Would you start them?
After speaking to many fans since it became clear that both Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse would be back in England on the 31st of January at the latest, there were a lot of different opinions as to what their involvement should be at Ewood Park.
Some are of the opinion that neither should be involved at all, whilst others are of the thinking that Demba Ba should be involved and Cisse should not be, with him being new to both the club and also to the Premier League as well. There are also quite a few with the thoughts that both should be on the bench and used if the circumstances are such that we need their presence on the field at a certain time of the game.
My own thoughts are completely different to all the above, for me, if both report back in time to travel to Blackburn with the rest of the squad and both declared fit, then I would start with both of them; and I will now explain why.
- Since Demba Ba departed for Africa we have not really ever looked a threat going forward, in the QPR game we got the three points with our only effort on target in the game, against Fulham we went in at half-time only one goal up despite near total domination, and on Saturday at Brighton the few chances that were created ended in weak efforts at goal.
- The quicker Papiss Cisse plays in the Premier League the quicker he will adapt to the game in England.
- The more that both Ba and Cisse play together the better their understanding will become.
- Both players should be sharp after playing and training in the tournament environment for the last couple of weeks.
Now I stress these are my own thoughts and many won’t agree with them, but I think they make a valid point as to why I would throw them both in at the deep end at Blackburn, and I would like to know how many other fans would be tempted to do the same?
Obviously it is affected somewhat by Alan Pardew’s admission that they won’t be back until Thursday so they will therefore miss out tonight, but in lieu of the way the league is at the moment and knowing that a win at Blackburn this evening would take us up to 5th in the Premier League table, I’d have personally pulled out all the stops to get them both back on Tyneside as soon as Senegal’s participation at the ACoN was over and ready to start tonight.
So what would you do if the decision was yours?
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They’re not back today, mate. I’d start both if they were available, though!
Back and playing ASAP, the stronger your starting 11 the greater chance of winning the matches you play. I could understand Cisse not being involved but I would have wanted Ba to be on the first flight back from Africa and drafted straight into the squad…no excuse for him not to be really.
Personally I can’t see any of them starting or at the very worst Ba coming on as a sub if we require him but to be honest I think it will be a case of, relax and regain your bearings.
It’s possible that both could start against Villa and it all depends on Pardew’s stance on bedding in Cisse or deciding that he has to hit the ground running.
Either way it will be interesting to see how all this pans out and how he deals with Shola and Best through it all.
Start with your strongest 11. However the rest of the team need to develop an understanding with Cisse, so could see him coming off the bench until he’s fully integrated.
@2. I have nothing to add to that…well said
it wood be nice if we good get the 3 pts 2 night it wood set us up four the villa game the we have spurs which we wood lose 6pts out off 9 not bad
Hasn’t Pardew said they won’t be playing. Not back til Thurs?
I’d start both… but whilst i’m wishing for the impossible i’d also like messi to start as well
The only way I can see them starting is if pardew is playing mind games and they’re already back and in their footy kit
Cabaye fail appeal?
Pardew’s recent tactics have me totally bemused. Best wide left? Benny on the touchline all game? Jonas totally lost in central midfield? Bringing Gosling on instead of Vuckic or Abeid who are much much better? Puzzling. Wonder what magic tactics he’ll try tonight.
Neither will play tonight.
Georgio
I thought the 3 players you mentioned were actually quite fluid and would swap positions all game. It looked good until the final 3rd where we couldn’t put the ball away.l
Leave them both at home .We need the three points more than you guys
Little point in discussing the options as they are not back yet. It’s reasonable to believe that all the stops were pulled out to get them back. Ashley and Pardew are NOT stupid, they can see the team’s shortcomings and would have looked at every avenue that might have them available but it wasn’t to be. Still – it is better than not having them till the end of February.
Nufc.com confirming that Colo will play tonight, thanks fook for that.
S Robinson- you might very wll get your wish. I think most of us on here would be thrilled with a draw w/out Cabaye, Tiote and Ba
Hypothetically speaking (you see I get it
) I’d have done exactly the same and got the back here ASAP. After the game on Sunday I’d have been saying to Senegal that we’re paying their wages now and we need them, you don’t, so get them back.
Pardew says they are back Thursday. Why? I could Fly to Australia and back twice in that time
Whats the betting had it been a non-televised cup game the FA wouldn’t have even noticed. I’m sorry like but can’t have one rule for us and another for the rest of the football league.
Difficult game tonight as Blackburn seem to score goals for fun, are we gonna be lumbered with Ameobi and Best again
Certainly from the one camera angle of the Blackburn game they wouldn’t have been able to do anything!
Toonsy – Spot on, no excuse what so ever. Even given them an extra day and flying back at some point on Tuesday morning would have seen Ba in contention for this evening. Not happy about it at all.
Nah disagree there. It’s a bit harsh to expect them to be back and playing at Blackburn tonight regardless of the mode of transport. Sat at SJP is a more realistic target as far as I’m concerned.
TGS – Blackburn have scored 16 goals at home this season. That’s the same number that we’ve managed away.
Exactly Toonsy! They could get back from the moon quicker than that.
DJG – How is it that harsh? I really don’t get that. I flew to Africa, climbed Kilimanjaro and flew back again all in the same day and was ready for 5-a-side the same night.
“Obviously it is affected somewhat by Alan Pardew’s admission that they won’t be back until Thursday …” Yeah, that could somewhat affect them playing tonight, Toonsy.
I understood the reason was that they did not have all the necessary clearances/releases from international duty.
Anyhow, I agree totally with you Toonsy. Hoy them in. I don’t understand all this caution malarky. We had the same debate when Santon joined.
Nobby they might have been fluid but it’s the bloody final third that counts for attackers!
Haven’t been over to the toon for a match since last season. Only seen them once this season….. Chuffed I’ll be there for Villa to see Ba’s return and Cissé’s debut
Aye coz it’s a game of 5-a-side in the park.
Some classics from Pards: “We can hold fire for now for the centre-half…” He says that because we have Perchie. His ringing endorsement of Perchie is “…when he has come on he has done okay…” “He has boosted me a little bit”
Not played well, just “done okay”. Not boosted him, just boosted him “a little bit”.
TC@23, yeah but Yakuba got 12 of them and he ain’t playing
….well maybe not all of their home goals, I ain’t checked.
…he got 9 at home.
DJG – That was sarcastic, my point is that it’s nowt flying back from Africa having a days rest then playing a match mid week. They won’t have played since Sunday any way!
If we had played a Toon match on Sunday then were scheduled for a mid-week Wednesday would you have expected Pards to rest them? Of course not, you just get on with the job at hand!
C’mon lads! A bit of positivity! We are playing a side that is in the relegation end of the table! We are missing some key players but can you imagine if the dressing room thinks like some of the people on the blog?? Might as well not start!
We are a good team and that reflects itself in us sitting in the top half of the table!
We should show ambition is a call that keeps getting thrown about, so why not show some ambition as a fan and start taking a more positive attitude?
Just saying…
BB i was actually happy we didn’t sign Maps last night. Sure had we signed him i would’ve been glad for a while, maybe the rest of the season. But long term we don’t know how he’d adjust to the premiership and it’s late in his career to play suistained top flight football for the first time (had half a season in PL at watford). I’m glad that they didn’t overpay given that they weren’t too confident either. Better to get a higher priority target in the summer.
For me it said everything when Pards stated that if we didn’t get him in January, we wouldn’t be back in. They clearly had their reservations.
Funny to me how they got Cisse up here and back in time for Brekkies in Africa, but can’t get two of them back in that kind of time. Maybe it’s only two-seater planes that can be arranged that quickly? I think it might be the Demba’s fault meself like – I can see them thinking they’ve just crashed straight out of the ACoN, were hoping to enjoy a bit more time in the warm weather, prospect of being jetted back and straight into a freezing wednesday night bruiser in the forgotten depths of Lancashire. Hmmm… let me think about that now….
Pardew said yesterday they arrive back in the UK today and won’t be involved tonight.
Something’s not right about the whole thing. There again Africa’s a bit like that in everything.
Remember last August how Tiote in Africa couldn’t get a visa to return to his home in Toon. He wasn’t even in Cote D’Ivoire!
I don’t think tonight will be as tough as some fans think anyway, despite our poor form at their gaff. I’d like to see Barfa play in the middle tonight, sumik like:
Krul
Simpson Colo Williamson Santon
Raylor Guthrie Barfa Spidey
Vuckic Best
Although I think Pardew will play Gosling in with Guthrie, and fkin Shola upfront with Best, bringing Barfa on for 20mins. I’d much rather he brought Shola on for 20mins, he’s at his most effective when everyone else has been playing for an hour.
…at least Colo looks to be back, and reclaiming the captain’s armband. That’s a big plus for me.
Lee Probert has reviewed the lunge by Benoit Assou-Ekotto on the Wigan player and decided it doesnt warrant retrospective action despite the player having to leave the field with a gash to his leg, does anyone know what the standard for ” Violent Conduct” actually is as not only is there inconsistency between refereeing styles but also by the referee himself from game to game.
The FA back the referees even if they appear to get it wrong, they said Foy was correct to the letter of the law in sending Kompany off as any challenge which has the potential to cause injury is violent conduct, so why not Ekotto?
I can go back to De Jong on Ben Arfa and Rooney on McCarthy last season, both horrendous examples of straight forward violent conduct yet the FA hid behind the Mantra, the referee saw it so no action could be taken and yet this season a Wolves player was wrongly red carded at Arsenal but the card stood but Van Persie wellied a Villa player in the chops with his elbow and nothing is done.
Yeah come on they will be flying back first class with seats that recline into beds. As long as they dont have too much champagne they should be right. Ba has been on or coming off the bench so he should be too tired
They simply both MUST start on Sunday against Villa. It will give the crowd a real buzz and more importantly they’re better than the strikers currently occupying the roles.
aye stu spot on
As per usual, batty.
Even half cut cisse and ba are better than ameobi im afraid
Would love to line up tonight as follows;
Krul,
Simmo, Colo, Willo, Santon
Obertan, Guthrie, Gosling / Abeid, Jonas
HBA, Best
Charlietoon
you do realise they’re muslims, so nay need to worry boot the champagen.
If the last game was sunday they should of been back by monday night ,tuesday morning imo .Don’t understand what the hold up is in them getting back sooner.
Liam Southern Toon
Would prefer Abeid along Guthrie, Abeid will be a better holding midfield, Gosling and Guthrie wouldn’t work they’re pretty much the same players so won’t stay back enough protecting the defence as Tiote would have, thats why the cabaye guthrie partnership doesn’t seem right.
kimtoon
think senegalese FA are pretty pissed, so are holding them back for a talk or something
@49 may need to worry about syrip overdose though.
Funny if it was maple syrip that made cisse awesome. 
Just realised how stupid responding to my own post looked
I agree with people calling for Abeid and Vuckic. Both have looked dependable when called upon, and Abeid has experience in the DM role – something that neither Guthrie nor Gosling has!
I’ve done a zigic/yakubu and got four in a row. Can I make it five, c’mon guys I’m already feeling sad
I think that a draw would be perfectly acceptable tonight and realistic for where we are in terms of 6 key players out;
Saylor, Cabaye, Tiote, Marveux, Ba, Cisse
oo, blip it was never to be
Demba just tweeted Simmo , congrats on 100 appearances tonite,better win. Can`t wait for Villa Sunday. There you have it
I would of demanded them back soon as they lost the 2nd game not wait while they play a meaningless match,and then wait again cause they want them sat on a plane with the rest of there team just to go back home.Who pays there wages not the bloomin national team
@60-Here here,you tell em .
Conspiracy theories abound yet again.
There must be a good reason for these guys not being back. Its not Ashley’s fault and almost certainly beyond Ba & Cisse’s control as I’ve no doubt they are both keen to get back here. Don’t think that they want to come back to a team off the pace if they could be here to help at all earlier.
On Cabaye – Stubbs has a lot to answer for, as had he not pursued the point as if he had a personal stake in it, then nothing would have been said or done. He just went on and on despite little interest from Barnes and Harps. The same applies if the game hadn’t been televised – no one would have said a dickie bird.
Troy Stavers
January 24, 2012 at 17:36
Its going to come to life when Chelsea spend £25m on Tiote and Spurs £15m on Krul.
Who knows which club will buy Colo but I believe someone will.
Wor lass has just phoned up kicking off that i’ve took nowt out for tea.
I’m sure when i signed up to this relationship it was understood that that was her job.
@ 62 i aint blaming ma im blaning the sengal fa idiots
Tony toon@62- Very true. He (Stubbs) needs to remember he’s just a presenter and not an analyst, that was Barnes and Harpers jobs that day, and as players themselves saw no intent to harm in the challenge .
Kill Wilkins and the sequel -Kill Stubbs
Just, finally, watched the Brighton ‘highlights’. Gotta say, we didn’t look that bad. Shocking defending from Simpson & Williamson for the goal, though.
@Dan4toon
Aye. I was quite surprised that no one put a bid in.
Even more surprised when we didn’t get a CB having listened to Pardew saying it was a priority.
Troy what aboot cisse ,dont tell me hes not a centre back
Pards has explained his reason why we didnt get a defender in..
closed case
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7471989/
i thought cisse would be playing along side colo
nobby @64 – ahem when you signed, did you read ALL of the contract? No? Me neither.
DJG – It’d be harsh for us to expect them back and in contention for tonight if the earned say £15k-£50k per year. The fact that they’re both earning well in excess of £1.5m per year would suggest that it’s a pretty fair request.
Batty @ 72 why ? is he not ?
Anyone got something inspiring for me to write about? NUFC related, of course.
@the bouncing butterfly
B&B answered this before;
Some classics from Pards: “We can hold fire for now for the centre-half…” He says that because we have Perchie. His ringing endorsement of Perchie is “…when he has come on he has done okay…” “He has boosted me a little bit”
Not played well, just “done okay”. Not boosted him, just boosted him “a little bit”.
@Batty
No, Cisse is not a CB and neither is Perch.
Not many Tiggers jumping about now like they were when Cisse was bought out of Ashley’s own back pocket.
Oh no, he wasn’t was he. It was the CB money. Hence no CB.
The regime. Predictable as Pardews Rhetoric.
I honestly find Pardews comments about Perch worrying.
I often stick up for Pardew but that was an absolute joke of a cover up story for Jabba and his lack of ambition.
Troy where was the Pards comments from mate,
I see you have been getting stick all day from the positive crew
@Gary
How’s about Pardews comments that Perch is good enough.
See how many agree or disagree?
Also, I wonder how Perch feels now that they made it clear that they Wanted Marricrappa but because they didn’t get him they expect him to feel confident.
Troy its allright I found it
Troy should be the most positive guy on here today since the whole team wasn’t sold like he predicted
Anyone see a win tonight? I have searched high and low and just cannit see it
TROY STAVERS – You seem to forget that the money Mike Ashley paid for NUFC entitled him to own EVERYTHING within NUFC. Including the money from sales and so on. If he wasn’t ambitious he’d not of spent anything at all from the Carroll money and there’d be nothing anyone could do about it. Maybe we should just be greatful that he bought us Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, Santon etc etc… Which by the way was all from his back pocket.
I see us winning tonight.
Gary,
Shame the things money can’t buy…like our reputation, heritage and legends…he managed to piss all over and laugh about
@MDS
I’m a realist not a fuzzy wuzzy dreamer.
Without Ba, Cisse, Tiote, Cabaye and Saylor. ?
I hope I’m proved wrong like I was with Tiote going.
I underestimated that my source was a sauce.
…and by the way….it wasn’t from his back pocket
What gives you that outlandish notion?
TROY STAVERS – I was actually thinking about a Perch related article. Not too sure we’d get much of a debate, though.
MORENO, Ashley has dragged this club screaming into the 21st century that’s all, where sponsors and Advertising are a major part of surviving.
Wolfie,
Interesting to see Liverpools sponsership deal compared to ours
Oh wait, I forgot that the mighty sports direct are pumping millions into the club 
Moreno @ 86 spot on mate
but sadly some people don’t value them things.
Gary would the Nolan and Jose money not have paid for most of them ?
Perch has came in and done a job and done it effectively for most part and gets unfair stick as far as I’m concerned.
We know he’s no world class player but he’s willing and able to do a job without fuss.
Wolfie @ 93
First time I have agreed with you on anything
Gary;
You could write an article on whether it was good business to buy Cisse to try and keep Shola out of the team , or should we have bought a CB instead to keep Perch out.
MORENO – I agree about our heritage. I’ll never forgive him for the re-branding and I’m happy to admit that.
The fact remains, though, that once Andy Carroll was sold the money was paid to NUFC. Now invade you hadn’t noticed, Mike Ashley owns NUFC, therefore that money is his.
Ok Gary….and you want us to be happy and thankful about that because…?
@wolfie “screaming into the 21st century” i want to believe you wolfie i really do but everything you told me last month wasent true so im finding it really hard !!!!
and most of what i said happened well said troy they are indeed predictable both the regime and the tiggers
MORENO, just be happy and thankful you have a football team to support that’s doing very well in the league with some quality players and owing nothing to anyone outside the club.
BIG DAVE – If you are intending to imply that I do not care about the heritage of our club with your previous comment then I am deeply offended.
Keith, what did I predict that didn’t come true?
Do you mean the 25 million spend or the 4 players brought in?
Just positive guesses mate that didn’t happen.
If I could seriously predict exactly how much Ashley will spend e.t.c, then also I would be able to predict the future.
Regardless of all that, I see only good things happening at this club and that’s not a prediction, that’s there for all to see.
And for that I am glad mate. We all want the toon to do well.
I can’t forgive past mistakes unless that person holds their hands up, admits it and learns from it. it’s just the way I am programmed and until I see this regime learning from their mistakes and doing what is right for my football club rather than themselves I will never support them. Only the team.
MORENO, can’t you see that happening now?
It sounded absolutely shite when the presenter on SSN went to David Craig at the Sports Direct Arena.
They had the name plastered on the bottom of the screen.
And for what benefit? Sweet bot all.
It’s progress tho
gary@76 ,on a serious note …. iv been on this blog for a few months now and iv read lots of articles on how good the board are and how we are moving forward and lots of bloggers and fans dont agree so i think it would be a good idea to write an article on the club from the other side looking at the facts and stats and the potential harm MA is doing to the club and the team what do you think !
Wolfie,
The only reason we didn’t sell in this window is because no bids came in. Hence no 3rd choice defender funded by a first choice player.
Dekka and Mike hold us, as a set of fans, in complete disdain and have a long time. I guarantee that if new owners came in who gave a shite about the club, the first things they would do is restore the singing section and name at St. james.
This man is a billionairre for crying out loud, he didn’t do this for financial gain, he did it because he is a total cock
MORENO, all Ashley wants is for you to support the team, in-fact that’s all we are all there for.
Before blogs came along mate, no one even gave a rats arse what was happening behind the scenes, we were just interested in seeing a players name mentioned in a newspaper or whatever about who was getting transferred and that was that.
I’d never even heard the words , I don’t trust the owners or whatever and no one gave a shit about Cameron hall developments plastered all over St James’.
Strange isn’t it how things change.
Keith….that’s usually my area, lol. Have to pen an article soon like, it’s been far too long
I think people should be grateful to a certain extent, yes. We must remember that little over two season ago MA was looking to sell NUFC for a figure rumoured to be around the £100m mark. That figure could now quite easily be made from player sales alone and NUFC would no longer be a Premier League team. However, rather than going down that route MA has decided that he will continue to sanction the signings of players that are now helping us challenge for a European place. For that, we should be greatful.
For anything unrelated to finances, I’d say you are well within your right to hate the bloke.
KEITH@105, What potential harm is Ashley doing?
All I see it potential good and nothing at all to show me anything other.
Ashley wants me to support the team? Course he does as I spend money doing so
Gary, he is probably just fattening us up to sell us to a leveraged buyout then we are right back at square one anyway. So I will refrain from kissing his arse before I know his intentions and ambition for the club (which if he had any I am sure we would have heard?)
Gary @ 100 no mate that wasn’t aimed at you. but was a general remark that I have noticed there is a few on here that basically don’t give a shit about the re-nameing and other shit that has went on at the club.
wooooooooo wooooooooooo ALL ABORAD
Correct MORENO and he spends his making sure you have one to support.
team Krul; Simmo, Williamson, Colo, Santon; Ben-Arfa, Guthrie, Gosling, Gutierrez; Best, Lovenkrands
Wolfie, that’s utter nonsense and you know it.
You make it sound like he is a hero to the Geordie people. Get real man!
Gary @ 109 to you seriously believe that the club was for sale for just £100 mill and there was no other debt they had to take on
soz no loven shola in
dave spot on.
he wanted to walk away with a 100mill
I have been coming on here since it’s inception and have heard some massive dollops of shite from Stardust but what you just said there Wolfie has to trump it all
@wolfie , but you challenged me and said the person who got it right was the person who knew which direction the club was headed those were your exact words ! you dident lie to me did you wolfie just like MA does !!
ow wolfie i can see good and bad negative and positive and thats what makes me and many others sensible grounded fans , but just to see good and be blinkered to reality is silly and i think most people see that now
BIGDAVE, I’m one person that doesn’t care about re naming and advertising e.t.c because to me , it will always be St James’ park and it will be to all others.
If you were on who wants to be a millionaire and you were on the million pound question and the question was .
Which football ground does Newcastle united football club play at…
A…St James’ park…………………… B… The JJB stadium
C…The sports direct arena………. d…… Leazes park..
How would you answer that question?
I don’t give a toss if we spend the 35 million or use it to pay off the debt, I see improved team and a strategy to actually grow the team by getting players in with potential – surely that’s better than where we’ve been since SBR – you have to be blind or stupid not to see that
The stadium renaming has been disastrous all round, press hate it, fans hate it and no potential suitors are going to buy the rights – why can’t the fat fvck just hold his hands up and say mistake made and revert it back to SJP – it’s not like anyone calls it the SDA
What do people think about the mass clearout of fringe players being disclosed as on NUFC.com. The list is long and includes people like Phil Airey. I’m surprised if this is true. Why let players know at this point that they are no longer wanted? The plan is to go after young promising players from all over but that won’t happen in a day so why cause so much bad press now?
@123
Depends if it was on challenge TV or not as those episodes are way old. Presuming it is (as who wants to be a millionairre hasn’t had a series in a while) the answer is A) St. James Park
I agree with Moreno @ 121, I sometimes think that Jabba the c@nt has a cult started and his spiritual leader has infitrated this blog
MORENO – If he is ‘fattening us up to sell us’, wouldn’t you be happy? If we ended up with a new owner that could afford to buy a club challenging for Europe with a 52,000 capacity stadium then surely that’d be a win win situation?
He could however go down the opposite route and say, ‘you know what?, I’ve had enough. Cabaye, Ba, Tiote, Krul, Santon, Cisse, Colo and HBA are now transfer listed and once they’re gone I will carry on til the end of the season, collect my prize money and sell the club for a pittance.’
KEITH, I don;t care who thinks I’m blinkered , I will take a positive out of any negative mate and it’s as simple as that.
Slagging the club off doesn’t make you grounded.
Slagging the owners off doesn’t make you grounded.
Waiting for something to go wrong doesn’t make you grounded.
Gary,
I doubt he is as narcissistic as you mention when you play Devil’s Advocate there. Come back with a reasonable scenario next time!
When I say sell us in a leveraged buyout….I mean plunge us back into the debt so many fans are praising Ashley for clearing (which is a likely scenario)
GARY@128, Believe me mate, some fans would love to see Ashley pack up and sell all our players and run for it, leaving us right in the shite because they could then come on forums and what not and shout” see now do you believe us, we knew this would happen”
Crazy as hell man and yet these people say they are realists.
wolfie ashley is paying fk all for the name change.
he knew no one in there reet mind would come in for it.
just free advertising for his shite shops..
Shola IS starting – Fudge.
Let’s hope he has his 1 in 20 good game – he’s effing due one!
Shola, I love you to bits but please put some effort in tonight.
Keith @ 122 your wasting your time lad the goal posts are continually moved, or you misread, or got it wrong etc etc
Wolfie somethings shouldn’t be for sale. and that is one of the lies that the regime told when asked after the SD@SJP fiasco a couple of years ago if the name SJP would remain as the name Lambastad said ‘absolutely while we’re here absolutely’
so what happened
MORENO, if you can’t see the good Ashley is doing, then you have your eyes closed or you refuse to accept it because you spent so long slagging him and now are too stubborn to ever back down.
If that’s the case then fair enough as you won;t be the only one.
BIG DAVE – MA could easily sell those players, make a cool £120m for himself and then offer the club to anyone willing to take on any remaining debt. We’d be a team with very poor players and he’d walk away without a care in the world.
HITMAN @132, how do you know this? Tell me how you know this.
Wolfie @ 131 you have a real bad habit of thinking you know how people think, or you try telling us how we think or what we mean
My view of this regime, having studied them closely since they took over is this in a nutshell:
They will continue to buy cheap and sell high until they clear the debt. They will whore out the name of the club and the stadium until they clear debt. They will give false promises and guarantees to the fans until they clear the debt. They will then sell the club. They do not care one jot about this club and it’s people, other than the financial side.
Simple as that. The fact we are doing so well in the league is a bonus which I really don’t think they were expecting and I really don’t think they care too much as long as we are safe.
didnt VM come out and say they were only interested in shirt sponsor.
BIGDAVE, so what, they say things and change their minds.
I’m willing to bet that if Sir John Hall named the stadium after himself bearing in mind he overseen the re vamp, I bet there would have hardly been a murmur.
Tell me I’m wrong?
BIGDAVE@138, I could say the same about you.
wolfie ya prick.
do you no other wise,tell me how you no this isnt true
MORENO @139, you actually believe that hogwash don’t you.
nar sir john had more passion for the club and just named a stand after him self.not like ashley fkin raped sjp with his tacky signs plasterd all owa the place
HITMAN , I’ll let you off with the prick bit.
You seem to know he’s paying nothing so you tell me how you know this.
I don;t know one way or the other but I’m interested to find out how you got your inside the boardroom info.
Gary @ 136 he wouldn’t get his free advertising for SD then. Which after all was the main reason to bought the club
Wolfie,
I tend to look at the past when deciding what I think will happen in the future as past events tell you a lot.
You continue to stare into the dark though mate so you can keep up this “I’m always positive YAAAAY! Clap clap clap” bollocks you spout on about 24/7
Tacky signs lol
Any other signs would have been fine even if they were bright pink as long as it didn’t have sports direct on it.
OH…. MY…. GOD!!!!!!
Someone over on ‘newcastleunitedblog.co.uk’ has just said ‘i hope shola doesn’t score’
Are you kidding me? hoping someone doesn’t score just because you don’t like them? The intelligence of the human race has just hit an all time low.
MORENO @148, past events tell you nothing mate, nothing.
Nobby, that just sums up why I don’t go on twitter anymore
It’s full of that
So called fans not wanting their own player to score, it gets bastard ridiculous with some fans.
So wolfie.
If a bloke walks past your house every single day, takes his pants down and curls out a massive shit on your step, what do you think next time you see him walking towards the house undoing his belt?
Because you’re always positive and optimistic you would presume he is going to walk right by?
Nope, he’s got form. Form is the reason that bookies can place odds on pretty much anything and win, become huge businesses…where does form come from? The past.
Wolfie @ 142 I wouldn’t be surprised if you did’ it wouldn’t be the 1st time you said something about me that was wrong
Nobby – Link
And the rest, give it a fucking rest man. There is a game less than 30 minutes away!
MORENO, your analogy is a million miles away to what you are using to rip Ashley a new arsehole and you know it.
Try a better scenario.
BIGDAVE….ditto.
To be honest every single owner of every single club is in it for the money, Ashley’s stance is nothing new.
Someone said we bought Cisse for 9mill so we could sell him for 19mill – That’s one hell of a gamble on a player who is unproven in th premier league!
A lot of people have the opinion that we only buy players to sell them on for more money… who has that happened with??? Carroll? Only him… that’s one example – The rest of the players weren’t happy with the terms that were put in front of them and that’s why they left.
That one example of Carroll – That’s the best bit of business i’ve seen ever in my life and if it happened again I hope they would of came to the same conclusion. In my opinion
Surely the game on thread is fine for discussing the game too though?
Wolfie,
My analogy was in response to ‘the past means nothing’ and me trying to point out that my theory that he doesn’t care has been proven time and time again. If someone has form in something then it is likely to happen, you not agree with that?
MORENO –
‘They will continue to buy cheap and sell high until they clear the debt. They will whore out the name of the club and the stadium until they clear debt. They will give false promises and guarantees to the fans until they clear the debt. They will then sell the club.’
Wouldn’t you think if he was making enough money via doing those things to clear out what was once a huge debt then he’d be a pretty poor businessman to simply sell up?
Moreno – It is. I’m just fed up of the constant childish bickering.
Peace and love.
@Moreno 139
Ive got to admit, this is my general feeling about Mike and the toon. Although to sell he will makes us more attractive, which he has, he’ll do it on the cheap, which he has.. so if he sells up, whats the problem
MORENO, what form does Ashley have in ruining this club?
You are going on the major mistakes over Keegan which spiralled into relegation.
His form after that has been fantastic and gets better each window, so how can you go on the past as a yardstick for the future.
I thought he was a pretty poor businessman to buy the club without looking into the finances properly first.
He has been a good businessman in a lot of respects, don’t get me wrong and you make a valid point Gary which is fair enough. I just think that the amount of times he has already tried to sell us with no potential buyers shows he was happy to take a lump sum off an investment he must have regretted at the time
@toonsy, I thought it was a canny debate
i enjoyed reading the comments, nobody knows the real truth what mike will do with us so everyones guess could be true, or close
Toonsy,
It’s just banter man
There is always bickering when neither party is willing to see the others point of view 
MORENO he was happy to sell at the time because he was absolutely crucified to the point of frenzy.
If I was him I’d have fucked off and pissed all over the seats on the way out if that shit was aimed at me.
Wolfie,
“what form does Ashley have in ruining this club”
Show me where I said that, don’t take me out of context to suit your argument please
Wolfie,
If I was him I would think, right they have pissed me off, what two things do they hold dearest? Hmmmm….the atmosphere in their beloved ground.
Let’s destroy the singing section and plaster my companies name on it…whey!!
MORENO, so what are you saying then?
He’s a cock
MORENO, make your own mind up as to why the singing section was dispersed.
MORENO, so he;s just a cock but you know he’s doing a great job of running the club right?
I can accept that.
Yes wolfie, whatever you say. Matches are kicking off so I’ll let you carry this one on alone mate…till next time!
@moreno
Welcome back!
Missed your sensible craic.
Ok mate, love yea.
Giggity goo, alrighttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Death threats and so on are good enough reason to cut your losses, wouldn’t you agree?
Anyway, match time and I’m done discussing MA. Like I said in my final comment on my last blog, this is one debate that will never end. Very few opinions will be changed and that’s just how it is. It’s always a good debate piece, but after so long it becomes boring.
Oh, and for anyone that would like to watch the match and haven’t yet found a link;
http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/105233/3/watch-blackburn-rovers-vs-newcastle-united.html
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