Deserving of a new deal?
And why not? After picking up two Manager of the Season awards it could be argued that his stock has never been higher, so doesn’t it make sense to try and renegotiate whilst in a relative position of strength? Isn’t that what you would do?
Pardew is not on great money if reports are to be believed. Details are sketchy on such things, rightly so, but going by recent history of managerial contracts I think it would be safe to assume that his basic wage isn’t that great compared to other Premier League managers, and that his contract will be heavily performance based. If you want money from this regime then you must earn it!
It was well publicised at the time that Pardew was awarded with a five-year deal. It was almost unheard of for a new manager to get such a long deal but, for the moment anyway, it looks to be something that has worked out for Ashley and Co.
However football management is a fickle occupation and whilst Pardew is getting the backing of the majority for now, there is always the chance that a run of poor results or a season where expectations aren’t exceeded/fulfilled will see that popularity start to disappear.
In short I do think he deserves a pay rise although it is hard to work out what level of pay he should be getting without knowing what he is on currently. The problem with a pay rise though is that it makes getting rid a of a manager that bit more expensive, and I’m sure it’s something Mike Ashley will want to avoid again after the whole Sam Allardyce affair.
At the end of the day I do think he deserves a new deal, but I’m also wary if he was to be offered one. Personally I think a little bit of insecurity can be a good thing and can stop people becoming complacent within their role, and with a contract based on incentives, like most of ours are, I think it is generally enough to keep anyone on their toes and keep them working towards making us better.
Would you offer Pards a new deal?
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I hope argues his case better than Danny Simpson
Yes for me and he will get one.. as much as you can fault Ashley, he rewards good performers so it makes sense that Pards will benefit. How much… well I can’t say I am privy to what pl managers are on so.. feck knows
No, I wouldnt offer him a new deal. He has signed a 5 year contract which he was incredibly fortunate to be offered in the circumstances ie. no one expected Hughton to be fired, and Pardew had no reason to think he would ever be in line for a top job having last been sacked by Southampton in the (then) 1st Division, and no one else beating a path to his door.
He’s done brilliantly but that is not the point. A contract is a contract. And he would be far better concentrating on proving last season was not just a fluke. Or would he accepty a pay cut if the team fail to improve next season? He is 18 months into a 5 year contract – come back in another 18 months with a trophy or a top 4 finish, and maybe he will deserve a decent rise.
As it is, I doubt he is having to apply for tax credits or housing benefit to top up his meagre income.
I don’t know because I don’t know how much he’s on , but if you go by some reports he wasn’t getting paid owt as he was just clearing his gambling debts.
I just know that he is worth holding on to.
I see that dirty scouse cnut Carra managed to take his heed oot the bin long enough on ITV last night to proclaim that Jelavic is just as good if not better than Cisse!!!
Aye right, and King fcuking Kenny should have got manager of the season!!
Usually turn on itv a minute before kick off, Mute the telly and have 5live commentary on the wireless and switch off as soon as the final whistle blows.
Im not surprised carraghers got his feet under the table with the rest of their clowns the cunty bindipping donald duck hybrid…
Jelavic is a good player but better than Cisse…
Pardiola is supposed to be paid a retainer and a percentage of profit generated by achievement which leads to taking home huge money.
Renegotiating early is not likely to be appreciated because he sets the tone however if Ashley decides to extend the term I would be chuffed
I’m amazed at how difficult I am finding it to answer this question. It’s dead right that he has done a fantastic job last season and the sentimental side of me says absolutely he should, but it’s a business at the end of the day and really he’s earned his money.
I had my annual review where I work in April and I’m not blowing my own trumpet but it was excellent, but were now into June and they still haven’t mentioned a pay rise yet?!
I know the football world is different and you could argue that if Pardew done shit he’d have been sacked so having done well he should be reward.
Personally I’m a fan of the incentive based salary. Set a salary that would remain consistent and then build bonuses on top, ie win the league you get X mill bonus, top 4 finish and that’s X about of bonus, so on, and almost bespoke a managers or players salary each season. I know it would be very difficult to set up and perhaps maintain, and would need the whole league to sign up to it. But I think that would be a way for clubs to survive, because for many, wage bills are a huge problem.
YES YES YES
I think that his incentive base contract is one to keep. Maybe do well for us again next season and he would deserve a bump in his base salary
well if this is owt to go by yes give him one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRw45yS1n60
watched that 3 times its a scream imo
Ice – that is fucking brilliant – absolutely genius!!!
No way.
The manager should be under the same restraints as the players, a hell of a lot of our players performed above expectations last season, we can’t give everyone a bumper rise, he has too long left currently imo.
Simmo is just as deserving of a pay rise i think as he signed in the champ.
Seems like Newcastle are definately coming to South Africa for their preseason. Along with Man United.
Newcastle will be playing Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates, two huge clubs and maybe Mamelodi Sundowns in the Vodacom Cup.
Most of the key players will probably be in Europe but still it’ll be the first time In get to watch them live.
ST – that’s sort of what I mean about you can’t give everyone a new contract just coz we have a good season, but with the bonus scheme you could reward the players that made it such a good season. I know there is one in place now to a degree but if all players were on say £20k then bonuses for appearances and performance, it would make things far more sustainable for clubs. I know that’s never going to happen but it would get rid of greedy agents and clubs huge debt.
JJ – I’m really pleased to see Newcastle playing in these pre season cups and tournaments. I think it’s a much better way of raising our profile and increase support worldwide than having a one off friendly game that only the supporters of the 2 teams involved are interested.
SHARPY i liked the bit were they were shitting them selves didnt want to tell who got 2 goals
Any news worth noting over in the UK fella’s?
Totally agree with RotherValleyMag@2……….”proving last season was not just a fluke. Or would he accept a pay cut if the team fail to improve next season? He is 18 months into a 5 year contract – come back in another 18 months with a trophy or a top 4 finish, and maybe he will deserve a decent rise.”
…you could argue that his ‘workload’ has been increased this season through Europa League football, but I’m sure a healthy bonus would’ve taken care of that. If we qualify for Europe again next year, fair enough, but for me now is too soon to up his wages, unless of course he’s prepared to have them cut back down again if we fail to get into Europe next season and have a stinker. He needs to prove consistency to me, and that means more than one year. We have bigger fish to fry at the moment anyway, he might have a different squad of players to work with come August.
Ice – I like the “how can I show my face in bleu bamboo again” and the money spent on McDs for him and Andy Reid.
Forget Pardews pay rise, whoever put that together deserves a big bloody cheque
Why sign Tiote on a longer deal for more money after 1 year… everyone seemed happy with that.. why sign Carr for a longer deal..
Ashley is a clever business man who knows how to protect an asset.. so why would it be any different with Pardew
AMF hoy some of your sun owr here and might get over to benton to scout aboot,can do nowt with all this rain been weeks noo,might ask richie to lend me his mac then i could camp oot owr there
Aussie – perfectly valid point, plus Pardew is one of the lowest paid managers in the league and it would be another step to showing everything is settled at the club and the direction we want to go
Ice
don’t go out looking like Richie mate.. you get arrested on the spot and you don’t want to be in jail in a flashy white mac 
Aussie, Carr was a no-brainer – he makes Ashley money buy doing exactly what Ashley knows, buy cheap with large sell-on value and huge profit potential. Tiote’s improved contract also means one thing only to me, more expensive to buy from us = more money for NUFC. So they both make financial sense to Fatty. Barcelona ain’t gona come in trying to take Pardew off us. I think if he takes us through a successful European campaign AND qualifies again, then a pay rise is justifiable as he’s doing more work and bringing more cash to the club. Just my thoughts on the article anyway.
TOON CHICKEN
Im Senegalease, but I can Tell You Jelavic is Clearly Better than Papiss Cissé!
Rodz, if Pardz performs he will make Ashley money.. just by finishing top 5 he had made extra millions fo the big man.. Europe = $$ as you said… and who knows Liverpool could be in for him after next season
Why is my avatar a question mark? ? Maybe it knows me better than I know myself
Never mind its back to normal.. nothing to see here move on.
…that would suggest to me whatever device you’re viewing the site on ain’t loading up the blank avatar image Aussie, fark knows.
Yeah, regarding Pardew, he will have helped make more money for the club by finishing 5th, fair enough, but at the end of the day I know bugger all about the wage structure at NUFC. I’d imagine he got a big bonus to handle that but I know as much as the next man. For me, I just think he needs to do it again to prove his worth. Maybe I’m just a tight b@stad
…or maybe it’s because he’s a Londoner
I wouldn’t say you were tight Rodz
Like a wizard’s sleeve Aussie
Like sticking it in a warm bucket of water
Trust the Aussie to lower the tone
Rodz you can’t always be the bad guy
fair dinkum cobba
Pardz could also be courted by the fa for the england job after they bow out of the euro’s after the group stages .. so if he was on solid coin here, he may not jump ship so readily..
…you been watching much of the Euros Aussie? I know it’s daft o’ clock for you over there in upside down land. I might stick some money on England tonight. We’re big underdogs. The pressure’s on France I reckon.
…I have a feeling we might do a lot better than most people think.
AMF pardew has said he would like to manage england “one”day,was that a hint?,think it could be a benny show today
Na Rodz, I have foxtel which I pay a fair wack for each month and that allows me to watch a shed load of football. But the Euros are on setanta sports which is an extra charge on top of that.. Can’t afford it or the divorce
You guys have a good team but f*ck they under perform.. could go either way tonight for mine..
Hopefully he won’t be ‘too’ good Ice, more more reasons than one.
…our first team is actually quite good. I hope we play Axolotl Chamberlain instead of Downing too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9323999/Euro-2012-England-could-opt-for-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-ahead-Stewart-Downing-against-France.html
Old Woy will be shitting himself Ice.. Benny tore it up against his WBA boys last time they met.–
ROD dowling is crap imo,daglish at that time a choice him or young,good old daglish chose his normal bargain buy
Ice, I think Downing just had a lucky first season with the smoggies, until everyone realised his left foot was decent enough but his right one is just there to stop him from falling over.
reet, I’m off, laters…….
I say put his name on the bloody stadium. Pardew Park. Just rolls off the tonge
Yes he needs a pay rise because
1- he deserves it
2- it brings stability to the club which helps things tick along
3- it protects NUFC from losing him for peanuts if a bigger job is offered him.
4- it reinforces his power within the club that will keep players in line in respecting his decisions
5- he fcking deserves it.
If you did for your company what pardew did for this club and didn’t get a pay rise you’d burn the building down. I know I would
If we were talking about one of the star players everyone would be screaming for Ashley to open up his wallet. Pardew is as important if not more important than any of our star players…
IMO
Danish newspapers suggest that both Newcastle and Reading has made a bid for Dame N’Doye.
7 mill. Euros
DT aye saw that here mate,but i have my doubts would we want another player away for ANC
Only if we skip Ba it would make sense.
Can’t wait for The game to start!
Hope to see barfa and Cabaye:-)
Danes are enjoying The euros right now:-)
Black Bartoon – Do you really believe that?
Jelavic did brilliant at Everton last season but Cisse was emmense for us like and had alot more adapting to do.
So what order would you put Ba, Cisse and the lad N’Doye who we have been linked with as well?
Danish – I think if we loose Ba I would sooner replace him with a player who wouldn’t be away at all!
Maybe someone like Luuk De Jong, Das Boot or Afallay … or we could buy them all and not give Pardew a new contract!!!
Afternoon all . Re Pards ,maybe he just needs a few more bonus incentives added on, as now we are in Europe there’s the extra work involved for preparing for those games .We have to remember we wern’t anywhere near europe when he signed, It may even be that his contract included a pay review should we make Europe.
Toon chicken @4 & CC@5 -Carra is a Everton fan so he’s always gonna big up the jelly man.
Hopeing England put in a performance today ,Will be glad to see the game through to be honest as the lads been fitting lots today
Been to g.p and had him looked at ,seems brighter now. Every time England are in a big tournament he gets ill ,it’s weird . 
Ice ,that vid is hillarious ,super stuff
SHARPY we cannot call you greedy can we
KIM your welcome,you ironed that top yet?
Ice, He’s got his England shirt on ,not had the new one yet.
Hey Kim – sorry to hear ya boys having a bad day, hope he’s ok and over the worst.
What do reckon of our chances today?
KIM that toonsy always slow well so his mrs says
Sharpy,Honestly ,I ain’t got a clue ,just hope we give it a right good go really.
The lad seems bit brighter ,hopefully it’ll last, thanks for asking .
Ice,No comment ,never come between a man and his mrs .
Juventus winger Eljero Elia has been granted a transfer after he asked to leave,only been there one season toon looked at him before he went there
KIM very wise,the mrs always wins anyway
Ice
We can’t be getting him, Affeley and Giroud
I reckon Obertan would do well in Italy, you reckon we should offer 3m and Obertan for Elia?
Bloody hell Carra has settled into Liverpool defender turned TV pundit well hasnt he … just turned on Roy Hodgson saying he didn’t go down well coz he drilled the players too hard and they didn’t like it!! … Poor bairns didn’t like training
Ice – I only mentioned those 3 so I didn’t come across greedy!! Had another 4-5 in mind but they’ll do for starters I suppose
Sharpy
Who’s Carra?
Andy – I wrote Carragher as in Jamie who is on ITV, née idea why my phone decided to miss off the ‘gher’ … his voice is seriously fucking grating on me!! and he’s full of shit
ANDY i would go for that mate
they are asking 6mil
SHARPY all the “old”guard at l/pool think there gods gift to footy dee my heed in
Ice
Ok
Why the inverted commas around ‘old’? They are all has/never-was beens.
The match today is going to be intense!
I usually support England, but i really like this french side.
Has the France team been officially announced yet?
Andy @71 yeh ,no HBA in starting line up.
Have we wrote Obertan off now? Genuine question – I didn’t see much to get excited about from him last season. Good game against Stoke away but that was about it.
Do you reckon we should give him another go or cut our losses for someone like Elia?
France 2-0 I think today
I hate the French national anthem ,it’s crap ,worse than ours. Italy has a brilliant national anthem ,makes you jig along
Here we go then lads ‘n’ lasses . will it be
or 
Be interesting to see Debuchy against AOC, not seen much of Debuchy playing live and Oxlade should run him hard
Sharpy @76 -you read my mind
Anyone got a decent stream? I’m in Belgium and their commentary is toss
Toonsy – bet you it’s better than the scouse prick we’ve got!!!
Sharpy – Undoubtedly
milner ,what a miss
What a good ball through and a shit finish from a toon reject – née wonder we got rid
Milner is bang average. Oxtail Chambermaid is the same
Chamberlain loves to drift inwards.
And what a shot by cabaye.
Heres the stream for Toonsy. Hope you dont make the stream lag.
http://www.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lsheuro3.html
Rami looks a solid CB like and Debuchy has looked canny up to now as well
Our composure up front needs to be more clinical ,missing that little bit of guile that we’d of got from Rooney imo. Much as I hate to say it we are missing him.
,Defending o.k at moment ,though Hart looks a tad nervous to me.
GETT INN
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooo
Gwan lurch!
Nice set play…
Lescott you beauty
Debuchy is real quality. Ive always been a bit defensive of Simpson but if we have the chance of getting this kid we should get it done quick…..
FUCKING GET IN KRYTON HEED !!!!!!!!!
Got out of jail there like
What a save from Hart
Cabaye getting stuck in I see
FFS
Bollox !!!!!!
Beaten on the near post
FWIW, the American telecast announcers (who are actually British) are really singing the praises of Cabaye and Newcastle
Milner and Johnson are getting RAPED on that side…..
hart is shite
MDS only right mate
i can see us getting a hiding here
….and a mention of Newcastle from the Spanish commentator
Two man city players scored.hmmm.
ITV say we’ve been the better team
I heard of positive spin but come on….
The ref is giving England absolutely nowt today mind
Are the officials French?
Cabaye should’ve been booked by now as well…stupid French tw@t
Oxlade off Young out to the wing and AC on upfront, our best chance of a second is from a set piece and AC could nick a header
He’s been at Liverpool owa a year, he could probably “nick” anything by now
Toonsy ,Witters They will be under orders from UEFA you know how much Mr Platini & co love us . But yes, just said to my daughter ,we are getting feck all here from the ref. And I know Cabs is ours but he been persistantly fouling all game .
Agree but I’d take Milner off not oxlade
SHARPY that was going through my mind too
milner is his normal self shite,winger my arse
Sharpy ,I agree Judas needs to come on soon ,he’ll piss all over that french back four.
Or what they could do is bring the shortest player in the squad on?!
Ice , Andy Townsend been singing his praises , Villa connection kicking in ,they are so obviously biased it’s unreal.
Here’s Benny!!!
Henderson
Am hating this ref more and more
Well I would defo have taken the draw at the start and to be fair to England, for the ‘underdogs’ they played as well as they do when they are the favourites … I think that’s sort of a compliment
SHARPY fair comment my lad
I see Krul is saying that he wants to stay and doesn’t care if others are interested in him, Chelsea and Spurs are apparently gutted
Shocking match that! Both teams were shite. I saw a thing on tv recently about “walking football” for old men with heart conditions etc. well I think walking football was faster than most of that match. I was completely underwhelmed with that performance. Oxlade-Chamberlain was pretty good and hart made some canny saves. That’s about it really.
At least we didn’t lose….
Well…my opinion on matters is that…… Hart is an England quality ‘keeper, at least I thought that before the game, (although he was unsighted for the goal and Parker and midfielders allowed the French too much space around our box so he was unsighted) I still think he is much better than butterfingers Rob Green and Calamity James. Scott Parker was barely good enough for Newcastle and I don’t think he is an England player whatever Redknapp ect think. Likewise Milner. I would have liked to see Carroll get in the faces of the french. I didn’t think Welbeck would do much against them and I think I have been proven right.
Here in Holland Ad de Mos a well known dutch trainer was raving about England in the studio after the game . He must of been watching a diffrent game to me ,to say it was pedestrian is overrating the tempo of the game .
by the way happy birthday to wor BATTY today,you owld git
Ice your on the ball mate
Yeah happy 56th mate and there was me thinking he was only 49
DAVE you have the five and six the wrong way round
c@nts the both of yas
This Ukraine Sweden game is canny like. Most entertaining one I’ve watched so far…
I thought England looked OK. Definitely tired towards the end, but well organised. Not sure about Milner though, he seems his old self. Can’t knock him for commitment but I don’t actually think he’s that good.
We certainly ain’t out of the woods yet, judging by Ukraine v Sweden.
…oh, Happy Birthday Bats, you awld koont
Rod ,I was just gonna post the same ,really fast entertaining game ,France & England could come a cropper at the hands of these two.
Thought the England game was very slow and we lack a clinical finisher imo .Would like to of seen AC on to get in the faces of the French back four . I like Hart but he looked nervous today and I think the humidity got to all the players too.
Happy Birthday Batty
Big Birthday Boy Batty
DAVE aye batty drawing his OAP now or as he says a goverment gift
Ice his niece told me he has been out on the buses all day cause he got his bus pass
aswell as his gift.
Yeah Kim, it’s certainly lively!
I’d definitely play Carroll against Sweden too, we could do with his brute force, maybe at the expense of Wellbeck, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Young out wide with no Milner. I guess if it was my choice I’d probably play Carroll and Defoe, with young out wide, ‘resting’ Wellbeck and Milner. I’m sure Roy will have something up his sleeve anyway.
DAVE he will be un-screwing all the seats to pick up later,owt for a quid
Now that was a good game ,but can’t believe how exposed Ukraine were at the end Sweden really should of equalised .
Kim it was a funny old game
thanks kim
rod your in the same boat as the other 2 
Im all for this paying on performance.
I never thought it could work as I believed every club would have to adopt it but to be fair to the regime they have surprised us all over the past 12 months.
So to finish me point, aye, if Pards will accept a performance related contract then that’s always the way forward.
I thought Milner was poor.
Parker worked his bollocks off.
We defended well, looked organised and capable on the break but not enough individual skill.
But, that’s how the Germans win trophys.
…and how Greece won it in 2004 Troy. They managed to play the most boring anti-football, with very little attacking. The difference with them though was they didn’t really have the options. Maybe Roy has been watching their videos.
Toonsy, Just got back from Kent via Rugby, stopped off to meet up with some friends. Went to the Duncow at Dunchurch, whats going on at £3.55 a pint? Been told thats one of the cheaper pubs for beer, how do you cope??
Gutted, my Sky plus didnt work for the game, just had to watch 2nd half of the highlighs, not a bad result though
Simon – It’s expensive in Rugby mate. Not only because of Rugby School, but now there is the high speed rail link to London. You can get to Euston in 50mins on the train now which means it’s become a commuter town for London plus places like Birmingham, Manchester etc etc. Beer isn’t the only thing that is expensive. If I sold my house and moved back to Newcastle I could buy a five bedroom house in a decent area with the equivalent
On the plus side, it means that a lot of people are on “London wages” because if they weren’t paid then most would just commute and no business would survive as they would have no workforce so it’s all relative I guess
Mind you Dunchurch has always been pricey! Dick Turpin used to stop there in his heyday but I think his ghost lives on 
Plus you pay a premium for being near Guy Fawkes’ house apparently 
Ahh Guy Fawkes. I know him. The only man to go to parliament with honest intentions.
Aye Toonsy, nice place but don’t think I could afford to live there. Suppose with it being that close to London though, can understand it. Think I’ll just stay up in Shields and go back down visit friends, be cheaper in the long run
Simon I heard it was more expensive before Toonsy moved there, something to do with him lowering the value.
just had the best birthday pezzie ever of me missis and daughter signed toon top signed by alan and 21 1st team players
what about dekka and ashley Batty… they sign it as well
aussie
get in there Batts lad, nice one
dave ile get shan take a pic and put it on fb lata
Batts no probs mate, and if its signed with a marker let me know as I have stuff that removes it, then you’ll not be stuck with Ba’s, Tiotes names etc when they go in a month or so
Batty has the shirt got any white stripes left after all those bloody signatures in black texta
haha dave go on put me on a downer
aussie silver pen so plenty of white stripes left
Hand signed in silver by Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Gutierrez, Coloccini, Tiote, Obertan, Best, Marveaux, Krul, Simpson, Cabaye, R.Taylor, S.Taylor, Santon, Gosling, Shola Ameobi, Guthrie, Perch, Sammy Ameobi, Lovenkrands & Pardew. Adult size XXL
simon – divvent listen to Toonsy – Rugby is a shithole man
Batty, got a signed number 9 by Shearer hanging pride and place on one on my walls.. your a lucky bastard.. ask your missus where they can be sort mate
AUSSIE sort
Purchased, brought, stolen
aussie not telling ya
You sit alongside mike ashley in my estimations now Batty
Batts that is good mate, and I like the way they left Willo of it, now that is what I call using their head.
dave never noticed that
aussie mite tell u in a couple of days
No stress Batty can’t really afford the spare coin at moment.. I’m sure it is a fake anyway
Oz are playing Japan in a wc qualifier.. man u new boy Suzuki Kawasaki looks average. Can’t see where the 17m figure is coming from.. Cracking game all the same
yohan cabaye @YCabayeofficiel
Hope you good my twittos ??? Speak to you soon about something …
Let the rumour mill churn!
Comment vont mes twittos ?? Je reviens vite vers vous pour proposer quelque chose qui pourra peut être vous intéresser…
How are my twittos? I’ll be right back to you to suggest something that may be of interest to you …
he’ll be giving a way a shirt or something in a competition. He’s done it a few times before
Apparently he’s been selling fake “signed by the 1st team” Toon tops on on ebay
hahaha rich fck off
Batty…Happy Birthday
….I got one signed off Shearer for my 40th…..cough cough erm, I mean I’ll be getting one when I reach 40 
Cracking pressie that batty, I got a framed shearer one a few years back
thanks lads
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