Back in black, and white?

According to Sky Sports’ North-East transfer mole, David Craig, Newcastle have now officially made an approach to Liverpool to resign Andy Carroll.

Apparently the deal would only be a loan deal for one season initially although it is “understood” that Newcastle may well be looking to make the deal permanent in the future.

As yet there is no indication from Liverpool either way suggesting whether they will accept or reject the bid, but if they did it would be rather humiliating for a club who made Carroll one of the most expensive signings in Premier League history when signing him 18 months ago for a rather handsome £35 million fee.

Carroll is “understood” to be receptive of a move back to Newcastle although I personally don’t like all of this understanding business. Maybe people are putting two and two together and coming up with five? Who knows?

What we do know is that Carroll has struggled since he joined Liverpool and has looked half the player he was when he was with us. It’s only recently that he has started to improve and he showed at EURO 2012 what a handful he can be providing the service is right.

However Brendan Rodgers isn’t exactly know for his style that depends on a big man up top so of course questions will be asked over the future of Carroll. Tippy-tappy football won’t get the best out of him but ultimately that is Rodgers’ philosophy.

It would be quite a remarkable turnaround in truth, almost too remarkable to be true. Mind you it would sort out our search for a striker, even if it was only temporarily.

What do you make of it?

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132 Comments

  1. 1
    hattonbenarfa says:

    What will our team/formation be if we do re sign him? Im not sure where we could fit him in keeping Ba and Cisse happy. I know there is the issue of ACON again this season and injuries etc, but i can’t imagine Carroll coming to sit on the bench in Newcastle rather than the bench in scouseland!

  2. 2
    griff says:

    We would have to change our players to fit Carroll in. Ryan Taylor may be playing with his ability to cross the ball. Who else?

  3. 3
    icedog says:

    TOONSY i agree with richie (for once) did he not play with a big ugly git in graham at his last club,so if true maybe hes not happy with his drinking then ;-)

  4. 4
    Moreno says:

    Young lad. Make a mistake. Come home. You’ll be welcomed by me gypsy boy

  5. 5
    Big Dave says:

    As i’ve said I would have him back tomorrow and if he does comeback it would surly be a clear indication that Ba is going, I can’t see an England No9 coming just to cover for the Acon

  6. 6
    BIGPAPA says:

    I wouldn’t be happy with a loan though as we are just gonna be helping liverfool out.

    All or nothing for me!

    Debuchy and Carroll would be major coups tho!

  7. 7
    Big Dave says:

    Moreno I think his biggest mistake was listening to what some people say was 1 of the best and most loyal captains we have had :lol: :lol: :lol: his best mate greedy fuker tugboat

  8. 8
    icedog says:

    DAVE when judas played that euro game i noticed a couple of nice flicks and runs off the ball that i hadnt seen him do in the past at toon or was that just me :???:
    still think hes a cheating git ;-)

  9. 9
    Big Dave says:

    Bigpapa I don’t think we would be taking him on a simple loan to help the dippers out

  10. 10
    BIGPAPA says:

    I wonder how STaylors feeling right now?

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  12. 12
    Andymag says:

    Ah the grand plan completes at last
    Step1: Train a young Geordie boy to be a striking superstar.
    Step2: Get him to sign a large contract, giving him the no9.
    Step3: Sell him to a stupid club with a stupid amount manager for a ridiculously large fee, pretending like we were horrified that we lost a star.
    Step4: Striker ‘struggles’ to settle in to new club causing most to doubt his abilities, and drag the supposed club down the table with crap performances.{note: make sure that the striker doesn’t score against us, so make sure he ‘dives’ to seem like he’s making an effort when he’s in fact avoiding scoring}.
    Step5: After the manager/new manager gives up hope on him make a offer which is far below what we sold him for. The stupid club accepts and we get our Wunderkind back. :cool:
    Now we’re waiting on step 6 in which with our striker back and new fluid football we win the league. :mrgreen:

  13. 13
    Dubtoon says:

    Thanks dave, a bit out of the swing of things with this changing threads lark ;-)
    I think Carroll would need to be the one starting with cisse/ba changing. Try and keep Ba happy at least until the end of July. Ba and cisse looked good together at times but like playing in the same areas too much and were getting in each others way. Maybe they’ll be working on that in pre season but thats how i saw it last year as 442. Carroll and either of the two would be a lethal partnership. (and i hadn’t forgotten the defending part either :smile: )

  14. 14
    Big Dave says:

    Ice there was a lot we didn’t really notice about his game because of the way Hooters played most of the time Krul had to kick the ball straight up to him and half the time it went to the opposition.
    I was listening to a Lovens interview and they were laughing at the fact he was only allowed to play home games because Hooters didn’t want to play with 2 up top for away games

  15. 15
    BIGPAPA says:

    BiG DAVE

    What i meant was that it doesnt benefit us long term, but tell me why would LIverpool want to loan him ? its obv gonna help them if they do and if he progress’ then he’ll be going back to them so i see it as a no-win situation for us….. if that makes sense

  16. 16
    Big Dave says:

    Bigpapa @ 10 I don’t think Saylor would have a problem because the trouble maker isn’t there to try to push Saylor out anymore, I seen Saylor and carroll with their arms round each others shoulders after the fight

  17. 17
    sam says:

    with debuchys crosses and carrolls heading great match welcome the boy home.

  18. 18
    Andymag says:

    @11
    That’s my formation (kind of) with a few tweaks in the order of players.

  19. 19
    BIGPAPA says:

    good because its a big year for Taylor, He needs to play well.

    Re Carroll there have been a few people on twitter claiming all week that he is coming home so maybe it’s nearly done…..

  20. 20
    geoff777 says:

    yes!!!

    Welcome home ANDY!!!

    Brilliant news, hope it’s genuine and a deal can be done.

    HWTL

  21. 21
    Andymag says:

    Sam
    Cabaye and Hatem can both send it in well and Colo’s pretty nifty at it also.

  22. 22
    BIGPAPA says:

    Q – If he does come and everyone’s fit who plays up front? I would probably still have Ba and Cisse like

  23. 23
    Big Dave says:

    Bigpapa I really don’t believe we would take him just to get him back firing on all cylinder to then send him back again. So I wouldn’t worry about that mate ;-)

    Andy @ 12 :grin: ;-)

  24. 24
    Dubtoon says:

    Big papa – can’t see us doing it without an option to buy. Wouldn’t be worth the risk of unsettling Ba, and no benefit to us long term.
    For what its worth Lee Ryder said carroll knew about it three days ago. Not a fan of him as a reporter but its something i guess. Would indicate carroll is happy to come back if they went ahead and made a formal offer. The problem would be agreeing the deal with liverpool

  25. 25
    icedog says:

    i want a good c/h and willo out then i would be happy ;-)

  26. 26
    kimtoon says:

    Andy @12 You missed a vital part of the plan ;-) Between steps 3 &4 should of been use part of the£35m to buy a clutch of relative unknowns who will become sought after in a year and rise us upthe league. :cool: :grin:

  27. 27
    thecaptain9 says:

    Oh what joy to hear.
    He has one good EPL season. Liverpool panic buy him for an extortionate amount of money.
    We use that money to strengthen the academy and bring in a few, very talented key players. And then we get him back for a loan fee!… And some of you Geordies are not behind Ashley!…
    Come home Andy where you belong. I will cheer my heart out to see you back in Black and White.

  28. 28
    AngelOfDeath says:

    I would prefer he goes to AC milan the other club i support,since they sold thaigo silva and about to sell ibra too. :cry: :cry:

    Carroll would be a direct replacement for ibra height and style. :idea:

  29. 29
    Newkie says:

    The difference in style of play with Carroll and Graham is quite clear though, for a big lad Graham has quite tidy feet-you could compare him with ibrahimovic (obviously not in terms of quality) but graham could finish smartly with both feet, could run the channels and even sit back a bit and play some decent through balls to sinclair and others, but Carroll is very different.

    We either played five in midfield or used Shola to try and do the pass work up front because he actually can and to be honest, Carroll really can’t. He’s got a great left peg and he’s a menace in the air, but I just can’t see how he would fit. He’d be as far back in the pecking order for us as he is with Liverpool imo. We had some great memories such as the hattrick vs villa, geordie no.9 and all that, I just hope people don’t want him back for the sentimental value. Just like he didn’t give a toss about us, I don’t want to throw the lanky tit a bone just because he’s having a hard time. Don’t get me wrong, I do feel bad for him somehow, but do I want him back? No, not really. :???:

  30. 30
    kimtoon says:

    Iread on a rumour site the other day that someone had heard he’d told people he’d be back at Toon by the end of the month but I thought it was idle gossip tbh.

  31. 31
    Andymag says:

    Damn Kim I knew I missed a vital part ;-) , though I thought it might’ve been implied with the “more fluid football” comment :grin:

  32. 32
    3hourswasted says:

    BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport
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    Johno Toon says:

    Regardless of who the player is if Pardew feels a player will improve his team and is within budget I fully support the player coming in. In Pards I trusts.

  34. 34
    Munich Mag says:

    Am undecided on Carroll coming back to be honest. Unless there are shenanigan’s behind the scenes with Ba. We have Shola as back up ffs… ;-)

  35. 35
    icedog says:

    MM you love to shove the shola thing in,go get sober :lol: :lol:

  36. 36
    Munich Mag says:

    Andy Carroll doesn’t fit with Brendan Rodgers. Brendan Rodgers doesn’t fit with Liverpool. Fact.

  37. 37
    kimtoon says:

    Ice ,in reply to@117 last thread ,no not arrived yet.

  38. 38
    Munich Mag says:

    Ice…you know that mate, Shola is a legend in my eyes, just for his exploits against the makkems alone… :lol: :lol:

    I tried this sober lark, but I didn’t like it much… ;-) ;-)

  39. 39
    Newkie says:

    I’m not even sure Carroll would be that much better than Shola as an impact playe :shock:

    As a starter obviously but fr 20 odd mins, is there much difference? Maybe if we were all over a team with corners and free kicks, but otherwise?…

    Ooooh controversial ;-)

  40. 40
    icedog says:

    KIM for christ sake it will be oot of date time it comes,toonsy slacking again,not good enough imo

  41. 41
    Big Dave says:

    MM @ 36 I still don’t think Rodgers will get the BIG players to do what he wants and he will have to include them in everything, a bit like the way we were when Hooters was coach and Tugboat was running the show along with the other senior players on his committee ;-)

  42. 42
    Munich Mag says:

    Big D….Clark has moved from Liverpool, and I think he is a good man to have in the background. Rodgers will have to hit the ground running, otherwise the Liverpool supporters will be on his case pdq.

    I’d rather be in our position than there’s at the start of the new season… ;-)

  43. 43
    Stuart79 says:

    Think we may miss out on him as I would assume Liverpool would prefer to sell and a club like West Ham would probably offer to buy him as they’ll be desperate for a big forward to play in Sam’s team.

  44. 44
    Munich Mag says:

    Stuart79, you could be right there , and his big mate is down there too.

  45. 45
    Andymag says:

    3HW
    If thats true then its a shame but understandable. Must have seen my comment on the grand plan, knew I’d published it too soon :x

  46. 46
    Big Dave says:

    MM @ 42 I think he was the main reason they didn’t slide any lower

  47. 47
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Looks like this only the beginning of negotiations and gonna run and run until 31 August. Liverpool don’t want a loan deal.Understandable from them, have him play for a rival club and pay part of his wages just doesn’t make sense.

  48. 48
    Andymag says:

    They might be stupid enough to accept 14m+ Nile Ranger for Carroll :twisted: , two birds, one stone with that one.

  49. 49
    toonsy says:

    Ice/Kim – Panic not. Its being sorted. Im doing it myself as it would appear the chaps offer was not exactly as he described it ;-)

  50. 50
    Nobby says:

    Ashley out!
    Sack the board!

    Apologies, I’ve just taken some funny pills and was transported to 2010.

    We love pards!
    Obertan is shit!
    Mike Ashley is skinny!

    Oh great…. Those pills have worn off.

  51. 51
    3hourswasted says:

    It ain’t over until the fat lady sings though. Even the clowns at Liverpool would never accept the first offer. Maybe it’s all just a smokescreen to show FC Twente we have other options than DeJong and get the price down – just a thought like

    At the very least it might unsettle Andy and he could put in a transfer request – ” I never wanted to leave Liverpool I was forced out” LOL

  52. 52
    Nobby says:

    Just joking about oba! Love him really x.

  53. 53
    Nobby says:

    Genuine estmations here? What do you think Carroll is genuinely worth?

    I’d say about 10-12 mill?

  54. 54
    Big Dave says:

    Andy @ 48 they might be daft and accept 14m + Nile Ranger for Carroll :grin: or we could even stretch to £16m to get them to take Strolla

  55. 55
    Big Dave says:

    3HW I wouldn’t waste my time on LDJ he has no intentions of coming to us

  56. 56
    lacedaemonian says:

    His new agent Mark Curtis is a twat. I always blamed him.

  57. 57
    Nobby says:

    I agree with 33 year old Stuart. He’s Most likely west ham bound, I wonder what brand of football big Sam would like to use Carroll for … Hmmm…. Perplexing :???:

  58. 58
    lacedaemonian says:

    Mark Curtis also represents Big Sam and Tug Boat……………………….

  59. 59
    Nobby says:

    In case my sarcasm didn’t come over in text…. I know exactly what brand of football.

    I’m on my honeymoon for the first game of the season, shit! I almost called it off

  60. 60
    Andymag says:

    Speaking off Shola, he’d get very few minutes if Carroll was to come back, that is unless Demba goes, in which case we may see him on the pitch more often given the amount of games and Carrolls injury record.

  61. 61
    Newkie says:

    Nobby-

    Working out what a footballer is worth nowadays is virtually impossible because of how teams like City, Chelsea and PSG approach the market.

    I mean, we bought Cisse for 9mil, so in that stance Carroll is worth about 4mil. But then liverpool bought Carroll for 35mil, so in that sense Cisse must be worth about 50…

    I suppose realistically he’s worth about 20mil with Carroll at about 10

  62. 62
    hattonbenarfa says:

    What number shirt will Carroll wear? 35?

  63. 63
    Munich Mag says:

    Nobby@59…that’s bad planning mate… :sad:

  64. 64
    Nobby says:

    I can’t believe joey Barton hasn’t been sold yet. I can’t see mark Hughes getting on with him

  65. 65
    Andymag says:

    Nobby
    What the wedding or the honeymoon? :lol:

  66. 66
    Andymag says:

    Nobby
    What you reckon we should bid for him? ;-) we will need him for Carroll. Suprised that Dalguish didnt sign him :lol:

  67. 67
    Newkie says:

    Andy-Shola is a good professional though so he’d not be whining. I guess people will say he’s lazy and will just pick up his money, but there’d be plenty of Euro and cup matches for him to play-esp given that he was behind Bestie last season as well and we still needed him.

    Plus we need him for the mackems…wrap him in cotton wool and unleash him in the derbies! :mrgreen:

  68. 68
    Nobby says:

    Munich… Aye. Although in my defence I just nodded and went along with it. That’s how my life is going to be from now on isn’t it?

    Me father-in-law-to-be is happy mind, he gets my seat for the spurs game.

    Hopefully its on the telly in meh-hee-co

  69. 69
    Newkie says:

    And who on earth would buy Joey Barton now.

    Or has he reformed..again? :lol:

  70. 70
    Nobby says:

    No andy… I wouldn’t be surprised if Sam sticks an offer in for Barton though.

  71. 71
    Andymag says:

    Newkie
    I personally believe Hughes brings out the worst in him ;-) , Im sure he’s just misunderstood :???: . What’s the bet that he’ll be off to Norwich? :lol:

  72. 72
    Nobby says:

    Lol@ newkie

    Reet, early night for me. Xx

  73. 73
    Nobby says:

    Norwich could be a good call actually

  74. 74
    Big Dave says:

    Nobby @ 64 well its now in his contract that if he mucks up again its instant dismissal :grin: I can’t see him moving on from QPR I think he’s getting ready for his after life now ;-)

  75. 75
    Porciestreet says:

    Sign him back on as a centre Half and tell him he don’t leave the box. Still a judas for me. He’s baulking at the opportunity so sod him. Would Alan Shearer
    have even considered doing what he did, not f88888g likely. Stay with the poxy skip scroungers. HWTL.

  76. 76
    Wellington says:

    Supposedly, Carroll wants to stay at Anfield but could accept being loaned out. Rodgers is looking to be rid of Andy permanently. The theory is that we’re in for a loan-with-option-to-buy arrangement, as a compromise.

    As for where he’d fit in? #3 in the striking order, obviously. But with Ramadan, the ACoN, and wear & tear, that still means a fair bit of game time. (Best had 16 starts in the League last season, Shola 6.)

  77. 77
    kimtoon says:

    Toonsy@49 ,like I said in email ,it should not be down to you though .It’s not your fault the guys a welsher. :sad:

  78. 78
    kimtoon says:

    Looks like it’s not gonna happen now anyway.

    Been on the football Transfer rumour site /Dippers page and there Ed is saying Cisse is really pissed off with Toon over the Olympic thing but Toon won’t sell him. :roll: does this mean we have an unsettled player now?.

  79. 79
    Big Dave says:

    Kim @ 78 I really don’t think Pards would stop him if his heart was set on it. Pards has said before that no manager should stop a player playing for their country as it such an honor, and in most cases he would suggest a player to their country if he thought they were ready :?:

  80. 80
    Wellington says:

    Kim, the regular press are just carrying Pardew’s remarks about Cisse – “He’s probably very disappointed, but we’ve got to protect this player.” I think it’s a storm in a teacup.

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    hitman says:

    the dippers have knocked it back,so the judas can jog on..

  82. 82
    kimtoon says:

    Guys I hope so ,would hate an unhappy Cisse. :roll:

  83. 83
    Stuart79 says:

    Nobby – Not quite 33 yet! ;-)

  84. 84
    Wellington says:

    Kim: “You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.” :mrgreen:

    Hitman is right on the loan deal – the Liverpool Echo is reporting that it was dismissed out of hand, didn’t have an option to buy, and that only a transfer offer will do.

  85. 85
    Sharpy17 says:

    The jury is still out for me like.

    Pardew keeps going on about the team spirit being a big part of our success but I think young Andy could unsettle that a bit, even if he didn’t mean or want to. All the talk would be about him, as it was at Liverpool, if he plays and doesn’t score or if he’s not selected he’s been dropped.
    For me, leave it in the past and get new fresh faces in with no complications.

  86. 86
    Newkie says:

    It would be a backward step for me. He wouldn’t improve the first team-and right now that’s still what we need. A centre back, a full back-possibly two and another winger or striker who can play out wide.

  87. 87
    DJG says:

    http://www.cfcnet.co.uk/2012/07/15/will-chelsea-now-re-iterate-their-interest-in-danny-simpson/

    This guy reckons Danny Simpson would be a bargain for £2M and is solid at the back and ‘good going forward’. :)

  88. 88
    Newkie says:

    I’m actually really surprised by the amount of people that want him back, both on here and on ed’s :???:

    Still, i guess when we haven’t actually bought anyone in then we’ll take what we can get.

    Carroll is like finding a fat bird at the end of the night :razz:

  89. 89
    Newkie says:

    DJG-Compared to Bosingwa, Simpson is as solid as a rock :mrgreen:

  90. 90
    kimtoon says:

    Wellington @84 :lol: ;-)

  91. 91
    Wellington says:

    Newkie, I don’t see anyone saying that AC is going to come in and be the main man. He’d be a replacement for Best – it’s more like pointing your ugly mate towards a fat bird. ;) But as the deal’s off, Sammy Ameobi will be our next messiah. :D

  92. 92
    Big Dave says:

    Newkie you don’t get many fat birds as an England No 9 ;-)

  93. 93
    kimtoon says:

    Newkie@88 :lol: Not a chubby lover then ;-)

  94. 94
    Newkie says:

    Wellington-Aye but a replacement for best at something like 15mil at least you’d imagine, does that seem like value for money? We’ve got money to spend and we should spend it…just don’t feel its the right deal.

    Dave-true enough, but watching him swan dive at SJP was like a fat bird falling down the stairs, plus he’s still got that greasy pony tail…too many similarities if you ask me :mrgreen:

  95. 95
    Newkie says:

    Kimtoon :razz:

    I’m just your average Newcastle fan I guess…hope for the best, but I’m pragmatic when necessary… ;-)

  96. 96
    Sharpy17 says:

    DJG – Simpson would be a fucking steal at £2m IMO :shock:
    I’d be sick if we lost him for as little as that. The kid did well for us last season and is certainly worth more than £2m like.
    You may not rate him, but statistically he was a top performing defender last season, so should be valued at more than the compo for Clyne who not PL experience at all but will make Palace around £3m

  97. 97
    Newkie says:

    Sharpy-I’d agree with ya, but I cba to get into the simmo debate again. Hopefully we’ll keep him and get Debauchy, but after so long in the first team i’d be surprised if he’d be willing to sit on the bench.

  98. 98
    Wellington says:

    Newkie – the latest on the Carroll situation is on the Liverpool Echo here: http://tinyurl.com/7w45boe But the short of it is that the deal’s off, and it never involved a transfer bid or option.

    I’d still like to see one more forward in, but strengthening the defence is a higher priority. So long as (say) Debuchy & Douglas come through the door and nobody important leaves, it will have been a good window.

  99. 99
    Newkie says:

    Wellington-Fair enough, I guess we were testing the waters and Liverpool are still looking for something more permanent. I’m sure there’ll be more to it as there’s plenty of time left..certainly the papers will be all over it..Maybe we were just kicking up a shitstorm to cover our tracks as we go for someone else? ;-)

  100. 100

    Berbatov is available for 5 mill, according to Ferguson. I know he’s not in our usual transfer policy, but wouldn’t his silky skills better match what Pardew’s doing? Probably too expensive on the wage bill anyway…

  101. 101
    Wellington says:

    FSOTC – Michael Owen is also looking for a club. :roll:

  102. 102

    Yeah, but Michael Owen is shite.

  103. 103
    Newkie says:

    Would love Berbatov for 5mil but we wouldn’t pay the wages and he’d not be worth anything so it would be against ashley’s “ethos.”

    Shame really, he’s great to watch and its actually a shame he rarely gets a game anymore

  104. 104
    Newkie says:

    Yeah Owen can fecking do one. :evil:

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    AndrewT says:

    I would accept Carroll coming back if it weren’t a straight loan. He would obviously be 3rd choice and behind HBA in the pecking order as well. Giving him the 35 shirt would be huge in saying that he needs to prove himself all over again. And no effing way would we pay him the wages he gets over there!

  106. 106
    USAToon says:

    Love this. Would love to see him come back – though as I’ve seen elsewhere here, wouldn’t do it if there weren’t some provision to allow for a permanent stay.

  107. 107
    Nobby says:

    He can come back if he gets a haircut

  108. 108
    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    On the Carroll Deal : classic Ashley if this deal comes off….. sell the product high and once it has been devalued, buy it back on the cheap… He did it with his shares and made a fortune… you can say what you want about him but he is shrewd fecker when it comes to a deal ;-)

    On Carroll himself: Not fussed if the lanky streak of pelican shit comes back or not. Not sure how he will fit in tbh….. :???:

  109. 109
    Robert says:

    Think this is belated news of events that have gone on behind closed doors last week as Pardew hinted in interview, things will have progressed even further now and i can see a compromise being reached as both clubs and the player want it to happen.
    I hated what he did when he tried to get Krul sent off, but now there is a good chance of him coming back, I would love to see him back in a black and white shirt, he should never have left in the first place.
    Dalglish never played to his strengths, Pardew can get the best out of him, and we get a proven striker instead of a risky foreign signing.

  110. 110
    Sharpy17 says:

    Think Liverpool will want to sell Carroll like. They seem to make bad buys then loan them out, which still costs them money and clogs up their players registered list. Aquadoodle and Cole are 2 perfect examples and they will not want Carroll to become another.

    Regarding Berbatov – he’s leaving Man U coz he’s not getting a game! Why would he come here to not get a game either?!

    AMF – agree 100% both about Ashley and about Carroll.

  111. 111
    Troy Stavers says:

    @aussie

    Another clueless statement from you. ;

    On Carroll himself: Not fussed if the lanky streak of pelican shit comes back or not. Not sure how he will fit in tbh…..

    Well done Aussie :roll:

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  114. 114
    hitman says:

    Carroll has told his representatives a simple message: “Take me home.”. Wow.

  115. 115
    richietoon says:

    Hitman…He’s often told them that, usually with slurred speech and bloodshot eyes :lol:

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  117. 117
    Troy Stavers says:

    Old cutting;
    Carroll told the Newcastle Evening Chronicle on Tuesday: “[Managing director] Derek [Llambias] asked me to hand in a transfer request, so I was pushed into a corner and had no choice. I wasn’t wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money.
    “Then I flew down in [owner Mike Ashley's] helicopter. I didn’t want to leave. I’m gutted that I wasn’t wanted at my home team after everything I have done and the progress I have made. I didn’t want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn’t want to leave. The players, staff and fans were fantastic.”
    At 2.37pm GMT on Monday, Carroll told Wraith he was “not going anywhere”, but by 5pm Carroll had said: “They have kind of said we don’t want u but want me to say I wanna go. And I said I don’t want to go.”
    Newcastle claimed that they accepted Liverpool’s £35 million offer after the striker handed in a transfer request, but Carroll said: “No I didn’t that’s what I mean that’s what they wanted me to do and I said no. They said they wanted to accept it.”
    Asked if he had no choice but to move to Anfield, he replied: “Looks like it.”
    Wraith then asked Carroll if he had “any message you want put across to the fans?” Carroll replied: “They said they wanted the money. Gutted to be leaving Newcastle but I was kind of pushed out the door. Gutted to be leaving my home club but I was practically told to go. Didn’t want to leave that’s why i signed a five-year deal.”

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    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    Troy says,
    On Carroll himself: Not fussed if the lanky streak of pelican shit comes back or not. Not sure how he will fit in tbh…..
    Well done Aussie

    Thanks Troy, finally some positive feed back :mrgreen:

  119. 119
    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    Troy @ 117…. fecking get over it mate….. :???:

  120. 120
    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    we had a messiah returning and now a prodigal son…. wonder if it will work out as well :shock:

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    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Troy @ 117 – precisely why I cant ever see carroll returning to the toon.
    Forget money or wages I just cant see how it would be justified.

    Chronicle make me laugh really ”close pal” :roll:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    Despite what clueless Aussie says, I would love to see him back at the Toon.

  123. 123
    Liam Southern Toon says:

    Would BA, cisse and carroll even work?

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    CC says:

    I wish him every misfortune possible when he plays for them but i watch back the goal at arsenal, The hilarious bullying of turner in the 5-1, The Villa hattrick and i think it could work again.

    He is a £10m pound player they paid £35m for so they can ask for as much as they want but i cant see them getting more than £15m for him, Whether we are willing to pay that, They are willing to take that and he is willing to take £50k-£60k a week and performance bonuses is unlikely.

    Still doubt it will happen and to be honest im more interested in seeing Debuchy confirmed…

  125. 125
    JJ says:

    “According to Sky Sports’ North-East transfer mole, David Craig”

    Well that just about discredits everything in this article.

    Don’t really want Carroll back. If he did come back, he’d have to accept that he isn’t the main man and would be third choice in the pecking order for me.

    Also wouldn’t value him any higher than 8million. Liverpool might have paid 35mil that that was just stupid. Even at his best and most sellable he was never worth half that.

    I’m not saying he is a bad player, I’m just saying he needs a team built around his style of play and we have moved beyond hoof ball.

    No… Thanks Andy, but I don’t want you back.

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    JJ says:

    Troy @122,

    In fairness, I think most of us agree Aussie is far more knowledgable in footballing tactics than you are. So despite your charming character – I’m going to have to go along with the Aussie (can’t believe it) on this one.

    I’d maybe take Carroll for 7-8mil and 40k wages… Which will never happen. But he’s just not worth more than that. We could get far better if we paid more.

  127. 127
    JJ says:

    “Carroll told the Newcastle Evening Chronicle on Tuesday: “[Managing director] Derek [Llambias] asked me to hand in a transfer request, so I was pushed into a corner and had no choice. I wasn’t wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money.
    “Then I flew down in [owner Mike Ashley's] helicopter. I didn’t want to leave. I’m gutted that I wasn’t wanted at my home team after everything I have done and the progress I have made. I didn’t want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn’t want to leave. The players, staff and fans were fantastic.””

    We should all be thanking Ashley for pushing Carroll out the door, it was his best move to date. Paid for a far better squad and helped the bin dippers have a disasterous season… Ashley deserves a medal.

    Nothing personal, just good business. :lol:

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    I Love Mike says:

    tell you what’s doing my head in, how according to the media, as well as us fans, every possible transfer in marks the end for another player. Anita in, Tiote out, Carroll in, Ba out.

    Is it not possible we’re just attempting to build a half decent squad?

  130. 130
    JJ says:

    Mike,

    I’d say with it all depends on the ACN. I really don’t see Ba and Cisse going over because they’d have to beat the Ivory Coast to qualify and the Ivory Coast have an incredibly powerful team.

    If we got a striker in, he would be no more than backup or used in rotation. Do you think we’d fork out 12mil for that? Which is why I think the De Jong and Carroll rumours are both bullshit.

    I think we went to Holland to wrap up the Douglas deal and he’ll join us in August.

  131. 131
    aussie magpie fan says:

    I agree with JJ :-) all posts…..

  132. 132
    Troy Stavers says:

    @JJ

    No one is arguing it wasn’t great business for the Toon. :shock:

    The purpose was to give you Carrolls viewpoint.

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