had the best idea of his life to protect a side of Krul for a free kick of 30 meters, he believes that Bellamy has a 200 km/h shoot or what..? really tonight it was really easy to get something from this game

  326. 326
    Big Dave says:

    Pards has to take some blame but IMHO the players have to take more, its just not good enough :evil:

  327. 327
    Munich Mag says:

    kimtoon….ya big crawler yi ! :lol:

  328. 328
    Army69 says:

    one negative about 2nyts game was we needed to be ALOT more adventurous , we kept on going back to the defence and tim krul far many times!! obertan lost the ball and didnt do enough for me again!! anyway imo thats probs the hardest game out the way of the season now!! lets crack on and beat man utd on wed and it will be all forgived from 2nyts match!! one plus about the game was ANDY CARROLL DIDNT SCORE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    AngelOfDeath says:

    I am not saying is ben arfa fault,is the formation that doesn’t work well tonight. No one passing the ball to ben arfa.

    And relax lads,we will be still 7th even we lose to man utd next. ;-)

  331. 331
    ash1001 says:

    Toonsy I agree with you, 4 – 5 – 1 is not gonna work, we aint got the legs to support a lone man up front

  332. 332
    toonsy says:

    HBA – Clearly I’m not stupid. Certainly not stupid enough to bang on about a 4-5-1 with shit wingers like others do/have been :lol:

  333. 333
    kimtoon says:

    Allright lads it’s new years eve tommorow get pissed forget about 2nite and enjoy the fact we got 30pts and have our ass parked in 7th place. p.s Someone put a gag on Rednapp and J.C FFS

  334. 334
    AngelOfDeath says:

    I am so sorry,How many times should i say.

    Ben arfa is equally crap in crossing the ball.He is suited as No.10 to score goals.

  335. 335
    toonitis says:

    glad i did not go i would want my money back. complete shat. :evil: roll on fulham :shock:

  336. 336
    Munich Mag says:

    I think the wheels have came off the toon chariot. We will REALLY struggle from now on in. Thank goodness we have the points in the bag from early doors.

    Sorry like, but that’s the way I see it… :sad: :sad:

  337. 337
    Army69 says:

    Did u see goofy as f uck , fat , arsed twat , dwayne dibley look alike jose enrique when liverpool scored the freekick , his happy goofy horrible twatful stupid face running to kiss bellamy!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  338. 338
    shottiesbru says:

    Not sure what is going on with our wingers and our passing in the final third is so poor.

  339. 339
    mickey s says:

    hammered again. pardew is crap. team is crap. unless you watch all games live. not just bits n bobs [highlights] too much jack charlton long ball , sammy is not good enough.raylor is not good enough. jonas is not good enough. obertan is not good enough.cabaye is good but where the fu.k was he same with tiote. we got most of our points from being lucky against so called lesser teams earlier in the season. still no ambition. fu..in wa.k.

  340. 340
    Axel says:

    Just hope that i never see Obertan in a newcastle shirt again , the guy is shit . Until their second goal i thought Simpson had a very good game , then he got in Tim’s way for that goal . Ba had no service and Vuckic was left on an island because imo Tiote was just not at the races tonight , his passing was way off .

  341. 341
    toonsy says:

    Ash – It can work, but it needs to be done differently and not conventionally. Not many wingers get much change out of Liverpool so Jonas and Obertan were pissing against the win from the start. The problem then lays in the middle, but we only had Tiote and Cabaye up against Spearing, Adam and Henderson so we were outnumbered in the middle and out-thought on the flanks.

    Effectively we have no middle then which a lot of people said. So then we have to resort to long balls up front. The problem is that the link man, Vuckic then Ben Arfa, are never close enough to get onto anything that comes off Ba.

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    kimtoon says:

    mickey s I’m gonna send you some of my prozac mate :lol:

  343. 343
    Army69 says:

    mickey s – why do u come on this blog then if we are that crap?? go and do some dishes or something – mug!!!

  344. 344
    Munich Mag says:

    Simmo had a great first half, and a dreadful 15 minutes in the second half, a couple of his actions which cost us the game. Granted Tiote passed him a difficult ball, but he’s a footballer ffs and should be able to find a way out of it… :evil: :evil: :evil:

  345. 345
    Stuart79 says:

    Got to be honest, I am a huge fan of Vukic but jeez, why start with him in place of HBA? Utter madness.

  346. 346
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Bellamy called Krul a dutch twat…

    Racist!! :lol:

  347. 347
    HBA39 says:

    but if ben arfa play on the wing he wil not cross the ball he will eliminates his opponent and goes in his left foot and shoots because he has really a great shoot. And in a wing he will touch more balls because as Vuckic in the first half when you play as number 10 in this team i think the wingers don’t know that you need to give the ball to your number 10. Vuckic touched 5 balls in the first half. Look to other teams which played with a guy in the hole, their number 10 receives all the ball.
    But at the end we start good the second half Liverpool was down until this stupid mistake from Simpson in this free kick

  348. 348
    Munich Mag says:

    Well it was fun seeing us kicking aboot in the top 7…. :lol: :lol:

    Back to the real world ! :lol:

  349. 349
    Toby le Rhone says:

    When you see their second goal it is so embarassing. Comedy caper defending

  350. 350
    Army69 says:

    pardew has got to start benny on wed – jesus christ!!

  351. 351
    toonsy says:

    Spencer – That is in my match report. It may ruffle a few feathers :lol:

  352. 352
    mark says:

    ah well, never mind. at least Carroll didnt score.

    Didnt like the formation. Ba up front all game on his todd?? Their defenders had him shackled all night.

    Obertan was very poor. Simpson was worse..

  353. 353
    blip says:

    Loving the doom and gloom merchants on here all of a sudden.

    Not a good night, admittedly, but Liverpool are undefeated at Anfield this season, and the teams that have taken a draw have, by and large, been outplayed but lucky.

    Frankly, we’re 8 points better off than this time last season and 16 points off our total haul from last season.

    Improvement was the aim, improvement seems likely. Get a grip.

  354. 354
    The 59 Sound says:

    Wouldnt worry about the result tonight lads. Did anyone really expect us to win tonight? Maybe a draw but hey ho at least we have points on the board and its another hard game out of the way. Chin up lads, Still a brilliant 2011.

  355. 355
    The 59 Sound says:

    I agree 353, its ok, dont expect to get anything from this game.

  356. 356
    shottiesbru says:

    i just dont get how our wingers want to go back rather than forward, in my opinion the difference was they thought about attacking and we just want to go back all the time or lump it to ba who is on his own against two center backs

  357. 357
    SpencerTheToon says:

    Toonsy- :shock: I think the result has already ruffled a few :lol:

  358. 358
    Munich Mag says:

    Blip. We we’re battered this evening, which is really disappointing. You are only as good as you’re last match, and we have been stinking for the last 6-7 games. We really do need to get a grip imo, the players and manager that is. :sad:

  359. 359
    mickey s says:

    kimtoon. please hurry up and send some then. bit me nails to the bones and supped me new years eve supply of special brew.

  360. 360
    HBA39 says:

    and Pard says HBA is not 100%, but in my opinion even at 80% he can play in this team. I cannot imagine how he can play more bad than Jonas, Obertan, Vuckic or Best. these guys done nothing so he cannot do worse. So put Benny in the pitch from the start and give him a run of games.
    I don’t know if someone disagree but the only player who has been dropped after the first half because he played bad was Ben arfa ( and Best one match because he had a yellow car which was close to a red card just before the end of the first half). Obertan needs to be dropped and Jonas to but i dont know who to put in the wing, at the end i dont care just ttry someone else. Shit that Marveaux is not fit because he is better than Obertan and Jonas 10 times.

  361. 361
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Said it before and will say it again.

    Simpson is dogs**t! He played a part in all three goals.

    1 goal. Enrique beats him and gets a cross in. He only played with him for two years, surely he should know he will always try for the byline.

    2 goal. On the goal line.

    3 goal. No composure and boots ball out, giving possession back to Liverpool.

    We need to hope he doesn’t sign a contract because he urgently needs replacing. Not good enough for a decent Premier League team. Back up at most

  362. 362
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Also, how are people slating Obertan ahead of Jonas?! Jonas has been piss poor and produced nothing for months now. He needs replacing. Bench player at most.

    Sammy Ameobi is not ready at this level. We are desperately missing Marveaux.

  363. 363
    The 59 Sound says:

    @358 munich mag, we have had hard games tho mate. At least we have got enough points on the board. Always hard today, your being deluded if your having a go at the players and manager today.

    I go to enough games and see us and have to be calm about it, i bet loads of peope on here hardly ever go to games by having a go at players on here like that. Get a grip lads, today was ok, not end of the world and still 7th. End of.

  364. 364
    Blackbartoon says:

    I’m sorry for Simpson, he was having a good match until his mistake! Our main problem is our wingers!! Look at Downing and Bellamy, compare them to Obertan and Jonas! We need to stop thinking that Hba cannot play on Obertan’s place! A winger should have skills and crossing habilities before being able to defend! We need to change that point of view! Jonas is very disapointing at the moment! Obertan is criminal against football, he’s Fu***** Rubbish!! It’s not about 442 or 451, we cannot continue with wingers who cannot cross, who cannot score, who cannot make assists! Joey wasn’t a Winger but he was our best player last season! Because he had at least a great right foot! For me, we need to buy someone to play at Obertan’s place or put Hba at right winger! And it’s time to give Shane Fergie a chance!! Last season he gave us some good services!! Tonight Liverpool wasn’t that good, they were Ok, Stevie G change the match, we were ok but we can’t continue to loose by mistake everytime!! Next Mu, Wednesday St James Park!! Howay toon

  365. 365
    Tsunki says:

    Well I thought it was nice of the lads to donate a rare home win to the scousers. Did I see right – after their last goal it looked like we were happy just to get on the bus and go home. I think we made them look good tonight, Tiote’s passing was bizarre, and I think that Al’s tactics were not great at all. Shouldn’t have started with Raylor, brought HBA on too late & changed nothing around when we were definitely being overran. I’m afraid Obertan is starting to wear out his welcome with me now (and I have been on his side), they had the measure of him and most of his touches looked panicky. Felt sorry for Vuckic too, looked out of his depth tonight.

  366. 366
    HBA39 says:

    if we buy a left back at january window we can put Santon in the right and our new transfer in the left so we will be better. But i think our main problems come from our wingers. Because no team has strikers who can eliminates 3 opponent and score a goal each game, every team has his most dangerous players in the wing, except us. So if Ba is beaten in the air we have no chance to score like tonight because Ba has no chance against Agger in the duel in the air.

  367. 367
    toonsy says:

    “Also, how are people slating Obertan ahead of Jonas?!”

    Because Obertan is the latest scapegoat no matter how bad others are or what he actually does manage to do :)

  368. 368
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Problem with Simpson is he is a passenger:

    - If he goes forward we need someone in close proximity just incase he is pressured and needs a short pass.

    - He needs to receive the ball when not under any pressure.

    - He needs a winger to help him defend all the time as he backs off far too much.

    We can’t afford these types of players. They hold teams back. He needs to be offloaded sharpish. Santon for RB

  369. 369
    mickey s says:

    army 69 . i come on her to voice my opinion which i am entitled to. and i stick by wot i say . knob.

  370. 370
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Evening all, haven’t read all the comments above yet, but am very disappointed by tonights showing.
    I think its fair to say we beat ourselves tonight. Never seen us play so lethargically. So negatively from the ko. As soon as L’pool upped the tempo it was game over. We seemed to panic and just kept giving the ball back to them
    I think its obvious we cant play 4-4-1-1. We just end up hoofing the long ball all the time in hope.
    Got to go back to 4-4-2. imo and do what we are good at.
    Not gonna slag off any particular players, they were all pretty poor.
    But the manager gets my anger, he got it completely wrong from start to finish. The line up the formation and the game plan. All poor and it showed.
    Ah well time to crack open that malt I got for xmas.
    Cheers.
    :evil:

  371. 371
    SpencerTheToon says:

    I feel both obertan and jonas are offering very little down the wings at this moment in time, hopefully if santo gets a run in the team, jonas will be back to normal. But obertan, I hold no hope for him, as i feel that SAF would not have sold him so cheap if he thought he had a gem on his hands,

  372. 372
    HBA39 says:

    Toonsy you will be happy Jonas is at the same level as Obertan. For me Jonas is even worse in term of football skills, I don’t know how this guy become a professionall player. At least Obertan every 10 games can do something that is at a level of premier league wingers. But it seems that for Newcastle fans the winger must be very good defensively and must defend a lot. No way we need to have wingers like Nani, Sturridge, or Adam Johnson.. these players are quality wingers, they are dangerous for the other teams. Our wingers are dangerous but for our own team.

  373. 373
    Big Dave says:

    ET @ 368 so what your saying is you think we need more than a CB this window :?: ;-)

    And its allright people saying that we shouldn’t have expected anything from this match tonight that we should get a grip ??? I didn’t expect any points tonight but I expected more from the players :?:

  374. 374
    Big Dave says:

    HBA39 @ 372 and where are we going to get these players like Nani, Sturridge, or Adam Johnson.. just pluck them out of thin air :???:

  375. 375
    Newkie says:

    Wingers are shite offensively as they have been all season. Too much long ball.

    For the second goal seems a bad tactic? Or poor communication/silliness from Simmo, third goal we should have fucking hooned it rather than passing along the back four.

    Fookin depressed.

  376. 376
    Tsunki says:

    I’m already downing the Laphroiag c/w beer swisher. Oh well, Man U at home next lets hope Al’s learned something finally from tonight I dont wanna stand in the rain for a hammering from them. :sad:

  377. 377
    Munich Mag says:

    I’m afraid the feel-good factor has disappeared from the team. We really seem to lack conviction over the last games…

  378. 378
    HBA39 says:

    @Big dave
    I just say the type of players we need. I really think Marveaux can be good, because I have seen a lot of his games at Rennes and he has talent. In my opininon Benny can play in the wing, maybe he will defend less (even if i think than Obertan defensive work is very poor) but at least when he will receive the ball in a good position he will be dangerous.
    I don’t know if someone can find the sats of the passes we made tonight but in my opinion 60 or 70% of our passes was back, so its impossible to be dangerous like that. The back passes is the easises pass to make you don’t take risk but our wingers our even our number need to take this risk. he need to say ok maybe i will loose the ball but i take the risk to control the ball and try eliminate..Benny does that all the time

  379. 379
    toonsy says:

    I’m downing nothing as I have work for 13 hours tomorrow and finish at 22:30 :evil:

    Happy fricking New Year!

    Also back at work on New Years Day so no booze when I finish! Mind you, that particular shift is worth a few hundred quid so it eases the pain :lol:

  380. 380
    toonsy says:

    HBA39 – Good point about Marveaux. I reckon his impact is lost at the moment. Even when he wasn’t playing and was just a sub it didn’t matter, he was there breathing down the neck of Jonas and Obertan. Jonas especially responded to that and was playing really well. Lose the competition and Jonas gets pants. Same when Benny was about last season, Jonas played well for a few games then when Benny got injured he played shite as he had no competition

  381. 381
    Army69 says:

    hba you dont know how gutierez is a pro player??? :lol: :lol: :lol: just cos hes been off form alot have been slating him , he was our best player with col at the start of the season imo

  382. 382
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Obertan had the excuse he was up against the best LB in the league. Also, he is tracking back a lot more nowadays to help Simpson. It’s pathetic. Simpson is about 33% of NUFC’s problem right now.

    Jonas, well, I am sick to death of him. Constantly giving away possession and then pulling that dumb face he always does. Winds me right up. He offers nothing going forward and is a bench player at most. We need a winger, CB and LB before next season.

  383. 383
    Army69 says:

    thank god perch wasnt marking carroll , willo did ok

  384. 384
    Army69 says:

    enrique isnt the best left back in the league , NO WAY

  385. 385
    toonsy says:

    Bloke on SSN just said: “Craig Bellamy’s night ended on a sour note after a clash with Carlo Coloccini” :roll:

  386. 386
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    and of course a striker too. Four players, two windows, can they do it? Doubt it.

  387. 387
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Big Dave @ 373 “I didn’t expect any points tonight but I expected more from the players”
    Bang on mate. Dont mind losing to a good team, but cesspoo were shyte at ko and only came into it after we scored. We let them off the hook with our own poor performance, and as soon as Gerrard came on we gave up completely.
    Pardew was beaten before ko and was more worried about Judas than our own players.
    How the feck can he justify starting Vuckic over HBA or even Besty.
    Utter tosh from Pardew tonight. I cant wait to hear what he has to say.
    Demba is far more effective with Besty alongside him, not up on his own.
    We had no width and only one tactic. Hoof the ball up to Ba. Nery lame.
    Sitterpool were ripe for the taking and we blew it big style. Nay excuses are good enough. The buck stops with Pardew.

  388. 388
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Army69

    In my opinion, he is. Said it before he left and won’t change my tune now he is gone. He is awesome. This season he has been outstanding for Liverpool too. No other LB comes close.

  389. 389
    Army69 says:

    OH WELL WE COULD HAVE A NEW STRIKER IN BEFORE MAN UTD :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  390. 390
    Army69 says:

    el toro thats why football is so exciting with everyones different views :grin:

  391. 391
    Big Dave says:

    How long is Marveaux out for, As for Jonas he looks real drained over the last handfull of games, I still think the amount of running he has been doing over this season is getting to him, as we all know he is capable of more.
    but Gabby doesn’t have that excuse, I know he needs time but for me he just doesn’t look like the answer, infact IMHO Routers done as much and was as good :???:

  392. 392
    Newkie says:

    hope we buy a fucking decent winger

  393. 393
    HBA39 says:

    maybe you are wrong Army69, he has done maybe 3 good games this season when he plays really like a winger and was dangerous. And it seems that this guys when he does not have favor cons he cannot eliminate an opponent.
    really tonight it was one of the poorest game of Liverpool (because i watch almost all games of Liverpool this season, 2 of my friends are big fan), and we was not able to take profit of that and beat them or get a draw. Maybe before the game he result is not surprising but very poor performance from most of the players tonight especially our wingers and it starts to be a bad habit

  394. 394
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    I dont think we have heard the last of that elbow from Colo on bellers.
    Sky already highlighted it. Retro red card wouldn’t be a shock.
    I dont think there was any intent myself, but the FA like to put the boot into NUFC and haven’t had the chance recently. Dont be surprised when it happens :evil:

  395. 395
    kimtoon says:

    Truth is we been going down hill last 6 games ,last weeks result just papered over the cracks ,it was Bolton after all and gave us a wee bit of respite. We really miss Saylor him and Collo have great understanding and defence looks weak though i thought Willo did o.k but Simmo is gash he really is . As for obertan and jonas looks like their confidence is shot. Reality check time ,thankgod we got the 30 early doors. Happy new year lads and lasses i’m off to drown sorrows.

  396. 396
    Tsunki says:

    I think we look like a shattered team that has played out of its skin for half a season and Alans motivational skills wont help now – this is the bit where he needs to use tactics and I am beginning to think that aint in his repertoire. I fear that we will be getting sick of the hoofball stuff before long and if we get stuffed by Man U doing the same old thing the crowd will be begging for his head on a stick. Get the defender situation sorted in Jan and lets forget our crossing ambitions cos we havent got anyone to head it in anyway. :smile:

  397. 397
    Big Dave says:

    BB @ 394 funny enough I thought it looked accidental but I thought Cabayes tackle looked bad :???:

  398. 398
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Its easy to sit here and slag off individual players for being crap etc, but tbh they were all poor tonight. Altho I would not level any criticism at Demba, as we never played to his strengths tonight.
    I am very worried about Pardews ability tho. Can he learn from this game? I’m not so sure anymore.

  399. 399
    Tsunki says:

    Yeah Cab’s lunge was brought to you by BUPA

  400. 400
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Demba Ba had one bit of proper service and it resulted in a goal line clearance. He is a monster!

  401. 401
    Army69 says:

    im still angry about there 2nd goal . it was never a freekick , tiote got the ball and the freekick led to a daft goal which finished the game!! ba was so unlucky with his shot cleared off the line

  402. 402
    Army69 says:

    agree el toro hes brilliant when he gets service , i think benny will give him that once he gets the chance

  403. 403
    batty says:

    dannysimpson12 Danny Simpson
    Disapointin night 4 every1.. There freekick is something that is worked on in training n just went (cont) tl.gd/f1tcvj
    26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

  404. 404
    stevep says:

    We were very poor tonight, very unadventorous and gave the ball away constantly, one of our worst displays of the season for me

    Nice to see Carroll not celebrating any of the goals

  405. 405
    Newkie says:

    Batty-not surprised, called it. Thought it was a training ground technique that he was told to do, wouldn’t make any sense otherwise.

    Stupid idea? Maybe? Even so I wouldn’t really blame him for either, our team were just shite.

  406. 406
    batty says:

    aye newkie agree with all that ,shite ;-)

  407. 407
    Big Dave says:

    Batts I said earlier Pards has to take some of the blame but the players have to take most of it as there was to many player didn’t play well enough plain and simple, if the players arn’t playing what can pards do ?

  408. 408
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    lame interview with Pardew if anyone interested:

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/7402799/Pards-Magpies-not-at-best

  409. 409
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Big Dave – the players need a game plan, and there just didn’t seem to be one tonight.
    The wingers were all over the place. Where was the neet passing game?
    No width whatsoever. Pointless having a player in the hole if you dont get the ball to him but just keep hoofing it long or more often backwards.
    We just seemed a bit lost, clueless even.
    Agree we were unlucky with Tiote’s free kick, but we were fannying around in dangerous areas far too much.
    I’ll be getting the flags out if Tiote gets sold, but tbh I just cant see anyone coming in and paying over the odds for him. He really isn’t that good. Well not on tonights performance anyway.

  410. 410
    Tommy Gibb says:

    I try to avoid unwarranted criticism of our players ,But Simpson was totally at fault for the second goal,Krul punch him out of the way, Given would have flattened him.We need a full back a centre half and a striker for next season at the latest ,if we got these we could compete 3.1 flattered to deceive.

  411. 411
    TonyGreenSupreme says:

    FFS, did some of you EXPECT us to win tonight :shock:

    What can you expect with playing FOUR full backs, we have no attacking outlet’s as both winger’s have to constantly provide cover for our SHITE full backs…………. :evil:

  412. 412
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    “What can you expect with playing FOUR full backs, we have no attacking outlet’s as both winger’s have to constantly provide cover for our SHITE full backs…………. ”

    Exactly! Thing is, Jonas has been hiding behind the ‘protects fullbacks’ tag for so long, but when Santon came on I don’t think he needed to cover as much. He does so to make up for his piss poor contribution going the other way.

    Obertan has begun protecting Simpson more, probably because he gets such unwarranted slack from the fans and he is just trying to at least show he is working hard. Feel really sorry for him. He played some good stuff today, but was never going to get the better of Enrique.

    Simpson, well, he is just plain shit and I will no longer sugar coat my words about him. He is 24 and showing no signs of improvement. Get rid.

  413. 413
    toonsy says:

    TGS – I think some fans did expect a win :???:

    Nice to see some of our fans abusing the players directly on Twitter tonight. Dead classy

  414. 414
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    flack*

  415. 415
    ~ El Toro ~ says:

    Speaking of Obertan, if you want to see just what the fans are doing for the lads confidence, check his reaction/celebration for Ben Arfa’s goal against Bolton. He almost looks scared to celebrate with the fans. Disgraceful.

  416. 416
    GeordieTwo says:

    The combination of Bellamy and then Gerrard for 18 minutes at the end did us in. Gerrard just took the game over. They could have ended up with 4 or 5 if Carroll had even a little technical ability. It wasn’t good to watch and exposed a lot of our weaknesses. Our wingers both had poor games and really other than Ba’s attempt we had no attack at all. They had 7 corners to our 0 as well which also points out the weaknesses of our wingers again. Overall quite worrisome. With Ba gone we will really struggle to score goals. I thought Tiote had an off and on game as well. Ben Arfa had little impact. Why did we not start 4-4-1-1 with Ben Arfa just off Ba’s shoulder? Surely Ben Arfa is not still struggling for match fitness?

  417. 417
    GeordieTwo says:

    This game in particular exposes how far we are from being a top 6 team. It doesn’t worry me to lose to a slightly better side but we played so poorly for most of the game. Several weaker sides than us have gone there and taken away a point! That’s what bothers me most. And the fact that they dominated us so easily! It’s up to Pardew to have a plan going forward especially with Ba away. This is what I feared most. Lose our only real striker for a month with no plan in place to deal with it. Agree with BB @409 and El Toro @412 and 415. What do supporters think they accomplishing attacking our own players on Twitter?

  418. 418
    AndrewNUFC says:

    right we got beat of Liverpool, did we really expect to go there a win tonight? The way some people have went on its embarrassing. I thought Tiote was by far our best player on the pitch, Ryan Taylor showed once again why we cant play him full back I’ve said it before if Pardew wants to play him play him on the WING! The lad isnt a defender.

  419. 419
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Actually Andrewnufc yes I do think we could have gone to annfield and won. But not playing the way we did. Liverpool were piss poor to start and were there for the taking, but we were negative from the off. why? we have been far better just going out and attacking from the wings and with 2 strikers.
    This was not a game to reintroduce Harris Vuckic ffs and Sameobi aint no game changer.
    Pardew got us beat with his tictacs or lack there of. The players didn’t know what to do. At one point Obertan was on the left wing ffs.
    Headless chickens all over the park.
    I strongly disagree that their fullbacks were too good for us. Christ we didn’t even have a good go at them just to find out.
    Pardew gave them far too much respect and had us beat before a ball was kicked.

  420. 420
    Tsunki says:

    Beardsleys Boots:@419

    Exactly. Goodnight.

  421. 421
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    If you think Tiote was the best player on the pitch, then there is no hope for you. He was utter garbage, more spins and circles than Parker and always a negative backpass if possible. He played us into more than enough trouble.
    I cant see any other club coming in for him based on that performance. But it wasn’t just him, it was all of them.

  422. 422
    GeordieTwo says:

    Again have to agree with BB @419, What was Pardew thinking starting Vuckic in this game? We should have started with Ben Arfa beside or slightly behind Ba or with Ba and Shola up front. The attacking wing play was nonexistent. Even with 5 in the midfield we were stripped of the ball constantly. Again very strange tactics from Pardew. He must have almost no faith in Ben Arfa. Jonas is about as far off his game as I have seen him at Newcastle. Both our fullbacks were exposed again defensively as being too weak. The thin squad will be more and more exposed in the second half leading to many unnecessarily droppped points. Pardew will need to take a strong hand now and really lift the lads spirits before Man U.

  423. 423
    Newkie says:

    I don’t think I or many others expected a win, but to throw away a lead in the manner in which we did was disappointing. To be fair one of the goals was very soft and the other was just stupid to give away.

    Some of the performances were good, Tiote, Cabaye, Demba and Vuckic couldn’t do too much, Santon and Colo were good.

    Some were disappointing in an offensive manner though, Jonas against Johnson for example. We do need some wingers, unless we start playing our central ones out wide? Gosling maybe :???:

  424. 424
    Newkie says:

    I think we need to bring on Barfa on the left wing, just to stick a boot up Jonas’ arse. The competition last year spurred him into action, he seems to be getting worse as each game goes now.

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    Rodzilla says:

    ..not bad this dip like Shamrock, spicy, where’d ye gerit like?

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    Rodzilla says:

    …just ignore me, al be off in a minit, soon as av doond his custad slice

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    Rodzilla says:

    me love de cake

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    Shamrock says:

    Out me ears. Took 3 years and 14 days to get a pots worth, then another 17 months to mature after infusion with cyanide, cinnamon and folic acid (for the pregnat ladies). Glad you approve. I’m thinking of marketing it – Manufactureres Price £42 per ounce. Need to get a backer first though. Reckon Duncan Bannatyne will go for it? I reckon asking for £100k in return for 30% shares and a bag of nail clippings should do it? :razz:

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    Shamrock says:

    Did someone call?

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    Rodzilla says:

    Deal. ;-)

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