Pardew preparing for pre-season
The Manager of the Year has taken time out over the summer to enjoy some time with his family, and why not after such a successful season last time out and with the possibility of another big one this time round?
Personally I can’t wait for the start of pre-season either. It’s pretty dire on the news front to be truthful so once everyone gets back to work we might start seeing things moving along a bit, and there is still a lot that needs sorting this summer!
We have the whole saga with Demba Ba to get sorted one way or the other, our right-back conundrum with strong interest in Mathieu Debuchy being rumoured, a bid for a Dutch international midfielder that may or may not be revisited, plus now a firm interest in FC Twente striker Luuk de Jong. There is also the small issue of trying to keep our key players together ready for an assault on Europe.
Things are bubbling away underneath the surface and all it takes is one thing to happen to start a domino effect so that the others start to fall into place. Yes it’s quiet right now, which is less than handy for a blog writer I’m sure you’ll understand, but I very much doubt that will be the case come the end of the summer.
We need this squad strengthened, especially when you look at the numbers of players who are leaving us over the close season. Danny Guthrie is off and it looks like Leon Best may follow along with a few other inconsequential players like Alan Smith and perhaps Nile Ranger and Fraser Forster – not first choice by any stretch of the imagination but still a reduction in numbers that will, hopefully, be sorted by the time the big kick-off comes around.
So Alan Pardew isn’t the only one looking forward to pre-season by any stretch of the imagination. So are we!!!
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The new season cant come soon enough, am now forced to look forward to the pre-season games which should be more interesting than last summers faff.
It’s time for Sammy Shane Vuckic Abeid and even Remie to move to next level. Some of our squad left and leave room to them for next season.
Who know ? Maybe we don’t need some big signing as everyone concern.
Ginkoh – I can see that happening to an extent. I think Amalfitano will replace one squad player, say Guthrie, but we’ll promote a youth to replace say Smith. If they are good enough and all that
Tie Ba up on a longer contract, a new right back, and I think we’ll be ok… we don’t need a lot of change, just a bit of tinkering here and there…
Come on England !!
think it needs a bit more than tinkering we need at least 3/4 players plus marv,as i said before have fans forgot how we got stuffed by m/c,out classed by wigan out classed at everton who had little to play for we were trying for CL kna more than a tinker needed wake up
I reckon Abeid is being shaped up to fill the Smith role, though he needs to be more disaplined to staying back instead of sometimes randomly charging forward and shooting from 40 yards (though he sometimes scores from it
).
yes we have a few young players to come through but you cannot throw them straight into the PL imo
Ice
I reckon that S.Taylor may be the key, if he can stay fit through-out the season and the strikers do what they do then we have a genuine chance at achieving a solid CL place.
I think Ba has been assessed as a player who needs to cover his own career first and foremost, hence the Cisse purchase, Ba’s slight sidelining, and pursuit of De Jong. Can’t blame Ba, his peculiar situation mans he must cover his career, it may be unexpectedly short. Thanks, anyway Demba.
I think the likes of sammy, vuckic and so on have only this season to show they can step up. The new approach seems to be geared to moving the non-starters on quickly while there’s still profit to be gained. It’s a good incentive too, good that we aren’t going to have perennial reservists draining cash and resources imo.
Santon to RB and Ferguson as LB, I’m sucking on that tit
I reckon we have no chance of getting a CL place. All the “big clubs” who finished behind us last season will strengthen in the summer, Liverpool, Chelsea, and we’ll end up slogging it out for place 4 – 7, which isn’t too bad imo…
Icedog, the bairns will come through and Sammy Ameobi will replace Andy Carroll as England’s main central striker…
Liverpool??? Don’t talk shite MM you whore
I just hope Marv can stay fit… seems to have a touch of class about him…Vuckic showed signs but is injury prone… feck me he hurt his bloody hand in one game after 5 mins.. if we can stay fit we should be good..
Jay, are you sure it is a tit that you are sucking on
Jay Jay you old tartlet, we all need to live with the fact that Liverpool are a “big club” man…
Marv and big Sammy will be the plusses next season, you heard it here first. We just need tinkering, and we have a few tinkers at the club, so we should be all right…
p.s. Come on England !!
MM don’t get your hopes up mate, it is the English football team you are supporting
AMF I hope so mate
MM a big club does not mean a good team
Im not sure on the dippers, They have been given a tough start with thier first 3 homematches being again last seasons top 3 and the dollars all spunked up the wall by kenneth.
The squad is shite and overpaid, Carraghers finished, Suarez is a horrible little cunt who the refs are watching like a hawk, Mandy doesnt fit in with the swansea style, Gerrard is a year older and not as influential, The manager is too young and will be out of his depth IMHO but apart from that everything is fine…
Come on Germany
CC you forgot to mention how great Downing and Henderson are
Liverpool remind me of our team before we got relegated.. big wages, low effort, a mish mash of has beens and average squad players..
Aye exactly there are so many reasons why liverpool are shite you cant remember them all, Id add Charlie Adam as well what a wank player…
I think that Abeid, Amalfitano, Vuckic ect, they will be expected to step up this season so maybe we arn’t replacing Smith and Guthrie except for with these younger players. The likes of Donaldson, Airey, Folan and Henderson leaving shows that we haven’t developed our own player for ages. Only Krul, Ferguson and Sammy Ameobi are yet to become regulars.
CC reading between the lines, I get the feeling that you don’t like Liverpool even though they are a “big club”…
Jay Jay @21
Looking pretty good at the moment the Jaarmans…
I think that we are being run in the right way at last though. When I saw the ‘Owen to Stoke’ think and that it was ’30 miles from his stables’ I thought, they are a club that have had a few seasons in the prem, got some money and could make the mistakes we made. They could think, we will sign owen and our fans will have an Owen shirt, when he would play about 10 games and cost them £2M per goal. We don’t seem to be going for these ‘big names’ anymore we have learnt from our mistakes and teams like Stoke, Norwich, QPR ect. are still learning. For them it is a dig deal for there fans to sign ‘big name’ players.
Am glad wor Cabaye is back in his pad in Elswick so he can get some rest before the new season starts…
Come on England !!
Thing about Liverpool’s fuck up in the transfer market that I live is we can compare moves financially i.e. for what Liverpool payed for Charlie Adam we were able to get Tiote and Cabaye for, for what Liverpool payed for no goal no assist Downing we got all of last season’s players for
.
CC @20
Gerrard has been awesome for England though, all the assists have pretty much been from him, just shows he doesn’t give a toss about Liverpool anymore IMHO, he knows he can’t carry them on his back anymore.
DJG
) wondering how the hell werent they able to do that for them? Of course they’ll blame everything/one accept the players or Kenny.
Aye, his partnership with Caroll for England has been great, Liverpool fans must be scratching their heads(whislt stealing the wheels of a car
Liverpool and fulham to finish in the bottom half this season, the star on sunday say Liverpool may sell £20m rated defender Skrtel
Jay Jay
If Skrtel is rated at £20m than Colo must be at least £38m
munich
I dont doubt they are a big club with a fantastic history but that has gone and their club in its current state whether they like it or not are on a similar level to us, Everton, Villa, Fulham and possibly even the mackems in aiming for the top half and on a great season nicking a european spot or a cup final…
Who is gonna give them £20M for Skrtel.
Skrtel is just plain average, £20m is a joke
I think Rodgers will be out of his depth tbh.
Liverpool will sell Skrtel to themselves for a small sum of 20m.. cash up front..
I think Liverpool are out of their depth
£20m for Skrtel, They better hope kenny gets back in work hed probably offer them 30…
I mean that (liverpool) is a big job that needs someone with a lot of experience and has been around the block and is savvy in the transfer market ect. If I were a Liverpool fan I would want someone like ‘Arry not Brendan Rodgers or AVB ect.
I agree with Icedog @ 5.
Rodgers has always managed teams that are grafters.. it will be intetesting to see how he handles the bigger personalities in the team.. I think he will struggle too..
I agree with Bris
…and I agree with everyone who says Skrtel is average or worse and that Rodgers will struggle.
BRISVEGAS@43 thats because you have your heed on proper and your eyes open
even pardew says he wants four or five players,or maybe he doesnt kna what hes talking aboot,some lads on here will put him right
I agree with Aussie…
Ice @ 5
Very harsh imo
City were champions
Wigan turned over a fair few good teams in their late season run
Everton always end the season in style, their comeback against Man Utd astonishing for a team with “nothing to play for” against a team with everything to play for.
@MM @ 4
Add another CB and replacement for Best if he goes to that and i’d be delighted with the summer.
I don’t see why it is too soon for some of the young players to step up, it’s not like we are throwing them in at the deep end in the first team, it’s as worthy members of the squad.
Last year some of our best performers/improvements to the team came from within. Krul and arguably Saylor came of age (seeing as there was much Willo vs Saylor debate this time a year ago) and HBA was effectively a new signing.
I’m going to have a punt on Marv being a decent challenger for LW and Abeid and Vuckic to this year come of age and be able to assert themselves as reliable back ups as Guthrie did last year.
SolanosTrumpet I’ll be sorry to see Best go, cos he’s been a canny servant for the toon and he knows where the goal is…
Don’t you think that Saylor will claim the centre half spot next year, with shaky Mike to back him up ?
Come on England !!
Icedog @5 at the end of the day anyone can beat anyone in the Prem, fortunately we have a few players who can win games with a piece of magic from nothing, HBA, Cisse, Cabaye, Ba if he stays…
and that made the difference for the toon last year, plus the fact that we were underestimated by a lot of clubs last year. That won’t happen this season, wor card has been marked…
Yeah I’m a fan of him, would be more than happy if he stayed. Unfortunately he may be thinking along the same lines as Guthrie and leave in search of 1st team action.
Just think we need another reliable CB back up as I don’t like Perch playing there. Saylor showed at the start of the season that alongside Colo he can be fantastic though.
If you are good enough, you are old enough… these young guys just need to step up…
ST open your eyes man we were going for CL we were not beaten we were out-classed,dont mind getting beat but out classed??if your happy with that plough on matey
Aye Munich, my sights are set lower this season.
If our squad stays as it is (not counting the confirmed leavers Smith/Loven/Guthrie).
And we just sign one CB.
I’d be happy with 55 points, a good domestic cup run, and to be returning from the Amsterdam ArenA next May with the Europa cup glistening
ganning in the garden to breath some real air
Your fired Ice
all things good with you 
@Ice yeah we were going for CL, Man Utd were going for the title! These results happen.
You said “more than a tinker needed”, need to get a grip man. Few bad results and you’re asking for a bloody overhaul!
*Your fired up * feckin keyboard
Outclassed? By who?
It seems we all have a few impatient fans amongst our ranks… Consolidate our top 8 finish next season and I will be happy. Need to prove we’re no flash in the pan.
Oh yeah, and get Debuchy and De Jong in! Would take us to the next level
Still*
I just wanna see our defence shored up and then an additional striker is needed. Also I would like to see another good keeper added as cover for Krul as we will be lost if owt happens to him imo.
The Kid @63, couldn’t agree more…
KIM your reet pet its needed ,and yes elliot is the only bad buy pardew has made imo seen him play a few times before he came to toon will never be PL class ime afraid
With france out
Go England!!!
Ice ,would love to get Al Habisi in though doubt he’d wanna be back up.
aye canny back up keeper that,but your right,he would want to play
What do we reckon on tonights game then
Think it might be a very long and stressfull evening and can see extra time too.
C’MON ENGLAND
more and more storeys about BA going over to turkey,think there might be something in this one
ICE, he could play in alternate games like a job share
Ice ,yeh ,he looks a goner for sure otherwise what’s the point in having talks with them. No point trying to hang on to him .Shame, he’s been brilliant for us apart from very end of season and even then was working his socks off .
Lets get it on, it can’t start soon enough.
need a tinker ???? we needed that last season and the way things look we’ll be short of another 4-5 players by the time the season starts 
So how does anyone work out that probably after loosing Guthrie, Best, Lovens, Foster,Smith we still only need tinkering 
Ice @ 5 I agree 100%
Teams like Manure and Citeh could maybe get away with a tinker but they will strenghten for sure as will Arse, Liverpool, Chelski etc
KIM theres always the fear that his knee could go in the back of your mind,maybe thats why jabba wont increase his contract terms,they must be going to sign him a bit like we did because he cannot pass a medical
DAVE of coarse your reet,everyone has a view and i respect that,but sometimes i wonder if some know what a football looks like never mind ever kicking one!,get young de de on sure he would have more idea
@Dave
Smith, Foster and Loven must have started 5 games between them, you can’t count them as losses to the squad!
Guthrie’s replacement has been brought in.
Best hasn’t even left yet?!
CB aside our squad isn’t short of players at all. Quality is short in some areas, especially within back up positions, but in a lot of ways these are the positions hardest to fill as we don’t want to lumber ourselves with players not much better than what we have but we also don’t want proven players on high wages on the bench.
Agree Dave
We have a few leaving who need replacing and hopefully with better quality to add to the depth of the squad. I’ll be happy with top 8 also but “tinkering” ain’t gonna do it, most other clubs in the top half and many in the bottom will be doing more than “tinkering”
Ice…To be fair to Ba, and as I said the other day the lad doesn’t know how long he’s got left playing with his knee so you can’t blame him for chasing the money…..thats what 99% of players do anyway, but if he’s after a big money move then tell Pards and get it done and let Pards plan for him going.
RICHIE spot on mate on both accounts, thats rare for you
Ice…must be the beer talking for me
RICHIE kna cannot be the beer,maybe aussie has kept you right
Ice..now I think the beers talking for you, Aussie couldn’t keep the opposite of left, right
ST it doesn’t matter howmany games they played if they were in the squad and are no longer in it they need replaced no ?
Yeah Best hasn’t left yet but as I said If and it looks likely he’ll need replaced, so going by you we should be ok with Shola as the man to score the goals when Cisse is away and Ba if he’s still here.
As for we don’t want proven players on the bench ? so would you prefer non proven player because they are cheaper,
I don’t think Jabba needs any fans to look after his money as im sure he’ll make a good job of it himself.
I forgot to add Harper to the list aswell
I have no fear
…or height
RICHIE spot on again
gone quiet on that swedish lad,might be sumit in it then
Ice…Aye, who was it that mentioned it, was it DanishT?
It seems as if some fans are happy enough to see us not strengthen, while 90% of the other teams will strengthen, so That to me would say that they’ll get better and at best we will struggle to remain as we were but in all likely hoods we’ll fall behind the rest..
I as a supporter want to see us build on what we have and get better each season not just stagnate then fall away
Girth is more important than length richie
Jay @ 86 of falling over
I guess that’s a good thing about a low center of gravity 
Richie your well on the ball today
Dave…it’s a good job Pards knows what we need…….whether he gets it though is a different story
@Dave
Obviously I would love for us to have a world class bench. But I just can’t see us stumping up huge wages for players that aren’t going to be first choice.
If you actually list our squad we are fairly well stocked in most areas, it’s just lack of quality, you can’t just bring in players on top of though constantly though. Look at spurs, they have people like jenas that are 6th choice or whatever on 50k a week. No way that’s going to happen here.
Also I think people need to consider that it is going to be very hard to retain a place in Europe for a following season, I think we’ll put up a good fight, but there’s four teams fighting for 5th place. We don’t want to inflate our squad to such an extent that should we fail to make Europe we’re in the shit.
Is that why ya go for the fat munters Jay, love the girth?
RICHIE is red hot the day
aye think it was DT that first threw the name in,getting nee credit for it like
Never had a fat munter, got my street cred to think about, I’d lose all my legendary poise and sophistication
Ice…we’ll claim it then
Jay…Very true
Feckin hell, still over 3 hours ’til the match
ST if we don’t strengthen we have no hope of Europe I just can’t understand how fan’s are happy enough to accept that and accept defeat because they don’t want Jabba throwing his pennies about.
And if we don’t make Europe there is a big chance that Cisse, Cabaye, Benny etc will not want to stick around so it would same that some fans that don’t want us to buy good players to progress would be happy enough for that to happen.
Even our players have said that we need to build on what we have, and as it is we have weakened ourselves in numbers atleast
reet dinners calling
RICHIE think we better before that aussie lays claim to it
DAVE enjoy mate dont forget to throw richie a bone or two
Ice…we’ll be safe enough, if it happened it would take at least 2 days for it to register with Aussie
Dave@104.. that’s what happens when ya give a pot noodle ya mobile number
easy on the bread and butter big dave
No news about The swedish lad..
But a russian club have just made a bid for N’Doye who Is claimed to be one of our targets.
The bid was 4 mill £
@Dave
I think we just differ on what we would see as strengthening. I would be happy if the rest of the squad remained intact and we signed a decent CB, possibly a RB/LB if Simmo still refuses to sign up.
Anything else and I would obviously be delighted. But i’m just as excited to see if we can continue as we did last year, and get some significant developments from the players we already have on the books. If any of Fergie/Abeid/Vuckic/Gosling/Sameobi/(Ranger
) can improve as much as Raylor/Perch/Guthrie did then we will have a few more genuinely reliable squad players .
DT pleased we are not going for n!doyle that would be another away at ANC
He is worth the money, but it is not a clever transfer… As you pointed out
I think that we are stronger going into this season than last. We have Cisse, & Santon new, and Marv available. HBA has improved immeasurably and so have others.. In terms of our starting 11 only simpson appears to be leaving and that is not certain. As to the bench only Guthrie has gone and He has already been replaced. So the idea that we need to strengthen further because others will is IMHO flawed. Personally I feel that there is scope to improve the starting 11, Anita or Iborra could come in for Jonas at DM alongside Tiote, and we could definitely strengthen the squad especially in defence. Furthermore a striker to cover the ACON would help. Who out of our starting 11 would people like to replace and with whom??
SolanosTrumpet keep those nay sayers right mate… We need the bairns to step up this year and fill the voids in the squad. A couple of good defenders and a new striker perhaps and we’re in good shape….
As much as I love Jonas (and that I do
) I think he will be the one to suffer from the change to the 433 system. He won’t be able to play the LW spot as its to advanced and he isn’t strong enough in front of goal, he isn’t strong enough defensively to play LB (and we have Santon there anyway) and he won’t be able to hold down the CDM role next to Tiote. The only way that I can see his services being used effectively is when the team looks like this (I’ve replaced Simmo with Debuchy cus I think it fits better and I’ve kept Ba for arguments sake)
Opinions?
—————————Krul————————–
-Debuchy—-S.Taylor—-Coloccini—-Santon-
—————————Tiote————————-
—–Cabaye————————–Gutierrez—–
————————-Ben Arfa———————-
——————-Cisse———-Ba——————
This system allows for crosses to come in whilst the midfield can support the defence, Debuchy/Santon is able to overlap the midfielder when attacking, HBA is in a more free role and Ba will be able to get more goals alongside Cisse so that the goals will be more evenly spread out, reducing frustration.
Guys I have a problem, I want to buy my dad tickets for the Newcastle v Tottenham game (1st game of season) for his Birthday (Aug 3), but I’m thinking that the general ticket sales wont be till after his birthday, can someone confirm this/suggest what I could do?
Andymag, I agree that playing with 1 defensive midfielderallows three attacking midfielders and 2 strikers, and I can see that happening on occassion. The only change to your line up is Cabaye centrally with HBA on the right. Also I feel that with Marv being a natural left footed wide midfielder he will cosolidate his place this season. I expect that we will play with 2 CDM and 1 striker especially away.
.
Andy mag, tickets usually go on sale 2 weeks before a match, to have more chance of getting tickets you could buy a membership so you can buy before general sale or if you know a season ticket holder ask them to get tickets for you.
Premandup
I don’t think switching Cabaye and Ben Arfa wouldn’t work effectively, Cabaye is stronger at holding the midfield defensively and can spread passes a lot better, this allows Hatem to get forward more, when he would be restricted to such from the rm/rcm role. Also I think Marv will get alot of sub appearances/cup games but I don’t think he’ll overtakes Jonas’ place.
Jay Jay
I have a login thingy on the nufc site is that the same thing as a membership? I don’t know any season ticket holders
No mate, a membership costs £25 i think and they send you a pack with some goodies and vouchers, which is usually 6 months late
Jay Jay
, sh;t what am I gunna do? Spose I could give him an ‘I owe you two tickets to see NUFC v Spurs’ card 
I’m not that then
Wait, what day is the match?
Andy sat aug 18th mate.
Not a problem then I won’t be able to go
I’ll be off with the rest of my year on our ‘sixth year(last year of school) weekend(actually thursday-saturday)’. 
You will still have a membership, it’s just that the membership pack is always late, won’t effect you getting tickets
Right, need another idea for a present
Andy ,why not get him a ticket for Villa home on sat 1st sept ,at least you can guarantee him a win .
I agree with Premandup that we should play Marveaux at left midfield – and I would play Jonas at right back.
Kim
Lol tis true, though I’d be best going for a home game on a Sunday(work on Saturdays).
I van see spurs and villa games being sundays, we have europa league midweek
Jay…Villa probably will be but we don’t start the Europa campaign until after the Spurs game
Jay I love the way you had to get the season ticket holder bit in you fuking gimp, I bet you were busting for him to ask do you know any
Andy ask Troy he’s a ST holder
Andy….you’ll never have a problem getting tickets for a home game, no membership required
Thats it Richie you keep the poisonous dwarf right
thought we had a qualifier before that
Kim @ 129 I will maybe have to miss that as its my 25th anniversary and were renewing our vows
Dave
Jay…22 or more likely 23 is the first game
Dave…You auld romantic you
DAVE dont tell me your mrs is giveing you a second chance
con gats mate
RICHIE dave was late starter didnt tie the knot until his 60th birthday
Ice
Ice and Rich TBH I don’t see the point in renewing something that isn’t broken but she insists that because I was bladdered the 1st time round that we should do it again so it will keep her happy
for the next 25 yrs 
im hoping the game is re scheduled for sky till the sun then I wont miss it
Dave…The things you have to do for an easy life, pity ya can’t get bladdered for this one
Dave…The Villa one probably will be the Sunday with the Euro game that week, there was nae match on my wedding day last year , home or away
Richie if I still drank I probably would get bladdered
and if it is changed till Sun that will be cool
Dave…I can’t see it not being changed, I’ll get bladdered for ya mate
Nerves kicking in for the match now like
@ 151 yeah lets get it on, I hope England can do it. I see they have all learnt the Queen
Dave…Aye, time to crack another can open
Hope England wins this but boy do I hate john terry
Buffon is only 34
I thought he was a lot older than that
Dave… Aye he seems to have been around forever.
MDS….nowt wrong with hating JT
fuk that was some shot
Jesus we just got REALLY lucky there
Johnson the fuking dummy
Bloody hell Milner ,it’s a lively start lads
Would have been the goal of the tournament by miles.
Wow that was close
Kim don’t forget to get your pic up again for Ice later
Dave@139 you old romantic you
@162.Damn ,you know i’ve only gone and lost it
Kim well if you’ve lost it theres nowt you can do
, its Ices own fault for not being on that night 
As for 139 yeah 25 yrs legally or 28yrs all together
England are playing decent so far
There’s already been more action than I expected for the entire match. Roy has england playing well
Dave ,I managed 12 years married but 16 together befor we split so well done mate , congrats.
I would like to see AC on later on ,reckon he’ll terrify that Italian back line.
Kim maybe its because we’re like ships in the night
As for Carroll I think he would cause them all sorts of bother, the same as I thought Walcot should have started ahead of Milner. Now Johnson I really don’t know how he gets picked for England or the Dippers I think he’s shite
Dave ,he needs to change his boots I know that much
Feck sake ,should of done much better there
Well done Big Dave, managed to keep quiet about the regular visits to whores in tigers bay then?
Well done joe
We really should of scored when we had that spell early doors ,you just know if they score they’ll just sit back and defend all night .
Jay the one Lass I have is enough for me
Tigers bay millies 
I wouldn’t even take you there, unless it was to kick you outta the car and tell them your a celtic fan 
Kim Mario should have scored at least twice
so maybe it’s Englands night, but I can see them scoring but can’t really see England unless they change. I could see Carroll scoring and being the saviour
Dave ,yeh cause we are getting crosses in ,set up for AC really ,don’t think they could handle him.
Man our finishing has been gash so far…why didn’t Welbeck just welly that one in instead of side footing it…?
not a bad 1st half
I would just calmly walk to duncairn gardens, no fear mate
MM I think Carroll offers England a lot more than welbeck
Regarding next season, Sammy could really develop to be a decent attacker across the front 3. His height, pace, and dribbling could be lethal, just needs a little maturity in how to handle situations.
Vuckic looks like he could fill in one of those attacking roles, but seems to prefer to play as an attacking midfielder, spraying around passes and being support.
I really can’t nail down Abeid yet. The lad’s got plenty of ability and potential, but I don’t know if he’s better on the wings or in the center. He definitely likes getting forward, and could be a wildcats for us to bring on this year.
Ferguson has apparent talent. The question is whether he should be used as a winger or fullback.
Marveaux is definitely gonna come good. I really don’t know avout Gosling though. Doesn’t seem to know what to do half the time. I guess the same could be said about Obertan. Although I would really like to see how he would do on the left wing, cutting in with his ball skills and lightning pace
What a miss
Big D all three Mancs up front are just strolling through the game. Rooney looks unfit if you ask me. Hoy Carroll on, cross from Gerard, header boom 1-0 watch out Germany…it’s just a matter of time
AndrewT, the good thing about the three bairns you just mentioned is that they can all play differing positions… If one of them makes the FULL breakthrough this season it will be brilliant. I reckon Abeid is perhaps still 1 year behind those lads…
You know what ,I think lady luck may just be with us here
fuk England hace been real lucky so far but is their luck going to hold up ?
get that milner and welbeck off or we are fooked imo,got to change this game
Ice 100% agree
Andrew I had high hopes for Sammi and Vuckic but I think they need loaned out to a champ side for some regular footie otherwise I think they’ll just fade away, like we have been saying the samething about Vuckic for the last few seasons.
Carroll will give them a rough time as will Walcot
Ice AC and Walcott I think
Ice as I said earlier Carroll and Walcot should have been in instead of them 2
agree
england have just stopped going with runners
AC just needs some decent balls in and sure he’ll score.
is rooney playing or hideing ffs
Ice Rooney is really poor tonight ,looks unfit to me.
since that f/b has thumped young a couple of times he just wont run at him anymore
Woy looks frustrated mind
Cramp already
England and Co rely too much on Shrek, they all think he is their saviour
Young should be took off throw Chamberlain on
DAVE maybe his hair is getting in his eyes noo
Same old England can’t keep hold of the ball ,lots of huffing and puffing ,need a moment of brilliance from someone.
well done Johnson
italy look a lot fitter to me
Feckin come on lads!
Woy knows that England are technically gash, and cannot keep the ball. Our one creative meidfielder Gerrard is knackered…. Still, we are in with a chance, as long as we have Schreck and the gypsy up front…
Henderson coming on
game so stretched now
…Like a pair of Toonsy’s 44″ jeans
Richie
Kim…I’m trying to be kind by saying they’re just 44″
Man Henderson is ugly….
MM…Tbf that’s not his fault, his mam is his dad’s sister
MM ,you know the footies dire when you start talking about players looks
Diving bastards ,never change .
No harm to you’s but I hope it goes to pens
as I like a good old penalty shoot out like 
OFFSIDE ,theres lady luck again
Lol. How many heart attacks in England right there…
Right call
Hart was close there,
well done stevie
Cole tried to be too fancy
feckin pens again, wu shit at them…..Italians deserved it like
agree richie 100%
That was fair tbh, oh well ,but why Young and Cole befor AC
.
The Germans will be well pleased at that ,extra day of rest and them playing extra time too. Wanna see a Germany v Spain final now.
Kim…aye they were my 2 tips at the start so heres hoping…..at least the Germans didn’t knock us out of this one
Boring, no imagination, sloppy on the ball. Nothing ever changes
Reet, I’m away to inflict pain on the playstation…it gives the cat a break
Jon R….Ya could be describing my ex wife there
Richie
Bless Roy ,he’s right about team spirit but he must know that England ain’t got a cat in hells chance of ever winning a tournament untill we start coaching our up and coming kids the techniques required for this level .
Well we were beaten by the better team
, on another note why is there an ad for Man U’s fixture list at th top of the page 
Saying we were “a different England” is a load of nonsense though. We were shite in every single match
Think I just read the shortest article ever, still a load of shite all three sentences of it
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2164113/Danny-Rose-wanted-West-Brom-Newcastle.html
There is no chance of Spurs loaning their players to us, we don’t need a loan and we’re looking at better.
Andy ,It’s the Daily Fail so we can discount it .
Kim
true
well I’m off, got a hard day of school tomoz
Sorry Lads!
Poor performance if i should be honest:-(
Denmark, france and England out of The euros.. No point for mé to watch The last games.
Looking forward to pre season now!!!!!
Danish ,no need to apologise mate we was crap going forward ,though thought our defence was good .
Best 4 team,s have progressed tbh.
Right I’m off ,laters .
Kimtoon:
Yeah, but you still rule The waves;-)
And we still wear horny hats..
Speaking with an unbias opinion, England were the most boring and technically deficient team in the competition.
They were out passed by Ukraine, Sweden and France.
I’ll give them credit or excellent defending. But a footballing country like England shouldnt have to resort to winning with Greece like play.
I could understand if they were minnows…
Germany would have murdered them. Spain would have prevented them from even touching the ball…
The best four teams are now in the semis… All on merit.
I had no confidence in Young scoring the penalty, he was crap for the whole tournament. Also is Rooney the most over-rated England player of all time? Old man Pirlo bossed the midfield and the game.
bad luck England, I never thought in my wildest dreams that you would be knocked out of a football competition via a penalty shoot out loss, my heart goes out to you …….. really it does……..really…….
JJ, you could scarcely be more wrong.
1. Fanatical adherence to a particular style of football is no more unbiased than a one-eyed belief in a particular team.
2. You’re over-stating the technical deficiency. Ireland are clearly a worse team, and there were other arguable cases.
3. Sweden’s 497 to 493 superiority in passing was not much to write home about – particularly as the lead was driven by a 63 to 56 lead in long passes.
4. England’s defending isn’t actually that good. They conceded the second-highest shots per game (just after Ireland) A vulnerability in set-piece situations was quite apparent in the game against Sweden.
5. You rate England as the least technically gifted side: why are you complaining about them not trying to play like the more skilled sides?
6. You rate England well outside of the favourites: why are you complaining about them not playing like the favourites?
7. Imagined results may be whatever one wishes. But try to recall November, April and May before translating possession into victory.
icedog says:
June 24, 2012 at 16:31
RICHIE think we better before that aussie lays claim to it
richietoon says:
June 24, 2012 at 16:34
Ice…we’ll be safe enough, if it happened it would take at least 2 days for it to register with Aussie
I thought we used to be friends
Wellington
You are making poor statements.
What I was simply saying is that for a country as fanatical about football as England, with a massive population and perhaps the mist popular league in the world. They really should be performing at a much higher standard and playing a far better technical style of football.
To compare them to Ireland is a joke. The two countries are on different scales in terms of potential. Ireland did well to qualify.
JJ – if it’s a joke to compare England to Ireland, you should be talking to the guy at 244. He was the one that suggested Ireland are the technically better team!
And my main point, regarding your style bias, stands. You are essentially promoting the idea that Chelsea should emulate Barcelona and Bayern Munich.
Aussie@246…thanks, I was feeling a bit down but that message of condolence that came straight from the heart has made me feel so much better
…..and @248 Ice made me do it 
Wellington
My statement that I am unbias was purely political because I’m South African.
In truth, despite my English heritage, I can’t stand and English International sports team
, so yes I’m not really unbias… 
I did find it funny however, how the English journalists were accussing Spain of being boring to watch, when they play remarkable football (IMO) to watch.
I stand my the rest of my statement. England (whether by a couple passes) were out passes by Ukraine, France, Sweden and Italy.
They may have conceded the most chances, but chances and goals are two very different things. And so, their defence was impressive, considering how their midfield was so bossed during the tournament.
Bit rich when from my point of view, England can sometimes make Greece look like Barcelona.
The truth is and has been for a while now is that we have so many overseas players in the PL that we are left with few really good English players to choose from. It’s the same with the Scotland team as well ,just think back to the years befor the PL I can remember great English and Scottish players. The reason the PL is so watched and admired is because of the overseas talent on display if we are being honest ,just look at Toon ,our outstanding players are Cisse, HBA, Tiote, Colo, Cabaye, Ba ,. Most teams are the same in that there flair players are not British. We have a fundemental problem at youth level as we seem to coach any individual flair out of youngsters less they seem to be too selfish in play! when the truth is these types of players turn a match and win you games.
When a flair player does break through such as Gazza we overhype them and put them under immense pressure to the point they crack such is our lack of these players. Truth is we need to emmulate the Spanish way of coaching youth and plough more money into coaching at youth level at lower league clubs. Ian Holloway wrote an article in the Sunday Mirror on this very subject ,suggesting we use PL t.v money to that end and it was a good article ,reccomended reading .
Kimtoon
Joe Cole, was one of the most talented players I’ve seen. He went to Chelsea and got pushed out of the team by better overseas players.
As such he never developed into anything close to what he could have been had he got regular football.
It is a shame.
Kim you are right on the over-hyping. Players like Rooney are made to think they are better than they are. Rooney is a great Premier League player but not imo international class. Look at his record in internationals. Yet he is an automatic choice. As for Young, how did he continue to get picked after the first game? Milner performed better yet was withdrawn.
Maybe we as fans are also to blame. We criticise players like Enrique and Colo when they try to play football out of defence. Same with Benny when he loses the ball trying something different. In short we encourage hoof ball and kick and rush. Not all fans are guilty, of course.
The last world class player England had was David Beckham. He was an incredible player.
I think the next best was Paul Scholes. He was the closest thing England had to Xavi.
JJ, Exactly why should he of made way ,it’s not right.
Groucho@255 ,Rooney is the most overated England player ever and was woefull last night ,his legs were gone ,AC was dropping back laying balls off for him to run onto when it should of been the other way round tbh. How Defoe never got on I dont know ,what was the point in taking him ?. As for Rooney I have never seen him have a really good tournament . Also I am still puzzled why Young and Cole stepped up to take a pen befor AC ! very strange that. As soon as Young stepped up I knew he would miss it ,same with Cole.
JJ@258 Totally agree on Scholes ,wonderful player ,on Beckham he was a master of deadballs and had real presence . Much as I hate him I have to give JT credit and Stevie G also ,I thought they were both immense for us in the circumstances. Fact is I’m not blaming the players ,they are what they are and the spirit was there for all to see ,Roy did a brilliant job .But we are miles off Spanish ,Italian ,German and Dutch levels. The Dutch and French went out because of egos not skill imo.
Richie, I’m glad that message picked you up mate
A few days back when we were talking the finer art of football (bullshitting) I mentioned that the England / Italy game would end in penalties.. one day England will come out the right side of a shootout. 
In all seriousness England have a very talented ‘group’ of players… sadly no team…
Beckham was shite in my opinion… took a good free kick and could swing a cross but apart from that he was average.. Giggs leaves him for dead in regards to being a complete footballer… at least he can dribble with the ball.. Becks would have to be the most over rated plyer ever…
Gerrard is brilliant, but just too injury prone and has too many off games. On his day he is an incredible driving midfield dynamo.
I think Hart has potential to be a great. Ashley Cole is usually excellent too. There are some very good players. But they can’t play as a team because there are too many technical weaknesses.
If I picked the England Starting eleven, this is who I’d go with…
_____________________Hart_______________________
Kyle Walker______Terry________Rodwell_________A Cole
_________________Parker____Scholes_______________
____________________Wilshere_____________________
___S Gerrard_____________________Oxlaid-Chmberlain__
___________________Rooney________________________
Subs: GK? Defoe, Adam Johnson, Lescott, Welbeck, Lampard, Walcott
JJ ,no AC then
Aussie,
Beckham’s crossing was the best in the world, his passing was outstanding, he didn’t need to beat his man because he could find his strikers from anywhere.
He was incredible from set pieces. Had a good engine too.
I’d say during his time he was in the top three right sided attacking midfielders in the world.
Kimtoon,
Not in that team no… with Scholes, Wilshere, Gerrard, Rooney and Oxlaid- Chamerlain/Johnson, I’d have to believe there’s enough technique to pass the ball around the park, rendering Carroll redundant…
I might have him in the squad and shove him on against Spain…
JJ, if you call perching yourself on a wing a crossing it as soon as you get it, than yes, he was great.. not my type of footballer.. he never tried to beat a man because he couldn’t. not saying your opinion is wrong mat but becks ability levels were boomed up via the press..
Aussie
England will never get any better under the current set up, they should have overhauled the whole set up from top to bottom after the last WC, it’ll never happen, They’ve caused teams problems on the odd occasion they tried to play football, problem is they try it so rarely. We seem to be quite happy to let teams come at us and hit them on the break which is fine if you have a pacey world class midfield and forwards…we don’t.
Average players, average manager, shit set up, not really a recipe for success
You must be right Rich, because you certainly know a lot about recipes
Sorry about the last post Rich, I forgot it was Monday and it was you abuse free day
I didn’t see any abuse, I don’t bother reading your posts……you should have worked out the “slight” flaw in this comment in a day or 2
Rookie error Aussie,
Richie, at least you have Spain to support
JJ… I said Spain and Germany before the start of the tournament, was just hoping England could surprise me
Richie,
I was hoping England would meet my expectations, and they did… good on them…
I just can’t bring myself to support a team consisting of players from teams I despise.
Would like to see Germany win… I don’t see anyone beating Spain though.
Whats up Toonsy?
Can’t you drive a bus and type a story at the same time?
I tell you what, I might bang one out this afternoon for you… And then I might try type an article too…
JJ…Poor as they were I bet they still surpassed your expectations
…at least they got the “never having beaten Sweden” monkey off their backs
Richie, I don’t read your posts either so there is little chance of me finding that ‘slight’ flaw
Apparently we are interested in the polish defender Boenisch.. free – ex Breman… more speculation me thinks…
Helloooooooooo anyone out there…. I’m surprised Troy hasn’t posted actually, when there is a bad result, he is all over it, ready to tell us how he would have done it
Fossie, trying to stir the pot again, getting all excitable waiting for his next nibble on my rod
Do you enjoy nibbling on my rod Fossie?
Aussie drops the bait and the white whale Troyby Dick strikes.. quicker than I anticipated I must say, I knew he would be lurking just under the surface
as far as your rod goes..well I just had a steak for dinner so I am in need of a toothpick 
AMF at last someone with a footy brain re; becks most overrated player ive know yes dead balls crossing v good end of, best thing red nose did was him ship out never known anybody play the press up like him did he ever tackle anyone in his life,couldnt wait to pass the ball in case someone slid in and spoiled his looks,yes giggs was twice the player he would ever be
richie has twice his class too (its monday)
@Luis_RMC follow this bloke on twitter hes interveiwing yohan this afternoon and also in english
Good idea for an article perhaps because the conversation it sparked was good; with players like Lover, Guthrie and Smith leaving can we get away with just having youngsters step up, or do they need replacing despite the fact they probably played ten games between them.
Yeah Ice, I never bought into the Becks hype. Saw him play centre mid against Australia in a game once and he was feckin inept.. I see Richie dumped you in it earlier,I was surprised because he is not normally like that
danny played 16 games last season and played well
AMF snake in the grass come to mind
two players to sign this week,three to go out,i feel it in my water
Ice
I reckon it will be a couple of weeks before we see a new face through the door.. those going out maybe sooner
AMF theres talk of that aussie c/h lad comeing to toon,heard oot over your end???
Nothing new Ice.. been keeping tabs on it but it has gone quiet.. Curtis Good is his name… the only newish thing is apparently he was granted an extension to his 10 day trial while with Newcastle. Read into that what you may
I see Troy has swum under a rock after biting like dung bettle on a turd
woo hoo hoo
I see Barton has lost the qpr captaincy.. fined six weeks wages and has a new clause in his contract stating that it will be terminated if he re-offends.. glad we don’t have to deal with that nonsense now days..
Aussie @295,you have such a nice turn of phrase
So we can assume Bartons contract will be terminated around the 10thgame of the season then when he comes back.
Kim, I save all my best & classy stuff for Troy
Kim it also depends on how his night clubbing goes
Aussie @295
You got Troy on the end of your hook again?
Aussie, just glad he ain’t our problem anymore.
Good story from skysports, an interview with Pardz and he is saying that he and Carr were at the euros looking over their targets.. the least this says to me is that our targets will be quality.. who they really are is anyone’s guess.. it also states that newcastle are no longer a selling club
not sure on that one 
JJ
Troy doesn’t like it when some one out smarts him, he will be sitting next to his keyboard, desperate to write something in return but he can’t because he knows he will be falling into my well set trap once again 
and as Troy would say – whoo hoo
“the least this says to me is that our targets will be quality”……unless they’re English
I was going to say that Rich but I thought it was “too soon” to crack jokes about it
It’s never to soon, you have to laugh in the face of adversity….as you should know
Adversity?
Link to the article AMF?
BRENDAN this one ?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7841133/?
Ice @310 I’m confused by that interview as it completely contradicts what he and Carr said in a previous interview at the end of the season . Remember when they said they accept we’ll probably have to sell a top player in order to bring some in, now apparently we are not a selling club
KIM dont think we are the only ones confused
ICE ,we will soon see the truth come deadline day
Carr said something similar on talkshite the other week about fat mick wanting to keep the current team and build the side up so maybe thats the plan be interesting if we get a carrollesque off like…
CC ,that’s the interview I’m on about, it’s very mixed messages at the mo.
Maybe they don’t intend to sell but as you say can’t turn down £30/35m .
In hindsight as gutting as it was at the time, I dont think any club could turn that offer down for Mandy, But the situation is different now we are in a far better position on and off the pitch, It will be interesting to see when the next offer does come because is taking £20m-£30m worth it when they could make 3 or 4 times that by qualifying for the champions league, Finishing higher up in the league and being on telly more…
KIM i think you should write a thread for the blog to put the female view on the season,please dont think ime being sexist ime not,nowt wrong in seeing all sides imo
Remember a few weeks ago they had that big meeting to discuss transfers. After that the tone changed regarding transfers. Maybe Ashley decided make some funds available. I seem to remember an article with a line about ash making 20m available but didn’t pay it any mind. But look at what we’ve reportedly offered for debuchy de jong and that other Dutch lad….about 18m. Hmm….ilable. Didn
Sorry lads, my phone went haywire there. I’ll try again:
Remember a few weeks ago they had that big meeting to discuss transfers. After that the tone changed regarding transfers. Maybe Ashley decided make some funds available. I seem to remember an article with a line about ash making 20m available but didn’t pay it any mind. But look at what we’ve reportedly offered for debuchy de jong and that other Dutch lad….about 18m. Hmm….
Maybe Ashley’s/the clubs stance has changed or maybe we just read too much into interviews and quotes. We all contradict ourselves at times, we’ll give different answers to similar questions and how you answer them can depend on mood, how the question is asked, who asks it, etc etc. I don’t doubt Ashley would like to keep this team together and improve it, I don’t doubt he’s made cash available to the manager that doesn’t depend on selling a “big name” player, I also don’t doubt that if a “Carrollesque” type offer came in for a player he’d take it and probably rightly so… que sera sera
Agreed richie
ICE@318 That’s hillarious ,I can hardly string a coherent sentence together,poor Toonsy would have a mare editing it
I will leave the female perspective to Zoe who does a brilliant job ,talking of which ,what’s happened to her ? anyone follow her on twitter ? I don’t do any of that stuff. 
RICHIE is always right on mondays
KIM you back-heeled that well
Ice… it’s my sober day
ICE,
years of practice mate .
Kim..there’d be no point in coherent sentences on here with all us thick feckers, Aussie struggles with owt above neanderthal speak
I see Norwich and Southampton have joined the chase for besty, hopefully it’ll start a bidding war and we can get a bit more money from it, which can be redirected back into paying for debuchy/de jong. Gosling is also interesting blackburn, if they offer £2m+ I say we sell him.
RICHIE dont know how you stay sober with the shit you have had,and with aussie to put up too,strong like bull
ANDY hard to judge gosling mate not enough playing time,very one paced like
Ice….
speaking of shit I’ll email ya the lateston the hoose saga when I get the chance 
Ice
Aye, hasnt had much pitch time but when he starts warming up from the sub bench I always let off a little moan, just seems like a younger version of smith i.e five minutes into coming on he gets booked and has even got sent off when he was only on the pitch for a little bit.
Andy I wouldn’t wait to try to start a price war for best I would get shot the 1st proper offer comes in, we don’t want to be stuck with him, I would even sugest a BOGOF offer with Shola
Ice “Richies like a Bull” we know he’s big but is there any need for that
DAVE be careful you will have the shola warriors after you,but i agree
its monday so i didnt put a four letter word in front of bull
follow up word i should have said
Dave
, we need wor shola for the last 15min of every game apart from the fourty minutes that we give him in each match against the mackems 
Don’t know what ‘BOGOF’ means but thats blasphemy talking of getting rid of Shola
ANDY you takeing the water! “bogof” bye one get one free,and ime 100% with dave on that,your happy with part time players then
Andy BOGOF is for Buy one get one Free, he is shite and a total waste of a shirt and number, 27 appearances or 1005 mins last season with 2 goals
I would expect more from a striker
Andy I was just checking there Best played 1163 mins and scored 4 goals Shola 1004 mins and 2 goals so between them they played 2167 mins with a grand total of 6 goals maybe you and others are happy with that but I expect better when you consider Cisse played 1113 mins with 13 goals in a new team, league and country
DAVE shola must hold the record of being off-side so many times in such a short time on field of play
Ice he also holds the record for most time spent on his arse and the greatest amount of attacks broken down
he must be one of the biggest arse-kisser too,how else is he still here oh yes no one wants him
Gan on Dave
Big Dave,
There is an old saying that goes…”you can’t polish a turd”
TGS @ 346 aye I know it well and use it almost everyday, when someone asks me can you cover this black blob of ink with a red rose
or can you cover this big bit of tribal with a Koi 
but I guess thats easier than getting Strolla to score
‘Buy one get one free’
yeah I knew that one 
. I don’t think Shola generally comes on to score goals, Pards brings him on for his tremendous hold-up play, few are better at it and I stand by that statement as if you actually watch him when he comes on his close control is brilliant as is his short passing and heading ability, both of which he used when he teed off Cisse for the wonder-strike v Chelsea, and Shearer’s goal v Everton.
Andy he is supposed to be a striker and his job should be to score goals.
but don’t let that put you off him
Believe it or not I HAVE watched him thanks, and yeah sometimes he possesses the skills you talk of and yeah he set Cisse up but that doesn’t mean we have to over look the fact he is a shit striker.
But if you actually watch him you must also see that he continually gives the ball away, breaks down attacks, gets caught offside, spends most of his time on his arse, is as slow as a tortoise and he can’t score
Just sent Sebastian Boenisch a message to get signed up for the toon. He’d be a great signing, international experience, young, and is available on a free. German media are reporting it too…
MM have you seen much of him
MM i take it you rate him,mmmmmmmmmm,then again you rate shola
these storeys never ending this one has a picture like
http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2012/06/blogs/picture-demba-ba-spotted-in-saudi-arabia?
Dave@347 That’s got to be seriously annoying having to put your work on top of an ill thought out tatt .Why don’t they just get it lasered off .My daughters had 9 laser sessions so far at £80 a pop to get rid of a £50 tattoo. She went through a funny stage had it done then realised what a bad idea it was
its like pulling teeth trying to get comments the neet
Kim I see that every single day at work , and I often get asked to do stupid stuff that I know they’ll regret but if I think it’s wrong I won’t do it.
But the sad thing is someone else will do it for them.
As for cover up work I generally get a buzz out of it as 99% of the time the client has hid it for yonks and is normally embarrassed of it, so when I finish with it they are usually over the moon with it
Laser can be a strange thing we had one but we normally only used it to lighten a tattoo so that we could cover it with something, but I do know that Laser companies charge a fortune for it and normally have it turned down so that it doesn’t remove it to quick.
Dave ,YOU can hardly see hers now .She had writing across the top of her chest . I completely lost it when I saw it ,had to leave the house to stop myself lamping her one I was so cross . It’s beautifully done but really inappropiate as she admits herself now.
I’m not anti tattoos I love em ,when they are well thought out and in the right place . 
Kim that wasn’t a very good place to get tattooed
I take it she has others 
Dave ,only a star on her hip that she had done whilst at school
Took me two years to discover that little gem :lol Apparently the laser hurts more than the tattoo did 
Kim thats a shit place to get your 1st real tattoo, and whoever done it should have tried to talk her out of it, but sometimes the client thinks they are 100% sure that thats what they want and will never change there mind.
I was asked by one of my regulars to tattoo the side of her neck but I told her that I think she was making a mistake but she insisted that she wanted it, so I told her to comeback in a few months and if she still wanted it I would do it for half price.
But I didn’t need to because she changed her mind and realised that it was too much.
Yeah laser is a bit nippy I have blasted meself with one a few times but Tattoo removal acid is even nippier
Dave ,Removal acid
wow ,never heard of that ,that’s a bit hardcore 
News filtering through here in Holland that newcastle are interested in Tovinen from PSV . Hope to god it does not happen ,he’s a idiot ala Ballotelli
Kim you have to try these things
Dave , I did a lot worse than her in my youth but I’m not about to tell her that
BIG DAVE a question for you mate , my daughter is 15 and wants a tattoo me wife said she can have it and although i am well covered in tats i said no . I think at 15 its far too early too get one , she wants a sort ring on her finger . Am i being to hard to say no .
Axel ,whats he done that’s bad enough for us to give him a wide birth ? ,I don’t know much about him really.
Axel
, sold him on FIFA when I was 10 cus his pic scared me 
Not that scary man
Axel no your not being to hard mate, its actually against the law to tattoo anyone under 18 even WITH their parents consent, I have tattooed 17 yr olds that I knew or their parents were customers, but it was more through the fear that they would go to a tattoo party and get something stupid by some fuking knob that thinks they know what they’re doing.
I have tattooed my 3 daughters the 1st 2 I tattooed when they were 17 the youngest I done for her 18th, 15 IMO is far too young mate and especially somewhere that is so visible and cant be hid
BIG DAVE cheers m8 , here its not against he law if the parents give written permission , which i think is a disgrace . imo 18 should be the youngest age allowed . Its good that you covered some 17 year old’s though better a real tattoo artist like you than a knob with a tat gun
KIMTOON every thing Ballotelli does he learned from Tovinen , the guy is a nutter .
Axel ,Oh
Our lass left a note on the telly for me it read ‘ It’s not working , I’m leaving ‘ . I plugged it in, turned it on, nowt wrong with the tv………….
i got mine at 16 mum knew i wud get one and stopped me by getting a friend to tattoo me….. thank god she did….. he was a tattooist by the way that since got covered up
found i grew a lot after 16 and although the work was good my body changing altered the tattoo hence a monster cover up as a excuse =D
I see talkshite/caughtoffside seem to think that city want to put a bid in for cpt colo
, can they not think of something a bit more creative 
Pup
Andy…they don’t need to be creative when they can regurgitate an old one that was just as laughable the first time around…sounds like how Mrs Aussie describes their honeymoon night
Axel…What’s Toivonen done wrong then? can’t find owt on wiki and his disciplinary record doesn’t seem that bad(though he did pick up a few yellows last season)…or is he just a general alround loon lik Balotelli?
I sent my missus to the kitchen for her honeymoon Rich… she wasn’t laughing about it….
As if he will get a say in it if the coin is right for Ajax
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/157415.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
I suppose he could stay if he has a contract…but if a big offer comes in I doubt he will…..unless the selfish fecker fancies Champions League football
True, at least he won’t go to Spurs based on that assumption
…or us
yeah I know
but at least we didn’t have a spot taken away from us.. 
We can revel in Spurs misfortune for a moment. 
or is that a neanderthal way of thinking?
I see my mate Troy didn’t bother replying
I’m sorry Troy, please come out from hiding
“or is that a neanderthal way of thinking?”…Ice made me
Maybe he can use his mates – Joey and Andy as character witnesses
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/312/7842110/ranger-assault-trial-to-begin
I don’t think we will see Ranger playing for us again..
He lives in Forest Hall so it was probably young “Spencertoon” who’s got him into botha
Every Muslim is suppowed to perform the hajj in Saudi Arabia once in their life but Muslims usually go to Mecca more than once so it is nothing out of the ordinary for Ba to be in Mecca, especially since Hajj is during the season. I am Saudi so I know this, glad to see Demba Ba made it here for a visit!
whats i getting wrong for now!,whats all this talk of tattoos ive had a few over the years mine were just black/blue touch of yellow they go away after a few months my advice is dont go to them places or learn to run faster,i want to know how it is always the guy that gets a clip never woman bloody sexist imo
SK. Nice insight mate….. cheers for that… Don’t tell the media though, it aint half as exciting as Ba jumping ship to another club
Ice, the only thing you need to worry about is that it is no longer Monday and Richie is fair game.. 384 is a good place to start
Aussie Magpie Fan, I didn’t say anything what are you talking about?
AMF aye see that,as you know its a sign of a weak mind to blame others so you have to give some lee-way or in richie case a lot of lee-way
Ice
@Faussie
Just tuned in there and scrolled thru the posts to find I had posted at all. I can’t remember posting. I must have been hammered or someone has sabotaged my account.
Mind, I have been bamboo shoots for days in the back garden! I go thru fads and this one involves dressing up as a giant Panda.
TROY you will be safe in your panda suit,its a fact that they are hard to breed due to the male panda haveing a very small private part
Ice.
ouch, take it easy on old Troy, classic 
Troy, no stress mate, I notice you do go a little quiet when someone gets the better of you and you get beat at your own game.. its all good, it happens to the best of us..
Arsenal have announced the signing of the frechie striker giroud… come on, why aren’t we signing anyone
something has got to give 
frustrated :-\
AMF your frustrated,spare a thought for poor troy
Ice, I don’t want to spare a thought regarding Troy’s tiny panda penis
AMF dave told me richie is thinking of getting a sex change to get himself one hes been told to lose 15st they think there is one in there somewhere
Ice
I heard that Richie spent 14 hours at the hands of a plastic surgeon……… and that was just for a quote 
http://uk.mg40.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch
sure this a picture of richie family takeing him his snack
What’s this about Richie becoming a panda?
He must have some surgeon to get turned into a car
Poor Richie is it not hard enough for him being a 25st bald buster bloodvessel look alike that judased his hometown, that you’s have to give him a hard time, FFS give the guy a break
Or a bamboo shoot.
poor richie hes got feelings you know he sits on them all day
My 10 month contract at the AIS has been terminated after 5 months.
I move back to Brisvegas this weekend.
Eofy budget cuts. Job mostly done anyway. So now I’m unemployed again and have time to engage with you guys. Let’s hope there’s some football to talk about soon and we can read something other than trivia and bullshit.
And no, Pootle, I wasn’t talking about you.
I might even consider writing an article. Hmm, now there’s an idea.
I bet Richie wishes it was Monday right about now
Lads ,how can Arsenal sign players befor the window opens? is it just a pre contract thingy or what .It’s the same with Chelsea and Man utd they been signing too .
coz the contracts start from 1st July
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