No deal for Mariappa
This comes as the strongest link we’ve had with a defender looks set to join Wigan who have had a bid accepted by Watford – a bid that is said to be lower than ours!
So it looks likely that there will be no Adrian Mariappa at Newcastle, no defensive cover, and no hope should an injury occur to either Mike Williamson or Fabricio Coloccini in the final 16 games of the season.
I’m finding it hard to be annoyed about this to be honest. I mean I would have loved us to have got some defensive cover in, but I’ve maintained all along that Mariappa wasn’t the answer. What is the point in bringing in backup who isn’t any better than the backup you already have? Essentially we’d be in the same pickle, with or without Mariappa.
At this point people will tell me that Adrian Mariappa had a good game against Tottenham at the weekend which is true, but basing an opinion on just one game is a flawed argument. I remember when James Perch had Jonas Gutierrez in his pocket a couple of seasons ago… Point made.
However we’ve had the time to look at better options and have failed to do so which risks disrupting what could potentially be a cracking season for us. Of course there is still time in the window for things to change, but at the moment it’s looking unlikely and we’ll end up with no defensive cover until Steven Taylor returns. Get well soon Steven. Very soon!
Of course every cloud has a silver lining and this transfer window has been no different. Defensive cover was our priority, but we did manage to bring in a new striker in the guise of highly-rated Senegal international Papiss Demba Cisse, which was quite a fillip when it happened a couple of weeks ago.
You see, it’s not all bad news, and at the moment we’re yet to sell anyone which for a fan if NUFC is an absolute bonus under this regime!
With a few hours remaining, I’d be reasonably happy if it stayed that way!
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I really think the club should have focused on bringing in a loan at CB and then tried to sign a younger up and coming type player in the summer. it doesn’t make a lot of sense to spend much on a CB when Taylor will be back for next seson.
It looks as though both Vertongen and Mbiwa (sorry about spellings) will be available in the summer, so it’s understandable the club don’t want to break the bank to bring cover in now.
As has been proved with the Cisse deal, they will spend money if the right player is available.
Ba humbug.
Mds do u think Collo willbe with us next season
Steve – we should know soon enough. Club said they would try and sort his contract after the window, and his agent was supposed to be flying over in the next few days too! Fingers crossed!
Its not just cover for injuries we need, although I suspect Collo might be playing with one at the miit. It is a red card, 10 bookings, or retrospective suspension we also need cover for. Perch was good against a championship team last week, but we wont be playing any more of them this season
HOLY CRAP!!!!
Check out SSN…
Shola has signed for Barca!!!
http://www.skybet.com/cms/breaking-transfer-news.shtm?name=Shola+Ameobi
TC, apart from Cisco, Collo is the last of our ‘overpaid players’ left Do you think his agent will let him sign a contract for half his current basic wages. And do you think MA will let him run down the last year of his contract to leave on afree, when he can get a fee for hi
m this summer 
There`s time yet, maybe Mariappa was a smoke screen as Watford denied final bid received today.—Maybe a Cisse like covert bid on the cards?
Steve – no I don’t think his agent will let him sign a contract for half his wages cos I don’t think that is what he will be offered. Therefore that would be mental.
Oi oi radgies!
Sitting wi Dekka and Big Mick noo at wor hoose in Benwell.
Pure class watching this sky sports like. Big Micks off his box on tack and is phoning up Watford taking the piss!
He keeps putting in spoof bids for this crap defender! He’s off his napper and howling when Pardew hand on the tele.
Dekka is proper smashed and knocking oot some rave tunes on me new decks a got for crippa.
Here man! Big Mick was saying before, ” ROTARY, PURE MUGS THE TOON FANS LIKE IF THEY THINK AM GANNA BUY ANOTHER PLAYER LIKE”.
You’ve got to respect Big Mick for being honest like! Thats canny shweeet a think cos he could just say nowt y’kna. Pure doylem like Pardew like. Big Mick telt him to gan on telly and pretend wu ganna try and buy someone. Everytime he comes on the box, Big Mick rubs his hairy arse on the screen!
Pure utter respect .
Here, the bizzies are knockin on the door so am ganna nash cos a reckon they’ve foond me stash of lead a nicked from the school roof last neet.
Just tek some whizz afore a nash cos a kna the doylems winnit catch is like when am fully chalked up like!
Laters Gaters!
Toon! Toon!
bigsteve…..i dont think colo is overpaid at all. he is our rock and is one of the best defenders we have ever had. we should offer him a new deal on same money over four years then a coaching role.
…”fillip” indeed. Well Toonsy you’ve taught me a new word there. Happy Days!
So Wigan are a bigger club than Toon – unbelievable. Perhaps we should ask to take someone like Colo Toure on loan and offer to pay £2000 per week of his wages.
Can only hope we have bigger fish to fry this evening but expect now we can’t go down or win anything that will be it until the summer
TC, I found it funny anyway.
Ridgewell obviously didn’t want to leave Birmigham anyway. He’s been there since he was 18.
B1GSTEVE says:
January 31, 2012 at 15:34
Mds do u think Collo willbe with us next season
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I guess I’m an optimistic one but i think he’ll sign a new contract. he seems to have really settled and he is different from the other high earners that left in that he keeps his head down and mouth shut. Plus, he plays a simple, smart man’s game which should allow him to be effective for awhile yet. They’ll have to at least keep him on his current wages to do so though and give him an extra 3 years
Thanks Rod
These young un’s with their cordless android pods probably can’t even open the link.
I gave you credit for it on the last thread, and promptly emailed on the link
Ridgewell to West Brom done deal 2.5 mill surely we could have gone for him as we did last season. Does nobody from the British leagues want to do business with Newcastle. I think Llambyarse pisses them all off.!!!
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Alimagpie, he’s moved from Villa to Birmingham to West Brom in the last 10 years, so my guesses are he’s too settled in the Midlands and was never a likely candidate for a move up North.
Fair one Rodzilla, shame like. Just seen that Mariappa wants to come to toon, will just have to wait and see but I’m not holding my breath
BBC Live Text:
“Micky Gray in Leeds via text, on 81111: “Just seen Clint Dempsey at Kings Cross getting on a train to Newcastle. Wouldn’t comment why.”
Yeah Ali, I’m certainly not counting any chickens until 11:01pm
Clint Dempsey to the Toon, doubt that very very much
Corluka went out on loan and would have offered us good cover. Bassong may still be available too. The players are there for us if we want them! We just seem to be overlooking loan deals even though I believe that would be our most viable option.
Maybe the Mackems are going to sign him?
Always bring Sol Cambell back ha ha
if micky gray is in leeds how the hell did he see dempsey get on a train in london
Now that it’s clear no one coming in i hope to god we don’t let anyone go or lose anymore defenders to injuries or red cards. Also Alimagpie@20- don’t laugh but iv’e long thought that Eng clubs don’t like doing business with us because of Lamearse and his bull in a china shop approach ,vile man imo.
I guess we are looking for positives after a disappointing window it seems. Do people really think Perch is as good as Mariappa at the centre back position? I would think not. Even if we bring in a proper CB in the summer (and if we don’t lose Colo in which case we need at least 2) then we will still need cover at CB! This is ridiculous, it just keeps going round and round with no answer. We have added depth and quality at almost every other position yet nothing done at CB for a few years now. Why is that? We have all seen what happens when either Colo or Willo (or both) go down. It has been a glaring deficiency for a couple of seasons now. By spending 8 or 9 million on Cisse will we have any money at all to spend in the summer or is that it for the year? How can we let such a promising league position potentially just slip away? Bizarre to say the least but nothing new for us I guess.
He’s got a really powerful telescope Hitman.
To be fair on watford/mariappa, he’s much more likely to get 1st team footie at wigan then he would for us, he’ll only be back-up and when Taylor is back fit he’ll be forth/fifth choice. If Tottenham/Rednapp weren’t tools I’d suggest we put in a reasonable bid for bassong(I know he deserted us and many hate him for it, but he’s still better than Williamson. Problem is they are tools and will ask for 8-12m despite not having played a PL match in ages.
The thing with Mariappa though Andy, is he’d be cover for both centre-back AND right-back, and most likely get a good few run-outs because of it.
Rodzilla
why would he need to cover rb, we’ve got six full-backs, four of which are right-backs
How would Mariappa be fourth or fifth choice when Saylor is back Andymag? I would rate him third or fourth choice and that is if we don’t lose Colo either now or in the summer. Who else do we have? Kadar has no future with us based on Pardew’s attitude toward him and Remie Streete is only 18 so we are threadbare. I won’t even mention Perch as a CB because he has no future there. At best he is cover for a defensive midfield position but really we need to get rid in the summer. Just can’t understand our approach. It appears Wigan’s bid for Mariappa has been turned down as well. Is Arsenal really interested in him? Too many rumours to sort out right now.
dembas younger brother just told me that he will be back on thursday
GeordieTwo
Saylor, Colo, Willo then Marriapa and perch, so forth.
Though since two will be playing at the same time he would be the second back-up.
G2 if no one leaves i will be happy,but cannot belive the lack of planning on a c/h the diff between 5th and 12th finish is about 3mil beats me this one
Andy, who are our 4 right backs? You’ve lost me there.
I view Santon, Raylor and an inexperienced Ferguson as Left-backs, and Simpson and Perch our only Right-backs – and neither of those two would be guaranteed a start.
Spot on icedog. This is cutting your nose off to spite your face as far as I can see. We have been horribly exposed in defense already this season in December. We will rue the day (and the windows) that we sat and did nothing to improve the defense. Llambias should be judged by what happens from now til summer by the owner. If we fall several spots in the table due to an injury to Colo or Willo he should be sacked plain and simple. Thanks I see now Andymag but almost certainly Colo is going to leave in the summer as we just will not offer him a contract extension in line with his current salary (70K a week I think).
Colo may be a bit more realistic than you think – he’s getting on, he’s not getting International recognition and he may not get those wages elsewhere. Plus I have a feeling the new wage structure is based a lot on bonus payments for results which he may well be interested in if they potentially come close to his current wage over a term where he can wind his career down.
Can’t believe that Jabba is willing to gamble that we’ll be able to maintain our position, never mind trying to push on, with out bringing in a CB that we have known we needed badly for so long.
And it appears there is fans that are ready to buy the clubd excuse that the right players wern’t available now but our main targets will be available in the summer.
@Rodzilla, he’s surely talking about Simpson, Tavernier and Perch whilst pretending Santon is a RB.
Plus I’d have to change my avatar.
Ah Blip, silly me.
The point I was trying to make before Andy jumped down my throat was Mariappa would be twice as likely to get a start as he’d be covering two positions. This is obviously why we were after him – his versatility.
nufc will contest Cabaye’s FA charge, with the backing of Brighton defender Adam El-Abd. if the ban stands, Cabaye will miss the derby
Santon is a RB. That was the position he played in most for Inter and although he can play with both feet, he certainly prefers his right.
Raylor has always been a RB.
Simmo is a RB.
Tavernier is a RB.
Perch can fill it at RB when required.
Disappointed if we don’t get a CB in but happy we have signed a cracking player in Cisse – he would have cost £15 million last summer and we got him for £9 million – the club play hard ball on transfers and won’t get rolled over- they won’t pay over the odds or more than they think a player is worth which is a good thing IMO.
Not long for Tiote and Krul to have their medicals now – thought they were definitely off to Chelsea and Spuds
ICEDOG@40- So right there mate, to me this is sheer lack of ambition . what’s the point of a great forward line if we leaking goals .We have /had a great chance of clinching 6th place but i feel we have blown that now.
Not surprised they are contesting the charge Batty but I doubt it will get overturned even with El-Abd lending his support – can’t remember it happening too often
Cabaye would be a massive miss against the mackems. What a disaster!
Sorry to have a go at some, but there’s some serious lack of understanding (and major learning difficulties) on display here today.
We KNOW that the club only sign contracts that make sense for them. So if a club wants daft terms (e.g. sell-ons) or too high a price, or an agent is taking the piss with his fee, or the player wants unreasonable wages or release clauses, etc. – then no deal. Surely we know that now??
So why is anyone surprised that the Mariappa deal hasn’t gone through and that he may go to Wigan instead? Isn’t the reason obvious?
Why say “we’ve had the time to look at better options and have failed to do so”. Based on what evidence? To me it’s clear that our recruitment machine is easily the best in the country, so if we don’t sign anyone it’s because there simply wasn’t the right deal out there for the right player.
The Toon’s recruitment machine have emphatically earned more respect than they’re getting, and it pisses me off
. We’ve got Cisse in, and so far not lost anyone we’d want to keep. Yes, we’d all like a CB and it may yet happen – but we need to deal with the fact that it’s January and good deals are as rare as hens’ teeth. It’s not lack of planning, skill, or even Llamearse’s legendary charisn’tma. It’s because the club is no longer staffed by mugs.
Rant over.
Gary I think you’re missing my point too @49.
Raylor and Santon can’t play in two positions at the same time. Yeah fair enough they’ve both played RB but seem to be preferred at LB. And if by your post you’re saying we’ve got 5 right-backs, then we’ve now only got 1 LB in Shane Ferguson.
That said, my logic with Mariappa was simply the fact he’d be cover for RB and CB, and his competition would be Perch, Simpson, Saylor, Williamson and Colo.
Cabaye hasn’t actually been done yet; the charge has just been started. So it’s far less of a stretch to think he’ll get off. Good news (and a big surprise) El-Abd is helping. He was a cheating, violent shite during the game; why the sudden morality?
Still – good news all the same. I’ve not seen a replay, but that boot in the face looked pretty innocuous and accidental to me. Hopefully the FA will agree.
Compared with the CB situation we are absolutely overflowing with potential RBs as far as I can see although I would never use Perch there. In fact I’m not sure I would let Perch be assistant to the tea lady even after the Brighton game. He looked fairly solid against them but they’re only an average Champs side sitting tenth I think. Pardew has said we had that game well in hand! He must be taking his happy pills again! Not that I blame him with Llambias as managing director. Can’t remember if I’ve ever seen such an unbalanced team. Instead of bringing in so many young midfielders (I haven’t really counted but there is Vuckic, Abeid, Gosling, Moyo, Edmundson, Inman, and Adjei so that’s at least 7) why didn’t we bring in a couple of young CB’s to train when Pardew gave up on Kadar? Is there a rumour going round that CB’s carry vile diseases? Are we afraid of CB’s? Do we consider CB’s as relatively unimportant to a team’s success? I would just like to know.
I wish someone would have asked Pardew in that press conference why he doesn’t seem to give Kadar a chance.
I’d love to know how an international defender who fits our youth policy is not even given a shot.
…that’d be Mariappa being 1 of 6 players fighting for 1 of 3 positions. It makes sense to me anyway.
Spot on, Whumpie.
Unfortunately some people don’t seem to understand how hard it is to bring anyone of any quality (even quality back up) in this window.
Most clubs will want to keep hold of their best players unless they already have a replacement – as was the case with Cisse. Some may argue that QPR seem to be doing ok, but look at who they are signing – utter shite that no one else wants!
Still gutted that Kadar hasn’t sorted himself out. He’s got all the tools; just needs the attitude adjusted. What a waste of a great opportunity for the lad.
Whumpie@54-Lack of understanding maybe but major learning difficulties i think not. never an expression to be bandied about unless you fully understand what a condition like that is like to suffer from. Very offended mate .
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BBC Sport understands that defender Adrian Mariappa will not be joining Wigan from Championship side Watford.
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BBC Sport understands that defender Adrian Mariappa will not be joining Wigan from Championship side Watford.
Now on SSN he has turned down chance to go to Wigan
We’ll sign him yet Batty
I’ve just sent Mark and Wolfie down in the transit van.
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Defender James Tavernier has joined MK Dons on loan until the end of the season. More on nufc.co.uk #nufc
RODZILLA – Surely if I’ve managed to name five RB’s and one is needed to play at LB that still leaves us with four options to choose from? Not rocket science. Mariappa would only ever get in the team at CB.
I can’t believe QPR now expect Barton and Gibril Cisse to co-exist! I’m going to offer my hoops-supporting mate a tenner that they’ve come to blows by the end of the season.
End of the week, actually.
If Ashley can attempt to rename SJP, perhaps QPR should just rename the team? Something like “Shits R Us” or “Violent Bastards United”?
Jees, I crack myself up.
What happened to the “recruitment machine” when we needed a CB last summer Whumpie? If by the recruitmetn machine you mean Llambias I would start looking for some spare parts. We have made some terrible mistakes as well as some brilliant moves as far as I can see. Who gave Ranger a new long term contract? I think it was our recruitment machine. What team is still paying Xisco and Smith huge wages? I think it is us. Who brought Kuqi in last season? I seem to recall it was us as well. Who gave Shola a contract extension even though he is slow and getting slower? I just don’t buy the idea that our recruitment machine is God’s gift to the Prem. They have made some good moves and some horrible ones much like most teams. A note of realisim is needed at times. The kind of money being spoken about for Mariappa should be no problem at all for us and as Rodzilla has said he is quite versatile. I think the CB controversy is going to be ongoing for some time yet especially with any further injuries.
James Tavernier on loan to MK Dons for rest of the season.
1730: More news coming in now regarding Watford’s Adrian Mariappa, who has reportedly turned down the chance to join Wigan. He would prefer a move a Newcastle, Sky Sources have claimed.
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Alan Smith and Tavernier – are we MK Dons feeder club?
3hrs, just seen that on SSN ticker bar.
…2 right backs then
Mpapa has turned wigan down, coming here???
Sorry to offend, KimToon – but just because the phrase has been hijacked for other purposes doesn’t negate it’s relevance here: people are clearly not learning. We’ve seen three years of consistent, highly successful recruitment that follows a clear strategy and pattern… and yet some are still expecting something completely at odds with it.
They are having difficulty learning; ergo there are learning difficulties.
No offence to anyone else on any other subject intended, but to be honest, I have a rule: if offence isn’t given, don’t take it. There’s enough to go around!
(Is it cos I is black?)
Ashley’s helicopter seen darn sarth in a no fly zone, Just drove past Mpapa sprinting up the A1 past Durham services, looked out of breath.
Dont really want mariappa buy just another williamson really.
Pards said if we dont get him now we will look elsewhere in summer and would prefer extra 2m of someone of higher quality.
Geordietwo: I agree with some of your examples, and of course there are bad decisions as well as good (although even a bad player is worth more on a contract than without one, so I’d exclude Shola and Ranger from that list. Oh, and Smith and Xisco were under the previous strategy more than 3 years ago.
Was Kuci that bad? Ok, we’ll give you that one.
What nobody can argue with is the bottom line. We’re 6th in the prem, while topping the table for profits made on player dealings. It doesn’t get more clear than that.
Gary, we obviously both have different views here so I’ll have to agree to disagree. I think Mariappa would be back-up for 3 positions (CB/CB/RB). Raylor, Santon and Ferguson all compete for LB; whilst Simpson and Perch compete for RB (with the option of emergency RB cover with Santon or Raylor, providing they’re not already playing at RB).
*already playing LB
shit this is getting confusing.
Mariappa wants to join Newcastle, David Craig on SSN now.
Said no to Wigan and “yes please” to us.
…ball in Watford’s court.
Mariappa wants to join – Watford now need to accept.
Whumpie@76- Fair enough. Just a subject close to my heart mate ., family stuff .I know there are worse expressions to use to be fair you never sank that low.
Gotta go, folks. Keep up the good banter! Here’s hoping for good news (i.e. nobody good leaving) at midnight….
David Craig saying Mariappa wants to come to Newcastle – deal may not be dead but Toon won’t improve offer – down to Watford now
Rodz man my head spinnning reading that!
Good banter on here again. Excellent article toonsy. I hope we do bring in a CB today as it is not impossible as some claim to get value for money in January. Many clubs have done it in the past. I wouldn’t be arguing for it if I hadn’t watched our games in December. The consequences of inaction can be quite severe. What does finishing 12th pay out versus finishing 6th? Ashley should be asking himself that question if he hasn’t already.
about 5m I think Geordie two
Recent transfers in Cabaye, Tiote, Cisse, Ba, Marveaux, Abeid, Obertan. OK one or two still to prove themselves but I think the Toon scouting system is doing a cracking job. We may have to wait longer than we would like in some cases but it’s proven to be correct in the last 2 and a half years.
Missed Ben Arfa off that list
KimToon: got some ties with those issues myself. Not an easy one to deal with at the best of times. Never been more impressed than watching those who deal with it all day every day – incredible patience and empathy. The best of people; I just wish I had half of their qualities.
Anyway… the footie…!
Its got be more than 5 mill, especially if it incl euro qualification
good article Toonsy. He isnt the answer so I’m happy to wait.
The forward line we have now will let the opposition worry about defending more than us
Wonder if poor old barnetta getting out of jesmond yet?
Liam hahaha
I thought it was simple until I started unravelling it!
Mark, in case you missed it there’s been a dramatic u-turn.
Rodz
ANOTHER REMINDER CWARR TALKS ABSOLUTE GARBAGE………
Earlier today #nufc pards has got his defender and its not mariappa
Please all do not listen to the idiot
Thank you
Aye Premandup @89 plus a good chance to get into Europe if finishing sixth with whatever money and advertising opportunities that brings with it. Most owner’s would consider it madness not to reinforce at such a critical position if they were sitting 6th in the table at this time of year.
Wow, away for half an hour come back and theres a mini argument going on (emphase on mini lol). I consider Raylor to be a rb, even though hes played lb previously this season(same with perch,despite it seems his better position is CB/CDM). so RBs: Simpson, R.Taylor,Perch,Tavenier. LBs: Santon, Ferguson (still think hes a better winger).
Ok Whumpie I do get what you are saying. We have done very well with very little spending but we always seem to be on the edge of disaster as with December. The policy of having a squad thin in quality after the first 11 brings huge risks and it won’t always pay off.
Andymag dont you start too
Wheres troy?
Liam Southern Toon
, also Rodz@49, didn’t mean to ‘jump at your throat’ just refreshed the page and saw your comment.
Think I bloody started this mess, better clear it up, lol
#nufc best in shock swap deal with clint dempsey plus £3m
Liam it was AndyMag who started it
Andy, while you’ve been away Tavernier has been shipped out to MK Dons, and Mariappa has turned down Wigan and is keen to move to us. All down to Watford……
G2 – I don’t think it’s our policy to run so thin. I just think it’s nature of the best of where we are. We have a lot of dross on the books who are sat on contracts they won’t get anywhere else, like Smith, Xisco and even fringe players like Lovenkrands or Perch. It will take time to get rid of them. They aren’t good enough to be playing so won’t be in the shop window so who will come in for them?
In the summer I expect some of those will move on, like Smith and Lovenkrands, and they will be replaced with actual squad players who are better than they are. It won’t be done overnight. Remember, about 18 months ago we were losing 3-0 away to Derby in the Championship and Rome wasn’t built in a day. Obviously the fact we’re doing it on a budget means it ill take time, but we’ll get there
nee wurries Andy, I’m happy to put that one to bed anyway, I was tying mesel up in knots
Spot on Toonsy – it’s going to take time and no-one can doubt the club have done a decent job getting some very good players in without being rolled over. still some dead wood to shift but we will get there
I think our best move of jan was smith to MK Dons
In all seriousness wonder how much mk dons are paying for his wages?
@Liam Southern Toon
hes at Fenwicks with BigDave, keith and the rest of the reality train crew
Now now mark dont tempt fate
Mark this ‘reality train’ lark is getting confusing too. I used to board it, but I’m not sure if it’s morphed into a ‘negativity train’ these days.
…two totally different modes of transport.
Mark why are we at Fenwicks ??? I can’t remember mentioning fenwicks
I think you are right for the most part toonsy. I just get frustrated as we seem to be on the verge of a breakout year and would like to see us make the push to finish 6th really take shape with a defender in. We may yet get Mariappa and that may be enough. I think that Willo really needs to become part of our defensive cover so we definitely need a top quality defender in as well in the summer. Also it does seem very likely that Peter and definitely Smith will be gone this summer. We should try to sort the Kadar situation out as well. If he has no future with us he should be gone so we can focus on some good young CB’s. I’m not convinced about Obertan either. Move Ferguson to the wing Pardew! You could see his quality as a potential winger shine out again against Brighton. So much promise in the team now but a lot remains to be done.
@Big Dave
woooo hooo hoooo
thats where ppl normally go when theyve said something thats turned out to be poop.. i.e jabba the c@nt will sell sell sell
boing boing boing
so will you lighten your mood with Jabba the **** if we don’t sell anyone this window
Woo hoo hoo hoo.
Not at all Rodz. It’s not a negativity train.
I am satisfied with Cisse and no outgoings.
Very disappointed with not getting a centre back but the Marricrappa deal still has time to sort itself out.
No negativity from the driver of the reality train.
@Liam Southern Toon
GEORDIETWO, remember mate, Rome wasn’t built in a day and we were in the championship just just over one and a half seasons ago.
Everything will come together over time but fast fixing isn’t the way to sustain future progress as all it does is papers over cracks and we’ve done all that and failed.
@big Dave
I’m still waiting for the dream bus to drop the £25m bombshell.
Woooo hoo hoo hoo
Evening Chronicle : Mariappa turned down the move to Wigan
@Rod it is a little negative, straight of the pessimists platform
@the bouncing butterfly
Where’s your source Woolfie ?
He hasn’t ran off with the £25m and left you in the lurch has he?
Ok Wolfie as well! I know you’re the eternal optomist so all together let’s sing “Let’s all look on the bright side of life (don’t forget to whistle at this point).
I’ll only be satisfied if we finish in the top 8 this season after the start we’ve had. Sorry but there has been too much waiting for us over the years. 
Mark what was it I said that turned out wrong
I think your getting confussed 
Troy yeah still waiting for the 3 players and the other £15 – 17 to be spent, but you know yersel we’ll just get the shite trotted out that the proper players wern’t available this window , BUT they will be available in the summer
so thats ok we can afford to gamble our top 10 position without getting the CB we and Jabba knew we needed, but in their defence they didn’t have time to get him over the line
@Troyore,
£15mill… we signed Cisse for 10,
still the biggest spenders
wooo hooo hoooo
Jabba the c@nt has bought bought bought..
@Big Dave
that Jabba is a c@nt and will sell this window
so…. for the 5th time…. will you now support mike if we dont sell this window
choooo chooooo
Mark/Troy, I used to always surf the reality train, complete with my black and white striped cape, back in the day when everyone thought we’d spend 4bn every window, but to my perception there’ve been a lot of ‘reality train’ passengers saying such and such is going, thingamybob is definitely off, the club have no ambition, we’ll not sign anyone etc etc – to me that’s all a bit old hat nowadays, and either the reality train needs to vet its passengers more thoroughly or change its name to the negativity train, or suchlike equivalent vessel.
I’ll never board the ‘Dream Bus’, as Stardust’s legendary ‘Big Red Bus’ has now morphed into I.E. 25m window spends, but I think ‘reality’ is often overshadowed by paranoid and unjust negativity these days.
That said, I think we now need 3 modes of transport:
a) The Dream Bus, with its rose tinted passengers expecting us to sign Messi, and driven by Wolfie (honk honk)
b) The Reality Train, with its patient yet suspicious passengers looking for slow progress – I’d volunteer to drive (toot toooot)
c) The Nega Sub, with its doom-mongering everyone is leaving and we’ll never compete with Spurs passengers – driver needed, apply within (bubble pop paaarp)
(cos that’s what noise it would make)
I’m on b)
Oi oi radgies!!
What’s gannin on?
Just got back from being chased by the bizzies!
Pure liberty takers!
Anyway, Big Mick is still here like! He’s on poker.com and he’s lost £25m!
Pure mental Big Mick like!
Dekka’s proper tripping like noo! He’s still sending spoof texts to the Watford chairman taking the piss with mental bids for that Marispiper or whatever he’s called!
He’s deing proper top drawer rave moves man, spinning plates and stacking shelves whilst winding the Watford chairman up!
A kna loads of ye’s Divvent like him like and caall him Owl Heed but a reckon he’s proper cush. He loves that name Owl Heed. He’s learnt to turn his heed noo 360 degrees. Funny as oot but he can only dee it when he’s coked off his napper!
Funny as!
Anyway, lads, Dekka and Big Mick have telt is to tell yi’s that they are ganna send another text to sky sports aboot buying MaryCrappa just so they can rip it oot of David Craig!
Ha! Proper daft heed him like!
Right ya daft dafties, Rotary’s ganna roll a joint but al catch yi’s later.
Keep an eye oot for David Daft heed Craig booncing aboot when Big Mick sends him the text.
Laters Gaters!
Toon Toon!
Mark I never said that Jabba WOULD sell, but that it wouldn’t surprise me if he did, and if we kept hold of our top players I would be well pleased.
But I will always support the Toon but will probably never support Jabba or Lambastad because they have caused us so much hurt.
But maybe you think its ok to gamble our position by not getting in the CB we needed ? but I think it’s a big mistake and if it backfires well you will probably be able to make another excuse for hm.
So no I wont be supporting Jabba I am not for sale
I’m with 3 hours wasted
Rod @ 128 im on the reality train at platform B
but can I add that while i’ll except slow progress if the team is in dire need for a player in a certain position I would expect the club to fill that position, because you shouldn’t gamble in the prem 
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Newcastle waiting on Mariappa. Player wants move, but Watford standing firm and Magpies won’t up bid.
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Well #Watfordfc / #NUFC Mariappa is definitely out on the pitch at Milwall so certainly isn’t rushing up to Newcastle!
@Big Dave
good lad, ta. see wasnt tht hard was it
@Big Dave
There’s no doubt about it that by not selling any of our big players is a big surprise and a step forward.
Well done to the rest of the premiership for not making any bids for them. !
Dave, I can understand why you’re bitter, but surely you can see we’re moving forward now. I admit, Fatty and Owl-heed have taken us through a lot of shit in the process to get where we are, but at the end of the day they’re both hard-nosed businessmen with the value of their ‘product’ at heart. They’re both conditioned to not be affected by emotion I.E. the fans displeasure, and will never let their heart overrule their heads.
Don’t get me wrong, I still think they’re both twats, but we should be careful what we wish for. Look at Everton. In fact look at most clubs outside the top 3.
Better the devil you know and all that….
Dave@133, that’s cool then.
I just read your post after typing the above one.
fksake, another post, was just getting into this one
@Rod @Dave, I can understand why you’re bitter
wooo hoo hooo, so it wasnt just me then..
chooo choooo
@Rod @137
good post m8, thats where i stand on the matter. I once was bitter, around Carroll leaving but Wolfies dreams convinced me the future was good. so I salute him for his positive vibes.
I’m easily lead m8, hence the butterfly
but even I can see with the team we’re building that its for the best, hopefully everyone else can see it too 
Mariappa starting for Watford tonight – that’s that then
Cheers Mark, yeah same here.
I was fucking fuming when Carroll, Nolan, Enrique and Barton left; but since then we’ve been fucking amazing in the transfer market.
Sure, we still ain’t got CB cover but we’re far better off now than we were this time last year, and unless we sell a big player before the end of the season I’m teetering towards respect for the board.
I’ve been sat on the fence for the last year, but I can feel gravity pulling me from the quagmire of shite towards the garden of confidence.
Mark do you not think that selling off ( giving away ) the SJP name was just as bad if not worse than the Carroll fiasco
Because to me it was
Dave, I know I’m not Mark, but the Carroll fiasco, for me, has been outweighed by the signings we’ve made since. I’m still pissed off at the name change, and all the overpowering Sports Direct shit in SJP, but that’s taking a bit of a back seat for me at the moment.
At the end of the day, if we can re-reach the lofty heights of the KK/SBR era I’m not that arsed by the commercialisation of the ground. I think that’s just the way football is going mate.
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