Heading out of NUFC?
Pretty much all of the daily national newspapers are reporting the story, which doesn’t mean much granted, but with this one I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
At the end of the day Simpson is in the last year of his contract and is stalling on signing a new deal with the club. This puts him in a dangerous position regarding his future at the club as they won’t want to let him walk away for nothing which means he is likely to move on over the summer if he doesn’t agree to a deal at St James’ Park.
I think some of the treatment that Simpson has been on the end of has been harsh in fairness. I see quite a lot of people calling him greedy and such, but he’s first choice right back at the club currently and has been since our time in the Championship so does he not have a right to seek a better wage? And let’s be honest, nobody knows what kind of wage he is after or what has been offered by the club.
In terms of his ability I also think he has been hard done by. I don’t think he is the most gifted right-back ever and I know he has his flaws, but he also has his plus points and will work for the team. Obviously there are better players available, but remember we only paid £500,000 for him or something daft like that so I think it’s fair to say that he has exceeded what should have been expected from him.
Besides, this is all paper talk anyway so we’ll just have to see what is going on in the fullness of time. I’m just wondering if the stars are starting to align in our chase for Mathieu Debuchy though? Simpson potentially going, Lille lining up a right back in the form of Jose Bosingwa, Alan Pardew saying he expects a signing within 14 days? You never know…
If it is true and Simpson does go he’ll get a warm reception upon his return from me, and I’d like to hope he’d get the same from the vast majority of fans. Love him, hate him, or somewhere in the middle of the two, it can’t be denied that overall he has done a good job for us through the Championship to securing Premier League survival to helping us get back into Europe.
And that shouldn’t be forgotten whatever happens!
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I wonder if Simpson will stand off and then back track all the way to Reading
Sorry just jokes, hope he stays…..
Danny Simpson landed in Germany today for preseason. Id probs take a few million, but on the other hand 846 goal line clearences in 1 season aint bad.
One thing I will say about Simmo is that he played well the other back men… Very rarely did he ever get caught playing a forward onside once the others had stepped up….. It doesn’t sound like much but when you have a ball watching defender it can be disastrous…
oh and then there is those goal line clearances 
lads i will find out 2day..about simpson…no his dad well..will ask him about this..
Another who did a job when a job needed doing. Best of luck to him if he is indeed leaving.
I think he has his shortcomings, but he was decent enough at times.
Hopefully any replacement will be an upgrade.
I thought the deal broke down over how his contract was going to be paid , he wanted it monthly but club wanted to pay him bi-annually ( I think that is the term )
He is not the best rb in the league but he aint the worst by a long shot. Ill be sad to see him go , and wish him the best of luck with all his future endeavours if he does go.
I’m not gonna lie i’m not his biggest fan i think he doesn’t get stuck in when he should and often backs off too much allowing the winger past.
I believe he relys on blocking crosses more than anything and doesnt really attack tbh.
However saying that, we have had no bother with him he always tries his best (even though it may not be good enough) and never had a bad word to say about anyone.
So thanks for that Danny!
In many years of watching Newcastle they have never really had top, top quality full backs apart from maybe David Craig and John Beresford.
Simmo has been one of the best and, as said on here, his criticism has been a bit unjustified.
I stand to be corrected but even if we get Debuchy I don’t think his performances will be that much better to warrant a hefty transfer fee and probably far greater wages than Danny.
In my opinion he was quite entitled to expect more money than was offered.
The lad never gave less than 100% and stayed fit and available for selection pretty much throughout his time here.
He must be mad. . Greed is an awful trait.
talked 2 his dad about it…we offered 25 grand…he wonts 40…he said he is not being greedy its just a average prem wage…
Simpson did a great job for us last season.
Gave 100%.
Sorry to see him go and not fight for his place with Santon.
Sky news saying DEBUCHY deal to NEWCASTLE close to agreement.
Liked SIMPSON gave his all for the team but did have his short falls good luck to him.
I could understand him wanting more cash but if the other club coming in for you is Reading and you aren’t the greatest defender, then I would bite the bullet.
The going rate is what other clubs are prepared to pay for you. Can Reading afford £40k?
Sky Sources: Newcastle close to agreeing deal for Lille & France defender Mathieu Debuchy #SSN
12 minutes ago
http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2012/07/13/3238745/newcastle-interested-in-santon-bojan-swap-deal?
Great servant for the club and a shame they couldnt reach an agreement, however, if the price is what SKY is reporting £5M for him then it is great business and bring in Debuchy for a reported £7M. Thats £2M for a international RB!
Wow. That sounds ridiculous!!
Bojan on his own though? Yes pls.
Re Simpson I feel if we get Debuchy then it’s definitely an improvement. On the right if Ben isn’t on fire then we don’t offer a lot down that side and no doubting Debuchys attacking ability.
At the Euros, him and Cabaye were 2 of the best players for the French IMO
Ridiculous decision guthrie I can understand he will play every game there but although simpson will too he is giving up a season in europe for what?
Massive come down from manu, newcastle to possibly play in the championship again….
@aussie
Have a look at my logic on the other thread. Basics of football.
Is it me or does debuchy look more like a winger than a full back?
Cant we keep simmo too just in case?
done deal well lets hope for debuchy,the lad looked good at the euros
Why on earth would carroll come back to newcastle?
Debuchy and Carroll would be great for us!
Liam Southern Toon says:
July 13, 2012 at 10:17
Why on earth would carroll come back to newcastle?
Maybe he cant get over the language barrier?
Simmo to reading then . Well he did an honest job for us ,not the best but certainly not the worst either ,good luck to him if he goes.
Well we best get Debuchy now then ,hope SSN is right about that .Also see Hoilett off to Germany to chat to Gladbach ,that makes more sense than QPR . Oh and the Dippers have got Borini by the looks of it too.
Johno @24 ,He wouldn’t fair much better with our Frenchies and Africans though.
Liam@20 yes he does like to get forward a lot ,could be interesting and scary in equal measure.
The silly season is certainly in full swing now
I think we have been linked with about 900 players 
Just been rereading Worky’s comparison between Simpson & Debuchey. Totally different players, but both effective defenders. Credit to Simmo. Stats show how good he was defensively. Good luck for the future.
Bigpapa @17 ,I can’t see that happening tbh ,Toon have turned down offers for Santon already and the Bojan thing is far too complex with the 28m euro buy out thing with him ,nah can’t see it .
Aussie@28 ,it’s getting dafter by the day ,I agree .
Considering we paid 1/20th for him compared to Colo, and considering his wages aren’t even half of our captain I don’t really see how people can call him shite or greedy, but there we go.
Personally I thought he was decent, from what many fans say you’d think we conceded down our right in every match, but wasn’t that actually our strongest and the centre our weakest? Okay those stats don’t tell the whole story, but I don’t remember one match where a winger made a fool out of Simmo, unlike say 3/4 of the Prem who went up against Benny…
Would have been a decent squad player to keep around, we need someone through the doors asap if Simmo leaves as we’ll only have Tavernier as back up.
Newkie think we should keep simmo too…. perfect for a squaddie.
Carroll wont be coming back hes not the player we need I dont think especially as it looks as though pards is going to flood the midfield in games we want the ball on the floor and carroll isnt the most technically gifted
Simpson out Dubuchy in. Cross your fingers and toes everybody.
This Debuchy fella better be good.. been a lot of talk about how good he is going to be… I hope it is not all based on his euro games.. I don’t believe there a lot of fans on here that have watched Lille too often… oh well we will see..
Good luck to danny if he is off to reading, Debuchy will look flashier going forward but with him and Benny playing on the same wing it should be interesting when we havent got the ball…
Rumored fee is £5million for Simpson! Be amazing if we got that for the lad but cant see anyone paying that for him esp with him been in last year of his contract
Liam-Exactly…and the season would provide a perfect opportunity for him as it would finally give him some good competition yet plenty of matches to prove himself, all he’s really had is Perch and whilst he’s a decent DM and even CB I really don’t see him as a FB.
I see lee ryders claiming ranger was left in England and that we’re back in for douglass
Goodbye Simpson :-/
Welcome Debuchy
I would snap anyones hand off for Simpson at £5m!
CC@35 agree .
No way Simmo will go for 5m.. to think so and want to snap a hand off for it is sad
Saints are talking to Clyne , wish it was us.
Didn’t our Danny Boy have about 7 goal line clearances?
Just saying…
Stand on goal line… kick the ball away… all it takes for a goal line clearance.. fair call to him for doing as instructed but lets not sugar coat it and say its a great feat… we don’t we praise the posts when they do the same thing
AMF aye your reet,even richie gets nee praise for blocking the walk-way to jabbas outlets
Maybe so, Aussie, but I really can’t remember anybody else having so many. Maybe he’s magnetic!
Howdy, Icer! how’s things?
Hey, is the friendly today televised?
Another snapped rod again!
Hook, line and Aussie!
Not a day goes by ………
You putting on your kangaroo suit Aussie and heading for the main highway into Sidney?
Nice try Troyster… Every time you lose an arguement, you pull out a woo hoo or an aussie cliche’.. argument lost.. 10 nil to Aussie Mag.
Ice
hows things mate, your missus still doing well?
AMF mrs getting better every day thanks,they are saying two of the pre-season games are going to be shown on tv when i get some more gen on it i will let you know
Reading doing some good business there in my opinion. They got Danny Guthrie for nowt, and will now maybe pick up Danny Simpson on the cheap, two seasoned EPL professionals. ffs Danny Simpson was being touted for England not so long back.
Not so sure why people are deriding Reading. They have anew mega rich owner apparently, a new stadium, and are a club who are trying to build something. Good luck to them I say, and to Guthrie and Simmo too if he should leave..
AMF I’ll be in Landsberg for the Monaco game myelf, so you’ll get a full report from me
. ESPN are showing the game too apparently, 19:00 kick of Jaaarman time.
FSOTC ganning canny mate,think you have some work to do
you very kindly got the picture of jabba,he has lost weight a bit now,so maybe we need a new one for the new season 
If we get any money at all for Simmo it will be a bonus. To think of the blokes we have given away for nowt…. Jose, Barton, Guthrie…. also Forster and Best on the cheap….
Pity we cannot give Xisco away for nowt though …
MM – bastard
Sammy’s being a bit of a tease over on Twtitter:
Samuel Ameobi @Sammy_Ameobi
The new home kit is really decent #retro
AMF this is all i can find at the mo mate
http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/two_toon_friendlies_on_tv_749432/index.shtml?
Has big Jabba slimmed down? I didn’t know. Maybe we can have someone photoshop his head onto the Leia slave-girl bikini body!
Cheers Ice, will check it out! !
aussie magpie fan…..
You’re trying to hard ducking and weaving with Troy mate….
thought richie would be finished eating by now,been nee sign of him,unless hes stuck in a door-way somewhere
I love the image of Aussie hiding behind his couch with his head in his hands cringing to himself. ” troys done me again”
Must go to work so fill your boots Aussie.
i see taylor has another injury and wont play in next game,thought to be a hamstring hope so, it does happen after long lay-off
No chance of that Troy
Ice sounds like a typical little hamstring tweak that happens during preseason- bnot the one he hurt previosuly…
MM @52. Agree about Reading
Supposedly there’s a link to the game tonight online. Anyone know anything about it? Also does it start 6.30pm German time or our time?
Has some website said Reading will pay 5m quid for Simpson?
And they expect people to believe that?
I didn’t get to see any of the Euros so didn’t see Debuchy play at all. From what people say he seems to be a forward thinking full back – a bit like Santon maybe?
I wonder if that is an indication of how we’ll be playing – width provided by full backs.
andy.they will show up here near kick off.
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=163910&part=sports
MM
, AV as well would be good and either Fulham or Liverpool 
Aye I like two of the promoted teams this year, want WH to go again though
Cheers hitman
Interesting, just saw that Marriappa’s had a medical with Reading. Maybe he’ll show Mike and Llambias that they should’ve forked up another 500k.
Rangers go into 3rd division then .
BVegas;
I’ve seen Debuchy play six games (all for France) but I have never seen him play as a full back.
France played all their games with a back 3.
When Ben Arfa played he had to provide cover in defence for the missing Debuchy
When Debuchy does sign expect a transfer request from Ben Arfa.
Terry not guilty
Terry ,Not guilty SSN .
Ice,
Apologies for not getting back yesterday,had to go to work.
The auld fella is fine, taking him to SJP to see Brazil v New Zealand as my lad has been selected as an Olympic flag bearer.
@75&76
tgs@77 ,Well done your lad.
Kim,
.
Thanks, aye he has been selected for 3 matches in total. The family are all proud and looking forward to seeing him on the telly as they don’t give any tickets away. So due to work committments we are going to see the Brazil game
How is your boy?
I wonder is Debuchy coming to replace Simpson or actually add on.
if is replacement,i am kinda sad with this kind of policy.
Rangers in the third div? That is crazy to think of a club that size having to start from the bottom , but that is what can happen when a club is ran incorrectly.
Terry not guilty? Im sure his legal team have earned their wedge on that.
Just clicked on hitman’s link. Says its the stream for the monaco game, is tonight’s game online?
TGS@80, he’s not too bad ,been home from day centre for over a week with heavy cold and bad chest but slight improvement I think.
Hope your lad enjoys himself ,it’s once in a lifetime you get to do that sort of thing ,if ever ,what a fantastic thing to look back on when he’s older.
Andy @83
– I found this posted on one of the other blogs:
“Hi guys, for anyone slightly confused the match kicks off at 18.30 in Germany which is 17.30 UK time. You can watch the match on German regional TV here:
http://www.sachsen-fernsehen.de/Zum-Livestream/Seite/
The commentary will be in German but as far as I’m aware it’s the only place streaming the match. Hope that helps.”
Also, the club have recently uploaded these pics of the first training session in Germany this morning:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40191515@N05/show/
heres another link for the match.
http://www.sachsen-fernsehen.de/Zum-Livestream/Seite/
Sidekick @ 74: Thanks for that. Obviously you’re not a fan.
But it suggests a more attacking policy is under consideration.
Can’t say I would lose too much sleep. Debuchy is twice the player. Thanks for everything and good luck.
Thank you Chris
And you again Hitman
TGS well done for the lad,must have got it from his grandad then
Anyone else quite excited for tonight’s match
Must be the lack of football, I’m so bored.
http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/demba-ba-gives-exclusive-interview-in-germany/
http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=2848642
Tonight’s team
I know I’ve missed most of the discussion on Simmo, but I’m bored, so here goes:
I’d like Simmo to stay; I think he plays unspectacular but effective football, works hard and has consistently improved to the point where I think he’ll be a big loss.
And he’s English, which is becoming depressingly rare. I’m sure this Debuchy guy’s great, but I’m starting to feel the need to wear a beret to matches.
Am i the only one who cant get the link to work ??
Whumpie
I know what ya mean, it was one thing to wear a corset but now I feel the need to randomly carry a baguette around
Seems that Sameobi is playing up front either that or Pardew’s taking what he said about playing like Spain too literally.
We’re wearing the new home strip apparently
Oh well id rather eat me own excrement than have lee ryder fill me in on events, Ill watch the goals on ssn later…
anyone have a different link? Neither of those seem to work for me…maybe because I am in the US? Or perhaps because I am at work…hmmm.
1-0 down. Hopefully better than the 6-1 defeat against Leyton Orient a few years back.
None of the links work for me either.
anyone who can watch it could u do this
.
post the path to the video file (if it’s visible from view source). The site can’t handle the load but the video is most likely hosted on another server.
so every poor lads on here can see
cheers !!
aargh ,can’t get links to work either
and we are losing too 
267 i appreciate all help
but….. that might as well of been in fucking japanese lol thanks tho
anyone who can see the link just post updates im donald ducked here
ANy radio links? BBC Newcastle perhaps? I’ll see if I can find something…
Obertan is having a very Obertanesque performance
M, you have a stream or radio commentary or something? Share, brother/sister!
Toonsy good read and have to agree that Simmo isn’t the best but he is miles from being the worst, yet he still seems to get more abuse than most. If he does go good luck to him as he has been an ever present in the team.
I just hope that if he does go we get better as I don’t think potential is good enough in this case.
yeah, i’m on http://www.sachsen-fernsehen.de/Zum-Livestream/Seite/
i got on early, not sure if it’ll work for u
Thanks, M! I’ll give it a try…
BBC Newcastle is sports chat at the moment, but maybe that’s because it’s half time. Are they discussing the game?
So, M & others, aside from the usual Obertannery, what are you seeing so far?
it’s Bigi time!
FSOTC – everyone looks rusty, lots of fouls, lots of offsides, not the greatest of games
Man this sucks, I want information
Also the sachsen-fernsehen link is just loading nothing is appearing on the screen 
x2
Demba and Jonas coming on
Nice, M. What else is cooking?
nowt much
offsides and fouls a plenty though
How’s Vukic doing? I have high hopes for that kid…
rusty
and Shola came on for him 10 mins ago
silky run from Shola ends with a tame shot
Bigi is taking FKs, Amalfitano has been on corners
its been quite some time since i posted. its good to be back.
so excited for the new season. cant wait.
Silky and Shola in the same breath
a bit like chalk and cheese 
Demba relieving Stoke at home last season, chesting a ball he shouldve headed and losing the opportunity to score
re-living*
Sounds like an awful display to me ,typical post hol hangover.
Utah longtime no see mate hows things with you mate
offside again!
FT
to all of u who couldnt watch the game….. u missed nowt of interest
Bring on Monaco, Monday nite on ESPN!
M ,just as I thought
.Hopefully a better show on monday.
things are great.
happy wife check
healthy kids check
steady job check
awsome football club check
Im so looking foward to this year. Every year i support NUFC they get better. hopefully this year is no different.
Ba had 15 min on the pitch against a third division German side and didnt score
, sell him 
Pardew’s a puppet
my bad 
Ashley’s stealing from us again
I bet we’ll be relegated
oh woops I’m twelve months too late
M what kit were they wearing
I agree with Andy! Hit the self-destruct button! Hit the ejector seat button! All hands to the lifeboats, this tub of shit is going down!
M it’s alright mate I just seen it was the new home shirt http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120713/chemnitzer-fc-1-newcastle-0_2281670_2848771?
Dis anyone see the match. Did any of the Kids impress?
i see m/city got beat one nowt too
ICE ,who did they play?
Dave ,that shirt is a bit retro ,don’t you think?
KIM just for you,even though i didnt see the photo
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7898164/Saudis-claim-City-scalp
Thanks Ice.
Kim im not that keen on it they still have them cheap crappy badges and I hate the jacked bits on the stripes
but i’ll still get the wee lad one when they eventually release them.
I was a bit shocked at how racy they were but all done in the best possible taste 
Ice you not seen the rest of kims pics on facebook
i like the new strip i think its nice.
sorry i havnt been doing ya heeds in lads but the hitmans life isnt an easy one
Anyone see this on Sky Sports Transfer Centre:
“According to reports in L’Equipe, Turkish giants Galatasaray have made a €9million (£7.1m) offer for Bafetimbi Gomis, with Lyon prepared to let the striker leave for the right fee. However, France Football reports that Rubin Kazan have offered €8m (£6.3m) and that Newcastle, Sunderland, Stoke and an unnamed German side could also be interested in Gomis, who has two years left on his contract.”
DAVE
the life of a hitman is never easy
you got that reet dave,ive just blew a 10 year marrage for some necta
HITMAN,blame it on some gear somebody slipped you mate
to late for that m8,i was bang to reets in the bed with her
i wish i could show you the lass i can garuntee yous would of jumped
This kit is ok… Bit bland. I really liked like year’s kit. And the championship kit.
Hitman @ 156 nah mate, unless the one I had was no good in that case I would just finish it, and it sounds a bit harsh but if you blew a 10 yr marriage for a bit on the side well then the marriage never really meant that much
HITMAN sorry mate ime 100% with dave,should have looked with your heart nowt else
Dave@148 I see we’ve progressed to facebook
Dear god, City lost to a Saudi side with some starters in the team and their Captain. It may have been a 3rd division German side but theyre still probably better than the Saudi league champions.
Kim
don’t worry what happens on FB stays on FB 
KIM watch that dave he tells batty and richie everything,now me you can trust
Dave ,that’s what worries me
Ice@163 ,Don’t fret ,if he lets me down I’ll just defriend him
Ice @ 163
good try mate 
but Kim knows I wouldn’t say owt
So when do you’s think were going to get a top player through the door
Dave ,I like the Kenny everett ref aswell ,loved that show ,
at the hebe gebees and the Vic with the giant hands .
two quite soon mate
Debuchy medical wednesday I reckon .
KIM and what day for judas
Kim funny enough when I wrote that it made me think about the late great Bowburn mag
Ice what is soon to you ? to me soon would mean a couple of days
but maybe when your in your late 80s soon could mean months 
DAVE and still ten yrs behind you
Kim
Knowing my luck I’ll probably be at work when the signing’s announced
Andymag @ 161 : typical Eurocentric ignorance. And you guys are supposed to be knowledgeable football fans
Vegas, Troy will be on soon to proclaim how knowledgeable he is, you watch
Andy, the Saudi’s are very good players, they are highly paid so they have no need to play in Europe.. some would be very adept in the PL.
Just finished work and gannin to kip. Content in the knowledge I’m very knowledgeable.
The Saudis have 3 teams in the quarter final of the Asian Champs League. No Japanese teams. One Aussie.
However, far from showing that the Saudis are the best nation in Asia, what it does is show that the Saudis are better able to keep their star players (and entice foreign players who used to go to Turkey or Greece).
Japan, who are probably the best in Asia, are in the process of exporting its better players to the European leagues, something Australia has been doing for 20-odd years or more.
World football is pretty fascinating. Life doesn’t begin and end in England, or Western Europe.
Aye, I’m missing having some football to watch.Wish the season would start.
And there’s still another 3 months till th A-league starts again. So have to make do with reliving the past. Not that it was such a good game – how can it be with Perth Glory playing? But the last few minutes were magic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tui4keFJbK0&feature=relmfu
and so were the last few minutes of this one – which was a good game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VLhvRFlnwZk
Sorry for the non-Newcastle clips, but it shows that passion for football exists outside of Europe.
Bloody hell…Troy hasn’t half turned into a nighty night boy…. nighty night Troy, sweet dreams princess
lol chk out baby-faced arfa and his wispy tash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqof0zIDMWs&feature=player_embedded
Nice one Mark…. talk about handbags at 50 paces…..
Brisvegas@178, But we invented it
lol chk him out at 16:42, hes about 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=lh-2EzHfWaQ
Kim
your comment begs the question, as to why british teams are so poor now 
Kimtoon – True, you/we invented the rules to the modern game we all love, not football itself. Football has its roots a couple of thousand years ago. Football also happens in many ways.
I saw some monks in Nepal playing a game of football back in 1973 or 4. That was a kind of ‘keeping it in the air’ game, but they also used the wall. Some were pretty good. And a few years ago in Laos I saw a national championship game of what they called football – which was a bit like footvolleyball with a net about head high. They did some spectacular overhead kicks to get the ball over the net.
But, yeah. The English invented football.
Pity they were shite at inventing tactics
Bris ,Aussie ,you do know I was being ironic don’t you
Things have come a long way since men in medievil times kicked a pigs bladder about or whenever it was. 
Fact is very little asian footie is ever shown in the u.k .
Mark@181
very funny ,I loved it when the curtain was closed.
Vegas, I feel you need to read the book by the english tacticle genious- Troy Stavers. It’s called ‘ football is a simple game – really!’
It is a quick read as it is only one page, with a foreword written by Pootle
I’ve heard about it, Oz. Did Pootle actually write four words? And did they make sense?
I know the four words he’d use : you talkin’ ’bout me?
Vegas
Brisvegas@ We did manage to win a world cup once you know
Look ,you won’t find many English guys who think we have the best football in the world in the PL ,but it’s probably the most entertaining I would say. A large part of that entertainment comes from the foreign element here for sure. We tend to concentrate on European countrys since that’s mostly what gets broadcast ,now and then south American games are on sky . And ofcourse the ACON is now also. It’s not really ignorance as you put it ,I just don’t think it has appeal to British kids in the way ,Spanish ,french ,german and South American footie does as they are where the major players seem to emerge over the years.
I just thought you jumped on Andy a bit ,that’s all by saying “Typical Eurocentric ignorance” You can bet there are plenty of Asian football fans who know naff all about our lower leagues but I would not call them ignorant,It’s just not their thing that’s all .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMSe9caW2Bg
Have you guys seen this before. Abeid doesnt look bad like.
I thought you were being ‘ironic’, Kim. Sounds like you’ve moved on a bit.
Most Asians follow the PL – actually, most of them seem to follow Manchester United, so yeah, I agree, they are ignorant as well.
DJG@194 great stuff ,good track in background too.
Brisvegas@195
Not at all ,just covering young Andys back in his absence. 
Right I’m off to do a bit .
Apologies to Andy. Didn’t mean anything personal. Just that Eurocentric football comments piss me off no end.
But speaking of tactics …
The first international between England and Scotland had England playing a 1-2-7 formation. Subtle, eh? The strategy consisted of kicking the ball forward and chasing it down.
The Scots invented the passing game. The first inkling of modern tactical formations, the 2-3-5 formation, was possibly first played by Wrexham. So England can’t even claim primacy in that.
See Sammy Ameobi has piled the weight on since last season. He must be at least 7 stone now….
Obviously the guinness and Dickman’s pies diet didn’t work 
Monaco next in Landsberg, and I’ll be there wooooo hoooo !!! Anyone know where the toon are staying and training in Munich ???
KIM@193,your not quite right there,there was a team in the north east that won the very first world cup,i know as i played for that team at one time for a while,not when they won it of coarse,but dave would say i did checky fecker
Ice@201
You gotta love my city ,we have managed to allow two marches to take place on the same day. One is the English Defence League the other is Gay Pride
.There are coptors and police everywhere. I just drove past the three Lions pub where hundreds of guys are congregated with there England flags and what not ready to decend on Bristol city centre where they can link up with Gay Pride no doubt 
BVegas @198;
The first England Scotland match was in 1790 and the venue was near Keilder on a field which is now the home of Borders Rugby Club.
Don’t know about the tactics but there were unlimited numbers of players on both sides and England won 2-0.
Eight players died during the game and more died from injuries in the following two weeks.
Sidekick @203
And they say players are hard now 
Interesting fact, sidekick. Didn’t know about that one.
I was thinking more in terms of the modern era. After the rules were codified. 1872 game.
Lol. They’re passionate in Scotland too. Their league’s still shite.
I always talk sense. Like when I said we should play 4-3-3, and we did, and we were instantly better. It was just common sense really.
Something the antipodean contingent clearly lack, as I seem to remember you lot deriding the idea of a change in tactics as being ‘too complex’ to warrant discussion.
You remember wrong.
No, I dont.
But i don’t blame you for being embarrassed, after the way you clowns whinged on about people discussing tactics and telling everyone tactics were too complicated for us mere mortals to understand.
It must have been painful when, like, a couple of weeks later Pardew changed the system and we looked twice the team almost immediately.
The selective memory is interesting.
Dig out the Big Boys Book of Tactics (400 pages, wasn’t it) and have another go at it. Maybe we could find you an annotated version to help you understand it.
Yes, that was part of your straw man argument.
1 nil to Vegas
Ha ha.
Are you being his little cheerleader?
How touching.
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