That figure is a jump of £8m from last season where we brought in just over £46m although most of that can be attributed to finishing 5th instead of 12th.
The top earners were, unsurprisingly, the two Manchester clubs with City coming out on top yet again although both clubs scooped just over £60m for their efforts. Tottenham came third, followed by Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool with us sitting in 7th place. The full table is as follows:
1. Manchester City £60.6m
2. Manchester United £60.3m
3. Tottenham £57.3m
4. Arsenal £56.2m
5. Chelsea £54.4m
6. Liverpool £54.4m
7. Newcastle £54.2m
8. Everton £48.9m
9. Fulham £47.4m
10. West Brom £46.6m
11. Swansea £45.9m
12. Norwich £45.6m
13. Sunderland £44.4m
14. Stoke £43.6m
15. QPR £43.3m
16. Wigan £42.8m
17. Aston Villa £42.1m
18. Bolton £40.6m
19. Blackburn £40.3m
20. Wolves £39.1m
So how have we got to this figure?
Well essentially it’s all about league position and how many games you’ve been on TV for. Each club is guaranteed £32.4m as an equal share of the pot for domestic and overseas TV rights – £13.7m domestic and £18.7m overseas. It is then topped up as follows.
Each club is awarded £755,000 for each league position they finish in. Wolves finished bottom and got just the flat £755,000 whereas we finished 5th so received £12.08m.
Each club then gets another £570,000 per televised game, with a guaranteed minimum amount of £5.7m for each club. We’ve had 15 I believe which takes us up to the £52.4m.
What these figures show is that there isn’t too much difference between us and those at the top of the table. We brought in similar amounts to Chelsea and Liverpool and we’re only £6m off the top earners at Manchester City.
It also shows that we’re only £14m from what the bottom team picked up, which shows how important it is to be in the Premier League as the difference in prize money isn’t that great from top to bottom.
This is where other resources, like sponsorship, merchandising and prize money from other sources comes into play. We may be 7th in this table, albeit only a whisker away from Chelsea and Liverpool, but when you take everything into consideration that gap in income will be much bigger.
Still, £54.2m is not to be sniffed at and will pretty much cover our wage bill, leaving other income streams to be used for other stuff, like maybe team strengthening.
Well, one can dream…
we were shown live on tv more than 15 times. so about £1.7m to add to those figures which puts us 5th.
gazza(Quote)
The bottom three are exactly in order of relegation, spooky. ❗
DJG(Quote)
DJG its nearly the same as the league table.mad
hitman(Quote)
Gazza – Possibly, I though 15 was low, but these are the figure released by the PL, so we won’t be 5th, we’ll still have the same total amount. They won;t have calculated it wrong…
toonsy(Quote)
I think the figures are only the SKY money – we were on ESPN a few times as well – not sure how much we get for that
3hourswasted(Quote)
Just saw the 20 season PL team, shearers in it. Theirs two; the Panel(pundits) and the public vote (both have shearer and Henry upfront). In the panel vote they had rio Ferdinand in defence 😯 . 20 years of PL defenders and they chose that lanky clumsy **** 😡 .
Andymag(Quote)
I wonder why there’s a £5.3m gap between us & the Toffees then 😕 we were obviously show live on TV more to get that much more & only £0.2m behind the likes of Chelski & Cessepool who’re supposedly bog clubs 😆 😆
I’m guessing as well that our gate & merc revenue would have gone up somewhat this season too… looks like a bounty transfer warchest for Pards 😉 😉
Toon69(Quote)
I’m surprised that we’re below Liverpool to be honest, was sure we were on more often and they’re boring. Unless it takes into account cup games. Does it Toonsy?
Andymag(Quote)
3hours – ESPN get there coverage off Sky, so won’t get any extra for being on there, it comes under the overseas tv money I believe 😉
Toon69(Quote)
Toon69
War chest for Carr you mean? 😉 However Carr would consider 15m to be a war chest and for that we’d get a junior messi that would win us the league
Andymag(Quote)
T69 – Well £1.51m of that is prize money difference between 5th and 7th.
toonsy(Quote)
With regards one of your ‘related topics’ above Sy, I wonder how far up the Football Rich list this seasons revenue will take us, back into the top 20 of Europe maybe, above the likes of the Vile 😆 😆
Toon69(Quote)
T69 – I’d say pretty much we’ll be in the top 20 again. Only just I reckon but we’ll be there.
toonsy(Quote)
Don’t understand yer comment @ 11 Sy, how is it £1.51m difference between 5th & 7th 😕
Toon69(Quote)
T69 & Toonsy
Top 20? Really? Would have thought top 40 was pushing it. How rich are we compared to the rest of European clubs?
Andymag(Quote)
Andymag, I think we were only just outside top 20 last season about 28 or summit & the Vile were 20th, so with them finishing 16th & us 5th, we should easily jump above them 😆
Toon69(Quote)
T69 – Each place is worth £755,000 yeah, so two places between 5th and 7th = 2 x 755,000 which makes £1.51m no?
toonsy(Quote)
Oh the vile are AV 🙄 how the hell were they top20 they’re boring as f*ck to watch. If we were 28th when 12th we’re bound to be around 18/19th then
Andymag(Quote)
Did you know we were the 9th richest club in Europe in 02/03 season 😯 with a revenue of £139.3m 😮
Toon69(Quote)
T69
We were in the CL then though weren’t we?
Andymag(Quote)
Oic Sy, yeah, sorry wasn’t thinking straight there 🙄 😆
Toon69(Quote)
Andy – We were 25th when the last one came out.
Off topic but I see the glory supporters are back 🙄
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/05/15/nufc-reveal-they-have-season-ticket-waiting-list-72703-30971098/
T69 – The problem is that it’s not what we generate that is the issue, it’s the fact that other clubs generate much much more now than what they did. Teams like Tottenham generate far more, and that is just in England. Further afield the same applies with cubs like Lyon having a decade of Champions League money behind them to help them grow etc etc
toonsy(Quote)
Aye Andy under Sir Bob 😉
Toon69(Quote)
Oh I understand that Sy, I just think we’ll be back in the top 20 this season & even higher next if we have a good run in Europe… extr TV money ya see 😆 😆
As for the link & glory hunters…. I’m moving back to Edinburgh in 3 weeks, so might be looking to get mesel a ST for next season, will see if there are any left when I get back… lol
As for the waiting list, thats only for people who want seats in area’s other have them & haven’t renewed yet, I did think about putting my name down for the East Stand center like but might just go for the 1892 club instead.. 😆
Toon69(Quote)
Anyone know what home attendences averaged compared to last year? I imagine that should be decent amount of cash. Also, when does the new vigin money deal kick in.
MDS(Quote)
MDS
I know this season we averaged just under 50,000. Around 49,700 I think. Last season I think it was around 46,000
Andymag(Quote)
49,936 this season
47,717 last season
richietoon(Quote)
Does the average attendance take into account the away fans? Because they rarely fill their area and we’ve given them like 4000 seats.
Andymag(Quote)
Those figures are ish, because I looked in a few places and they seemed to come up with differing figures but they seemed to be the most common….give or take 😕
richietoon(Quote)
Thanks. I didnt realize we averaged that many last year
MDS(Quote)
Andy….yep, it doesn’t go off tickets sold but the amount actually scanned into the stadium…….unless you’re Arsenal, as a few games they’ve had a rake load of empty seats but still post it as being full 👿
richietoon(Quote)
Richie
Sounds odd that arsenal would have lots of empty seats considering the waiting list for tickets is like 3 months, almost as bad as Bayern München(mate of mine had an 8month wait)
Andymag(Quote)
Richie
So really we could have filled up the stadium on many occasions, it was just the away fans that were affecting attendance numbers 👿
Andymag(Quote)
I see T. Cahill’s red card appeal failed. Does that mean he’s got a longer suspension?
Andymag(Quote)
Andy…just certain games I’ve noticed it, probably just season ticket holders seat who couldn’t be arsed going, if they were general sale tickets they wouldn’t say it was a sell out or they’d be paying tax for money they never got.
Aye, the problem with Bayer is they only allow a small(ish) number of seats to be season ticket, the rest are for general sale I think.
richietoon(Quote)
Andy….not really, if the away fans don’t sell many and there’s a demand for tickets the club will sell the seats to home fans, I think our main problem was empty seats in the corporate areas in the first half of the season…..or just not the demand in general from Toon fans, especially at the beginning of the season(holiday time)
richietoon(Quote)
Interesting. It’s surprising how little difference there is.
It’s a good thing that its relatively spread out equally or it would be a more divided league.
Look forward to seeing how we’ve done overall with all revenues and take offs are worked out.
Can you work that out now Toonsy and I will drop back to see the results after a coffee. 😆
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@andymag
You ask;
Does the average attendance take into account the away fans? Because they rarely fill their area and we’ve given them like 4000 seats.
Answer;
It does include the ones that turn up but not the ones who don’t. It doesn’t include the seagulls that haven’t paid their entry fee either, even if they perch on an empty seat. It’s quite a complicated scenario cos when we averaged 52k for a lot of years they didn’t include the away fans. Therefore if they had we would have totalled 56k in a 52k stadium.
It’s a conundrum but if you sit back for more than a nano second it hits you bang in the face like a sledgehammer .
Only jokin Andy, it was just a ridiculous question. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Cheers Richie and Troy 😉
Andymag(Quote)
I think when the new figures come out. We will be operating at a slight profit.
I still feel we might need to sell a big name to provide a transfer kitty.
JJ(Quote)
JJ
Aye sell Simpson to Chelsea for 7/8m and Best to Celtic for 2/3m and that’s our transfer kitty
Andymag(Quote)
@JJ – yeah I think thats what Pards is going on about i.e. selling a big name to eneable us to buy a couple
stevep(Quote)
JJ- from the sound of pards comments we’ll bring in 2-3 and will buy replacements if.anyone major.is sold
MDS(Quote)
Probably Simpson,Guthrie and Best will go, don’t be surprised if Elliot goes(or at least moved down the pecking order) so they’ll need replacing, plus the aforementioned 2-3 MDS mentioned 😉 ……lovenkrands will obviously be off too, and probs Ranger but I don’t think they’ll buy replacements for them.
richietoon(Quote)
JJ – So what happened to the£32,2m profit we made from last season 😕
Toon69(Quote)
One thing that sticks out like a sore thumb for me is our goal difference: plus 5 is not good enough when you look at the teams around us. Everton at plus 10 in 7th place and Chelsea at plus 19 in sixth. We have to bring in a centre back or even 2. It is so obvious that Willo is not up to it. Surely that must be our biggest buy of the summer to improve the squad and maintain our chances of finishing top 6 next season. With the money pouring in no excuses Ashley. Pardew the LMA choice for manager of the year as well. A fantastic season for him. He has saved his career and looks to be solid for us for a few seasons to come. Don’t rest on your laurels Pards. Lets win something next season! 😀
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Pretty much agree richie. Simpson,Guthrie, Lovenkrands, and Best will go with probably 2 defenders and CM coming in. If Ba goes, we’ll bring in another striker.
MDS(Quote)
It looks like Pardew has resigned himself at losing one of his top stars by reading his quote in the chronicle.
If there has been a bust up then that’s likely what it’s been over.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I don’t think there has been a bustup Troy. Pardew is just facing facts that Ashley will sell at the right price as with Carroll. We have attracted a lot of attention from the big clubs with our play this season. Ba’s release clause has put the fox in the hen house so I’m sure some bids will come in for him. In some ways it is a blessing he played so poorly in the last few games as that will have cooled interest. Cisse is a different matter. How much would Ashley be willing to turn down before selling him? My guess is it would take an offer similar to Carroll’s to turn his head.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
It’s announced in the chronicle that for the first time since 2000, there is a waiting list for tickets at SJP. Good news. 😎
Troy Stavers(Quote)
i dont mind loosing 1 but any more would be a fkin disaster
hitman(Quote)
If it’s one I would hope Tiote. Not saying he shouldn;t be kept, but I think he is the one we can do without the most if you know what I mean? I mean he missed enough games last season through ACoN and injury so…
toonsy(Quote)
Newcastle were live on Foxtel 38 times.
brisvegas(Quote)
aye toonsy thats who i think it might be.
he just hasnt looked himself for a good few games..
hitman(Quote)
Toonsy – I agree regarding Tiote but we had Guthrie as back up and he did really well. In fact I thought he was fantastic this season. The risk with selling yourbest players is that you replace them with inferior ones. How many more rabbits from Carr?
Stuart79(Quote)
Tiote would be very difficult to replace. He was outstanding in many of our important games this season. His qualities are rare. A very good passer and attack destroyer when on his game. Makes it very difficult for the opposing midfielders (and often painful as well). I would sooner try to replace Ba, especially since we are still not sure about his knee. The key will be to replace any of this top players with someone even better. We clearly need a real winger with pace and a decent cross. This is a great debating point though and very difficult to decide. I still think the key will be to improve the defense first.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Troy Stavers says:
May 15, 2012 at 18:04
It’s announced in the chronicle that for the first time since 2000, there is a waiting list for tickets at SJP. Good news.
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So that’s the big news out of the club troy? 😉 I do think you oversold it a bit mind
MDS(Quote)
I’ve said for awhile that i think tiote will go this summer. I certainly don’t want to lose him, but I sort of agree with toonsy. We’d get a bundle for him and we never lose too much when he’s out of the lineup- though we do lose some. I do think we could get a solid DM for a fraction of what we’d get for tiote, with Perch also getting a chance to play that role
MDS(Quote)
Speaking of positions … I’m pleased to see that I finished in the top 50 in the NUFC Fantasy League. Having been top for the first 2 weeks you might think I’d be disappointed in that, but no.
In January I was still in with a shout at 7th, but then I had a career change and lost touch with my team, and by the time I got back to managing just two months later I was barely in the top 100.
So I’m pleased I made a good recovery to get to 49th.
brisvegas(Quote)
My favourite position is still orthodox missionary.
brisvegas(Quote)
GEORDIETWO
think it would take a bid of 50 million plus for toon to sell cisse boys a natural finisher 😆 even then i dont think toon would sell him
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
krul tiote cabeye afra and cisse wont be sold in my opion
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
Toonarmylite @ 61 I think Ashley would jump at 50 M for Cisse but it would be a disaster. He would undo all the good things he has done in the last few months and bring the wrath of the Toon Army back down on himself. I would keep the same players as you and I would add Santon and Colo to the list.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
GEORDIETWO il agree with santon but collo i would lisner to offers hes to slow for me.
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
@Begas
We all know your favourite position! Aussie Mag has told us all when you were recovering from the effects of Rohypnol . 😛 or was that Aussies favourite cos you were oblivious. 😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
but i can see us sign at least 1 big name central defender if not 2 both big and pacey who can get back into postion if we lose the ball.we got 5 plus goal difference,if krul had not been in such good form would of been a lot worse.
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
TROY STAVERS
hey was that 5 pound bet worth all the sweating there lmao
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
Agree completely Toonarmylite @66. We are not nearly good enough at the back to maintain top 6 and play in Europe as well as try for a domestic cup. We must improve the back 4 a huge amount. Colo could be a big asset with the right partner however as he showed when Saylor was fit. We must improve hugely on the wings as well. Don’t really see Ben Arfa as a winger. He clearly would play best as a second striker or rover behind the striker.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
GEORDIETWO i agree we need a good winger sort of hopeing for hoilett meself pace to burn.
TOONARMYELITE(Quote)
Toonarmylite what do you think of Jonas? Should he be a starter next season? Sometimes he plays so well but his style seems to cause him to burn out now and then and he is not the paciest player around. He is very clever with the ball but tends to hold on to it too long sometimes. I just never know what to expect from him. Definitely a squad player though as he has a great attitude and works his buns off.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Best of the rest…lets hope we can improve, its not just about us though and I fear we still need others to fall…Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool etc…
Newkie(Quote)
Get in! Norwich equalize 😀 Been better than Spurs over the 90 mins.
Jon R(Quote)