Pardew tells Liverpool to cut their losses
I’ll quote it all below, but essentially what Alan Pardew is saying is that Liverpool won’t recoup what they paid for Andy Carroll, and I don’t think anyone in a sane frame of mind would be able to deny that.
The reaction from a fair amount of Liverpool fans is that Alan Pardew should not be saying such things, with some even likening his comments to something Harry Redknapp would do, or, if we cast our minds back a little bit further and take off any red tinted glasses that may still be being worn, what Liverpool might have done with Andy Carroll (who knew what terms he was going to be offered prior to asking for a payrise at Newcastle and used an agent hired by Liverpool to conclude the deal, allegedly) or Jose Enrique, who if you recall was a “done deal” months before the transfer was finalised leaving Enrique to play crap for the remainder of his Toon career.
Anyway, this is what Pardew had to say, and what has caused some of the reaction amongst Liverpool fans:
“John Madejski used to say to me about certain players, ‘Just wipe your nose and move on’, and I think Liverpool are going to have to do that with Andy. I think it was obvious as soon as Brendan went into Liverpool that Andy’s time was going to have to be somewhere else. I think it’s quite right we’re involved in that.”
“Whether he comes here is something that I will take or I will leave. It’s a lot of money for Mike, although we’ll obviously be getting a big upside in terms of what we sold him for, and we’ve got three great strikers here already. But of course as the manager, I want the best players I can get.”
I’ll ask again, what is actually wrong with that?
I mean this wouldn’t have come about but for the comments of Andy Carroll’s own manager who pretty much put him in the shop window. The problem is the shop window is full of damaged goods that only might come good again.
At the end of the day we’ve bid, and we’re still in for him according to Pardew himself, which is why he is being asked questions by journalists and why he is answering them, in my opinion, truthfully.
Anyone see a problem with that?
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We said lastnight after listening to the pards interview, that he made a big mistake in talking about what the dippers should or shouldn’t do with Carroll.
We might agree with what he’s saying but he shouldn’t have came out and put it on record, as it’s the samething that sloppy chops done and got blasted by most of us for coming out and talking about our player.
nah he should be using the same mushroom management that Houghton excelled in
Agree Dave , he is right in what he was saying but I dont think any of us would like one of our players been talked about like that in the press so the bindippers have a right to be pissed off.
I was bemused when I read it , one because it IS similar to “Arry” and Ba , and WE didn’t like that , and 2 It is calculated to make Pool dig their heels in , on price or loans or dealing with us .No-one likes having their noses rubbed in it .
Premandup Do you mean Chris Hughton . Or who is Houghton?
i agree with DAVE@1 we shouted on enough when arry kept opening his gob on a lot of matters re players he wanted or liked blah blah,but it alright for pardew to say much the same,fk two faced comes to mind.
i see daves tugboat is telling carroll to come to w/spam now theres a shock
A fifth place finish and you guys wouldn’t stop wasting our ears. Hopefully NUCF doesn’t get relegated this season, like they were a few seasons ago. It happens all the time, one good season counts for nothing.
Johno if he was asked about Carroll he could simply have said yes we are interested in him and atm lambastad and co are working on it etc, then he is asked what the dippers should do etc, a simple Thats for them ‘ the dippers ‘ to decide and its not my place to sugest what they should do with their player.
Again this is no difference to sloppy coming out and talking about Ba when he was asked about him by a reporter.
Agree…with Dave about Pards and no idea what Jak is talking about or who NUCF are
Thats is Dave at 7 , we didnt like it at all with Arry and Ba. I dont remember Pardew doing this before and hopefully he doesnt do it again.
Jak @ 6 Yeah that NUCF is getting above their stations arent they? I do love the NUCFblog
Guess it’s true but he shouldn’t be stirring it up, makes a deal harder to negotiate now.
I think the difference here is that Liverpool clearly want rid of Carroll, whereas Redknapp used to talk about players (such as Demba Ba) who were settled and valued by their clubs.
Richie I don’t think Jak know’s what he is talking about.
That’s the downside to school holidays, we end up getting them coming on here a talking in tongues
What question was Pardz asked? ??
Speaking as a NUFC fan who’s been won over by Pardew this season, I’d say it was definitely a mistake. Pards talks to the press too much for his own good, and I hope it all doesn’t come back to haunt him.
That being said, he was only stating the obvious. The problem is that Liverpool fans would want at least £20 mill for him, because a) that’s already a big step down from what they paid and b) they could bring in a decent striker to replace Carroll with that amount of cash. The problem is that he’s simply not worth that. Some clubs might be willing to pay as high as £15 million for him, but in all honesty the way he’s played last season he’s only worth £7.5 million in my humble opinion.
Right now Liverpool are like all those homeowners who got caught out by the property bubble, they paid top dollar for Carroll when the market thought he was only going to get better. Now that his value (and league form) has plummeted, they are holding out for an offer that would allow them to save face & reinvest. The problem is that’s simply not realistic, even if it wasn’t Pardew’s place to say it.
Pardew seems to be stretching the limited intelligence of NUFC to the limit. I wonder if he has had a book read to him!
It’s just his opinion really. He’s been asked his views on the subject by a journalist and he’s answered honestly.
He ain’t said anything anyone doesn’t know already, so to compare it to Floppy-Chops’ infamous Demba Ba ‘clause’ quotes (and the like) is just daft. The truth hurts. Liverpool fans will be pissed off because they’ve been made to look mugs by the owners. It’s got fuck all to do with Pardew’s comment.
The whole world knows Liverpool were insane to pay £35m for Andy Carroll. They also know Liverpool will get nowhere near that if they sell him, I doubt they’d get more than £15m tops, especially after not even playing the bloke (or playing him in an ineffective formation) for a whole season. His market value at the moment is probably nearer £10m.
Bottom line is, of course Liverpool need to cut their losses.
A football is also round.
Tom… there are differences as in we’re reportedly actually trying to sign Carroll but I still don’t think it’s right coming out and publicly saying what another club will have to do in regards to one of their players, even if it is true and common sense imo.
Sorry, I disagree with the critism. Pards was asked a question about a player who we have bid for. He has not come out and talked about a player where their is no ongoing dialogue. Comparing him to Harry is nonsense and furthermore it is not even in the realms of Liverpools own behaviour around our players as highlighted by Toonsy in the article. Pardew is our manager and has behaved honourably. FFS it’s stupid getting on the back of our own manager for what, a harmless comment?
Regardless of what happened with enrique, it’s not pardews place to speak for another teams manager saying it was obvious straight away that AC would have to leave when BR came in. Maybe after a few months of him being in the team but BR hadn’t even seen him in training yet.
Aussie if you go back to the last thread Ice has a link to the interview, don’t know what comment no but it was around 10 pm ish
If we turned this around and Brendad was talking about one of our players we wouldn’t be too chuffed no matter how right Pardew is.
In truth I think Pardew always answers all questions as honestly as possible which comes over as over confidence sometimes.
On Carroll, Liverpool should just cut their losses as if they hold onto him until jan he might be only worth 8-10million.
Either way if we don’t get him it’s no big deal as Cisse and Ba have more to their game and lets not forget the mackem slayer who pardew is worried might be involved in a mega bid from a top team
Don’t think Pards should be telling Liverpool anything. I also don’t think we are actually interested in bring Carroll back despite what the media or Pards say… We are simply rubbing our rivals noses in it and unsettling one of their stars.
Still unnecessary. If we could have Carroll for 13mil or Rely for the same price, I’d much much much prefer Remy.
I see Nolan has apparently advised Carroll to go to Wet Spam… Haha that’s hilarious.
yeah gota think this was a mistake by Pards, its not up to him to tell other clubs what they should do with thier players or tell the player they should move on
If another clubs manager said one of our players should move to further thier career or tell the club we should accept a low fee we’d be going mental on here
Prem @18 i know im not getting on his back as you put it and i imagine most others arent either. Its not slamming him or a major criticism, just something i’d rather not see
Cheers BD… just read it… it doesn’t actually state what question was asked… I think Pardz should be cut some slack.. if he was giving an honest answer to a legit question, then no foul in my eyes.. The Carroll deal must be dead in the water for him to say that tho…
He doesnt want carroll just doing what liverpool did to us unsettle players…. liverpool did it for enrique and carroll so they can get stuffed.
Its all too public and unecessary for NUFC and I think its a distraction personally
As a Liverpool fan, can i just say that its really refreshing to see some of Newcastles biggest fans agreeing with what we (well, i can’t speak on behalf of all reds) thought when we saw the comments.
I hold my hands up that yes, in recent years we have not always endeared ourselves to other clubs in terms of how the media has been handled (Rafa and Kenny weren’t all that great in front of the press, sadly, for one reason or another) but it disappointed me to hear Pardew go on record with what he said.
Theres no denying we paid too much for Carroll, but also i think a lot of reds would agree that he was finding some form but physically and technically towards to the end of last season so id be disappointed to see him leave now. It would also equate to a huge loss as we know, so id like to see Rodgers come out and state what his plans are before long.
Anyway, i just wanted to applaud you guys with words, as i doubt the Chavs or Mancs would have such level heads when it comes to their own club. I have nothing bad at all to say about Newcastle as our clubs have many ties in some form (Keegan, Terry Mac etc) so always wish you guys well and the above comments were refreshing to read. All the best for the season.
Jay (Southern Red)
AMF – as much as we’d all enjoy him come out and say llambias is a pr*ck though if asked the question, sometimes its not the smartest thing to do
so because we are interested in Carroll it makes it right ?
so whats the difference
So how do we know sloppy chops wasn’t interested in Ba ? After all he was asked a question by a reporter and he gave his opinion
Who are the bindippers? is that supposed to be an insult? when Margeret Thatcher said she wanted a classless society i didn’t realize it started and finished in Newcastle! oh, i think its out of order for the club that sold us the player to condone Pardews comments, disgusting! ever heard of diplomacy? no class!!
There was a lot of support shown for joey when he was ‘speaking the truth’ about Newcastle via twitter… to me Pardz is speaking the truth and he is getting slammed for it.. either speaking the truth is a good thing or it isn’t..
So….just to be clear, as many have said on here in the past, the club policy is supposedly to walk away from transfers if made public…but when when our club not only talk about it but tell the other club what they should be doing then it’s ok?…..glad I cleared that up then
Thanks for your sensibility SR, please take Jak back with you
Regardless of all this I think liverpool would be cutting off their nose to spite their face if they held out for 20m if rodgers thguht he could improve the team by bringing in another striker for say 14m. Have to forget about the initial price and improve the team
Aussie….so you agreed with “arry” then as he was only telling the truth?
Joey was a tw@t on twitter from start to finish, but they were his own thoughts and not those of the club, when a manager is being interviewed then he is representing the club big difference.
It’s part of a football manager’s job to talk about football players, obviously they’ll be asked about possible transfer targets too from time to time.
I don’t think it’s underhand or unprofessional of Pardew one jot. Yeah, admittedly I may be a tad biased, but when attempting to see his comment from a neutral standpoint I still can’t tell what’s wrong with it.
What is he supposed to do? Just clam up and say “no comment”. For fuck’s sake people get far too worked up over the tiniest of things these days. Carroll has huge ties with Newcastle, and we’re also attempting (allegedly) to re-sign him, this is why Pardew was asked.
Like I said in my previous post, he’s said nothing untoward and not revealed any ‘secrets’. Should we just ban all managers from talking about players who aren’t from their clubs? That’d be exciting.
@30 did you not notice most would rather he hadn’t said what he did
as for class: enrique, suarez, bellamy…
Richie @ 33 spot on mate, reet may get a bit of work done will you watch my back while im away.
sorry but its not knig pardews fault that dogleash paid over twice what carroll was worth so hes just saying what most liverpool fans know ,if they want rid they are gonna have to take a very big loss
Ahh yes “NUCF”?! Apologies for that
I think it would make no sense to let him go now, he is still young and i think would still have a very big part to play for us next season. Those who say he doesn’t suit Rodgers style of play are just plain wrong. Danny Graham wasn’t exactly a small, skilful player but still scored goals in the Swansea set up.
Anyway, hopefully it will be concluded soon and we can all move on and gear ourselves for another (probably frustrating, for us) season!
Good comments again though, credit to your club.
Richie – if anything arry was telling the truth more than pardew if thats the argument
the ba clause existed, pardew is just giving an opinion on liverpools situation.
Unless pards’ word is gospel (which i dont even think is gospel)
….cheers Southern Red. All the best for your season too (but not as ‘best’ as us).
Didn’t really care about arry’s comment Rich. He has nothing to do with Newcastle so….
I agree about joey 100% but it is all in the public domain, regardless of who said it.
https://twitter.com/1jodyking/status/227454643377156096/photo/1 ever likley carrol want a move
Batty aye everyone knows that they paid too much but how does pards know that AC is never going to get a game under rodgers?
I hope we dont get Andy Carroll to be honest id rather west ham pay £20 million and we can get 25% of the money through sell on fees and add it to funds to buy Remy.
Alex – that was my theory all along; just a ploy to get WH to pay more
spend it on remy/debuchy/whoever else they have in mind.
Anyway, Im off for now
Richie….
….”Aussie….so you agreed with “arry” then as he was only telling the truth?”
Floppy Chops was revealing a clause in another player’s contract. A player not at his club, and a clause most people never knew about. He was shit-stirring and revealing a ‘secret’. Not his business. That’s different.
If Pardew came out and revealed a clause in Andy Carroll’s contract, well that would be different. I’d criticise him then.
It’s a simple question of diplomacy for me. Pardew is completely entitled to his opinion but as a manager of a rival premier league club – who only last week expressed interest in signing the same player – I’m afraid Pardew should be keeping these views from the press.
The daft thing is, I don’t think many people disagrees with what he has said, but in the position he is in requires him and others to treat certain matters with abit of care – particularly if you are doing business with these other clubs.
It’s similar to us blowing a raspberry in Lilles face and saying ‘haha mugs, we got Cabaye for f*ck all .. now give us Debuchy for f*ck all as well’
Aussie…as Carroll is nothing to do with NUFC at this moment in time, as I said everything Pards said is probably true but he shouldn’t have said it. If the roles were reversed almost everyone to a man on here would be complaining about it…….come on admit it’s true, you know you want to
So liverpool are apparently going to pay 15mil for Joe Allen?
They’re mad them lot
Rodz…It’s not the first time Pards has talked about Carroll though, do you not think there’s a bit of shit stirring going on there too and attempting to unsettle the player?…havn’t you yourself not said as much recently?(apologies if it wasn’t you)
Rich – never
Pardew was asked his opinion (why else would he mention it) and he gave it.. As Rodz says, he ain’t dishing out any secrets. Sorry Rich, you are wrong on this, it may take some time but you will realise it eventually.. 
I guess there is nothing wrong with Pards’ comments. But it just sort of makes me uncomfortable when anyone talks about other clubs’ players. That’s what’s always bothered us about ‘arry .
Pot kettle black … swansea had an agreement with liverpool not to come after any other their players for 1 year … 2months later they are after allen im sorry but who cares about that lot
Richie@51, OK then, so hypothetically, Liverpool sold Torres to us for £35m at the beginning of last season. Torres has a shit season with us, Pardew gets sacked and we now have a new manager on board who doesn’t really rate Torres. Torres has done fuck all for us all season and is obviously now not worth what we paid for him.
Liverpool’s current manager comes out and says, :”yeah, if Newcastle want to off load Torres I think they’re gona have to cut their losses. He’s currently not worth that.”
…na. Still wouldn’t bother me. Still can’t see what the problem is
F*ck Rodz actually makes sense during day light hours
Aussie…’arry was also asked about Ba and didn’t dish out any secrets, doesn’t make it right though, I may be wrong(I’m not)…. but not hypocritical
i agree with both dave and richie
yep true rod @57
Rodz…doesn’t overly bother me, but my opinion is it’s wrong to talk about it publically and supposedly against our own club policy…..how many of our other targets is Pards talking about every other day publicly?
Rich et al – the big difference is the dippers have already said they want rid. If Pards had said Ba was surplus to requirements last Jan then old sloppy chops coul have said what he liked. Till then – button it!
Richie…..on player unsettling……”havn’t you yourself not said as much recently?”
Don’t know mate. I don’t think so but who knows, I can talk a boatload of shit when I’ve had a few and usually can’t remember.
However, I’m generally of the opinion that clubs and managers/boards go out of their way to get players through the door. ‘Tapping up’, unsettling and the like is part of the game these days. We do it constantly ourselves. To be honest I don’t know what’s above board and what’s below it these days. There seems to be a very fine line.
As far as I’m concerned, as long as a manager doesn’t reveal unknown information about a player’s contract to the media then I don’t really have a problem with it. That’s their agent’s job. Shit-stirring that is.
Dave @ 29 not because we are interested but that we have tabled a bid. Big difference.
Totally agree with Rodz – you custard munching banana ferret!!
I think we are all missing the point pards gets asked direct questions such as ”do you think liverpool will get 20m for carroll”
bearing in mind they snared his players he isnt going to say no comment is he? He will give an opinion
I agree with most toons it’s right what he said but it may cost you a bit more now and harder to negotiate a deal. Ou will make a great profit I’m sure
To the Lpool fans posting sensible comments on our site – you are welcome here.
To those gobbing off about what Pardew said and referring to honour. Let me just remind you that Swansea have confirmed your interest in Joe Allen – only weeks after signing an agreement that you wouldn’t do that for 12mths.
Pardew may have broken an unwritten rule, but Lpool have broken a signed agreement … So don’t talk to us about honour
…Oswaldo, I talk sense in the early hours too, it’s just too deep for everyone else.
Sharpy see 56
Rodz….I know it goes on and probably all clubs do it but imo it’s wrong and if you want to get a player from another club then pissing them off in public is probably not the smartest way to go about it….FYI, how very dare you, you don’t speak a boatload of shit when pissed
TC…’Arry was just an example of a similar thing…similar doesn’t mean exactly the same by the way
I’m giving my opinion as you can give yours so I won’t tell you to button it 
…In summary, we’ll have to agree to disagree but don’t blame when you wake up in the middle of the night dripping in sweat and think feck me Richie was right
Liam…is that agreement defo or just press crap?….if true then it’s obviously not worth the paper it’s written on.
I think Pardew was asked has he ever been in a similar situation with players as is the case at the minute with AC and made a comment based from his old Reading days on how his chairman at the time dealt with things …. nothing wrong with that part
Its the “I think it was obvious as soon as Brendan went into Liverpool that Andy’s time was going to have to be somewhere else.” where the probs arise
Personally couldnt care what other managers and clubs plans are.
Pards should have thought a bit before speaking..some opinions and comments either keep them to yourself or ensure they kept off the record otherwise you leave yourself open for the expected criticism.
There is also the chance that all the quotes have been taken entirely out of context ( not that journo’s would ever do this due to their strict ethical code)
Im so looking forward for this window to be closed so we can move on from silly rumour season to actual football season
and also respect to Jay the LFC fan who posted his point respectfully earlier
Richie swansea issued a statement last night to that effect saying they were angry liverpool had made approach for allen….
Rich – I was saying Arry should have buttoned it until Pards said he no longer wanted Ba, just like Buck Rodgers has done with Judas. Nee offence intended
Liam…but did they mention an agreement or are they just generally pissed of about it?
No they mentioned the agreement specifically that for 12 months no swans player to join liverpool
TC..oops
Liam…ah, out of order if true. Always find those sort of things a bit bizarre because if another club had come in for Allen then surely you’d want as many clubs as possible involved in the bidding to drive the price up more.
LST – bloody right tho innit mate
On topic-Its just liverpool fans getting shirty that a club is capable of commenting on their players. They’re used to being the ones who comment on other players, and when they do it its flattering for both the receiving club and player….
Probably a bit embarrassed that Pards is telling the complete truth. Who would ever even consider 35mil for Carroll?
i see jabba is going to take charge of our 3 transfer targets today,well thats them fooked then
I don’t give a stuff who else said what about whom; this is not a matter of relativity. This was a minor slip from Pards; he should have stayed this side of the line and not commented on what another club should do. It’s not a biggie, he is still our wickle luv bunnie – but it was a slip into crassness that I’m not comfortable with. End of; move on.
By the way – can we get Southern Red on here when we’re playing Liverpool? It’s nice to get intelligent posts (ok, ones we agree with, but intelligent helps!) from other clubs. We got a lot last season from Spuds fans, I remember. Decent lot.
Newkie…Imagine how much we’d have got if Kenny was manager of Citeh
Richie@72, I think we already pissed them off by asking about a loan. That was taking the piss, undoubtedly. But it’s the squeaking wheel that gets the grease. With regards to the cold sweats, I guess I’ll just have to deal with that if it happens.
…reet, off to buy some crunchy custard. Laters…….
Whumpie..Aye the Spurs lot were surprisingly canny
Ice…who we gonna sign for £2m worth of SD vouchers?
…actually him taking charge mightn’t be a bad thing in a way, it’ll either be resolved or move on to the next target …maybe 
RICHIE or nee targets so get on with it pardew,while me and owlheed get some more laughs
ROD i will sleep well mate as i agree with richie
Ice
…he may shock us, Friday is signings day, right? 
Rich @81 i think the contract said they couldn’t bid until another club did first. Once someone else did they were free to drive the price up
What we don’t have – is context, here. Pardew was asked a question. He gave an answer – it was blown out of proportion by the southern press. If the scousers want to spit their dummies out over this, then let them keep Andy and see if he fits into their slick pass and move side!! By the way, watching Swansea last season (ie 5000 passes before they got out of their own half) was fcuking torturous. Rodgers, you should coach basketball. Maybe then big Andy would get a game.
Just stuck SSN on to see if we’ve signed anyone yet
Young Hayley is looking mighty fine today
See Kompany has signed a new 6yr deal at City.
I reckon Hummels of Bayern Munich would be a class partner for him.
Good to see a familiar name, by the way, Sharpy!!
Dub…So still worthless,alreet Tranmere, we’ll loan you Mr X if you bid £3.50 for Mr Y
Agree with Cumbria & Rodz, not with Richie and my old mate Ice
Aussie…The cold sweat will hit you first, be afraid….
A couple of LPool posters on here have short memories…
I agree with the poster who said LPool shouldn’t sell Carroll. I think he was finding a bit of form and it makes no sense to sell low which is what they’d be doing. If he has a good season they’d get twice as much as they could now. And if he doesn’t play well, Lpool can afford his wages another year.
i see l/pool slick passing game hasnt kicked in yet,they got beat last neet
One thing I have noticed is that our club can do nothing right….
If we buy a player cheap – we have ripped the other club off and they won’t deal with us again.
If we pay too much for a player – we got ripped off and we were stupid to have paid that much.
Pardew honestly answers a question – he should just keep his mouth shut.
Pardew stretches the truth – He should just keep his mouth shut.
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t..
Cumbria – long time no speak mate, hope your keeping well
You new to this site like mate?
Speaking from experience there Rich
Nothing like what harry did, did our manager say ba could go out on loan? no its blant to any1 with half a brain hes for sale so how is it the same
AMF@102,aye it reminds me of aussie sheilas mate
They’re just pissed off that we fucked them up the ass 18 months ago and are still going back in for a quickie whenever we feel like it
I’m surprised they have time to moan while they’re busy doing the exact same thing to another club (Swansea).
Excuse me if I don’t feel any sympathy
Aussie…cold sweats maybe, being wrong….never
Sharpy
Pretty sure Hummels plays for Dortmund. Canny player I agree, got bored on FIFA one time so I started a Career with City, my defence was like this
———-Lescott—–Kompany—–Hummels———–
-Richards——————————————–Clichy-
MDS@100, I agree, they’d be insane to sell him now after a shit season. Carroll had a poor run of form coming back from an injury, under a shit manager. Not the best time to sell IMO. It’s madness for a club to be so committed to a club acquisition (35 million pounds worth of commitment) one year, then decide to cut losses after such a short space of time. I don’t know anyway. I think they should keep him for at least a full season under a new manager, but if they want to take a 25m hit on him and sell him back to us then that’s their prerogative.
Reality of it is, they probably won’t be prepared to lose more than £15m on him, and nobody is gona pay £20m for him on the premise of his performances last season. I think they’re stuck with him anyway.
Reet, I moustache……..
Got that right Ice
… Rich, never? ?
Jon R our Ambassador in liverpool there
Aussie…whey, maybe the first time I said “I do”
Richie
We could have bought the entire French league with that money
Rich
AMF got my brother coming over next wk from Q/land,says he has never known the aussie $ so strong against the £,you must be doing sumit reet owr there
Andy – 2 days in a row, cheers ‘mate’ … yes you’re right, Hummels is of Dortmund
thanks for correcting me on that 
I’m off and bored so am watching Honduras v Morocco in the Olympic game. Canny game but the young Moroccan lad Barrada who we are apparently linked looks good and scored a canny goal.
Not sure if our link is paper talk, coz we have loads of midfielders but he looks a good turn anyway.
Interesting view from Jon R …annnyway,
Just to clarify though, no one at Liverpool has gone on record as saying Carroll is for sale. There has been a fee of £20M brought up by the media, yet no one has been quoted as saying this. Its standard lazy British journalism sadly.
Until Rodgers is quoted/filmed/recorded as saying, “Andy isn’t a part of my plans, so we will be listening to offers for him” its just a lot of speculation.
I know we have said the decisions on this are down to Rodgers and he has said very openly how fantastic he thinks Carroll is, but at the minute, nothing more than that has actually come out of the club.
Its one thing i loathe about ‘silly season’ as the media print what they like and fans of all clubs just whip it into a frenzy that gathers pace instantly but until its on record, i wouldn’t read so much into anything any more really.
The Joe Allen thing isn’t great and i think Swansea are right to be annoyed, but id like to think Rodgers wouldn’t openly go back and screw his club like that having spoken so well of his relationship. There must be something in the agreement that we are not privy to, but if not then i agree, we have no room to complain about Pardew and id rather we did things the right way, although i don’t know many premiership clubs who do, anymore.
RICHIE@113 thing i have never worked oot when you see all these people getting married they always say oh look how pretty the bride is,now my ques is where are all these ugly women coming from,beats me
Hi Sharpy. Yes, new to this site mate – always slow with new fangled technology, me! Looks like a good site. Wonder if my arch enemies of Colin (the mackem dwarf lover), or Owas (Ashleys gimp) has found this site. That’s if they’ve remembered how to use their opposable thumbs!
Andy – yes i’m proudly keeping the NUFC end up
Ice, nice one mate, your brother will miss the qld sunshine.. re; aussie $ vs £ well at the moment it is worth around 60¢ to every £ compared to the old 50¢ we used to get
stronger but still weak 
Oh and personally, I hope Pards has scuppered the Carroll deal.
Now we can bring some quality in, like Remy
Cumbria – it’s a really good site mate, good crack and generally well balanced debates – nee bitching or name calling or out like that.
Ice – I’d have been doing that visit in reverse mate. You must he ready for so NZ sun after all the Lanchester floods?!
Well I’m split down the middle on this tbh. Pards was right to mention what advice he’d been given about wipe your nose and move on ,as a direct reply to a question about Liverpools possible loss of Carroll.Where he went wrong was saying the moment Buck came in it was obvious AC wouldn’t fit in and also that he’s not bothered wether he comes back or not .It’s a bit disrespectful to player and club imo.I would like to think we as a club have a little bit more class than that .Yes we all know it’s the truth but why mention it ,it serves no purpose other than to cause bad feeling.
Pardew should keep his bloody big mouth tightly shut when discussing other clubs players.
He loves the sound of his own voice
Just to add, are the Liverpool fans as upset with Tugboat for trying to get him to leave for wet spam?,or is that o.k cause he’s one of their own I wonder. Let’s not forget how ex Liverpool players and Pundits were saying Enrique was a done deal yonks befor he left us and how it affected his game play.
Great. Sounds good Sharpy. Agree with you Southern Red. No club in the EPL can hold the moral high ground when it comes to horse-trading. However, it’s the press who really love to shit-stir. Just so they can divide fans and squeeze a bigger story out. And they say ‘you can’t polish a turd’!!
Tony, how can Pardew keep his mouth shut when talking about other players, he’s not a ventriloquist
SHARPY kna mate to far to gan in the plane without a fag
plus everything bites and stings you in aussie,ill stick to ganning to malta to see the son,its 30/40c that will do me 
I’m still not sold on Remy. I would have thought that he would have had a higher games to goal ratio than he does considering the chances that would be created for him at such a massive club in the French league. That’s why I can’t understand why £15m is the asking price, Cissé had and Ba had better goal tallies in clubs which arent at the top end of the division consistently when in Germany.
Come on Ice, you haven’t lived until you have been bitten by a few venomous spiders
Andy-To be fair, they did only finish tenth last season. They’re not the European power they used to be anymore
And his goal/game was still almost 1/2 wasn’t it? Not bad like
Andy….Marseille only finished 10th last year and Remy’s goals per game(almost 1 in 2) is better at Marseille than Ba’s was at Hoffenheim
Ice – To far to go on a plane without a fag
whatever floats ya boat buddy 
I know what you mean tho, I’m not a big fan of long haul flights like. You gonna get him up SJP for any of the matches?
Andy – I kinda agree, and I think that’s what has put Arsenal and Spurs off tbh. Think he’s a good player but I’d want more goals out of him for £15m like. That said, if we can get him for £10-12m then he’d be a good buy.
Really enjoying this match like
“Just to add, are the Liverpool fans as upset with Tugboat for trying to get him to leave for wet spam?,or is that o.k cause he’s one of their own I wonder”
…it may just be me, but i have no idea what any of this means. Who/What/Where?! help!?
Andy, Marseille only finished 10th………….
AMF ive been bitten by mossys,sand flys,spiders,spiked by stone fish,stung by the happy moments fish,even got stung by a bloody tree ffs,think ill give a miss for a while
Ice
don’t blame you then mate !! 
sand flies are little feckers… hate em..
Agree with Richie and AMF
@132 you haven’t lived until you have been bitten by a few venomous spiders
nahhhhh got a few goals in life getting chomped by incy wincy or them snakes you got down there dont seem to be on the list
Gary, it’s not that bad mate.. it would be the same in England if you could actually spend some time outside without getting pissed on by rain
Rain v nasty spiders / snakes/ crocs
Sorry getting soaked wins again lol
SHARPY kna mate wont take him there
hes a better man than me,wrong sport he a rugby man played at a very very high level,still coaches owr there part time,while in uk for short time yrs ago he was in the paras,boxed,even wrestling at sj hall twice (but dont tell troy) 
my other brother works for a goverment dept ime not allowed to talk about 
ime the black-sheep ime afraid
I didn’t realise they finished tenth
. Still I just reckon even in past seasons he hasn’t done as well as he should to justify 15m.
Ice – and you’ve never been back to Pets at Home since have you mate
Don’t forget our sharks Gary
although JJ will probably have it over us with his waters around sth africa 
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/Manchester-United/United-scouts-eye-Magpies-teen-hitman-1448221.html
Now they’re just taking the piss
Said yesterday that he should not be telling other clubs how to deal with their own players, Its certainly not the sharpest move if he expects to do a deal with liverpool after this whole palava.
If Redknapp had said something silmilar about one of our players we would have (rightly) slaughtered him.
Im still far more worried about only having 2 quality centre halves and some hit and miss or inexperienced back up. Strikers are not a priority at the moment that said Loic Remy on the left of the 4-3-3…
Southern Red….Tugboat refers to Nolan and West Ham
Southern red….Nolan advised Carroll to join you all despite being our captain at the time. Needless to say many of us do not wish him well
I seeeeee, cheers Richie Toon!
The whole West Ham thing is pie in the sky in all honesty, would expect nothing less from Allardyce lets face it, but they wouldn’t have the collateral to take AC off us.
Andy…Campbell’s a local lad I think. Don’t see him wanting to leave. He has a better chance of playing for is
us
I wasn’t aware of that MDS…very much a conflict of interests in that case. I guess it happens a lot but id be as p*ssed off as anyone if it happened so openly to one of ours. I believe McManaman was key to persuading Owen to do one to Madrid, which is a little different possibly but not good all the same.
Southern Red
They will with their dodgy owners
Having just watched Morocco I was pretty impressed with Barrada like, he looked to play that left channel aswell and it has been suggested we could get him for as little as €4m. He could be really good buy for us I think.
MDS
I can think of a few players that the ‘local’ factor meant f-ck all to. Saying that I think Adam might be different, seems like a good kid, and by kid I mean 9 months older than me
Yeah forgot about the sharks lol …read somewhere they are considering culling them ..isnt the answer simple ..you dont want to be shark food .dont swim in their foodbowl.
Think when it comes to venomous dangerous creatures ill stick to the wife and the teenage witch (sorry daughter) and the poison they have between em
Got a couple of wild creatures like that as well Gary
GARY thats a bit harsh mate
agree about the sharks like 
Never read any posts so just to comment on the thread.
Pardew has done nothing wrong. Liverpool have put him in the shop window.
Totally different the sloppy chops craic. Ba wasnt for sale.
Southern red@137 Sorry for non reply ,was called away,but see you have been filled in .
Just seen Buck on SSN saying AC very much a Liverpool player and he’s concentrating on getting fit and ready to play a part there.Lots of mixed messages going on .Still wonder what he meant when he said in much earlier interview that he had spoken to Andy and he knows exactly where he stands
.Maybe what he should of said was Andy is very much a liverpool player in the first place ,then the press and fans wouldn’t be having a field day with it.
Watching korea vs mexico at the moment.. nice to see some football again.. I think it is at St james park..
AMF once had a nasty run-in with them big red jumpers too while oot pig shooting,nasty red fookers
didnt relise they can be up to 7ft tall when they stand up ffs
Troy, we actually agree on something
I knew you would come around to my way of thinking eventually 
Ice
in their defence, you were trying to shoot them 
one of the dumbest creatures you will come across. I know a guy that had his car parked on the side of a road as there was lots of roos about and he didn’t want to hit one. About 5 minutes later one slammed into the side of his parked car 
crazy stuff..
St James Park certainly looks different without all the puma and SD signage littering the place!!
Amf- that Marco Fabian for Mexico is supposedly a heck of a player
AMF kna was shooting pigs not roos,grey ones are not bad but them red fookers
aye would make a bonny mess of a car like brain dead why couldnt run into the front where the bull-bars are 
Kimtoon, couldn’t agree more my friend!! would’ve saved a lot of mess if we had been clearer from the start.
MDS – their defender charvez seems quite handy, haven’t seen much of fabian to date..
I’VE SUSSED IT.
Probably mentioned before, but definitely not in proportion to those of us worrying about transfer movement.
I’m very certain now that the reason we haven’t had any real outlay yet is because we don’t know how much we are going to be needing to spend.
We have 5 days left with Ba’s clause. I think the board are waiting for that.
If a club swooped and signed him it would drastically alter (CB aside) the positions we need filling the most. And the 7 mill for a proven prem striker wouldn’t go to far so it may dent the budget for things like fullback that aren’t crucial.
Tbh it makes sense, as annoying as it is. If we lost Ba then striker would by far be the most important signing. However if we don’t then we only need a back up and can focus on bolstering the rest of the squad with the funds we are maybe setting aside as a contingency.
Yawn its getting boring now
AS Roma tracking Newcastle United midfielder
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/589614137?-11058
Southern Red, you sure you’re not a toon fan in disguise, you seem alittle too reasonable to be a red like
I’m watching the Spain v Japan game and Spain look shite, defender sent off just before half time and they are loosing 1-0
hahah exiled to the sunny south but i only really have any beef with those usual suspects *cough* Chelski, Mancs etc *cough*
Ive never had any problem with others to be fair and i guess no matter how much i love my club and have red tinted glasses, if you can’t see how your own beloved club can mess up at times then you need to get a better grip on reality. No club is perfect, lets be honest but its good to hear some level heads on a forum too. Its often just a case of slating in whatever docker-like language they can grasp as opposed to sound reasoning.
You guys are a breath of fresh air…i should’ve naffed off a long time ago hahaha sorry! blame yourselves
That only makes any sense if the board had already decided to have a low outlay (say, around £10m) on filling the areas we have obvious deficits.
If they were planning on spending nearer £20m its not reallly necessary to wait for the Ba situation.
£20m would have been enough to get a couple of defenders
and whatever was left over plus the money from selling Best etc, and money from the sales of Ba and Simpson would easily gives us the money to buy a top class striker.
RED your welcome on here anytime m8 i would dare say
@Pootle
Don’t think we can always rely on Carr though. We would need a top striker AND a back up. Basically it would cost more to replace Ba than the fee we’d get for him (unless Carr had an ace up his sleeve). I think it’s actually astute management. Imagine if we had spent our budget on Debuchy/Douglas/Anita and Spurs had swooped in on 31st July and signed Ba.
7 Mill to sign a replacement striker (less if the rumours that Ba gets a chunk of the fee are true). Would be very, very nervous times. (and that would still just leave us with Shola as 3rd choice)
@ Sharpy
Would love to be watching the Spain game
BUT…2 year old has told me she”dont like football and im not watching football daddy” so Zingzillas won
I think the not liking football bit comes from her being half smoggie which in time she will grow out of and eventually embrace her more intelligent half of the gene pool
Gary @183 ,never try to reason with a two year old ,you won’t win
cheers Icedog, appreciate that!
Solano
I think the reason why we havnt spent us because we still have a policy of “no capital outlay”…
We’ve spent the Carroll money, so now we only have money for transfers from what we have sold or released. Unless its a young youth player with resale value.
So far we have sold Best and Foster for around 4mil.
More or less what we supposedly bid for Debuchy.
We won’t spend big money on anyone over 25 because of their poor future resale value. If we do, I expect them to be sold after a couple seasons before their value drops.
SouthernRed
It’s refreshing to get opposition supporters coming on and having fair debate. We had some decent Spuds on her last season too.
It’s an astute explananion. It’s just not what’s happening.
If we got Debuchy, Douglas and Anita that might be a combined cost of say £18m. That leaves £2m + £5m from Best etc + money from the sale ofBa.
Even if that is as low as £3.5m that’s £10.5m in total – we got Cisse for less than that. Not forgetting we may also sell Simpson and other players yet.
And what’s to stop them just getting in Debuchy and Douglas and just holding off on the Anita transfer, in the above example?
That way two players get into the squad straight away and were only waiting on one. That would more than be enough to cover any eventualities of Ba being sold.
It was the initial level headed responses to the article that caught my eye really and then it just seemed to be a good topic with sound comments. I thought it might be good to have a red view on it without the usual ‘fan’ style of posting a load of abuse and legging it. I know our club isn’t perfect, far from it of late, but i have fought AC’s corner for some time to fans of other clubs and id be really frustrated if we let him go now. Although i don’t agree with what Pardew said, we would be huge hypocrites if we got on our high horse and really kicked off. Managers do this kind of thing, part and parcel of modern football i think sadly.
Pootle,
Exactly. Everyone keeps mentioning a new striker because it excites fans and sells papers.
We’ll only buy a quality striker if one leaves. Otherwise we’ll be fortunate to sign two defenders.
JJ aye but did we not give jonas and colo long contracts they are at the wrong end of twenty,maybe we might sell them now then if we are right into buy young to sell on later cannot see us getting a return on what they cost us now
by the way mate how you ploughing on with the young!n getting any joy?
Ice
I think there will always be the odd exception. Maybe Ashley feels it would cost more to replace them with players of equal ability.
Southern Red@189, I feel you are right on that ,it’s gotten so cut throat since the days befor the PL. Money rules everything now and teams like Chelsea and Citeh are ruining the game ,turning it on it’s head .It’s all out of control with regards wages ,transfer fees and it will all go tits up for a lot of clubs .We already seen the start of it with Rangers and Portsmouth and there is sure to be more to follow. From my point of view I’m happy for Toon not to break the bank for players as I want us to remain stable and keep existing ,though I do think some of our bids leave alot to be desired mind.
Out of interest how do you feel about the whole Suarez affair last year?. I know from reading red forums they are unhappy with him mouthing off about it again.From my point of view ,I feel he did Liverpool a lot of PR damage tbh.
RED clubs now are behind the eight-ball,what to do change managers to try and bring some glory which costs a arm and leg all the compo spent on clearing him out along with all his staff,then the new wants his players in and staff more cash spent,would it be better to give him half the cash to try and improve the team,its a funny old game mate
Sorry JJ didn’t see your post, but, yeah I think your explanation is a far more likely to be a cause for the lack of movement than Machiavellian master plotting by Ashley or Llambias.
I’m not sure if we have a ‘no capital outlay’ policy but it looks like we may have an ‘as little as possible’ policy.
Trumpet, your explanation can’t give a reason why we haven’t bought at least one of the players that you mentioned?
Gary – if my boy was here I fear I’d be watching something similar – why is it that all the songs stick in ya head as well
Red – I’m afraid I am not an admirer of Lpool like, but it’s a pleasure speaking with you mate, so I share in Ice’s welcome
) and if you read the word bindipper (s) it’s our term of endearment toward LFC 
Can’t guarantee there won’t be unpleasant things written about Lpool (probs me
Here’s the only sound theory…
We won’t sign anyone until after the Olympics so that the new signings can get their photos taken at St James’ flanked by Sports Direct signs
Richie@197 ,All things considered you probably hit the nail on the head there mate.
Or maybe we’ve got no money because we STILL haven’t sold Tiote, Krul and Cabaye despite Pardew spending months telling everyone how we’ll sell them if we get a good offer!!
hahah don’t worry, I’m well used to the endearing bin dipper reference,…to be honest, I’ve heard worse on other forums!
To touch upon a couple of things, i think you are right in the way the game is going. Sad to see Pompey and Rangers going the way they are and i think more will join them, as you say. I think Dave ‘mouthpiece’ Whelan said recently that he wants to see wage capping brought in, which is what I’ve been saying for ages but i can’t see Blatter/Platini doing it…mainly as it just makes sense and they appear to be dead against anything of that ilk.
The Suarez thing was awful, huge PR disaster as you say. On one hand i think it was an unfortunate clash of cultures as it seems the south american lads weren’t aware of the effect it would have over here but then the club should have done more to educate them too. The way it was handled with Kenny and the handshake was a joke too but every time i see something about it now (i think he said something last week) i cringe. Just let it go, Luis!! the sooner its left in the past the better but the more he goes on about it, the worse it looks. Awesome player like, but needs to be given more guidance from the club with regards to the media if you ask me.
Anyway, enjoyed the banter on here, you boys are a good bunch and its a shame more forums can’t integrate club fans like this….maybe one day eh
No pootle i agree as far as the cb is concerned. but i think if we didn’t have some other cisse esq bargain lined up than i can understand holding fire on debuchy and other positions. Even if we managed a decent 10 mill striker we would still be a striker short.
Tbh i think debuchy is a luxury signing and the majority of our transfer funds should be ready for the worst case scenario of ba leaving.
Don’t understand the cb as well as we need a player in there regardless.
Another sound theory
None of us know who staying or going but its good fun guessing
@Sharpy.. think if i went on Mastermind Cbeebies would be my specialist subject
Kim
Pootle…Haven’t we still got the Andy Carroll money like?
Do we still really want to sig debuchy if simmo extends his contract? imo if we only have x amount of money there another positions that could do with improving first. back up goalie/right winger etc
Why does June and July drag on for sooooooo long
Olympic footie is not quenching my thirst and the Friendly games are like a couple of sips when you want the whole glass. 
Nah Richie, spent it all on the world’s most advanced undersoil heating.
Most undersoil heating goes up to ten, but our undersoil heating goes upto eleven. It’s one better.
Solano, Still holding a candle for Simpson I see?
Solano,
I would love a winger/forward, but without any doubt fullback and centre back are a massive priority.
Debuchy seems better than Simpson to me. Someone brought stats up for the two of them recently and that seemed to agree with what I have seen and heard.
Simpson has been ok for us and is consistently decent at defending but Debuchy is better. How much we need him largely depends on how tight the fat controllers pockets are, I guess.
At the minute, at least, they appear to be very tight. Lol
i always thought proper clubs and managers didnt talk openly about players contracted to other clubs. Pards has to reign his cockney wide boy side in at times. Its the same thing Harry has, loving sound of own voice too much sometimes. It can get you in trouble. I hope it does not
ps chicken – no where have liverpool come out and said they want rid of carroll
no where
Whooo,St.James Park name is back in action.
And i must say olympic football is the best chance to have a glimpse of some upcoming new talents from different countries.
And Just look how Spain totally shell-shocked with Japan endurance,stamina and their closing down.
And congrats Japan with the convincing win over Spain.
Pootle…That truly is world class undersoil heating then
Based on the players most frequently mentioned this is the order of importance for buying them, I think:
Debuchy, Douglas, Anita, Remy
Remy becomes more important than Anita if Ba is sold.
UAE don’t half have some fecking tidy players mind
Brilliant goal, great ball-Cabayeesque
Wham loan to buy offer is £15m which afer the 25% sell on is less than the £13.5m we offered…
Pervy piss takers
CC i dont think carroll would go to w/spam mate even if clubs agree a fee,nolan or no nolan i know the lad isnt the sharpest knife in the draw but ime sure he would know its a backward step imo
Carroll living the high life in London? That has trouble written all over it…
Maybe he can just move in to Nolan’s house again
Ice @217 ,I agree .
MDS@218 ,It’s got Gazza mark 2 written all over it.
Is anybody watching the young uns in the cup final or know how They’re getting on?
RICHIE thought you would be the first to know mate,let doon again
Ice…well I thought that being as it’s on UK tv that someone who was in the UK might be watching it
Richie
Up against it at the minute 0-0 though. Brazil on the front foot Toon penned back in their own half. Young Woodman only 16 is looking a good prospect in goal. Campbell is isolated up front as we pack midfield
Toby…Cheers for that, Howay the Lads
team gb winning 1nil like,big fk deal
Half time 0 -0 in the Milk Cup Final
Ice…aye, I’m watching that one.
Well I hope Carroll does go to London then.
We haven’t seen a player prepared to have a bit of a cry or wear a pair of plastic tits since Gazza.
All they want to do these days is buy Bentleys, spitroast girls and act a bit rapey.
Well Lads has Good got here yet or still not as you know how slow aussies are.
although as they have said its hard for them as its their 5th game in 6 days, and we hear so much about how the prem players are tired because they played 3 or 4 days before 
TLR I don’t think the kids are doing to bad against the slick skilled brazilians
Oh, and shag their team mates girlfriends. Almost forgot about that.
Jonathan Pearce said Giggs is a very classy player earlier on.
I couldn’t help thinking “I wonder if his wife and brother agree?”
the younguns are down 1-0
Pressure has told some Manure trialist headed in at the back post. Brazil one up deservedly so on posession
TLR the players do look a bit tired don’t they, im not trying to make excuses for them
Like so many other games this year. The bairns are struglling to keep the ball against Brazilians
First time to see these young lads play so it hard to judge them but our number 9 Adam Campbell ( i think ) looks good.
Agree Dave its been a tough schedule for them. Give credit to the opposition though they look useful.
TLR yeah typical Brazilians technically they are better than us
Johno yeah I like young Adam but he has been left a bit isolated, and he’s having to come back to try to get into the game
Two nil to the Brazilians. The boy down the right Oliviera a blistering turn of pace (reminiscent of Richie getting the drinks in) opened up our defence for a stab in at the second attempt
TLR you mean like Richie doing a runner when its his turn to get the drinks in
Dave/Toby….I have that burst of speed for either/or depending on my mood
Dave never heard it said that Richie takes a backward step. Short arms deep pockets?
Young Adam Campbell gets player of the tournament
Campbell named player of the tournament. The bairns are oot on their feet and the Brazilians are taking full advantage
Richie @ 242 yeah depending on if its happy hour or not
Dave…
Toby… I prefer nae pockets, perfect excuse for not having my wallet on me
RICHIE does buy the odd pint in,the last time he bought a pint it was just 40p,that put him right off so he leaves it to others to get em in now
Ice..
it’s 40p a pint now 
.. 
Richie @ 250 yeah but you still only get them in on happy hour you tight git.
Was just reading through a bit ago, and must say Southern Red isn’t your typical dipper that we get on here
NUFc twitter earlier posted that someone beat tiote to a 50-50 (bigi). Then: ‘we can confirm that bigi is still alive and well, although ‘mini cheick’ has been keeping away from ‘big cheick’ for the last few minutes!’
Both the Manc teams are after campbell according to reports today
They are trying to nick our best prospects befor they’ve even made the first team now 
RICHIE how much is lager in your neck of the woods now,you can still get lager for a euro in malta its fooking crap like brewed in china or some bloody place,but in general its a canny price as long as you keep away from tourist areas like,i get a large j/d and coke for 1.50 euros
twitter rumour ben arfa to psg for 7 mill
Football Rumours
10pm NEWS: Newcastle United have accepted a £7 million bid from PSG for Hatem Ben Arfa. #NUFC
seems cheap like,think jabba would screw more than that oot of psg so think its shite
Batts you got to love twatter they must be just buying one leg at that price
No way we’d let him go for so little. And PSG have deep pockets, I am sure a certain someone would try to get a lot more out of him than 7 Million. Funny though.
Oh, and good lord…258 comments…takes a long time to read through all of that. Good stuff though.
regarding ac and man u …….the majority of lg to prem clus constantly have scouts at youth torniments,most likley the scouts were watching all the young players throughout the tourniment not just one player.well doneto the lads they done well
If a young player plays well and looks the goods then the equation is simple for the press – Man U or City will be looking to sign them… lazy f*cken journalism at its best.
Then again, maybe they are doing some good old fashion journalism…… by hacking Sir Alex’s mobile phone 
Only 3 days left before Ba’s clause is null and void.
That’s got to be a positive thing. Countdown 3 days.
@Ice
Why don’t you think Carroll is the sharpest knife in the drawer?
Do you know him or is it because he’s got a Geordie accent and isnt great at speaking on tv like a politician?
I find it strange when people make assumptions not actually knowing them.
He comes across as a decent enough lad , who has made mistakes as a youngster but haven’t we all?
There’s plenty on here who are horrific at spelling and I’ve noticed you arent tip top in that department but I wouldn’t generalise and say you were thick.
Intelligence comes in many forms. Some individuals are very clever academically but have no common sense.
Some comedians are so quick witted, almost genius in that area but have no education to speak of.
Bit unfair on the lad really .
Sir Troyster….defender of the common man
Troy, do you know for a fact that Ba’s contract has an expiry date on his contract, for the buy out clause? Have you read it or are you basing your opinion on what you have seen in the papers and on TV…. Sounds a bit like what you are accusing Ice of, if you ask me…
Paid $8.75 for a schooner of beer last night. A schooner is about 3quarters of a pint. Mind, that was at a bit of an up-market pub. In Newcastle I paid 2 pound 30 for a pint. Cost 3 pound 70 in London. I was quite surprised at how cheap almost everything in England was.
Paid almost nowt at all for 2 weeks of quaffing vats of red wine in Galicia. I think I might retire there.
Oz @ 265 Didn’t you know that the details of Ba’s contract are part of the collective unconscious? Same as the mind of Mike Ashley and all of NUFC’s transfer negotiations. I’m
that you aren’t plugged in, mate.
@aussie
Morning my antipodean comrades.
I like the sir Troyster craic. It’s got a kind of ring to it.
I only know about Ba’s contract clause by reading the local press. I have tried to gain access to his original contract to firm things up but his agent told me to F – off.
I’m still trying to work out the comparison with Ba’s contract and Carrolls thickness?
Did you and Begas sleep well? Or was one of you snoring?
smutty as usual I see Troy
Troy says, I’m still trying to work out the comparison with Ba’s contract and Carrolls thickness?
Well you can’t criticize someone that passes comment or bases an opinion on what they have gleaned from the internet and then make a comment that is formed on information sourced from the very same place.. You questioned Ices’ reasoning’s in regards to Carroll, saying he had never met the guy, I questioned you saying you haven’t read Ba’s contract… Same dog different leg action
Looks like Debuchy deal might happen next week according to the Journal this morning:
http://tinyurl.com/d2cfr39
I wonder where Richie is? He is normally out about around this time. Maybe he went out and got himself a job
Rumor has it West Ham have bid £18 mil for Carrol , if its true we have a 25% clause on whatever they sell him for , would people rather the £4.5 million we would be due or would people rather we bid for him less the £4.5 mil so £13.5 million?
Don’t be fecking stupid
Hey, Oz, I read that Troy thinks you have a sense of humour. Sorry to hear that, mate, but I’m sure you’ll get better.
Johno…..Rumour also has it they bid £13m and £15m….in short, it’s bollox
The don’t be fecking stupid was directed at Aussie by the way….although that’s a bit like asking a cow not to eat grass
Positive words from Demba again
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/07/27/61634-31483310/?
4 days and counting
Unlucky for the youngsters last night , but they still done us proud
25% sell on clause. Wow! Was that in the fine print of the contract?
Vegas, yep, just another one of Troy’s back handed compliments
Richie, I thought as much
West Ham bid 17mil for Carroll… Thank goodness, that should make it certain we aren’t in the running.
I hope they reject it and because Carroll would be very useful with Big Sam’s dull as shit style of play.
West Ham have reportedly made a £17 million bid for Liverpool striker Andy Carroll that would shatter the club’s transfer record.
West Ham’s bid of £17 million is significantly more than the £7.5 million they paid Liverpool for Craig Bellamy in 2007 and Jack Sullivan, son of David Sullivan, the West Ham co-owner, virtually confirmed the news by tweeting: “Dad is working on the biggest signing in the history of the club – twice as big as anything the club have done before!”
Carroll himself, however, is thought to favour a return to Newcastle rather than a move to London, despite the presence of former Newcastle team-mate and good friend Kevin Nolan at Upton Park.
3HW….I hope that stories bollox too, if it means CB is not the priority also I don’t know how they’ve agreed personal terms without a fee being agreed between the 2 clubs first…..surely not dodgy dealing going on
or like asking Richie not to eat that cake
Aussie…invest ya cash wisely(and have a bit of luck), then you can live of ya means without working by the time ya mid 40′s
…and before ya say, no I don’t claim benefits and nor have I since 16 
Don’t mention cake unless there is some….it’s cruel and uncalled for
Carroll should go to West Ham imo. I’m sure their style of play would suit him. But his beers would be more expensive so I hope they pay him well enough
Re the sell-on clause: Liverpool-based journo tonybarrett says the clause is only active if Liverpool make a profit on the 35 million which kind of makes it void now – so a least interest must be genuine.
I’m thinking its getting more and more likely that Debuchy will be our only major signing of the summer UNLESS BA or Cisse leaves.
Hats-off to the Journal – very enjoyable reading this morning – lets hope debuchy is in soon!
Is mooching of ya missus counted as a benefit
Mate, I am basically debt free myself…own my house and everything in it it.. I haven’t got enough to retire on just yet but I have enough assets to fall back on later in life…. I have never been on benefits either.. I blew a shed load of coin traveling in my twenties but that was a great time… wouldn’t change a thing…
The dildo peddlers wrote the book on how to do smokescreen bids that ashley has followed religously in recent years.
£2m with £16m to follow if they stay up is even ropier than us offereing nowt but £13.5m if we are happy with his form, Theres more chance of them being relegated than Caroll flopping back here imho.
Nice to see some progress on the Debuchy/Ba situs and really nice to read about Krul and Harper being the only two keepers training…
Oz, I hope your collection of antique steak knives isn’t the asset you are going to fall back on.
Demba Ba:
“I don’t care what is being said. I think is part of the game,” he told The Journal.
“However, I have never said anything other than I love being at Newcastle.
“If they hear something from me about my future, that is the truth. Otherwise everything that is said is not true.
“The newspapers and I are not very friendly at the moment. For months and months and months people have been talking about me but there is nothing happening.
“Of course, I am looking forward to next season with Newcastle.
“We just have to build on the progress we made last season. For
me, I just can’t wait to start the first game.”
Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/07/27/61634-31483310/#ixzz21oHirDVm
Great to here from the man himself…
Vegas
na mate, I am hoping that my kids will be highly paid sports stars and I can live off them.. It’s only fair after the money I have forked out for them 
Aye, time to go hit the frog and toad and have a captain cook at a new bar in town, and a maybe sip on a few expensive beers.
I see Mark Douglas has been reading my tweets and criticism.
For once he has been decisive in his writing.
Normally the article would read:
“the likelihood of Debuchy signing for Newcastle has increased with Ashley reportedly willing to up his offer. It is thought that personal terms may have been agreed with the player already.
Newcastle will look to push through a transfer within the next few weeks.”
Aussie…not at all…but I would if I could
nah she has apartment in Madrid, I have a flat in Toon and we have a house wi both bought in Toon too, nae mortgages so rent is enough, had more dosh when we worked obviously but enough to live off now and quality of life is better…might work again sometime though it’d be cos of boredom more than owt else……or divorce
JJ….it’ll be in white text at the bottom…..”or it may not happen at all”
“back in my twenties…”
Is everyone on this blog an old fart?
That’s the way to do it Rich, I am looking to get a rental investment soon, and let it pay itself off… House prices aren’t real cheap here in WA so we will have to bide our time….
JJ, no but Richie apparently smells like farts
Well, I’m in my last year of my 20′s so I guess I’ll be joining the old farts brigade soon enough
Then I can fit in with the rest of you lot!
Im 28 so Im still in my early to mid 20′s
I’ll be into my mid 20s later this evening.
well I am in my early forties, so that’s really early 20′s x 2
Aussie..I’m hoping house prices go up in UK before here so we can buy a holiday let or 2, we’d make in 3 months here what it takes a year to make in UK…..trying to get my parents to buy an apartment, rent it out in the summer to supplement the pension then live over here in the winter…..it’s the way forward I tell ye
So many years yet still act like a load of bairns
Sounds good Richie… there’s worse places to live than on the waters edge in Spain… Has the housing market bottomed out due to the economy problems Spain is facing?? Might buy a cheap rental property meself
Re post 308 : I spend my working days being serious (to a point) so It is a nice relief to come on here a talk shit
My missus kind of zones out when I talk football with her. Still it is no different that when she is talking to me…….. about anything 
Aussie….Prices will drop further here, I reckon they’ll keep falling for at least another year but more likely longer.
The world has got its self into such a financial mess, I don’t think this recession is going to end any time soon… Its not a good time to be in your teens or twenties. I’m going to say it could be up to a decade before things start coming right…
Hear about people losing their jobs everyday, losing their cars houses. And that’s if they are fortunate enough to have had those luxuries in the first place.
Then everyday we have to read about corrupt politicians stealing millions of tax payers money… Disgusts me how greedy the human race is…
Anyway… now that I got that off my chest
So Debuchy definately maybe will be could be kind of surely hopefuly will be signing for us
Two players in a week would be nice, Good and Debuchy…. Looking back I could have given Icedog 4 weeks and I would have still won that bet
JJ…but despite all that, the important thing is to sign a CB
Richie
I’ve got a sneaky feeling that Good was the cover for CB.
Coloccini, Taylor, Williamson, Perch, Good
I can see Debuchy coming. But I really don’t see anybody else. I would love us to get Remy though, I think he’d be perfect for that winger/forward role with Be Arfa o the opposite flank and Marveaux pushing for a start.
Ba and Cisse will play on the centre.
Bloody hell JJ, bring the vibe down why don’t ya
Maybe today will be the day we sign someone
and we might even get the Good guy in .
Good to see positive words from Demba now all we need is the clause to run out and all the shit stirrers will go elsewhere
Unlucky for the youngsters last night done us proud though
….although I’d like to, I can;t believe a word of that Journal article on Debauchery.
…”The Journal understands….” blah blah blah…..agreed personal terms….blah blah. Well yeah, everyone knows he wants to come here do that’s a fair guess. No relevant quotes in there, but the article does harp on with facts we all already know. I think they’re just putting two and two together like we are.
….with regards to Carroll, I never realsied he had this 25% sell on clause, which seems absolutely bananas to me, given what they paid us for him.
Big Papa’s post at 288 makes more sense from Liverpool’s perspective as it’s highly unlikely….
…”….only active if Liverpool make a profit on the 35 million”
…oh yeah, I almost forgot. Where’s this fucking centre back
…we’ve only needed one since 2010.
What ever happened to Gary Watson?
Agree with JJ in thinking maybe could only be Debuchy and at best 1 other coming in
AP has said Ashley wants some of youngsters to step up this season and expects more playing time
Could be see how we start off and if we up there challenging , then splash cash in January window to kick on
I was wondering that the other day JJ
I think he opened himself up to a lot of arguments on here and probably got sick of it. My guess is he still posts, but under a different name.
…a few people have disappeared. Shamrock never comes on any more neither. I think people just get sick of it and take a blog hiatus.
New article…
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