Will Cissè have to wait for his chance to shine?

Newcastle supporters around the world jumped around their living rooms with joy last night at the sight of Kily’s last minute 98km per hour strike to put Senegal out of the African Cup of Nations.

As much as we may feel for Demba Ba and Cissè, our hearts want what’s best for Newcastle United, and most will admit they will be delighted to see them back in the black and white sooner than expected.

This is the thing though, will we? Senegal still have one game to play in their group, on Sunday the 29th of January. That certainly counts them out of our FA Cup fixture at the weekend but what about our next Premier League fixture?

Newcastle are due to play Blackburn away on Wednesday the 1st February, three days after Senegal’s last match. Chances are Cissè and Ba will be on a plane home on the Monday and home that night, if not then, certainly by Tuesday morning.

Good news in it’s most basic as we would expect them both to be available for Blackburn but I would expect all the travelling will have a significant bearing on their availability for Wednesday.

It is far more likely that they will be available for selection for the following game, Sunday the 5th of February against Aston Villa, and with it being in St. James’ Park it should be a nice welcome home for our Senegalese strike force.

That said, the more I thought about it the more I questioned. Demba Ba will almost certainly feature and hopefully he picks up where he left off and continues on his rich vain of scoring form, but as for Cissè, I am not so sure.

Having experienced how Alan Pardew handles new signings, Davide Santon being the prime example, I think we may be made to wait for the introduction of Papiss Demba Cissè to the Premier League.

With Leon Best fit and playing well, Hatem Ben Arfa looking better each game, and options available even beyond those two and Ba, I think Pardew may well take the same route as he did with Santon and ease Cissè into life in England.

Obviously in an ideal world I would love to see him come into the side straight away and hit the ground running, bang in a debut hat-trick and in-turn giving us a new number nine to worship but that’s the stuff of dreams to be honest, can’t see it happening.

Realistically, I think the best we can hope for is for him to be integrated immediately but via a cameo role from the bench for a month or so. The sooner he impresses, the sooner he will push his way into the starting line-up, but until then I think Pardew’s approach, and team, will remain relatively the same as it has been thus far. Remember Cisse also has to move from a different country, which is something his compatriot Demba Ba said he struggled with at the start of the season which is worth considering.

Having watched Senegal in their two games to date, the first of which he only made an appearance as a sub, I think it is clear to see the lad has genuine talent, great movement, technique and energy to burn. Given time could be a real top player for Newcastle but it may take time, despite many supporters desire to see him starting games straight away.

What do others think? Should he be given a chance to shine straight away or should we follow the line of ‘In Pardew We Trust’ and expect Cissè to be gradually integrated into the side?

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187 Comments

  1. 1
    icedog says:

    aye i think pardew will give him a week or two training as its a bonus to have back early anyway so let him settle in a bit

  2. 2
    Shamrock says:

    I would not rush Cisse in against Blackburn. The physical nature of this league comes as a shock to most players – Rovers will be even worse. If fit, I’d put him on the bench with a late sub appearance in mind…

  3. 3
    andymag (scot toon) says:

    agree he should be given some time before he’s ready to be a regular, bring him off the bench for the last ten minutes of the b’burn game, if he does well start him against villa :mrgreen:
    also replying/repost from last article
    aye, but scottishtoon95 seems an alright lad usually speaks some sense. Colo’s knock just demonstrates why we need a CB in soon

  4. 4
    andymag (scot toon) says:

    damn meant for there to cheeky grin pics in me last part of the post :mrgreen:

  5. 5
    Andy says:

    Depends if he starts the Senegal game or not. Given the choice of an inexperienced in the PL Cisse or Shola i know which one i’d rather see playing. I don’t think Pardew will rush him in though as he doesn’t seem to do that to many players Ba was but then didn’t play much the next few games. Obertan didn’t start his first appearence. Cabaye is the exception. Either way I trust Pards

  6. 6
    MentalToonHamster says:

    I reckon he’ll definitely be confined to the bench for a while. Odds are that we will revert back to Best up front with Ba for quite a matches until Cissé finds his feet.
    I’m in the mood for us to get another surprise signing just to spice things up again :grin:

  7. 7
    wolfie says:

    I think it might be best to throw him straight into the mix with Ba to be honest.
    Now normally I would have said give him time to settle in but having already played with Ba , plus the fact that he’s a predator type striker, I think maybe it’s a case of hit the ground running type of thing with him as he’s clearly fit.

    Equally, it wouldn’t bother me if he started Ba and Best and maybe gave Cisse a few weeks to settle in with his team mates and such, which in all honesty , we were expecting to wait till about Feb 12th anyway, so either way it’s a bonus. :grin:

  8. 8
    Shnurgmeister says:

    I would play Ba and Cisse together from the start, they play together for Senegal sometimes, they know each others games and it will hopefully keep Strolla out of the squad.
    Having proper strikers on the pitch that work for the ball, will be like having 2 extra players, rather than having to play with 10 men and Strolla.
    I would play Ba Cisse, Benny Gutti Cabaye and Perch with Santoon Willo, collo Simmo and Krul.
    That team should be enough to hold a Blackburn team who are intermittent to say the least and get us 3 points we need.
    At Brighton I would play Best OBerton up front with the rest the same, I would not let Strolla near the training ground never mind the first team unless its to bring the sandwiches for the lads. :evil: :evil: :evil:

  9. 9
    Whumpie says:

    Get them on the bench, but don’t rush. They need to integrate and get over the tournament. Besides, we can win without them! :mrgreen:

  10. 10
    Sharpy17 says:

    Straight in for me like, we haven’t spent 9m on a bench warmer and the only way to get used to the EPL is to play in it, he won’t learn in on the training ground.
    May have thought different if Shola and Best were in sparkling form and banging goals in all over the place but they ain’t.
    Also think it’s harder again to get to grips with a game coming on as a sub, than if you actually start the game.
    Ba will keep him right and they have spent the last couple of weeks training together with Senegal so will be used to each other.

  11. 11
    richietoon says:

    Streams for the reserves game v Manure if anyones interested
    http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

  12. 12
    jonboy says:

    Get him in pronto, Best is out of his depth and Ameobi would not get a start for Gateshead, in fact he aint good enough for their bench. You dont put a £9M man on the bench and wait until you think hes ready. He is ready

  13. 13
    Whumpie says:

    Shnurgmeister – stop all the Shola-lurve, will ya? He’ll think you’re a stalker with all that undying love and respect!

    (I love the word facetiousness. I think it’s Latin for “shitty”) :lol:

  14. 14
    wolfie says:

    I’m sure Alan slab knob Pardew (as the players know him) will decide what’s best for the team but if the player is as good as he looks, especially being a natural predator, I think Alan matching meaty chunky hairy balls Pardew (as the canteen staff know him) will throw him in as a scare tactic for starters.
    Imagine defenders thinking “oh shit Ba and Cisse,” It’s gonna make them rethink their strategies about going gung ho against us knowing that these two are capable of destroying them.

  15. 15
    wolfie says:

    The best form of DEFENCE is OFFENCE. :grin:

  16. 16
    andymag (scot toon) says:

    some teams adjust their defence/attack to suit the team they are playing, i.e. quick cb when playing smart quick strikers (aguero, long ect) and big cb for big strong strikers like Hoilett. What are defenders gonna do when they play Ba and Cisse who are both strong in the air and quick and tricky along the ground. :mrgreen:

  17. 17
    andymag (scot toon) says:

    wolfie
    senegal would object to that lol :mrgreen:

  18. 18
    Shamrock says:

    Wolfie – Tell Keegan that. He blew a 12 point lead using that way of thinking! It was fun though :mrgreen:

  19. 19
    Roland says:

    I reckon their return should be used as extra motivation for Best vs Brighton. If he plays well/scores he starts vs blackburn. Santon was eased in because back 4 were playing well, Ba’s fitness was struggling with ramadan. If Best doesn’t get the job done then you have to play the 9 mil man.

  20. 20
    wolfie says:

    I heard that Martin O’neil tried instilling the attacking approach into Sunderland and said to the players, he wants teams to look at Sunderland as an offensive unit.

    Titus Bramble, Nicolas Bendtner amd Lee Catermole said ‘no problem.’

    It turned out that after one game, Bendtner and Cattermole Keyed the opposition teams coach, while Bramble smashed the canteen girls pasty. :mrgreen:

  21. 21
    batty says:

    ide stick cisse and ba up front and gan all out attack :smile:

  22. 22
    batty says:

    shamrock to be fair to keegan man u olny dropped 5 points in there last 14 games that season .

  23. 23
    wolfie says:

    SHAMROCK @18, I don’t mean go gung ho ourselves, I mean ,with the strikers we have , we can make teams worry about our attacking prowess, whilst still holding a strong backline. :grin:

  24. 24
    wolfie says:

    Batty, I get the feeling you idolise Keegan by the way you go on, so why don;t you get an avatar of him?
    Just a thought mind. :grin:
    I mean the one you have of Mel Gibson is ok mind you. :grin:

  25. 25
    hitman says:

    get him in from the off

  26. 26
    ted says:

    cos senegals out we could get them both on flight mon.full week ov training b4 blackburn its nt like hes cb/cm

  27. 27
    richietoon says:

    To be fair to Keegan, it was that philosophy that got us the 12 point lead ;-)

  28. 28
    icedog says:

    BATTY gan on mate you tell em ;-)

  29. 29
    richietoon says:

    Ted…we play Blackburn on the Wednesday ;-)

  30. 30
    batty says:

    wolfie you meen like you have of fatty lambarse and yourself :smile:

  31. 31
    Pootle says:

    Batty that’s absolutely right.
    Man U had a slow start to that season and a brilliant finish.
    We had a brilliant start and a slow finish.
    I also hate it when people assume we had a poor defence under Keegan, we didn’t and the stats bore that out.
    We had pretty much the best attack in the league and our defence was good. It just wasn’t quite as good as Manure’s unfortunately.

  32. 32
    richietoon says:

    1 game cost us the league that season, Man Utd at home, battered them, Schmeichel was great, the Coontana hit us on the break, if we’d won that we would have won the league by 2 points(assuming all other results went the same)….we actually took more points off the other teams in the league than Manure did……….but we didn’t , they won it kernts :cry:

  33. 33
    wolfie says:

    The way I see it is, Cisse is fit and he’s had game time, so he’s not rusty and he’s on the wavelength with Ba, so it might be best throwing him in to hit the ground running.

    I remember when I had Greyhounds, I had 3 at the time but 2 of them were past their prime, so I bought another two and left the others to retire.

    The two that I bought were top notch and cost me a good few quid and I deliberated whether to race them from the off or let them settle in.

    I made the mistake of letting them get used to the retired Greyhounds, between fenced kennel runs and when it came to race them, they took it easy and came last.

    It turned out that the retired ones had been telling them that racing just burns you out early and that they were happy just taking it easy in their well luxurious kennels just lazing about reading the Greyhound times.

    I had a word with the other Greyhounds and said” it’s up to you lads, I’ve paid a fortune for the pair of you and I want something back, so run for me and win”
    Sure enough they won the next 89 races off the belt and we all lived happily ever after.

    The moral of the story is, keep Cisse away from Alan Smith. :grin:

  34. 34
    batty says:

    aye rich spot on the c unts :twisted:

  35. 35
    kimtoon says:

    I would have him on the bench ,let him see close up and live what our league is all about then bring him on second half. :grin:

  36. 36
    wolfie says:

    BATTY@30 :lol: , you know fine well that avatar of mine is the hair bear bunch. :lol:

  37. 37
    batty says:

    :roll: ok bungle :lol:

  38. 38
    wolfie says:

    hahahahaha

  39. 39
    Rodzilla says:

    Wolfie@15, I’d disagree that the best form of Defence is Offence. I’d say it’s de 6ft Pressure Treated Wavey Chevron Weave Garden Fence, a mere snip at only £174.20 per 3 panels. :cool:

    ….with regards to Cisse, bang him in man! Bollocks to nurturing him. He’s hardly lightweight, and probably knows Ba better than any other player.

    10 mins off the bench against Blackburn, and a starting place against Villa!

    (Batty, Kevin’s back! You must’ve missed him) :lol:

  40. 40
    wolfie says:

    Aye ROD, you have a point with that type of fence mind but the only problem I’ve had with those type of fences is that, although they look smart when first put up, they are not fully suited to drilling a cock hole and spy hole in them to spy on your neighbour nude sumbathing, well it didn’t work well for me because the fence is thin and kept nipping me knob, plus Mr Jones could spot my outline behind it and would cover himself up quickly before I’d vinegar stroked, the frigging spilsport. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Anyway were was I? oh yea , I think Pardew will think Cisse is ready for the fight as he has been playing in a league that’s probably as close to ours as you would get.

  41. 41
    Army69 says:

    hahahahahahahahaha!!! shoud cisse wait and play shola ?? hahahahahahahahaha!!! :lol: i fucking hope he doesnt wait i cudnt stand watchn another minute of shola like …

  42. 42
    Rodzilla says:

    Wolfie, I’m not suprised Mr Jones spotted you, with an eye-hole AND cock-hole, fatal error. You’d look like a fat, excited pine cyclops. Not something I’d fancy meeting in a dark alley.

    Anyway, you’d have thought a £9m NUFC No.9 would be ready to walk straight in. I know I do. It was different with Santon, still wet behind the ears and nursing a niggling injury; and his job isn’t to score goals!

    Reet, I’m off anyway, the badgers are kicking off again. :roll: Laters…..

  43. 43
    richietoon says:

    Doubt it would be Shola anyway, if Ba plays it would be him and Best I think.

  44. 44
    Pootle says:

    Absolutely right Richie.
    We were that close to winning it.

    The time under Keegan in the 90′s was by a country mile the best and most sustained period of quality, entertaining football at Newcastle in my lifetime. That deserves respect in my book.

  45. 45
    Big Dave says:

    Thats a hard one most other outfield players I would say need to have time to get to know their team-mates etc, but a Striker that allready knows and plays with Ba ??? I would maybe just throw him in.

    KK was the best thing to happen to our club in the modern era, and I have no doubt that without him we would never have achieved the highs we have had or the excitment, I often feel sorry for the younger fans that they never had the chance to be part of that.

  46. 46
    Shamrock says:

    Aye, it was exciting times – but I stand by the ascertation that Keegan cocked up. Does not matter how well Manure played during the run in, that title was ours to lose. Agree that it was the best football we have seen in a long time though, even the neutrals loved us!

    That said, Sir Bobby took us pretty close again during his stint. People forget his era for some reason. His was a more balanced style of play, but again it did not take us over the line – so it’s all relative.

    Happy days indeed :)

  47. 47
    wolfie says:

    I agree that Keegans’ first stint as manager and even as a player brought this club to life in terms of excitement and I was glad to see it all as it was one major highlight of supporting Newcastle out of many hiccups.

    To be talked about as a force in those days with other players from other teams mentioning us as title certainties made my bollocks fill with a creamy slightly salted substance completed with a small but effective sex tickle at the tip of my hows your father.

    I can remember subscribing to the black and white magazines and reading them on the toilet and getting so excited that I would often apply a few splashes of brut after shave to my bollocks ,whilst reading and day dreaming.
    Aye, those were certainly the days and the build up of Philadelphia was in abundance those days, due to leakage.

    Happy times. :grin:

  48. 48
    Pootle says:

    Agreed Dave. Although perhaps it does explain the blaise attitude some people show towards Keegan and also why some folk seem happy with mediocrity. The buzz and the excitement back then was just, well, impossible to convey in words!

    Ba and Cisse HAVE to start as soon as possible.
    Shola is shit and has been for as long as I can remember and I reckon a ‘not settled in’ Cisse will still be better than Best.

  49. 49
    Toby le Rhone says:

    For a minute I thought i read in the article that “Best was playing well”

  50. 50
    Shamrock says:

    Why is best getting so much stick lately? He has been the foil for Ba’s 15 goals this season and scored a quality goal himself the other day. He’s not that bad. Granted Cisse is obviously a far better player, but zero experience in this league up against a robust Blackburn 2 days after playing in an International competition on a different continent is not a recipe for hitting the ground running.

    Personally dont mind who starts the game, just hope people dont start panning the lad if he goes 4 or 5 games without a goal and a few poor performances…

  51. 51
    icedog says:

    on kk lets be fair jabba brings out the worse in people :grin: :grin:

  52. 52
    Shamrock says:

    Good point Icedog, our 2 superstars of the past 20 years – Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan – are people Jabba can expect no Christmas cards from any time soon! :lol:

  53. 53
    Pootle says:

    I don’t think Best is playing particularly badly.
    He is better than Shola. I just think Cisse will be better again, even if it is a bit ‘in at the deep end’.

    I would start Cisse and change to Best in the second half.
    We need Cisse and Ba to gel as soon as possible to capitalise on our league position.

  54. 54
    Pootle says:

    Maybe princess leia will choke the fat cunt before he gets to send his Christmas cards.

  55. 55
    wolfie says:

    We are too far into the season not to give a start to a fully fit 9 million striker.
    I’m not exactly saying he will play against Blackburn for the whole game but I wouldn’t rule it out, although I would imagine he would get a cameo role maybe .
    I think Best has done well for us when called upon and to be fair we have 3 really decent options now, with Shola as a back up sub added to that.

  56. 56
    wolfie says:

    POOTLE, Ashley is the best owner we have ever had in terms of making the club stand on it’s own two feet and begging to no one.

    Our other owners looked good because they mortgaged the club to death to finance trophy type signings but all bailed out when the heat was turned up.
    At least if Ashley ever bailed out, we would be in perfect health, basically like buying a brand new car for any potential owners, which I hope we don’t get as I’d rather see Ashley continue in this vein as this club is extremely professionally well run from top to bottom now.

  57. 57
    Pootle says:

    Best is ok and no better.
    I wouldn’t count Shola as a back up to anything – he’s hopeless. We’d get more movement if we stuck a sandbag in the opposition box. It would probably get caught offside less too.

  58. 58
    icedog says:

    i just hope fans give cisse time to gel some think we are going to smach every team we play,just have to remember this is a bloody hard lge,ime sure pardew is working on the best way to supply the front two but it takes time theres eight other out–field players to work on ;-)

  59. 59
    Pootle says:

    For someone who seems to like cock so much I don’t understand why you fancy Ashley. His will probably be like a little walnut whip buried under a mountain of lard.
    :lol:

  60. 60
    wolfie says:

    POOTLE, Shola , “in my opinion” is a decent last 30 minute player but deffo not a 90 minute player.
    He’s the type that can win you games against a tired defence.

  61. 61
    wolfie says:

    POTTLE, you’re wrong about Ashley, as he’s hung like a well hung donkey and under that shirt, is a six pack. ;-)

  62. 62
    Pootle says:

    You don’t have to say ‘in my opinion’, dude. I know its your opinion and your entitled to it.
    I think Shola is wank. We should get in a young, hungry striker to replace him. Best can be the 30 minute back-up substitute now.

  63. 63
    TonyGreenSupreme says:

    Big Dave,
    Ya bairn mullered me :cry:

  64. 64
    wolfie says:

    POOTLE, don’t forget we have FA cup games to play and also a game against the Mackems coming up where Shola once again dons his superman suit. :grin:
    I’m not saying Pardew will play him often or anything but I still maintain that he’s a good last 30 minute player or even 20 minutes.

  65. 65
    Pootle says:

    The only six pack Ashley has is the six pack of Carnation milk he puts on his cornflakes every morning.

  66. 66
    icedog says:

    POOTLE,your to kind to shola,along with smith there a bloody nightmare :evil:

  67. 67
    wolfie says:

    POOTLE, I bet you would accept a free pint off Ashley if you met him in a pub. :grin:

  68. 68
    Pootle says:

    I wouldn’t use Shola as a draft excluder . He couldn’t trap a fucking breeze.
    I’ve seen him out-jumped by people 7 inches shorter than him.
    He gets more flags waving than the fucking Queen.
    Best should be a sub and our fourth striker sub slot should be used to find some promising youngster.

  69. 69
    Pootle says:

    I would Wolfie. It would save me tipping my own drink over him.

  70. 70
    Sharpy17 says:

    Pootle – agreed, time for Shola to be moved on now like and use Best as that impact sub. I’d be looking at a player like Rhodes or De Jong to come in and be that hungry young striker we need.

    This might not sit well with some of you, but I’m watch the ACoNs and Tiote is obviously playing.
    He’s not really stood out for me like, hasn’t played poorly but if we are offered £20-25m for him – he certainly doesnt look a £20m player to me at the moment.
    I would, however, take Kalou

  71. 71
    Big Dave says:

    :lol: TGS mate he was over the moon that you accepted him and played :grin: I asked him what were ye like he said ‘he’s not bad but he hides alot’ :razz:
    I play with him sometimes but im not that good either, he normally gets 14-20 odd kills a game I normally only get anything from 7 upwards :oops: but its good craic at times ;-)

  72. 72
    Axel says:

    I would say put Cisse on the bench and play Best and Ba for the first couple of games after the 2 Africans return . I dont think it would be fair to drop Best straight away , the lad has been playing well enough to stay in the team . Its not his fault that his strike partner at the minute is a lazy sod who these days produces a decent move once every 2 or 3 games . Shola is past his best .

  73. 73
    Big Dave says:

    Wolfie @ 67 if he bought me a pint I would throw it round him and tell him you cant buy everything, cause some things and Fans arnt for sale ;-)

  74. 74
    icedog says:

    come on lads fill me in who knows owt,sky transfer clockwatch saying real big transfer news at toon at week-end :shock: :shock:

  75. 75
    wolfie says:

    BIGDAVE, I’m sure you would mate ;-)

  76. 76
    Shamrock says:

    I dont give a toss what he looks like at the ACON. He’s immense for us. Cant believe people would be willing to let him go. NOBODY else in our squad offers what he does. He’s a bloody man eating machine and they are rare these days. We were lucky to find him, he would be almost impossible to replace.

    I dont think people understand just how influential he is for us. You’ll soon realise once he’s gone if he does get sold.

  77. 77
    wolfie says:

    ICEDOG, Samba.

  78. 78
    Shamrock says:

    Axel @72 – Spot on. :smile:

  79. 79
    icedog says:

    WOLFIE thing is it didnt in or out :shock:

  80. 80
    Shamrock says:

    Ice – It must be incoming. ANY outgoing sale would not be mind blowing, as it’s half expected. Interesting if true…

  81. 81
    Pootle says:

    Seriously Wolfie, if Ashley gets in a DECENT versatile defender in the Pieters mould (or a decent CB and fullback) and a decent winger with a good rate of assists (Obertan may come good with time, but there’s no sign yet, and Marveaux is perma-crocked) and gets rid of dead wood like Smith and NONE of our decent first team players, then and only then, will I think he has done a DECENT job.

  82. 82
    Shamrock says:

    Who is Adam Beckett though?! :???:

  83. 83
    Rodzilla says:

    I concur Shamrock. Tiote is a vital cog in our wheel, and I’m sure he’d be very difficult to replace. Especially for the amount of money Chubby would be likely to invest on a DM.

  84. 84
    Rodzilla says:

    …what have I missed???? :shock:

  85. 85
    Big Dave says:

    Ice @ 79 must be in as we have another £15- 17 mill to spend :lol:

  86. 86
    Axel says:

    As for Tiote i don’t want him sold he is a massive miss for the team and we need a cover player for him , AZ Alkmaar’s Wernbloom would be an ideal signing .The guy is just as good as Tiote with the same energy and can get stuck in just as hard .

  87. 87
    icedog says:

    smith will hang on to his 60grand till the last minute which means the summer,leeds did try for him he said he loves leeds, bullshit he a greedy git nowt to do with love of the game :evil:

  88. 88
    Pootle says:

    The only way in which the sale of Tiote (or any of our big guns for that matter) would be acceptable to me, would be if we were to use the money to IMMEDIATELY strengthen with players of the same or better quality.
    No more of the ‘in the next window’ bullshit.

  89. 89
    icedog says:

    DAVE wolfie did say we would spend 25mil this window,ime holding him to it

  90. 90
    Big Dave says:

    Ice @ 89 oh I know he did :lol: :lol: :lol:

  91. 91
    Sharpy17 says:

    I didn’t say I wanted him sold, I just don’t think he has been the player this season that he was last season and £20-25m would probs be about his value at the moment.
    I hope we keep all of our top players and add to the them, both in Jan and the summer.
    I was more saying that £20-25m would be a fair valuation

  92. 92
    Munich Mag says:

    Icedog…you’re right about Smith, but in fairness 60 Grand a week buys you a lot of Dickmans pies, you cannot blame him for not leaving the club. Ditto that other waster Xisco. The blokes who decided to pay them those salaries need there heeds looking at.

    I would play Demba and Best up front, with Cisse coming on in the second half. It makes sense to give Cisse his full debut at SJP ….

  93. 93
    icedog says:

    MM dont think you can them pies noo :sad: my first port of call a one time.

    tiote has been booked thats strange :lol:

  94. 94
    icedog says:

    the ressie getting a footy lesson 5-0 :roll:

  95. 95
    Robert says:

    Reserves losing 5-0 at Man U, not pretty to watch

  96. 96
    icedog says:

    since wor peter left them they have been shite :sad:

  97. 97
    Robert says:

    6-0, painful

  98. 98
    Robert says:

    Big lads against bairns

  99. 99
    Troy Stavers says:

    Lads, ive been doing a few facial exercises which have done wonders for my looks and would like to pass on a few Stavers secrets so we have the best looking bloggers of all blogs;

    Let’s start off with exercise 1. ;
    Chewing chewer! 
    Choice of Chewer is essential and I find Hubba Bubba to be choice of facial champions!
    Chew like Sir Alex Ferguson does when Man U are getting beat.  Combine this with exercise 2. 

    Exercise 2;
    Smile;
     Smiling uses all the essential facial muscles. It costs nothing. I’ve found that spending as much time of the day smiling really lifts your cheeks. 
    Put the two exercises together, chew chewer and smile in every situation! 
    Bereavement in the family? Chew and smile! 
    Crashed the car in the back of another car?
    Chew and smile!
    Combine these two fabulous exercises with the next;

    Eyebrow raises;
    Lift the eyebrows up and down for sets of 100 consecutively. Stop for 5 seconds and start again. 
    Combine this with your smiling and chewing and I assure you your facial muscles will be turning pert and firm by the hour. 

    I’ve been doing this for a solid week now since reading Joan Rivers book of facial exercises and boy does it work!!

    I feeeeel sooo young like noo.  :shock:

  100. 100
    Munich Mag says:

    Wehey….what a complete wazzock…. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    What a diamond geezer…..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/26/harry-redknapp-police-interview-trial

  101. 101
    icedog says:

    MsiDouglas Mark Douglas
    Developments in the Mariappa chase over the last 24 hours. More in #thejournal tomorrow
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  102. 102
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Are some of you guys blind. Tiote is the best defensive midfielder in the premier league. Recall the heavy defeats we have had this year and he has been out of the side. It is him who makes our defence as good as it is. If Fulham can rip us apart why didn’t Manure. Simple Tiote broke up their attacking play. He is the best there is.

  103. 103
    Big Dave says:

    Troy them eyebrow raiser are working a treat lad ;-)

  104. 104
    Sharpy17 says:

    TLR – I you really think that the win against Man U was down to Tiote being in the team and the defeat to Fulham was because he wasn’t youre deluded. He’s a very good but he’s not that influential. 11 players came out after half time at Craven Cottage and 11 players had switched off and played poorly, there’s is nothing Tiote could have done to change that.
    I’m not blind I just believe Tiotes value would be fair at £20-25m. All players have a value.

  105. 105
    Munich Mag says:

    Sharpy17, while you are right to a degree about Tiote, there is no way that we would have capitulated in the second half against Fulham with him in the side. No way.. ;-)

  106. 106
    Rodzilla says:

    …I’m not sure who Toby’s having a pop at to be honest, Sharpy. I can only see praise for Tiote on this thread. I’d agree with your valuation at 20m, but only in relation to other transfer prices. I personally think we got very lucky with him, and would struggle to replace him, big style.

  107. 107
    Alimagpie says:

    Just to go off a bit, just been watching sky and reports say Birmingham would accept offers of 2 million for Ridgewell surely we have to be in for him again as we tried last January. Would be a better signing than the Watford centre half as is proven in the prem and seems to be far cheaper.

  108. 108
    Munich Mag says:

    Well the toon sprogs got cuffed 6-0 by Man Ure tonight. A bit of an eye-opener for young Abeid I would imagine.. :roll:

  109. 109
    icedog says:

    MM ime afraid they were a class above them imo :sad:

  110. 110
    Munich Mag says:

    Ice….the great toon hope Remie Streete was also playing….. Bad scene all round if you ask me… :sad:

  111. 111
    Rodzilla says:

    AliMagpie, that’s what they paid for him 4 years ago. I’d take him. Perfect backup for LB and CB, and bags of experience. Might be a little old at 27 :roll: , but would be a quality addition for 1.5 – 2m.

  112. 112
    Sharpy17 says:

    Munich – fair enough, your entitled to that but I disagree. That 2nd half was just freaky, was as a team stopped playing and they as a team completely upped their game and theres as much chance Tiote would have got frustrated and got himself sent off trying to get the tackles in to break the play up – who knows, it means nothing now anyway.
    Just surprised to be accused of being blind for acknowledging Tiotes one of our best players and putting a valuation on the kid.

  113. 113
    Toby le Rhone says:

    My point is 25million is a lot of money but it is no good to you if the team is crap

  114. 114
    Sharpy17 says:

    Ali – I saw that on sky earlier and thought the same, defo better than the Watford lad and a readonable amount to spend on a cover player. He isnt gonna force any of the first teamers out but will be a reliable player to have in the squad and seems a good pro

  115. 115
    The Kid says:

    It’s not unreasonable to suggest Tiote is the reason why we beat United and lost to Fulham. It’s partly down to how good he is, but mostly down to how integral his role is to our side.

    Against United he snuffed out everything in that central area.

    Look where most of Fulham’s goals came from; the central area.
    When Tiote plays, our defence plays that little bit deeper. It’s still a relatively high line, but not as high as when Guthre plays. Guthrie/Cabaye leave a massive gap between midfield and defence, which forces our defenders further up the pitch to narrow the space.

    Very dangerous game to play with two slow CB’s. If we sell Tiote we won’t need to replace him with another rock. Yes, we will still need to recruit a quality DM(There are quite a few around right now), but more importantly we will need to sign a pacey CB that can make up the ground when the ball is played in behind. That way we won’t be as reliant on a DM to alleviate the pressure from our defence.

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    Munich Mag says:

    TLR@113. Spot on regarding the 25 mill, but do you really think we are crap without Tiote ? :sad:

  117. 117
    Sharpy17 says:

    Toby – wouldn’t disagree with that ;-)

    The kid – I think Tiote certainly played a major part in the Man U win and was a big miss against Fulham. But I would suggest Ba was the difference in the 2 games. He was outstanding against Man U and against Fulham, well I think if Ba was playing against Fulham he would have been on the scoresheet in the first half and probably his presence on the pitch would not have gave Fulham the confidence to push on as aggressively in the second half – we shall never know :roll:

  118. 118
    Alimagpie says:

    It’s not Tiote I’m worried about going, be totally gutted if he did like. It’s Collo I’m worried about as still no news on renewed contract and Man City desperate for a centre back after that shocking display by Slavic in semis gets me really worried.

  119. 119
    DJG says:

    Lee Ryder.

    ‘PAPISS CISSE could be set for a quicker than expected Newcastle United debut against Blackburn Rovers next week.

    Ba and United new No 9 Cisse COULD even be back in a black and white shirt in time for the Magpies’ next Premier League game at Blackburn in six days time.’

    Does that even make sense? Hasn’t he just said the same thing twice. :???:

  120. 120
    batty says:

    munich >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51h9GM6sHSo&feature=related tiote against rooney a meen man u :smile:

  121. 121
    Big Dave says:

    So basically all our defenders played very poorly, even steady Colo because Tiote wasn’t playing :???: . Yeah Tiote is important but I don’t think you can say it was solely down to him.

  122. 122
    DJG says:

    The Kid

    I think it’s fair to say Fulham have a bit more firepower in that central area than Man U at the moment though. Man U are desperate, Giggs is ancient and Carrick is over-rated.

    I just think it was one of those games where the other team comes out and plays 100% better, even Tiote probably wouldn’t have completely stopped it.

  123. 123
    batty says:

    have any of you seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU :lol: :lol: :lol: daft c unts

  124. 124
    Tsunki says:

    The Kid @ 115 – Y’know sometimes you are so annoying for the simple reason that you are spot on and said just what I was going to say, just about. I was starting to get a bit irked at Tiote’s penchant for trying to find the weirdest pass instead of the simplest one, or holding on to the ball a bit too long before being forced into a 2nd choice pass, but that’s just nit-picking – he is a tour de force in midfield, sticks to the central area and dominates it like a terrifying…..dominating….thing. Oh yeah we would miss him if he was sold (which I still think highly possible btw). In that case there would be brown cords all round to find a like-for-like. Guthries’ been great but too offensive (too keen?) and together with his partnering offensive – minded midfield this leaves the back four suddenly and alarmingly exposed. Jol spotted this and hammered us for it. Tiote’s return should see normal service resume, Hopefully

    As for Starting our No. 9 straightaway, no real reason why not BUT…. Pards’ style is to acclimatise until HE is happy the player fits not only into the Prem but his style and shape of team. he may not want to demoralise the likes of HBA by fast-tracking him. He may just want Cisse to feel the love by a few late introductions accompanied by the rousing sort of appreciation HBA gets. And Best may not be a great scoring striker, but he is a good strike partner, not to be underestimated if you loo back at the first half of our season.

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    Big Dave says:

    Batts @ 123 :shock: fuking hell :lol: :lol: :lol:
    How did you find that :?:

  126. 126
    batty says:

    dave :lol: :lol: wor shan got it frrom a m8 at school

  127. 127
    DJG says:

    Thats deff fake batty. AK-47 doesn’t even sound like that, it sound like ‘bang bang bang’ that is like ‘pop pop pop’. :lol:

  128. 128
    Tsunki says:

    Er.. its a viral for Rise of the Planet of the Apes. You did know that? Yeah we knew that. :roll:

  129. 129
    batty says:

    djg the weapons expert how many aks you fired :lol: :lol:

  130. 130
    batty says:

    night kids :smile:

  131. 131
    Big Dave says:

    Batts take it easy mate ;-)

  132. 132
    Sharpy17 says:

    Batty – that’s fucking class, nee wonder they hang them in Hartlepool – dangerous little fecker :lol:

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    NorCal Toonfan says:

    Batty – I guess you’re gone by now, but that Chimp video was hilarious. And that Tiote video is just awesome. Perfect theme song for him. Here in the US, when a baseball player steps up to the plate, a lot of times you’ll here a bit of a song played as they walk up to the plate…each has a theme song apparently. If Tiote played baseball, this would be his song.

    I say throw in Cisse as a sub personally…maybe last 10 minutes. He won’t have much of an impact, but it would give the fans a chance to see him and him at least an intro to the league.

  134. 134
    Tsunki says:

    Well i just thought a little intellectually stimulating toon chat & speculation would be just the thing and what do I get? Violent chimps. No change there then :lol:

  135. 135
    Stuart79 says:

    Put the fcker in. He’s better than what’s in the team at the minute, but having said that, so am I!

  136. 136
    Tsunki says:

    Can I remind you, gentlemen, as we look forward to the Blackburn game, wondering whether we can get the Demba’s paired up form the off, that this is hat we can do to our Lancashire cousins without either of them

    http://www.48fm.com/fairplay/2012/01/07/newcastle-vs-blackburn-2-1-video/

  137. 137
    Tsunki says:

    Wish I had more keys on this thing…. :sad:

  138. 138
    NorCal Toonfan says:

    Maybe so, TSUNKI, but how much more fun would it be to do that WITH them?

  139. 139
    Tsunki says:

    Norcal -Ohhhhh yeahhhh :twisted:

  140. 140
    NorCal Toonfan says:

    I am a “glass is half-full” kind of guy, what can I say.

  141. 141
    richietoon says:

    Dave@125 that was my Army basic training video, lent it to batty and never got it back :lol:

    DJG…Ryder is saying exactly what we said straight after the match last night, the guys a knob :???:

    Who’s the fat baldy fecker singing there…..oh it’s me :lol: :lol:
    you tube link @ comment 55
    http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=666844&page=6

  142. 142
    JJ says:

    Cisse has to be put in straight away, based solstice on the fact that even at his worst he would offer more than Shola.

    I wouldn’t put Shola in my Sunday league team. The soon he gets used to the pace of the Premiership the better.

  143. 143
    NorCal Toonfan says:

    Ah Richie, you’re a right looker, aren’t ye?

  144. 144
    richietoon says:

    Norcal…thats one way of putting it :lol:

  145. 145
    richietoon says:

    Norcal….as it’s on a mackem blog and is posted by a smoggie, should I be proud or ashamed? :mrgreen:

  146. 146
    NorCal Toonfan says:

    I think Proud. I think it’s funny and shows how obsessed with the Toon they are. Perhaps they are regretting their lot in life. You do us proud.

  147. 147
    NorCal Toonfan says:

    well, When I say “Us.” I should clarify I mean fans of Toon, obviously I am no Geordie, heck, I am not even English…lol. Well, only be Ancestry 8 times removed.

  148. 148
    DJG says:

    “Hope there is not much trouble.”

    Why lie?

    A few scuffles and you will wank yourself to death.

    Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=666844&page=6#ixzz1kcBKmoBW

    :lol:

    Nowt better than Mackems and Smoggies arguing about who’s club is the least shit. :smile:

  149. 149
    nobby says:

    Late (i know… as always)

    Hasn’t Pardew got a performance related system… if you play well you’re in but you don’t just start because you’re a big name? I quite like that philosophy, it keeps everyone on their toes. Cisse should be treated no differently.

    An arguement for Cisse hitting the ground running is that, watching him, he does seem like the type of player who could handle it. Movement, very strong and fast. He’s perfect for the Premiership.

    Put it this way, it would be great if he did hit the ground running but if Pards’ intergrates him slowly – I wouldn’t be too disheartned. We’ll still have Ba there to put another 3 past blackburn :mrgreen:

  150. 150
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Batty

    I’ve analysed that video over and over again.

    It’s a fake.

    It’s not a real chimp . It’s a young lad in a monkey suit but sorry DJG, it is a real AK 47. I can tell by the ballistic power/sound ratio as the bullets leave the gun chamber. I’ve read the books. :shock:

  151. 151
    toonsy says:

    Just off to the midwife with the Mrs. Will get writing when I get back :)

  152. 152
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy how long has she to go now ?
    Troy I think they might have been blanks, as they would produce the same noise etc but they normally generate a bit of smoke from the barrel ?

  153. 153
    nobby says:

    What’s the crack with Samba?

    He was on sky sports news this morning begging – practically praying for somebody, anybody to come and buy him.

    If he wants to go then surely that’ll decrease the asking price.

    Howay Ashley! Show us how deep your pockets actually go. Let’s push for 5th!

  154. 154
    nobby says:

    Troy – do you still think Cheick is going? :?: :?:

  155. 155
    richietoon says:

    “Toonsy how long has she to go now ?”….it’s only a 10 minute drive Dave :roll: :lol:

    Hope all goes well Toonsy…and nae porving at the midwife ;-)

  156. 156
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Nobby

    According to my source it’s defo a done deal. Spoke yesterday.

  157. 157
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Troy – arent you a bit sceptical considering the acon wont let anyone go now for transfers?

  158. 158
    Troy Stavers says:

    @BD

    What about the chimp theory? Do you think it’s a kid in a suit? If you look closely you can see the stitching . :-0

  159. 159
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Nobby

    Where have you read that? Do they not just fly out to them with the paperwork? Bit lost with that one .

  160. 160
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    On another note i dont want mariappa…..

    Lads got a bit of an exclusive but wary of revealing as its second hand info.
    However a friend of my mine ‘reckons’ he saw convoy of cars go into SJP and he ‘thought’ it looked like young zaha with his rep.

    Take it with a pinch of salt he wouldnt lie but easy to get a bit carried away :roll:

  161. 161
    Big Dave says:

    Troy I beg to differ mate I don’t think its a kid in a suit, I think it’s that dwarf guy Warwick, as an AK is a bit heavy for a kid to throw about like that, unless he is a real strong kid?

  162. 162
    Troy Stavers says:

    @liam

    Sorry my last was meant for you not Nobby.

  163. 163
    Troy Stavers says:

    Its when the chimp shouts pow pow that gives it away.

  164. 164
    Big Dave says:

    Yeah I think Troy is right sure the player doesn’t need to do owt except sign his name, the agent will do all the work and when its settled the player just signs his autograph.

  165. 165
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Troy – i didnt think they were allowed during tournaments. You cant do it in euros or world cup so assumed was same for ACON

  166. 166
    toonsy says:

    Dave – Ten weeks mate :shock:

  167. 167
    richietoon says:

    Liam….players have signed during tournaments in the past including WC’s and Euros ;-)

  168. 168
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Liam

    Check out Battys video earlier in this thread and tell me whether the chimp is a kid in a chimp suit.

    It’s obvious to me. Look for the stitching.

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  171. 171
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Richie – really :oops:
    Im going to check haha thought id read that somewhere :grin:

    Batty :lol: – however I am with troy looks like a kid ….but it also looks like very good editing if you watch the gun it doesnt look slightly real :?:

  172. 172
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Batty

    It’s the same kidda in the same chimp suit!

    If you zoom in you can see the air vent on the back of the head. :-0

  173. 173
    batty says:

    Troy dave told me it was jay jay :smile:

  174. 174
    Troy Stavers says:

    Those aren’t real chimps on the PG Tips adverts either. How can a chimp say, ” CUP O TEA LOVE?”

    Impossible man! :shock:

  175. 175
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Batts it is hilarious though :lol:

  176. 176
    Big Dave says:

    Batts nah I was wrong jay isn’t that tall

  177. 177
    toon22 says:

    Troy wouldn’t Tiote have to come over for a medical and if this deal has been agreed for as long as you say it has surely it would have been done by now. I wouldn’t put anything past Ashley mind and wouldn’t be suprised that we flog him on the last day of the window so he has £25 million getting interest for him in his bank.
    Also Liam there is a rumour going round this morning that we have had a £5.5m bid accepted for Hoilett so could have been him. But there is so meany rumours going around its probably a load of rubbish.

  178. 178
    richietoon says:

    Liam…..I think so, sure it’s happened in the past, though I can’t think of any of the top of my head so apologies if wrong but don’t think there’s owt in the rules, as long as the transfer window is open….or a player has let his contract run down or been released. Obviously he’d probably need permission from his counties FA to bugga of for medicals etc.

  179. 179
    Whumpie says:

    Marnin’ smegs. No article to talk bollicks about?? :shock:

  180. 180
    Troy Stavers says:

    @toon22

    I would imagine the regime want to leave it til the last minute so they don’t have the pressure of fans expectations to spend the cash.

  181. 181
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    What anyone think of that though about zaha?
    Even if it wasnt him it couldnt have been a player coming in?

  182. 182
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Oh troy after ice mentioned about nufcblog.com went on there and someone used your expression of ‘if that player comes in ill show my arse in fenwicks window’ …… :shock:

    He was called max on there ….. alter ego :lol:

    And for the record ice was right bunch of school kids. :roll:

  183. 183
    JJ says:

    Liam
    I beg to differ, not a bunch of school kids. Kids are intellegent.

    More a bunch of uneducated juvenile delinquents. I actually can’t make sense of 90% of the posts on Ed’s blog. Its like English is there fourth language and they started suporting the Toon last week.

    Seriously shocked at how the standard has dropped.

  184. 184
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    JJ :lol:

    First time ive really looked in a year or so and its always seemed the same!

  185. 185
    toon22 says:

    @Troy
    Anyone sensible wouldn’t do that but our owners aren’t sensible and wouldn’t care if there was a massive back lash for selling Tiote. Has your source been correct in the past?

  186. 186
    JJ says:

    *By the way, I totally intended to spell “supporting” wrong :mrgreen: :oops:

  187. 187
    JJ says:

    Troy’s source is his crystal ball which is obviously in need of a major service.

    No way Tiote will leave this transfer window. Maybe in the summer.

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