Home grown,but how many others are there?
The rules state that within our registered squad of 25 players, eight of them must be “home grown” players. Home-grown players do not have to be English; home-grown players are defined as those who “irrespective of nationality or age, have been affiliated to the FA or Welsh FA for a period of three seasons or 36 months prior to 21st birthday.”
But with our transfer eyes firmly locked onto the French and Dutch leagues in search of value for money, is it possible to keep within the rules this season? Or the next? Or the one after that? We’ve already lost a couple of home grown players such as Alan Smith and Danny Guthrie, and with rumours over the future of Leon Best, Fraser Forster and Danny Simpson we could still lose a few more over the summer.
The good news is that we are fine next season. We have Tim Krul, Steve Harper, Rob Elliot, Steven Taylor, Mike Williamson, Ryan Taylor, James Perch, Dan Gosling and Shola Ameobi which makes nine, even if all the players mentioned previously leave the club in this transfer window.
Realistically though, I would suggest that a lot of those players won’t exactly be first choice long term aside from Tim Krul and Steven Taylor, and even Taylor’s place in the team, whilst assured right now, may be under threat if we manage to bring in a good central defender in the summer. With that in mind, how are we looking longer term?
Well next season Shane Ferguson will have to be named as part of the 25 man squad if he is to feature for us. The same will apply for Sammy Ameobi and James Tavernier as all three turn 21 before before next January which means they can sneak in unregistered this term but will have to be named next time around.
All in all we have little to worry about on that front, so rest easy Eric. It’s all in hand and I’m sure that it is something that all clubs have in their thoughts whilst they are assembling their squads.
Well, hopefully anyway!
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I reckon the finacial fair play rules will have more of an impact on clubs than the homegrown rule. Clubs will be developing their young guys and they will play a big part in the numbers needed.. However the clubs paying big wages will have to get creative to get around the money rules.. be interesting when it all comes to fruition..
we are fine… we are going to bring in 18year old players in the future
so they can play 1st team and not have to be registerd.
when they turn 21 they are already elegible to be named as proper players and then we sell them 4 10times the price to big clubs and be richer than any other clubs in the world…. bring on the new season and what r the gossips about new signing… i feel like we will not sign any more players this transfer…
maybe potential youths…
We’ll be fine, defo ok for now and I’d be a bit dissappointed if those running the club aren’t actually aware of the rules and take them into consideration in planning for the future
….although technically there’s nowt in the rules that say you have to have any homegrown players in your squad, the rule is that you can only have a maximum of 17 “non-homegrown” players in a squad. So for example even if we had only 6 “homegrowns” it wouldn’t mean we’re breaking any rules only that we could only have a squad size of 23 players(aged over 21)…not ideal I know as you’d want the full 25 in an ideal world 
……I think that’s how it works, ‘cos can’t be arsed looking up the rules again 
RICHIE you will be right mate ime with your take on it,plus i cannot be arsed either
“irrespective of nationality or age, have been affiliated to the FA or Welsh FA for a period of three seasons or 36 months prior to 21st birthday.”….. I “think” this is slightly different for the Europa squads, they only count as “homegrown” if they have been at their current club for 3 years to qualify for that one…again from memory so soz if wrong
Ice
@Richie
Don’t worry Faussie will check his football encyclopaedia of tactics and rules.
You’ve got to love Faussie for his footy knowledge.
Is Faussie hiding? Uh oh.
Troy…. I’m not sure how they’ll explain that rule in pictures for Aussie’s benefit though
Sammy’s 21 next year so will still not count in the 25 man squad until 2014/15 squad(if still here)
“Troy Stavers
June 26, 2012 at 09:16
@Faussie
Just tuned in there and scrolled thru the posts to find I had posted at all. I can’t remember posting. I must have been hammered or someone has sabotaged my account.
Mind, I have been bamboo shoots for days in the back garden! I go thru fads and this one involves dressing up as a giant Panda.
”
Troy,
I couldn’t help it, Aussie was desperate for a bite from you, so I thought I’d take the opportunity to chuck the bait out myself… It was quite humerous watching Aussie taunt the fake account …
Sorry Aussie, thought you’d notice the absense of an avatar. I should have had more fun with it…
I even spelt Fausie, “Fossie” which I thought would be a give-away…
Fair play rules are the best thing to happen to football. If implemented properly. The next thing I’d like to see is a wage cap for individual players. That for me would solve a lot of problems.
Richie, I wouldn’t worry about Sammy. He’s sh%te and will never end up holding down a place. He’ll go the same way as the likes of Ian Bogie and Jamie McGlen. THERE YOU ARE, I’VE SAID IT!
Max T I think you might be on to something there
JJ so you have multiple personality syndrome
Ashley (the Messiah) has a plan no doubt?
Carr unearthing gems as well as young challengers from Europe, a youth policy, Pardew with his “It’s more than a game” team ethic, the perfect transfer policy and an encentive based team pay structure.
Hang on for the rocket ride it will be a blast
JJ the fair play rules will mean fuk all to the big boys, they don’t live by rules. As for the wage cap that would be the best thing ever to happen but it’ll never happen again because of the big boys.
B+B I agree about Sammi and have said it before, I will even be surprised if Vuckic makes it
JJ
They won’t be implemented properly though …and even if they were it would probably mean Man Utd winning the league every year as no one could compete with them financially, the rich clubs will still be the rich clubs and UEFA don’t have the balls to kick any of them out of European competition, imo of course
Big Dave
Na, I didn’t even know you could duplicate a username… Just made the one comment, then felt bad.
B+B…You could well be right, I’ve seen nowt to convince me about him yet, he’s still young though so I hope he proves me wrong.
JJ…you can steal avatars too
Sammy needs a good long loan spell. I’d like to see vuckic stick around the toon. I think he could and should get some games for us next season
I have yet to see Vuckic make an impact, as for Sammi he is crap and will go the same way as Kaz Lua Lua
Won’t ask how you know Richie
TGS I would agree with that
Reet break over back to do a bit
JJ…nae idea, sometimes it just happens…oops!
@JJ
I couldnt work it out. I think I worked the time out as about 2-3 am when it was posted but I was a kip! I was starting to think I had been sleep blogging! Nasty illness inflicted on Rodzilla.
Strange feeling trying to work out whether you’ve posted or not.
You could have least slagged Aussie off !
Alreet everyone,
This is a concern I’ve mentioned before as a long term issue. I’m sure Pardew and Carr will be very mindful of the rules and where they stand in terms of it. To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me if we see at least 1 Englishman or player who will qualify under the ruling, we’ve been linked with players like Clyne, Butterfield and Hiollett, so I think it is likely that one of our inbound transfer may well fit the bill.
Theres no worry at all about the home grown quota as far as I can see, that’s at least numbers wise.
My concerns are the lack of quality amongst them.
@TGS
Are you impressed with any of the fringe players?
Vukic may have talent but attitude is equally as important.
I can’t get excited by any of them but that’s young English footballers. The quality and quantity is not there.
RICHIE that avatar really suits you “A DOG”
the only one i have any hope for is fergie ime sorry to say
I really think if Sammy gets a good loan spell in the Championship, he could improve dramatically!
@Ice
Fergie has promise but is still way short of quality to break in the first team. At least he was last season.
TGS @23 think you got it just about right imo,sammy got a shot at the under 21s but was nee great shakes in the game
Troysa,
Fergie looks the best of the bunch at the moment.
I have seen Remi Streete a few times for the youth’s and he was the stand out player by a country mile, whether he makes it or not in the EPL is a different matter.
ANDREWT,
Believe me Sammi is shoite
TROY he has got what the others dont imo “guts”imo
Congrats to Lee Clark by the looks of it. I still think he will manage us some day…
You guys seen the FIFA 13 cover? It features Messi and in the backround is St James’ Park
On the youth
I actually think that the players mentioned i.e. Sammy, Vuckic and the like look very promising and could be very good players for us, the fans need to give them a chance and Pards needs to send them on loan for experience, it did Wilshere and Sturridge a world of good to get that loan to Bolton.
Ice
Is abeid going to be home grown if we keep him for long enough like Harris is…
RJ
Don’t think so, we got Abeid when he was 19, think we got Vuckic when he was 17/18, so I think Mehdi just misses it.
I see Ian Bogie is saying Gateshead might not have a big enough squad so he’ll have to ask Newcastle for some loanees. Me thinks its time for Campbell and Hooper to get some games, they need to start at the bottom and Non-league football won’t be too much pressure on them but will be much more competitive than reserves football. Would like to see Abeid go to somewhere like Hartlepool/Carlisle for 3-6 months.
Andymag:
Can you please link that???
I Can see that the Forster deal is off according to SKY.
And does anybody know who Wanyama is??
I havent followed The Scottish league for ages.
And is Simpson now staying with us?
DT http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/article.asp?aid=14620&iid=300&sud=285
Thanx ICE..
I just love this site!
DT
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Wanayama is a holding-mid/sometimes CB for Celtic, is young and kenyan, he is promising butt is still lacking experience and the mentalitly to succeed a PL level, would step away from a deal with him, let someone like Reading give him a chance could prove to be PL quality but I wouldnt bet on it. The one we should really be looking at is Black from Dundee, also a holding-mid and is a real unknown gem(outside the SPL), Rangers tried to get him when their embargo was on
On Simpson
Despite what Pards has said I don’t think so.
DT we have been waiting for news from your side,not slacking are we
Woops, Black plays for Hearts, and I doubt we’ll get him as he’s 27(just turned mind you).
Sharpy, I hope we don’t go for Hoillet. He’s over-rated.
I hope Forster stays because I’d like to see what he can do. I have a bad feeling about Elliott.
RJ@42…”A home grown player is defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Welsh Football Association for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).”…..he turns 21 August 6th next year so he doesn’t qualify, if he had turned 21 a couple of weeks later then he would have qualified….just…… I think
AndyMag – you could never say Butt lacks experience.
Thanks Andymag!
ICE:
The Danish Press is busy with Laudrup and Swans at The moment:-S
But everything is pointing towards De Jong and Debuchy at The moment.
I still hope Pardew and Carr Will follow up Their interest in Jores Okore from The Danish league because i Think he has The right mentality and talent for PL.
I Will post when something is worth posting:-)
B&B
B&B….I’d love Forster to stay and prove what he can do, can’t see him settling for second choice though as he’s played as first choice keeper for 3 years now…..that said, if he’s confident enough in his own ability maybe he’ll be up for the fight?
Richie
Maybe Pards can convince him that he’ll get a lot of Cup/Europa league games this season and if he impresses enough he can overtake Krul(don’t see that happening mind you).
Rumors getting ever stronger here in Holland that we are in for Toivonen .
AXEL aye saw that cannot see it mesel at 10mil quoted mate
Axel…Dunno if you seen on the other thread, I was just asking what Toivonen had done wrong as I couldn’t find owt and his discplinary record wasn’t too bad… last season apart when he picked up a few yellows and a sending off at the start of his career. Is he just a general loon like Balotelli?
All I know about Toivonen is he was top scorer on FM12 with 45 goals for me, but know nothing else about him. Seen nothing in the papers, but I’m guessing it looks like he might be signing for us?
B&B – I think he was a good player in a poor team but you’re right, I’m not sure he’d stand out in a better team. I’d be more keen on De Jong that Hiollett.
I’d love to see us raid afew of Spurs young English players, really like Caulker and the young full back Smith who was at Leeds last season. Think Smith would be one for next season but would be a good squad player for this season.
I’m not sure about Toivonen like, think there’s better players for £10m personally
Simon…I only know what I’ve read online but Axel was saying the other day that we should steer clear as he’s a bit of a nutter.
Toivonen is a filthy slut
Your sort of person then Jay
that is a scandlous piece of liable
or….the plain truth
Got a handle on me there like
takes one to know one ive always found
Icedog me old mate, can’t work out whether you’re taking the piss out of me or Richietoon
I’ve just realized the price is €10m which would be £8m which actually wouldn’t be too bad to honest, the kid can score goals and is about the right age to handle the move i think
JAY JAY always richie mate,who the hell could pick on nice chap like you,goes without saying does it not
Just stuck SSN on – Congrats to Clarkie, think he’s got a squad there that could well push for promotion.
Also see that loads of Rangers players aren’t transferring their contracts to this Newco. It doesnt sound good for them but don’t completely understand where it leaves them? … does that now mean they are free agents?
Thought as much icedog
Sharpy
Yeah they are, but apparently THE RANGERS(as they’re now known) are sueing(spelling?) them, don’t know how but that’s the general chat about the town/school.
SHARPY it leaves them in the shite mate thats where,now police back in there they say,ime not bothered about players they have a few quid anyway,its the fans, like them or not its there club
Andy – it’s a real mess for Rangers like isn’t it, that previous owner wants fucking shooting.
Can’t say I particularly like or hate Rangers but certainly feel for their fans, must be devastating for that to happen to your footy club.
Can’t really blame the players either, coz to be fair to them, they don’t even know what league they’ll be playing in next season
harper in interview that 6 players leaveing toon
says
Sharpy
They’ll be in the third division they can’t physically get enough votes for them to stay in the SPL. In a way I’m glad, never heard such obnoxious fans in my life, not friends with any supporters they’re all arseholes.
Ice – I’m a bit surprised at the other clubs turning their backs on Rangers and voting no to allowing them to remain in the league …. that’s a bit tough on them as well like
Ice
, important first teamers?
Sharpy…they’ve turned their back on them because for years they’ve made the huge financial advantage they have on the other teams even bigger by using money that wasn’t theirs to use by fiddling taxes etc. You can’t blame the teams for wanting them out as it would allow 3 or 4 other teams to now be in with a shout of Champions League football and the financial reward that brings. They’re not even certain of the 3rd div place as they have to apply for that 1 available place, though from a financial point of few I can’t see 3rd div teams voting no. As usual though, it’s the fans who suffer and not the feckers who did wrong in the first place.
ANDY he didnt say but he knows more than us, players talk to each other dont they,only other thing he said was with getting older hes finding training a lot harder now
Andy – when did he give that interview tho mate? It may have only just been printed but he could have done the interview before Smith, Loverman and Guthrie left, after that you could be looking at Kadar, Ranger and Forster?!
Journalists are bastards mate, hold onto stories til they could make an impact
RICHIE you put it so much better than me
but what i always say bullshit baffels brains everytime 
Was just on a Celtic site and this guy was suggesting that us Newcastle supporters are constantly belittling them and the SPL, which I think is a ridiculous statement as NUmad is the only site that openly mocks the SPL. He says he lives in Newcastle and I was wondering what the general consensus about the SPL is in the toon.
I can’t stand the fact Celtic & Rangers are religious clubs. Pathetic really!
The SPL is crap.
Rangers & Celtic are pathetic in what they stand for.
i agree with troy the jock cunts
@Batty
You have a way with words! Summed up perfectly .
Richie – I can fully appreciate that like, the level of debt the Manc clubs are in stinks in my opinion so I get why the clubs have voted that way. I suppose it’s like in every walk of life, the people who cause the destruction never really pay. A handful of fuckers in suits like politicians, bankers and boards of directors walk away scot free while the majority are left to suffer and pick up the pieces.
Andy – I wouldn’t passionately slag the SPL off, but I certainly don’t rate it all that highly. Celtic would be a mid table EPL team and the rest would be struggling to make the championship play offs (excluding Rangers, as I don’t know what their team would be next season)
why thank you troyster
BATTY some of your ex mates on ch4 now
Batty
Nowt wrong with what Harper said…
Forster, Best, Guthrie, Smith, Simpson, Lovenkrands, have left or will “probably” go, so there’s 6 straight away
dog watched it last nite you not logged into face book ???
BATTY kna mate came off aboot half hour ago to watch this
well ive messaged you
watch oot for the thick stoke fan near the end
Batty..I can’t watch the prog but I suspect you may need to narrow it down more than that
rich the lad who iam on aboot used to live 4 doors down from me
What’s it called, I might see if it’s on 4oD tomorrow.
BATTY just got it,and done reply mate
RICHIE LIFERS might change it to batty holiday clips like
Mr Batts and Icedog can you’s not say what you’s need to say on here or is there something wrong with us.
Richie did you notice I had to stick up for you today
BATTY – he was fucking touched wasn’t he? He tried to twat his mam in court and fell asleep 5 times, don’t think I’ve laughed so hard at a Stoke fan since Bas hat trick
DAVE divent want to corrupt you mate,with you going to re-take your vows soon,got to stay pure
Ice
you know me im pure as snow 
laters dog says its time,dave you stay pure mate take nee notice of the richie he will lead you doon the wrong path
Ice take it easy mate
Cheers Ice.
Aye Dave, thanks, I kna I can always rely on you
Danish Press suggests that John Guedetti Will go to Lazio.
The agent confirms that there is interest from both sides.
John Guedetti is only interested in a move that Will Secure him first team football.
I don’t see Newcastle Can match that request if we keep Ba.
JJ – I did notice the missing avatar etc… however I thought Troy may have been using a different email account or device… I did notice Fozzie as well but Troy does half spout some shit so I thought it still could be him
…. 
I’m not sure about the using of other peoples blog names, I could post some serious shit as JJ if I wanted 
all fair in love and war though. 
Good article Toonsy, but I think you’re mistaken when you say that Fergie, Sammy and Tavernier would need to be included in the 25 man squad the season after next.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about this under 21 rule. It doesn’t actually say that a player has to be under 21 on 1st Jan in the relevant year. It says that a player who is 21 or under on that date need not be registered. In other words, the player needs to be under 22, not under 21.
Take Santon for example. He was born on 2nd Jan 1991, so on 1st Jan this year he was still only 20 (he didn’t turn 21 until the next day). He will therefore definitely qualify as an under 21 player for this coming season, and because he will still only be 21 on Ist Jan next year, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t need to be registered for the 2013-14 season either.
Fergie and Tavernier were both born in the same year as Santon (July ’91 and Oct 91 respectively) and so would need to be first registered in the same season as him. Sammy is a year younger (born May ’92) so he wouldn’t need to be registered until a year later. He will still be 21 on 1st January 2014 so I think he would still qualify as an under 21 for the 2014-15 season.
So to summarise, it looks to me like:
1) None of these players would need to be registered for this coming season OR the 2013-14 season
2) Santon, Fergie and Tavernier wouldn’t need to be registered until the 2014-15 season
3) Sammy wouldn’t need to be registered until the 2015-16
season
But I could be wrong
@Faussie
It looks JJ absolutely hung you out to dry.
JJ, Mind, I agree, you shouldn’t try and use my name, you haven’t got the charisma to pull it off.
Feel free Aussie to fill your boots. I’m cycling to work in 5 mins.
I will be checking later tho.
I had no reason to believe it wasn’t you Troy so why was I hung out to dry
.. I can borrow any user name on here and do the same thing.. it is not clever, more underhanded… It was your user name taken so if you don’t have a problem then neither do I. 
Chris G… I have to disagree, as far as I know the rule says “”An Under 21 player is defined as one who is under the age of 21 on 1st January in the year in which the season commences” no mention of “21 or under” as far as I can find…apologies if wrong
Munich….ya jammy sod, another pre season close to you v Monaco
Some pesky lout steals my username in the very early hours of most Sunday mornings.
Have we signed anyone yet?
…I’m not arsed about that Debuchy to be honest, he seems OK as a right winger but I’m not convinced about fullback. I still think we need a couple of defenders. As usual I think we’ll sign some fker neebody’s hord of.
Rodz….we knew that, “early hours Rodz” is far more intelligent and has a better taste in music than you
…speaking of stealing ‘usernames’, it seems some crazy Swede has stolen my moniker to use in an idea for a movie (last paragraph):
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/06/alt-text-creature-free-features/
(I feel violated)
Ooh Richie, you are awful
Rodz@124
…looking forward to Marveaux returning anyway (not too arsed about Obertan). I think he’ll give us a whole new attacking option. He’s the only decent natural winger we have IMO (I still think Jonas is a RB).
Not sure about all the strikers we’re being linked with lately. Truth is, it’s impossible for us to speculate accurately really, as none of us know who’s staying and who’s off. I guess at a minimum, we could do with a CB who can play FB and a CF if everyone stays. Actually make that a CM too, now that we’ve lost Gypsy Wedding boy.
Reet, I’m off to CAB to try and sort oot a moontin of shite…..
Rod,
Gypsy Wedding Boy
How did you find that article Rodz? You googling our own nick name you vain fecker
your surname wouldnt be Kardashian by any chance 
Bloody internet problems ,virgin coming out tommorow ,ain’t been right for weeks
pays enough money for faster broadband don’t make me laugh.
try to refresh and it freezes then I loose connection altogether ,it’s like living in outer mongolia or something
KIM you want to try talk-talk my god its more trouble than richie
What’s the goss over your way Ice? Got any local info? ?
AMF everything is dead as as richie sex life,still think we are being lead down the garden path with these striker signings and defenders,D.WISE has said he ready to be a manager again ffs
Ice ,It’s driving me nuts ,I have been trying to source info on rectal cancer treatment for my poor old mum whos C.T scan has come back showing a nasty. Every time I get on the relevant site and try to go to the next page it freezes on me .I may well get froze out here in a mo.
Got to go visit her with the Gp in a minute to break the news and I just wanted to be able to put her mind at ease regarding treatment as shes a nervous wreck as it is. Typical of the internet to let you down just when you need it.
I agree Ice.. I doubt we will get either one…. saw the wise story.. tosser of a player, tosser of a director of football, tosser of a manager to be…
Bloody hell Kim, your not having a good run with your families health.. my thoughts are with you and yours.. my mum went through cancer a few years back and it was not an easy time but it all worked out well….hoping the same for you..
even the rags are struggling to find owt,just read this if there was ever a storey about sweet- fa this is it,how do these guys get there jobs defeats me.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120627/newcastle-battle-barcelona-bundesliga-defender-175325
KIM really sorry to hear that.lifes a bitch at times,no pun intended
Ice
nice story, what a load of shit 
hello lads , long time no speak
think we have gave up on de jong if the rumours are true that we are looking at that ola toivenon ! ive got no comment as i havent seen the 2 play but from what other people have been saying is that de jong is a better option?? 12million is a lot of money for a 21year old so i see it as a risk to be honest
lads and lasses
sorry kim
welcome back army hows the bairn?
well only sixty days to go before window closes
Ice, I see Ed has done a piece on the article you posted the link to earlier
not even worth commenting on let alone write a blog piece on it
AMF hes just put up another one on that polish guy now,aye pointless
dave told me richie was going to write a thread but reading by pictures just aint going to work imo
Ice
I’d love to read a thread by Richie, it will probably be about what beer goes best with what pie on game day. 
AMF richie gave you plenty stick last night,while you were haveing a bit shut eye like,not that i would grass on him like
Ha ha , I read that Ice…
I woke up and said to the missus that I had a bad nights sleep, must have been all Richies knives pressing into my back 
Ill tell you what, you don’t see salt of the earth blokes like us doing that kind of thing 
Ice
I think the glass of water sitting on my bedside table would also start to ripple as he approached, ala juasic park 
*Jurasic *
Aussie @136 Thanks . Not been ignoring you ,internet froze again
then had to see mum. She was brilliant ,really brave about it all bless her. Getting the internet fixed tommorow hopefully ,apologise to anyone I don’t reply to in advance as it keeps freezing and not letting me reconnect.
Still no signings I see ,really don’t see us signing anyone we have bid for now as gone on to long.Reckon it’s gonna be someone out of the blue who we ain’t even thought of meself.
I see it’s still Richie bating day on here.
Bale signs new contract until 2016 I see SSN.
No stress Kim, everyone pops on and off this site at odd times, so sometimes it can be hours/days before replies come back
.. In regards to Richie.. well its not Monday so he is fair game 
Aussie, I didn’t realise he got the day off on mondays
Army@40 Hi ,loong time no hear
KIM glad things went ok,dont worry about richie he doesnt understand he gets mondays off to catch up on his reading as long as there isnt more than six letters in a word hes fine
ICE
Aussie@129, a mate of mine actually emailed me that link. He reads those sort of sites and stumbled across it. He knows about my nickname on here.
Kim@134, sorry to hear about your Mam, hope it all works out OK. Regarding broadband, daft question and I’m sure you’ve checked, but have you got microfilters in EVERY phone port connected to your main box? If so, have you tried plugging your router directly into the main box? (the one that comes in from outside) That worked for me as a temporary fix when I was having intermittent connection problems.
I had all sorts of issues with BT a few years ago. Countless phone calls to their ‘support’ were fruitless (as well as infuriating). In the end I found out the name and correspondence address of the Chief Executive of BT and wrote him a massive letter. I’d suggest if you keep getting fucked around by them you do similar I.E. bypass the monkeys and go straight to the top. Log all the phone calls and pissing about you make (and add a few more for good measure).
I ended up getting everything fixed through a free engineer visit, my own personal claim helpline adviser, and 6 months free for the trouble (at the time that equated to about £100).
I left BT after the free 6 months and have been with Sky ever since. Not had any problems with them. Touch wood.
From David Crossan on twitter –
(he’s a Journo based in France and an NUFC fan)
David Crossan @davidmcrossan
#debuchy. L’equipe says #lille haven’t confirmed 9 mill euro #inter bid reported by gazzetta dello sport
David Crossan @davidmcrossan
#debuchy: l’equipe adds rb wants to join his mate #cabaye at #nufc. #lille felt 5 mill euro #nufc offer ‘indecent’, want 10
Rod@161. Wow ,that’s the way to do it. We got Virgin ,no probs normally but been playing up a few weeks now . I thought it was the computer but called virgin today and the tech guy says ,it’s coming on line then going off again ,which is a problem with the connection so a guys coming tommorow afternoon to fix hopefully .It’s o.k at the mo ,but liable to go anytime again .We have the wireless router for the girls laptop upstairs ,I always use the main dinosaur downstairs as I don’t know how to use the laptop being a technophobe
Thanks for the help though I will mention the microfilters to Hazel when she gets home later .God I’m such a let down to women kind arn’t I 
I’m brilliant at DIY though, 
M@162 That pretty much comfirms what we all knew then .Trouble is Lille may well want 10 but they may have to be happy with 8 or 9 or I suspect Toon will walk away ,if they ain’t already. Thanks for the update.
From Danish Press:
Newcastle Hunt Sebastian Boesnich.
The left back is free from his contract with Werder Bremen and we are trying to get him onboard atm.
Kim@163
…DIY skills are well worthy of praise mate. Anyone can learn to use a computer, even Australians. 
The microfilter thing is definitely worth checking. You can lose your connection for hours on end if you’re missing one plugged into any phone port in your house. Sure the engineer will sort it for you tomorrow anyway.
Reet, I’m off now. Not planning on coming back on here later, but I’m on the lash tonight, so I’ll apologise in advance just in case my username gets hacked again.
…cheers for the info., M.
…and Danish. Another one to throw into the pot then!
I’ve got feelings you know!
Aussie@151 and 152 try jurassic
…and a pint of fosters goes well with a wombat and eucalyptus pie, as well you know
Kim…Sorry to hear about ya Mam, hope all works out well.
ah RICHIE back sun must have gone down owr there then
Ice.. bit cloudy but 30c …37c at the weekend apparently
Richie @169 Thanks.
RICHIE you could always handle “heat”
Ice…funnily enough I handle it better than wor lass, ya think she’d be used to it….now she just thinks that Geordies can handle temperatures at either extreme
‘Strop’ will be away to bed now Ice, ya can hurl abuse at him again now
Has Faussie gone to his bibawhack?
Just read his big big bite from this morning.
Aussie Magpie Fan
10 hrs ago
I had no reason to believe it wasn’t you Troy so why was I hung out to dry .. I can borrow any user name on here and do the same thing.. it is not clever, more underhanded… It was your user name taken so if you don’t have a problem then neither do I.
Woo hoo hoo hooo
Alright alright Aussie. It’s only a joke.
Now get your seal costume on and go and swim with the sharks.
me throw abuse! never been known
unless the football manager comes on,think hes better known as chuck 
hallow icedog matey , bairn has just turned one , hes massive now haha! are you on twitter?
anyone on twitter here is my username @ashleysacunt add me for some footy crack
ARMY kna mate never bother that twatter like,1yr old christ time flys
Wehey, the toon versus Monaco at Landsberg am Lech, 30 minutes from wor hoose. Ya beauty !!!!
MM your owr late richie has all ready called you worse that shite over it
than
Been oot travelling for a few days mukka, good to see you’ve covered me back mate…
He’s a rascal Richietoon, it all started when Aussie Mag kept getting mucked into him…
Landsberg am Lech thats where Adolf was imprisoned, and wrote Mein Kampf…
Howay the lads….am off to bed, cream crackered….
theres nowt like a good old penalty shoot out
hell slap it up Ronaldo and Co
Dave
…. sounds like your gaff here now wi fireworks going off all the time 
….funnily enough I was in the town today walked down a street called “Carrer Belfast” 
that PEPE is one top centre half mind
Richie I bet there is some amount of fireworks, and I think it will end up being our 2 teams in the final, I just wished I had of put a bet on
but probably wouldn’t have got much.
Ice yeah he is decent, I still cant get over Ronaldo being 5th in line
DAVE@189 I don’t get it either ,like Carrolll the other night for us .
Dave,,aye hindsight is a wonderful thing, if I’d put the bet on it wouldn’t have happened
Kim I think the strikers should be 1st up, I can sort of see why they would maybe keep a top guy for the 5th and final pen but if you don’t get to that stage ala Portugal will then it was a waste of time.
Well Richie at least we’ll know we were right
I’ve been filled with useless information
Spewed out by papers and radio stations
I’ve been hounded by fairweather friends
Sowing the seeds for my discontent
Life is like a sewer
And i’m trying to wade thru her
I threw in my money and made my wish
But sleeping boys catch no fish
All desires have been denied to put me in this state of mind
Another year older and what have i done
My aspirations have shriveled in the sun
I’m crippled by guilt
Blinded by science
I’ve been waiting for tomorrow all of my life
…quite happy to just tag along like….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHzOG4mJ0PA&feature=related
…Here comes another Winter of long shadows and high hopes.
Here comes another Winter, waiting for Utopia; waiting for errr, eh, hell to freeze over; and stuff – innit
I sponsor the government to subsidise my local bread shop. I know it makes sense
yeah bollocks whatever
…how could anyone know me, when I don’t even know myself
A: They’re not you.
B:
always amusing.
…and as far as the government goes.
Well fuck them too.
Absolutely no fucking idea.
(the cunts)
can anyone tell me to worry less?
(Fuck offs not accepted)
morning Rodz
You need to worry less mate
isn’t it about time you were tucked up in bed
hahaha – you cunt
so, just to keep them occupied, at this point I would’ve said summik like “HAHA, Fosters, you cunt!” Poot enatha shreemp on thi fakin borbi mite.
…and that’s my serious face.
…divnt fukiz aboot like
HOWMAN, what ye luknat?
yeah whatever.
Interesting Door closing..,
Closed.
…yeah whatever
rodz, full of your usual charm I see
Rich @ 168 – doent go critisizing me spellun mayte… I is triing as harrd as I cen
Troy
, the lonely fisherman with his empty bucket. I am disappointed because I have come to expect better responses from you… you will need to lift your game mate 
You used to be sharp and quite witty, now you seem to have run out of ideas..
Oh well I hope you can turn it around
Rodz, are you still around or are you cock in handing it in bed
derp
listening to a bit of early corrosion of conformity at the moment.. cracking band back in the day…
glad to hear of hearing it my fiend
…I’m too busy thinking ’bout fish fingas.
…an ah ain’t gat taaarm furnatting els
no worries Rodz, fish fingers can be a tricky meal to prepare
Broon sahhs wins though.
Bveeoosli.
Stanley Jordan just popped in for bucket.
bucket of what?
…bucket of ‘none of your fucking business’
dick
The most awesome band on the planet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67jtMPfdTw&feature=relmfu
Rich, Is that you in the black wig?
Steel Panther are the biatchiz.
I like this also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY
..reminds me of XTC
…which probably makes me gay.
Don’t knock the Steel Panther boys Rodz…. your in dangerous territory there mate
He is an Aussie fella that guy……. does all his music.. really talented.. reminds me more of Sting than anyone else….
…and on that note.
Bum thy neighbour, anal that
.soz Aussie, wasn’t just ignoring you there. You’re one of the only cunts on here I deliberately ignore. What a cunt.
…that’s me aaaaarrda heer.
CUNT FUCKERS
….love you really AMF, you massive shit.
Rodz, if I were a cunt I’d have all your money…
…AND ALL THE WORLD IS BISCUIT SHAPED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqHkgTigqs
boring video… bring back the panther!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pln7nsSbH4
neet neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
(tek care of yasells, and each other
piss off Rodz, don’t play nice now
apparently we are going to announce the signing of……..
Rich, if this ever got made into a movie, you would be a shoe in for the lead part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-7UObXxeI
“not the gut”
Aussie….I remember that one
….would usually not correct someones spelling, unless they corrected themselves incorrectly 
Teams often leave one of their better pen takers until last as that’s often the one with the most pressure…it’s a gamble though as last night proved.
Don’t agree with the theory of strikers going first, being a striker doesn’t mean they’re good pen takers, some of the best have been defenders, even keepers. It’s also about who does well at them in training and more importantly who has the balls to step up to the plate at the time, maybe Carroll did neither or was considered to inexperienced
It was late at night Rich, i was using a virtual key board, it was dark, I was half watching the tele, I was half asleep, so it is easy to spell something incorrectly like jurasic …… ahhh forget it..
Ronaldo also wanted to take the penalty last so he can be the hero of the hour… fecking poser
Aussie…you missed the fact that you’re a drongo off the list of excuses
…that’s exactly what wor lass said about Ronaldo
, nae wonder oils so expensive with that fecker having half the North Sea reserves on his hair 
I agree about the hair, I want my next house to built using that oily shit in his hair in lieu of concrete. That oily shit seems rock solid
What product do you use in your hair Richie? – Mr Sheen
Timotei….’It’s so mild you can wash your hair as often as you like’.
they still make that shit
right got soccer training, be back later to see what abuse has been aimed in my direction.. hopefully Ice will keep it under control
Have ya heard owt more over there about Curtis G? last I heard was he’d be signing for £350k ish.
Aussie…nae idea…and it’s “football training”
well local rag say (they know fk all) that the swedish lad is a no go,anyway ill put it up so richie can pull it to bits
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/06/28/61634-31277645/?
It’s all true Ice….must be, it’s in the “jawnil” like
RICHIE is that footy training in aussie not that egg shaped crap,thought they called the proper game soccer! maybe things have improved over there
Aye they do Ice but they’re wrong so I was correcting him
see ed is running with the jawnil storey,ah well
Thought we we after a CB.
TGS we should be mate,i know we have taylor comeing back thing is hes never played a full season for 5yrs with diff injurys probs,needs to be addressed imo
dave can you write in english cos i cant understand that paddy language that you write in
dog can you tell me what dave wrote plz as i know you understand him
BATTY i just say yes and no and hope i get it in the right place,ive never been to them backward schools
Stoke are signing Ness from rangers after a “stringent medical” the lads had some really bad fitnesss problems in the past, This is on top of Woodgate, Upson and Palacios who have awful injury records and they are after Owen who is as bad if not worse.
If they are prepared to sign them what the fuck is actually wrong with Bas knee, Might be a struggle for his agent(s) finding a willing club to take the risk for £7m and all the other fees on top for someone who is uninsurable…
dog
No news on curtis good I am afraid.. the local press here would be all over it if there was something happening.. they like soccer stories about soccer players.
So;
De jong is off to borussia mgladbach
Anita is staying at ajax
Debucy is off to inter / chelsea
Great journalism journal……….
You know that once the journal or chronicle publish it you may aswell forget about them!
They has as much clue as any of us i suspect.
Gutted about de jong really thought he was coming
Liam, good news or bad news, the papers have no feckin idea.. However I have noticed that people tend to believe the bad stuff more readily than the good.
I think its realism aussie the journos have no clue more credence with sky tbh or even talksport!
Anyone know when the team GB football team will be announced?
Liam @ 262
de Jong to Borussia MG – says who?
M just paper talk mate its on here too
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/german-giants-close-in-on-newcastle-target-de-jong-1-4689313
Cheers Ice – just speculation then at the mo
Hallo Lads
Any news om transfers?
I really would like some good news today..
Something to make my hangover more pleasent.
Nothing at the moment DT, apart from rumours that we’ll send another bid in for Debuchy and that Curtis Good will sign for us at some point.
Curtis Good?
Danish
aussie cb we had on trial a few mnths back. Probs for youth/reserves.
He’s an Aussie 19 year old defender Danish.. had a 14 odd day trial a few months back with Newcastle.. The team needs a bit of culture so he will be a good signing
Beat me to it Floydy
AMF
So there’s not enough BBQs and drinking in Newcastle
Andy Andy Andy, you have the wrong impression mate, sure we have to hunt our own food over here but we don’t bbq everything.
well ill give it another week and we will get all sorts sightings at airport/training ground as per every window,even richie will see them from spain and hes half blind
Ice, Don’t forget the bell boy reports from all the hotels in Newcastle…
AMF
Of course mate
You were right about the drinking tho Andy
AMF
Aye Barnetta’s still trapped at the Jesmond
AMF
AMF we may be down on the bell boys ones,you forgot richie got the bullet they got sick dragging him oot of the kitchen,hence his move to spain
Andy, I was thinking about Barnetta as I was typing that mate
i see BECKHAM left out of olympic squad,thank god for that hes shite imo
Ice
I heard Richie was the doorman but he got fired because no one could get past him to get inside. 
Ice, I can’t believe they would even consider Beckham..We discussed this the other day.. too old and too average.. maybe he has a new book and needs some publicity
AMF thats true as well but i was trying to save face for him,you know we try not to hurt his feelings
Uh-oh
Graeme Bailey @SkyGraemeBailey
Newcastle could be set to lose out on Luuk de Jong with reports in Germany claiming he is set to join Borussia Monchengladbach instead.
I would have quite liked Beckham to be in team GB, he helped to get us the olympics and is a global icon so will attract lots of interest in the team/olympics.
M aye doesnt look good,at least he wont be comeing to PL and stuff us
Ice
yeah was thinking that myself, better he went to the bundesliga than to someone like liverpool or tottenham.
Newcastle play mind games with twente by saying they are now going after the Swedish striker now insted of deJong, so twente return the favour by saying that deJong will now be sold to a german club… your serve Newcastle
AMF said the same mesel the other day,evil minds think a-like
Ice, I always thought you were a smart bloke
DeJong = Gamero – so many parallels with the stories we were being fed last year.. the press find a golden boy to focus on and they run with it.. will sit back and wait and see with all of this.. not feeling like it will happen.
AMF Gamero stuffed up in his choice (if there was one) hardly got a game last year
True Ice, we may have dodged a bullet there, same with Erdinc….
AMF have words with your rags over there,Foxs News reporting C.Good has signed for toon £350000
I reckon the club sends out a few red herrings to keep the press busy.. while they quietly go about their transfer business.. Pardz said we had a couple of players near on wrapped up so lets see what transpires in a few days time when the window opens…
AMF i told you two in this week
Ice, just checked fox sport here and the article quotes info from the Mirror.. so not sure how true it is..
Just watched fox sport news on TV and they are running the story as well
Nothing on the official Newcastle site tho…
AMF offical site is like richie slow on the up-take
Good is a left footer so could he be in line for our troublesome left back slot.. he is a solid lad, so he could physically handle the pl…. not sure if he would be up to speed tho..
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2565/exclusives/2012/06/28/3206696/schalke-reach-agreement-with-barnetta?source=breakingnews
pesky Germans again…
wheres Richie I need him to give me a hand to pull Icedogs knife outta me back, fuk its sore.
.
Batts WTF are you on about you lanky big fuker
As for LDJ well if we fuk about offering daft prices he will end up somewhere else.
dave iam on about that funny language you speak
aye dave it didnt take long for mr dog to turn on you
Ice and Amf;– Re Gameiro and Erdinc stuffing up their choices last year let us not forget Gervinho who preferred Arsenal to us .
Really surprised that Arsenal , having spent £11m on Gervinho , had to spend a further £13m on Giroud this season.
Sadly, we had to make do with Ba and Cisse.
No doubt if we don’t get LDJ we will end up with a better striker.
Ice…not as slow as you 2 feckers, look @247
Dave…they blindsided me, typical keyboard warriors, wait until someones not around to start slagging them
…..that said Aussie will be in his joey pouch so open season on him 
RICHIE aye your on the ball there like.
DAVE that batty useing my nick again,very underhanded imo
mind i have a good reason net and power been down 2 hrs,thundering and lighting,got flooded roads too back on noo but still flood
Ice…Aye, unlike Aussie @261
Batty I didn’t think you would be able to get Ice to turn on me
.
Richie yeah there is some back stabbers about but you know who they are, as for Aussie I didn’t think there was a closed season
DAVE i wouldnt turn on you mate,cannot say the same for some lot of sly gits aboot,even richie stole my avatar y/day,cannot turn your bloody back before some bandit dives in
Ice that explains it then I thought someone had stole your nick because you always watch my back
at 1st I thought it might have been JJ as I know he likes to nick names 
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