Virgil van Dijk

Ok, that title didn’t quite work, so if you didn’t get it or you’re a bit younger, it was an attempt at playing on the title of an old song by XTC called ‘Making plans for Nigel’.

The reason? Newcastle are apparently looking into the possibility of signing highly rated Dutch defender Virgil van Dijk from Groningen in the summer.

Groningen’s General Manager Hans Nijland has confirmed that the defender and his agent are set for talks with United in the near future ahead of a summer move for the 20-year-old who has been in impressive form this season, making 22 appearances and scoring three goals along the way.

Van Dijk is under contract until 2015 so cash will be needed to secure a deal, but with the player looking to move on and test himself on a bigger stage it seems as though any official approach from United would prompt the player to want to move. Even so, I don’t think it will take a huge fee to prize him away and would say that roughly £4m would be enough to seal any deal.

Now I know next to nothing about this player, but in general our scouting is good so I would hope we’ve put the time and effort into looking at the lad.In fact I’m pretty certain we will have so if Graham Carr and Co rate him then it’s good enough for me.

It also helps add to a position that is in dire need of being strengthened – defence! In fact I’d go as far as to say that I’d be happy with us just concentrating on beefing up our defence over the summer, providing we don’t lose any of our first-teamers course. If we do they will also need replacing.

I’m happy that we seem to be pressing on with things in the transfer market and already have plans in place. What is needed is not a major overhaul in personnel this summer, instead we need to carefully add to what we have already, and with this rumoured interest it would appear that we are looking at doing just that.

Maybe we can have a proper pre-season next time to boot!

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115 Comments

  1. 1
    kimtoon says:

    Why has this been made public ,I didn’t think we worked that way anymore. Now with our recent track record for picking up gems all the PL teams will be sniffing around him if he’s any good, offering more cash . Fair enough if we had him signed up to a preseason contract but the deal ain’t done yet .
    Anyway back to the player in question tbh I know zero about him , anyone watched him at all?,is he any good .

  2. 2
    kimtoon says:

    Toonsy ,I used to love xtc and drove mum & dad mad playing that track :lol:

  3. 3
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Maybe a transfer fee has been set and they have agreed only negotiate with us? Don’t know though, you’re right we haven’t gone about business this way, HBA aside
    Most of our signings have been completely out the blue which is why i will definitely refrain from entertaining anyone with “contacts” that can’t name them.

    Also haven’t seen him, but have got faith in Carr, if he’s decent it could be perfect, good age to ease him in as either Colo’s long term replacement or to challenge Saylor, if we sign a player mid twenties they will likely want first team guarantees.

  4. 4
    premandup says:

    I use earn enogh for us as the ring tone for the Boss. Ride on Time for the missus.

  5. 5
    Rodzilla says:

    Blimey, Alan Carr’s football senses must be working overtime. :roll:

    …I suppose if he wants to leave Groningen they can’t do much about it, after all, young Virgil must be happy, he must be happy, he must be happy in his work.

  6. 6
    Rodzilla says:

    *shite, meant Graham Carr :oops: :razz:

  7. 7
    blip says:

    @Kim, it’s ‘Groningen General Manager Hans Nijlan’ who has leaked this supposed news, so it’s not exactly a change in policy our side.

    Guessing Groningen might want to start a bidding war?

  8. 8
    richietoon says:

    Rod…..it was going so well too ;-) :lol:

  9. 9
    I Love Mike says:

    yeah, call me a cynic but I reckon someone from in the club realised he’s a talent and will probably be on his way, so leaked the story to start a bidding war, exactly what we try to avoid!

    So going by this….we won’t be signing him then! :D

  10. 10
    kimtoon says:

    Blip @7 Well the deal will most likely be off now cause MA don’t like stuff getting out into the public domain .

    Rod@5 :lol: :cool: , Don’t worry about Carr as Sgt Rock (is gonna help him) :grin:

  11. 11
    Rodzilla says:

    Richie, I know, fell at the first :grin:
    Kim, have no fear, I made little Graham promise us he’d be a good boy. :cool: :razz:

  12. 12
    kimtoon says:

    Rod @11 Nice one :grin:

  13. 13
    Troy Stavers says:

    We will only spend £10m so how much of that will go on him? :shock:

  14. 14
    kimtoon says:

    We have to sign him cause Virgil Tracy was the bravest of all the thunderbird pilots ,it must be an omen surely ;-)

  15. 15
    Rodzilla says:

    Got to admit Kim, Virgil Tracy was the first image to appear in my head when I read the title of this article :lol: – closely followed by the face of a lad I went to school with, Alistair Bell, who I nicknamed ‘Virgil’ cos of his massive eyebrows :lol:

  16. 16
    kimtoon says:

    Rod if we sign him and he should ever score the fans have to hum the thunderbirds theme :grin:

  17. 17
    kimtoon says:

    Or sing we’re only seeing goals from Virgil to making plans for nigel tune!

  18. 18
    Nobby says:

    I hated XTC…. Nigel is happy in his world IIIIINNN HIIIIISSS WOOOORLLD.

  19. 19
    Rodzilla says:

    Kim, my money’s on Nigel :lol:

    Nobby, you strike me as more of a ‘Haircut 100′ type of guy :smile:

  20. 20
    richietoon says:

    Nobby loved Kajagoogoo I reckon :shock: …..mind though he ain’t too shy shy :lol:

  21. 21
    Big Dave says:

    Don’t know nowt about him but the fact it’s out there makes me think that we have no interest in him and they’re just trying to get bidders for him

  22. 22
    Rodzilla says:

    Kajagoogoo would certainly beat Haircut 100 in a hair fight Rich. Those boys pissed hair gel.

    reet am off. laters……

  23. 23
    richietoon says:

    Rodz..defo

    Dave…aye agree

  24. 24
    Big Dave says:

    Rich I knew you would because im always right ;-)

  25. 25
    richietoon says:

    Dave…I wouldn’t say always, but often ;-)

  26. 26
    Big Dave says:

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7615542/

    On the defence Willo says “but I am sure it will turn around.” aye when Saylor is back :lol:
    reet back to do a bit, catch yous later

  27. 27
    richietoon says:

    Dave..you’re right again :lol:

  28. 28
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Nile Ranger gets conditional discharge and fined £135 after admitting being drunk and dissorderley. :shock:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-17466073

  29. 29
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    not being a crim, I dont know what that means.
    Please enlighten me.

  30. 30
    batty says:

    BB it means if he gets into any trouble in the next 6 months they might do him for the drunk and disordely charge agen so its nothing realy for a nothing charge ;-)

  31. 31
    Axel says:

    If we are too move for a young dutch defender in the summer then it should be Jeffrey Gouweleeuw from Heerenveen . He is regarded as the best young defender in the eredivisie by a lot of people here and at 21 already looks ready for the next step up , funnily enough his stats for this season are the same as van dijk’s . Played 22 scored 3 and Gouweleeuw has only picked up 1 yellow card as well , thats impressive for a young CB that has played so many games .Gouweleeuw is without a doubt going to be a big player in the future .

  32. 32
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Cheers Batty, seems like a total waste of time and money then.
    Typical of the legal system in this country. :evil:

  33. 33
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Axel – sounds too expensive for us then. :-(

  34. 34
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    can we call him gooey looey :mrgreen: :lol:

  35. 35
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Ha Ha I hope we sign him now :razz:

  36. 36
    Axel says:

    BB my guess is between 5 and 7 million would get him and if you wanted to call him gooey looey do it from a distance just to be safe ;-) he is a strong lad .

  37. 37
    JJ says:

    Richie and Rodz… Bringing up some if my favourite bands…

    Always been told I was born in the wrong decade for my taste in music.

    Now I see why because you guys are old :razz:

  38. 38
    MDS says:

    I never root for Man City but a 16-0 win today would suit me just fine…. ;-)

  39. 39
    Sharpy17 says:

    Initially I thought 4m sounded a lot til I read on and remembered Tiote cost 3.5m and look at what he’s worth now!!

    Lets be right, if he can rescue our defence 4m is worth is it. Him being Dutch you could say it would be an INTERNATIONAL RESCUE!!… Ok, I’m sorry :oops: :roll:

    Thunderbirds was more my era though ;-)

  40. 40
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Wont sign him.

  41. 41
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    We never sign unknowns that we all hear about beforehand :lol:
    Anyone hope QPR lose so barton goes down? ;-)

  42. 42
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    crackin jokes Liam :?:
    I want Liverpoo to lose so King Dogshit gets the sack.
    I heard today he stated they could still qualify for the champs league.
    PMSL and they call us deluded :lol:

  43. 43
    Tsunki says:

    Liam @ 41 -yeah I do a lot :smile:

  44. 44
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    how fickle manc city fans are.
    Applauding Tevez on.
    w@nkers all of em.
    Mind you I hope he scores now :lol:

  45. 45
    richietoon says:

    JJ..not old, we’re just mature kids…..or immature adults maybe ;-)

  46. 46
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    dam the racists are winning :twisted:
    me and my big gob :evil:

  47. 47
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Stoke winning :shock:

  48. 48
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    :roll: :evil:

  49. 49
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Jon, Spurs fan, via text: “10 point lead over Arsenal blown, 4 losses in a row. Levy needs to start taking a long look at Redknapp. To not finish in the top four from where we were is unforgivable.”
    .
    fookin hillarious. :mrgreen:

  50. 50
    richietoon says:

    I wouldn’t wish “taking a long look at Redknapp” s mug on anyone :lol:

  51. 51

    Yes, taking a look at Droopy Dog under any circumstances is cruel and unusual punishment.

  52. 52

    Wow, that is wildly entertaining–QPR, 2-2 out of nowhere.

  53. 53
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    woo hoo come on you QPR 2-2 :lol:

  54. 54
    richietoon says:

    Up the Hoops :shock: :shock: :lol:

  55. 55

    Damn! Spuds went an got a goal. 1-1. Not that we have any hope of catching them. Why do I care?

  56. 56
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    omg :shock:
    qpr 3-2 racists :lol:

  57. 57
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Taxi for Dog leash :mrgreen:

  58. 58

    Ha! QPR last gasp winner! Hilarious!

  59. 59
    SJP14 says:

    Awesome- it doesn’t really matter for us as they’re already in Europe but would love to end above Liverpool.

  60. 60
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    ANd enrique was to blame :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  61. 61
    SJP14 says:

    Apparently Enrique was at fault for the last QPR goal- maybe this is why we sold him he’s going to be a double agent all that contract stuff was a smokescreen.

  62. 62
    Big Dave says:

    BB I didn’t think I would want qpr to win just to teach Joey a lesson but as it’s the bin dippers :lol:

  63. 63
    JJ says:

    WOW… HAHAHA

    Tonights results could not have gone better for us!!

  64. 64
    richietoon says:

    Only Spurs fecked it up for me on the predictor league tonight, feckers

  65. 65
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    That should give Rangers a big confidence boost prior to their game against the scum on saturday.
    Howay the hoops :lol:

  66. 66

    What a turn of events.

    Two points off Chelsea… but if truth be told, they look like a far better team than we do.

  67. 67
    richietoon says:

    Surely Liverpool are closer to a bottom 6 place than a champions league place? :lol:

  68. 68

    Jesus H. Fucking Christ Richie! You’re right!

  69. 69
    JJ says:

    BB

    No way the Scum can catch us now…

    As badly as I feel we are playing – and it has been shit football – we are now practically garaunteed 7th place.

    Wonderful achievement.

  70. 70
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    very observant Richie :roll: :mrgreen:

  71. 71
    Simon says:

    Great set of results tonight, shame Everton couldnt help out, but maybe they are saving themselves for the cup replay.

  72. 72
    JJ says:

    FSOTC

    That’s the negative of tonight.

    Every team that played tonight plays better football apart from perhaps Stoke who Id say are on a par with us…
    We really are a terrible side to watch at the moment…

  73. 73
    richietoon says:

    JJ…..they were never going to catch us, we have taken more points than the scum in the last 10 games or if you want to go on current form we have taken more than them in the last 6 games. People have been believing the medias pro O’Neill bullshit rather than looking at facts. If we have been poor lately then the scum have been worse ;-)

  74. 74

    Yeah, their goal differential vs. ours is pretty telling: 15 to our 0. Still, points is points is points…

    You know, it just occurred to me, watching that game from the couch… Is it coincidence, or did we play far better when Best was in the team? He had a very dry patch, but his link-up with Ba was superb, wasn’t it? Hasn’t Ba kind of gone cold since Leon’s injury?

  75. 75

    Where’s Statto when you need him? How about an comparison of our performances before and since Best’s injury?

  76. 76
    Sharpy17 says:

    Holy Poop!!! what the hell happened at QPR???

    What a great night of results for us!!!

    God I truly hate Liverpool!!!

    Heard something quite worrying on the 3 Legends tonight like, if Bolton, Everton or THE SCUM reach the final of the FA Cup it would mean 6th place misses out on Europe… I’ve emphasised the scum because I spot a potentially sick twist to the end of our season… Christ I hope I’m wrong!!! :sad:

  77. 77
    JJ says:

    Next two games are crucial…

    Lose both and Liverpool will move ahead of us on the log…

    Win both, however, we would be 8 points clear of Liverpool with just 7 games to go… Virtually out of reach and top six secured…

  78. 78

    signing off for a bit…

  79. 79
    richietoon says:

    JJ….what would be a nightmare is the scum losing the FA cup final and nicking a Europa cup spot off us…….not as bad as them winning the fecker, but bad never the less :???:

  80. 80
    JJ says:

    FSOTC

    Not Best mate… Saylor

    Up until Saylor Got injured we had the joint best defense in the league…

    Now of the top 15 clubs, only Norwich have conceded more goals than us.

    Just shows how crap Willo has been and how we’ve missed Steven Taylor.

    How wrong Stardust was…

  81. 81
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Sharpy that’s right.
    It’s sickening that 6th could count for nothing in terms of Europe. We are relying on the scousers to win their tie. Otherwise we would have to get 5th :evil:

  82. 82
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    JJ to be fair Tiote has been missing for half those games as well. Huge miss though. Absolutely insane to think we didn’t make even the slightest of defensive investments in January, even if Williamson was okay, Pards clearly has no faith in Kadar, we have literally noone left.

  83. 83
    richietoon says:

    JJ…you’re assuming Liverpool will beat Wigan, win our next 2 and it’s possible we could be 11 points clear of them….unlikely, but possible ;-)

  84. 84
    JJ says:

    Richie @73

    Agreed, that’s why I bet a mate 100 quid they wouldn’t catch us… Think that bets safe…

    Problem is I owed him from a game before when I gave him 10/1 odds that we’d never lose to Stevenage last year. So we should be square.

  85. 85
    richietoon says:

    JJ…. at least you’ll get your money back, for future reference never bet on the Toon v a lower league club in the cup ;-)

    …on that note I’m outta here, later lads

  86. 86
    JJ says:

    Solano I know. It was a terrible gamble. We’ve been so fortunate with other results this year. We could honestly have challenged the top four.

    Throwing it away at Fulham, missing the pen against Scum, last minute against Arsenal. Drawing from 2-0 up against Wolves. That’s 10 dropped points…

    We’d be sitting in 3rd now. And it could have been done with some defensive investment…

    We probably won’t have an opportunity like this for many seasons to come… It’s been a strange season… One of opportunity.

  87. 87
    Susan says:

    QPR have just taken some of the sting out of our draw with Wolves for me, beating the bindippers from 2-0 down :lol:

  88. 88
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    JJ I reckon we have one more slight window next season, whether we will see the investment to match in the summer i’m not sure, but i think Tottenham/Chelsea/Liverpool will all still be shaky next year.

    All goes back to that Luiz sending off on Ba!

  89. 89
    JJ says:

    I’m out too.

  90. 90
    Big Dave says:

    FSOTC I think the think is Best played in most of the games when Saylor was in the side, but from Best has been out we have had Willo and a few game we didn’t have Tiote Cabaye etc so it would make them stats void imo

  91. 91
    funkyjesus says:

    Has Demba Ba even scored since we signed Cisse?

    If he has, it isn’t often. It seems to have knocked him off his game.

  92. 92
    Halftimebovril says:

    FJ

    He scored the first in the win over Villa, don’t think he’s scored since mind

  93. 93
    Newkie says:

    Erique-absolute clanger tonight :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
    Maybe he’s trying to save some face, make sure liverpool finish below us because he’s only realised what a bunch of c*nts they are now?

  94. 94

    I’m struggling to recall exactly, but with Best connecting to Ba, Ba seemed to be aflame. Since Best got injured, Ba just hasn’t been putting ‘em away.

    Probably better explanations out there–the Best connection may be more more correlation than causation–but I would be very curious to see someone with real stat & strat chops take up the question.

    Help me Statto-wan Kenobi! You’re my only hope!

    STATTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  95. 95

    Defensively, we’ve definitely suffered since Saylor’s absence. I have to admit, I was critical and very doubtful of the boy, but my-oh-my, was I wrong.

    Willo–well, he works hard… and I want him to do well, and sometimes he does okay, but he’s definitely in a rough patch.

  96. 96
    DJG says:

    wow great results for us tonight. If this doesn’t spur the lads on then nothing will. Chelsea play Spurs next as well, a result at the baggies could see us catch or even overtake them and a result in the ‘pool game would keep them at bay. Never a better time to go on a good run of results.

  97. 97
    DJG says:

    funkyjesus March 21, 2012 at 23:00
    Has Demba Ba even scored since we signed Cisse?
    If he has, it isn’t often. It seems to have knocked him off his game.

    In the games that they have played together, Ba has played deeper and out wide more. He tracks back more and is more like a ‘no.10′. Whereas Cisse is like the ‘no.9′ that gets on the end of things and plays closer to goal. He has scored another 2 goals since Villa when they both scored. I’m not too bothed tbh. This means they are striking a good balance and partnership and complement each other rather than get in each others way. Cisse is a born goal poacher by the looks of it so no harm him being in the box. Pardew said he was signed for his finishing and to be at the ‘end of play’. Ba will get less goals with Cisse in the team but does it matter, it’s a team game.

  98. 98

    Is it a case where we’re only creating x number of opportunities and either Ba or Cisse’s going to collect them?

  99. 99

    I mean regardless of Best & Ba or Cisse & Ba pairings–the chances our team creates are just pretty few & far between, so either one of them, each of whom is a great finisher, is going to reap the rewards?

  100. 100
    Pootle says:

    I think Cisse and Ba would score a lot more if we played Ben Arfa behind them rather than the right wing. Ben Arfa himself would probably chip in with a few too.

  101. 101
    Pootle says:

    Cabaye, Tiote and Perch in the middle should be pretty strong defensively and mean if one of them does surge forward we aren’t left weak in the middle. It would mean Ben Arfa wouldn’t be needed defensively tracking back as much.

  102. 102
    AngelOfDeath says:

    I mentioned before,as long as liverpool,chelsea,spurs. Any two of them in fa cup final. We are guarenteed for europa if we stay on 6th-7th. ;-)

    As for ba+cisse. I feel this pairing is just decent enough. But is difficult to see both scoring together,due to the fact that both are similar strikers. Unless we get shola into play,he will be providing the assists to both strikers.

    That will be a 3front forward line up. :razz:

  103. 103
    Troy Stavers says:

    The way Chelsea are in turmoil I think we could get 5th.

    We have to keep winning of course and that’s looking our biggest hurdle at the moment.

  104. 104
    wolfie says:

    A haphazard 1-0 win at home against Norwich doesn’t seem like the perk me up but it will have done the world of good to kick us back on track.
    If we can go to W.B.A and hopefully take the 3 points and other results go in our favour like they did mostly last night, then we would be sailing along comfortably with 8 games to go.

    As it stands now, we are 5 points clear of Liverpool and 2 behind Chelsea…
    If we could claim 3 points and say Liverpool draw at best, then theoretically we can be 7 points clear with 8 games remaining , leaving a home game against Liverpool to come, which if we won that, that’s Liverpool blown out of the water and we can seriously think about pushing Chelsea for that 5th place.

    All pie in the sky theory at the moment but it’s very possible.
    Hopefully, we will get our second breath as Arsenal seem to have done and go on a confidence boosting run to the end of the season…

    Who knows eh. :grin:

  105. 105
    EvilFranky says:

    Call me a cynic but I can’t see us getting anything from West Brom. They dismantled Scumberland with ease at home and our form hasn’t been much better.

    With Willo having a very rough patch, I’m betting his confidence will be rock bottom at the minute.

    Would take a draw before a ball had been kicked.

  106. 106
    Johno Toon says:

    If ( and that is a big IF ) we beat West Brom and Spurs and Chelsea drew this weekend we would be 5 point off Champions League spot with 8 games to go :shock:

  107. 107
    Johno Toon says:

    Franky @105 I would be the same with West Brom , they are a good side.

  108. 108
    wolfie says:

    EVILFRANKY, considering we are in 6th place and West Brom are no where near, what puts the thought in your head that we can take the 3 points?

    Are you basing it on history or because you think Willo or someone will have a stinker or is it that West Brom are suddenly top notch and we are shit?

    Seriously, what makes you think on the downside like this?

  109. 109
    wolfie says:

    Can=Can’t . :grin:

  110. 110
    EvilFranky says:

    Wolfie – Because as Johno said West Brom have been decent under Hodgson, they beat us at home and now we have to go and play them at their place where they have taken the scalps of Chelsea and Scumberland who are teams around us.

    In their last 7 games they have only lost twice, and have scored 13 goals…

    No not impossible but that form doesn’t fill me with confidence. Plus having a very shaking CB more than likely low on self esteem…you get the picture.

  111. 111
    Big Dave says:

    Evil I think your right I do think we will struggle against WBA as im sure they will put up a better fight than Norwich or Wolves.

  112. 112
    EvilFranky says:

    Big Dave – Will will get beat if we perform like we did against Wolves or Norwich.

    I dunno what it is but we seem to score then completely go to sleep?? Wolves were there for the taking, then we totally fluffed it. Against Norwich we did nearly the same except we didn’t concede so went on to an unconvincing 1-0 victory.

    I just hope we up our game…

  113. 113
    CC says:

    West brom are a good side and i really rate hodgson as a manager but i cant see any reason why we cant win there, Yes they beat us earlier in the season but we did have perch at centre half, vuckic in midfield and best getting caught offside every two minutes.

    Tiotes back shielding our back four, Williamson is dodgy but probably would have dealt with two of west broms goals at sjp which were tap ins from knocked down crosses when they took advantage of our lack of height and the dembas up top we have every chance for me…

  114. 114
    M says:

    West Brom have consistently had the better of us over the past 2 years or so. Recall the two Championship games – both draws but both times outplayed and lucky to get a point.
    Same season we went there in the cup and got a spanking.
    Moving on to last year, we got dicked at their place again and then enjoyed a rare 45 mins of dominance before capitulating to a 3-3 draw at SJP.
    That brings us to our home game earlier this season… where, surprise surprise, West Brom outplayed Newcastle and avoided defeat

    Not saying we can’t get a result on Sunday like…. but it would have been tough even if we were in good nick

  115. 115
    Army69 says:

    hard game on sunday as west brom are our bogey team!! they hammerd us in december when it came to attacking and i think 1 upfront on sunday with 5 in midfield may help!! i will be really happy with a point on sunday and really hope tiote gets back into the team!! my team on sunday would be

    ================krul==================
    simpson======colo===wilo==========santon
    benny===perch====tiote====cabaye===jonas
    =================ba==================

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