Why should Nile play ‘Lone Ranger’ when Barton was backed so strongly?

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Over the past year or so, 20-year-old striker Nile Ranger has seen his Newcastle United career thrown into turmoil.

From once being touted as one of our academy’s brightest prospects, it would now seem that some very immature and idiotic actions on his own part have all but destroyed his relationship with the Geordie Nation. However, at the risk of being scorned, I must admit to finding some of the criticism he receives a little bewildering.

It goes without saying that I do not condone the actions of Ranger, as we all know he has been a very silly boy. Yet, in my opinion, it seems only right that he is shown the same support which was given to former NUFC bad boy Joey Barton, who I seem to remember spent 77 days in jail while on our books.

Undoubtedly, Barton brought more to the table in terms of ability, but is that alone a good enough reason for us to have overlooked his past if we are now to scrutinise the behaviour of young Nile?

In defence of my case, I have constructed two lists using mainly Wikipedia as my source. The first shows all of Joey Barton’s previous bad behaviour, and the second Nile Ranger’s;


  • Sparked a ten-man brawl in a friendly match against Doncaster Rovers on 25 July 2004 after “hacking” at an opposition player.
  • In December 2004 Joey stubbed out a lit cigar in Manchester City youth player Jamie Tandy’s eye.
  • In the summer of 2005, Barton was sent home from Manchester City’s pre-season tournament in Thailand after assaulting a 15-year-old Everton supporter. Barton had to be restrained from attacking the boy further by teammate Richard Dunne.
  • On 30 September 2006, Barton exposed his backside to Everton fans, following Manchester City’s injury-time equaliser in a game at Goodison Park.
  • Barton was arrested on suspicion of assault and criminal damage after an alleged argument with a taxi driver in Liverpool while going to his hotel after a match on 13 March 2007.
  • Sentenced to six months’ imprisonment on 20 May 2008 for common assault and affray after an incident in Liverpool City Centre. CCTV showed Barton punching a man twenty times, causing him to lose consciousness, and attacking a teenager, breaking some of his teeth.
  • Given a four month suspended sentence plus 200 hours community service and ordered to pay £3,000 compensation on 1 July 2008 after admitting assault occasioning actual bodily harm on former teammate Ousmane Dabo during a training ground dispute. Barton was fined £100,000 and suspended by City until the end of the 2006–07. Dabo said that he had been hit several times, and had to go to hospital after suffering injuries to his head, including a suspected detached retina. Barton was also charged with violent conduct by the FA. He pleaded guilty and on 1 September 2008 was banned for six games with a further six game ban suspended for two years and fined £25,000.
  • In his first appearance in over three months on 3 May 2009, Barton was sent off late in a 3–0 loss to Liverpool at Anfield for a sliding challenge on Xabi Alonso. On 5 May, Newcastle United announced the suspension of Barton indefinitely, and Barton was told to stay away from the club. The suspension was widely reportedly to have resulted not directly from the red card, but from a dressing room confrontation with then manager Alan Shearer and assistant manager Iain Dowie following the game. Shearer said he made a mistake putting Barton back into the team, and that his tackle was “a coward’s tackle”, to which Barton replied that he was “the best player at the club”, and Shearer had to play him. Shearer said that Barton wasn’t, that he was “shit”. Barton replied that Shearer was “a shit manager with shit tactics”. When Dowie intervened, Barton called him “a prick”.
  • On 10 November, in a 2–1 defeat to Blackburn, Barton again acted violently, punching Morten Gamst Pedersen in the chest. He was not punished during the game as the officials did not see the incident, but after reviewing the evidence,the FA again charged Barton with violent conduct.
  • Barton courted controversy once again during Newcastle’s 3–1 win over Liverpool on 11 December 2010, when he appeared to direct homophobic remarks and a lewd gesture at Fernando Torres


  • While playing for Southampton he was sentenced to 11 weeks in a Young Offender’s Institute for his part in an armed street robbery in Muswell Hill. He returned to Southampton after completing his sentence, but was eventually released as a player with a bad reputation. He was offered terms by Swindon Town after a successful trial before Newcastle snapped him up.
  • Nile was pictured holding a gun in May 2011, however, Newcastle announced shortly after this that it was a replica firearm, which is not illegal to own.
  • On 27 August 2011 he was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a man in Newcastle city centre leaving the victim unconscious in the street.
  • In October 2011 he was charged with being drunk and disorderly in Newcastle’s Cathedral Square.

Now, having scanned through the past of both men, wouldn’t you all agree that we are either being over critical of Nile Ranger’s actions, or we were wrong to ever back Joey Barton in the first place? 

180 thoughts on “Why should Nile play ‘Lone Ranger’ when Barton was backed so strongly?

  1. BEARDSLEYS BOOTS – I agree with that. He does need to work hard before getting more support. I just hope everyone else feels like that too and haven’t just written him off completely.


  2. @MARK150 you wrong mate its not just coloured kids runing about with knifes these days,defo needs to be stamped out


  3. @Toonarmyelite

    well it mainly is black boy in L’don but lets not go there.. hot potato but yeah needs stanping out

    Nine out of 10 street crimes, knife crimes and gun crimes are committed by men rather than women.

    Twelve per cent of London’s men are black. But 54 per cent of the street crimes committed by men in London, along with 46 per cent of the knife crimes and more than half of the gun crimes, are thought by the Metropolitan Police to have been committed by black men.



  4. Gary I don’t want to go on and on with this but I was one of the ones that supported Joey when he came, and I found I was a very lone voice for long enough before the majority of fans started to support him.
    But you will find that if the opposition supporters are giving one of our players stick, our supporters will always try to drown that out with vocal applause, but that doesn’t mean that they fully support him.
    I would go as far as to say that I only found that Joey only really got lot of support from the CCC.


  5. MARK
    heres a stat for ya mate do you know if a white guy commits an offence and a couloured guy commits the same offence the coloured guy is 5 times more likey to get sent down and thats a true fact mate 😯


  6. The majority of violent inner-city crime is committed by black men, police figures suggest.
    But the statistics also show that black men are twice as likely to be victims of such crimes.
    Police hold black men responsible for more than two-thirds of shootings and more than half of robberies and street crimes in London, according to figures released by Scotland Yard.
    The statistics released under Freedom of Information laws have provoked a debate about the racial make-up of violent crime in the capital.
    The data, which provides the ethnicity of the 18,091 men and boys who police took action against in London during 2009-10, looked at both violent and sexual offences.

    It found that 67 per cent of those caught by police for gun crimes were black.

    Among those proceeded against for street crimes, including muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property, 54 per cent were black males.
    On sex offences, black men made up 32 per cent of all male suspects, with 49 per cent of those apprehended by police being white men.
    The statistics also suggest that police hold black women accountable for a disproportionate amount of violent crime. On knife crime, 45 per cent of suspected female perpetrators were black.
    Among those women and girls police took action against for gun crime, 58 per cent were black and in robberies that figure was 52 per cent.
    The police statistics relate to those prosecuted – whether convicted or acquitted – issued with a caution, warning or penalty notice.
    But they also include a number of suspects arrested by police that the Crown Prosecution Service decided not to charge and those whose crimes were ‘taken into consideration’ during proceedings for other offences

    but that’s all i’m saying on the matter, I was just trying to suggest that Ranger had worse influences living in L’don’s ghetto


  7. BIG DAVE – That’s fine mate. To an extent you’ve changed my views on this issue today. Some things I’ve said have been wrong. Yet I will stick by Nile for a while yet as I feel he’s still young and maturing and has time to right his previous wrongs.


  8. MARK
    now i see were you going maybe right about bad influnces from his old ghetto thing is he has to be big enough to stand up to them and say no 😀


  9. @G Watson

    “BIG DAVE – That’s fine mate. To an extent you’ve changed my views on this issue today”

    thats the thing with BD, although a negger (joking m8 😉 ) at times hes a very well balanced character with excellent views, one of the best on here actually..

    he’s made me think differently a few times.. so youre to blame for me being a butterfly BD 😆


  10. TOONARMYELITE – I belive it is now seen as offencive to use the term ‘coloured’ when referring to black people. I may be wrong, but I’m sure I heard that and thought I’d point it out as you clearly aren’t racist so just thought I’d let you know for the future.



    thats right m8 he could of said no but it must be hard for some growing up around all the gang shit, esp the ones flee persecution in Africa wanting to lead a better life and then thrusted into gang culture on arriving.. sad state of affairs.


  12. MARK – Since I became a member of this site I’ve always enjoyed debating with Big Dave. Seems a very nice bloke and never intends to get personal no matter how heated the conversation is. That’s exactly how it should be when commenting on a blog, some people just tend to cross lines every now and again.



    I didnt know about it being deemed racist until Alan Hansen said it on motd a few weeks ago. U can see why its not acceptable tho



    Im a tramp and cant afford Sky. 😥 motd for me, only if the toon win, totally pointless otherwise 😀


  15. Lads lets drop the race stuff because its like religion 🙄

    Gary I was brought up in the troubles in Norn Iron and atleast 40% + of people that I knew were involved with paramiltaries which meant allsorts of shit happened I have seen people Shot dead, knee-capped, beaten with baseball bats with 6ins nail in them the lot, I have helped carry countless family and friends coffins because of the troubles.
    But I always believed that if we were brought up with no troubles we wouldn’t think that shootings, beatings etc were just a normal part of life.
    So I would never judge a person because of there up bringing etc and always gave them a chance because people gave me a chance.
    I have backed Ranger from the start and I have took shit over it but I believe everyone deserves a chance, and aslong as you can see the person taking that chance and trying to turn there life around, I will support them. But I haven’t really seen Ranger trying to grasp that chance so until he tries I will wait before backing him again.
    Joey was the same I believed he wanted to change so I supported him but I have seen him trying to make the change, 1 st he stopped drinking and going out getting pissed which I know is a massive step. I have also seen him getting kicked about a football field without retaliating ( Wolves and Henry ) stick in my mind. yes he will still make mistakes because he is not perfect but aslong as he works at it thats good enough for me. 😉
    Here endeth my rant 😀


  16. Gary @ 167 😉 I will go out of my way to respect other people. I try to treat others as I would like them to treat me 😀

    Mark @ 163 so im not a total c@nt then 😆


  17. BIG DAVE – I agree that Nile needs to show he is willing to change. The only problem with there is that with him being a reserve player, we won’t hear much about any good work he is doing, yet you can bet your bottom dollar we will hear all about any slip ups.

    For me, just the fact I haven’t heard his name mentioned for 3-4 month (other than for the Barnsley loan), tells me he’s doing something right.


  18. Barton should not have been supported and should have been shown the door, just like Ranger should be. I think the difference in these examples though, is that Barton was a proven Premiership player that we had paid a lot of money for. Ranger is not.


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