What price for Andy Carroll?
Will he stay at Anfield? Will he leave for pastures new, or indeed not so new? I’m personally not sure, although it seems as though Carroll is only keen on leaving, either temporarily or permanently, is a club can offer European football.
Alan Pardew attracted a lot of criticism from Liverpool fans during the week as he said pretty much what everyone know and stated that Liverpool are going to have to take a hit if they want to offload their misfiring forward. The rights and wrongs of that have been discussed already, but with Liverpool wanting somewhere in the region of £20m I’m just wondering what a realistic price would be for the most expensive Englishman of all time?
Currently Carroll is rated at £13.5m by Transfermarkt.co.uk which values players on current form. Whether it’s right or wrong is up for debate but I’d personally question it.
Of course it’s all a matter of opinion but I happen to think that Carroll, based on his last 18 months, is worth no more than £10m. You can call potential as much as you like, but he had that at Newcastle and has so far failed to fulfil it at Liverpool so why should it be a consideration now?
I just think there is a premium being put on the price of Andy Carroll’s head by Newcastle fans based on nothing other than the fact he is a Geordie who did well for us for two half seasons – one in the Championship and one in the Premier League. I keep saying this but would people be happy to spend £20m on Kevin Davies who has outscored Carroll in a weaker team? Though not…
End of the day it’s a pointless argument I guess. No fans have any real say as to what goes on during transfer negotiations and we aren’t privvy to information that is flying around boardrooms currently, plus it’s not actually our money which I guess makes it easier to spend.
So, purely theoretical as I don’t believe Carroll will be leaving Liverpool anyway, what value would you put on his head if you were making the decision to sign him or not?
P.S: For any Liverpool fans wondering why this has been written, ask your manager who started all of this!
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8m on current form & 60m once he finds the mythical form many on this here blog think he will suddenly regain.
20+ million pounds is a fair price.That’s what we(LFC) rates him. If you want him you should pay that considering you rate him 35 million pounds not so long ago. We aren’t messing around.
I’d say based on his performances for us, England(in the Euros) and towards the end of last season with Liverpool he’s worth just over £12m, but I think the highest we should go for him for would be £15m.
I would think £10m is a fair price to pay for him. Forgetting the hype of £35m (£5m still owed) you have to offset this with the money received for Torres, so the net cost to Liverpool was £15m.
I cannot see how they can claim to have improved him during his time spent there. Therefore my assessment I think is fair and reasonable.
Very difficult to value Carroll, as you say he’s only had 6 months in a top league playing well and even then he scored less goals than Demba Ba or Papiss Cisse given the same time frame. Personally I think a £10 million price tag sounds about right purely based on performance but although the Liverpool hierarchy could potentially take this blow to their pockets I’m not sure they can to their pride… #biggestflopever?
Why don’t you read what Brendan Rogers has actually said rather than out of context tit bits from scummy red top rags? I remember last season you guys were upset that Harry (deputy dawg) Redknapp came out talking about Demba Ba… but rather hypocritically none of you seem that bothered with Pardew’s comments. Well when Alan (Dave Whelan) Pardew has finished talking, maybe he can wipe his anus and jog on.
Well a fair price would be about 25- 28 million saying we got him for 35 million 18 month ago but I wouldnt go above 13 million because I’d rather sign Remy for about 15 million. I dont think paying more than 13 million for a player who will start on the bench depending on the fitness of Cisse, Ba & Ben Arfa is very good business. So I think leave him alone and look for another striker for 15 million. We got Cisse for 9.5 so there’s bargins to be had and Remy could fit straight in to an all 3 strike force with Ben Arfa playing slighty behind them or on the wing.
I would say first off, Carol is only worth what who ever wants him is willing to pay.
The 20 million reported to be what Liverpool are asking, In my view is 5m more than I would put his value at.
10to 12mil max would love to have the big lad back he would play out of his skin for the toon big lad demba cisse what a strike force mike bring him home
He’s a pisshead and doesn’t give his all in training. Not worth the problems. Don’t want him back. nuf sed.
Paul, I see your living in a fantasy land there mate. You can’t base his current value against a truly over inflated sell price a year and a bit ago. Liverpool got ripped big time, sorry to say that you are dreaming if you think you can get 20m now. If West Ham are willing to offer money that is close to that mark, then more fool them. Liverpool should take the money and cut thier losses..
NUFC is a little bit like Holloway was last year with Blackpool. Ferguson who is a friend of his said that Holloway doubles the price of any player he wants to sell but claims poverty and halves the price of any he wants to buy. Seems NUFC follow in the Market of Cheapskates!
For me -not a penny more than 5mn. I read an article on a Bindipper blog recently – his stats last season were atrocious – that was in every area of play – it advocated cutting him loose.
His report would read “Has a long way to go – still hasnt mastered the basics – and if he hasnt at his age – he never will”
Colin, was BA one of Harry’s players? Where is the comparison? Rodgers opened his mouth about his own player!! And no contract info was aired to the press. So you are way off the mark mate….
15m with performance related add-ons – say 20m.
So the bindippers can save some face and say it was a 20M transfer.
Hope we sign him.
Paul (2) With respect, I think you should be directing the ‘we are not messing around’ comments to your new manager, after all it is he who has backed your club into a corner with his ‘loan’ comments and making it obvious Carroll was not going to fit into his scheme of things, before having to backtrack.
Also, at the time of AC transfer, I recollect it was Dalglish doing the pushing for the sale and your club had already warned Chelsea that Torres would cost £15m more than whatever fee they had to pay Newcastle for Carroll, which is the reason the transfer fee went so high.
From what I have seen subsequent to his move, Liverpool have done nothing to take Andy forward in his play.
£35m plus clearly… that was the value you put on him and he has since been benefited from being at a proper club… transition season aside, he will come good this year and if not will be shipped out in January.
Re: P.S: For any Liverpool fans wondering why this has been written, ask your manager who started all of this!
Our manager did not and I repeat did not start this. It was started by malicious reporters who twisted his statements. His problem was naivety, (something Dalglish didn’t suffer from, he just ignored them), and a trust in people who should never be trusted (the UK press). Your manager should pull his neck in and stop abusing Carroll and Rodgers, his comments are tantamount to tapping up witch carries severe penalties. And if you say he was misquoted by the press, you will only prove my point.
finally Rodgers has said (more than once) that Carroll is not for sale and he doesn’t want to leave, contrary to reports which are just more press lies and he’s not spoken to them at all.
Is Carroll one of pardew’s players??? have I missed something?? Aussie, find the quotes of Roger’s about Carroll… direct quotes, not hearsay. Crikey, one good season and anyone would think Newcastle are a team of world beaters. You won as much as Manchester United last season you know!
Bill – “Our manager did not and I repeat did not start this”
Ohhhhhh yes he did…………..
Paul – We didn’t rate him £35m – LFC rated him at £35m!!. As I remember it, LFC came in at £25m then raised it to £30m before finally stumping up £35m. As the buying club, you set the price, as that is what you were willing to pay. We simply saw it as a ridiculous amount of money to turn down!!
As for what I think his current value is, personally I don’t want him back – so sweet FA for me. However, if we are still after him, his value should be relative to his performance. We paid £8-9m for Cisse who was on fire at the end of last season. I know they are different types of CF, but I wouldn’t want us spending more on Carroll than we did for Cisse.
geoff777
Just come here and call me a bindipper to my face you fat slag
Agreed. Personally I still can’t understand how so many people think we should snap him right up for a paltry 17 mil. 17 MIL! So many better players out there for a cheaper price, or even if they aren’t better they’d certainly be better suited to our brand of football.
Fair price for any buying club would be 10mil. For liverpool, well a fair price is as much as they can get-presumably they want at least 15, to save some embarrassment
Liverpool are currently valuing Carroll based on what they paid and as they paid way, way over the odds a buying club can not value him based on Liverpool’s scandalous purchase price. Personally I would value him at £10m with a maybe a add on here and there to take it to £12/13m.
However I really don’t see this one happening, can see us buying a striker from Europe instead.
I agree with a number on here though – even though I value him at 5mn I wouldnt have him back – gobsmacked the dippers want him – as playing to his strengths it ruins good football and turns it into hoofball.
As a Reds fan, I am genuinely concerned by NUFCs apparenet prowess in the transfer market… Something our owners are yet to learn. Amazing turnaround for Ashley by the way… can any of you geordies confrim or deny Ashley’s strategy of paying all of transfer monies up front, thereby reducing the overall fee? BTW, no prizes for guessing where all the capital came from!!!
Mat (17)
Transition season my Geordie Butt. Yous wern’t good enuf to be called shite last season and you know it I would be happy with a top half finish this year because we are in transition and all our fans accept that. The Dippers are going backwards and are panicking . Bye Bye suckers.
Agree with Aussie magpie there. And also people got riled about Redknapp’s comments because he basically made a clause in Ba’s contract (which in theory should have been kept private) public knowledge. Which he had no right to do do. all pardew did was give his opinion on the situation and say if liverpool wanted rid of carroll they were going to have to take the hit on the finances.
Bill (18) May I suggest you are very careful when making the statement about ‘tantamount to tapping up’; may I refresh your memory re Jose Enrique & Phil Thompson’s comments on TV!
Colin, so Pardew answered a question asked of him, crime of the century stuff that is.. He didn’t reveal details of a contract. It’s time Liverpool fans faced reality and accept that you have the most expensive British flop in the PL ever. That’s what you get after paying 35m for a player that had half a season of PL football under his belt..
10 to 15 million tops and paul at 2 jog on you idiot
Bill (22)
BINDIPPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
With alan pardew, carroll plays the best of his football..alan uses him for his best strength..so if alan could have sold him for 35 million..if he wants him back he has to pay at least half of it.. alan knows what he is getting..andy will still be one of our best nufc product ever and getting the best back,doesnt come cheap.. go ask barca how much they paid when they were getting their youth products back.. even pique(who was on the reserves for man u)..carroll still has the talent and i saw it in the last games of the season.. and with alan pardew as his manager..i am only seeing another alan shearer for us
Billy the Bindipper … lol … it’s got a nice ring to it.
Your rat infested city is one of the last places on the planet I plan to visit. So no face time – keyboard warrior.
I think im right when i say that he had scored 3 goals in the championship by february against the might of blackpool, doncaster and plymouth and was well behind Shola, Loverman and even Harewood in the pecking order.
His whole career seemed to turn on a match against cardiff (??) under the lights where we totally blitzed them in the first 20 minutes, He scored twice forced an OG and should have had a couple more. From then on he carried that form for the rest of the season and the first half of the next one until his luck and form deserted him.
Hes not worth £20m on current form if thats the set price walk away and buy the fucking centre half we are crying out for…
I dont care what he is supposed to be worth The style of football we now play is beyond his skills and we dont need him
Theres a very good reason why pools owners have his price set so high. Hes english. Hes considered home grown. Clubs are allowed a max amount of foreign players and have a min requirement of homegrown players in a squad max 25 players. Fifas fair rules will push up english players prices further. Its got f all to do with saving face as you delusional self righteous wallys think. Christ is it that difficult to see?
Geoff777 The Keyboard Warrior
I do like your style mate !!!
Quite simply, Liverpool massively overpaid for Andy Carroll. If we want him back, there is no reason we should pay more than his current worth just because his price was so massively inflated.
I would upset if we paid more than 11-12million pounds for Andy Carroll…
If Liverpool want more, that is their perogative, but we would be stupid to pay it. There are far better players out there in the 15mil plus bracket.
The only time Carroll looked effective at Liverpool towards the end of the year was when they hoofed it up to him. When they actually played football he looked very very poor.
He isn’t half the player Cisse is and we paid 10mil for Cisse.
LIVERPOOL PLEASE KEEP HIM!!
At the end of the day like everything in life something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay.
Well said gideon… His value will rocket if Rodgers can use him correctly. It would be crazy to cut our losses now, unless he has an amzing deal lined up in excess of any existing transfer targets…
Charles
Carroll hardly played under Pardew, He played his best under Hughton. Long ball.
Aussie, Pardew answered a question asked of him about a Liverpool player. Harry Redknapp answered a question asked of him about a Newcastle player. You can try to rationalise and justify it as much as you want but it is just the same thing. As for Carroll, I think most Liverpool fans, myself included, want Carroll to stay. His form towards the end of the season and in to the Euros was good. He turned the cup final against Chelsea on his own and was unplayable, unfortunately he wasn’t given enough time on the field… which was the story of his season. He arrived injured and took time to gain his fitness and settle in but when he did, he looked great. As for value in football it is all relative. In comparison to Torres, Carroll was great value… compared to Cisse he wasn’t… but all the fees are over inflated anyway.
Ps the days of filling your squads full of cheap imports are over. It couldnt bave escaped you that several of the top clubs have been raiding lower league youth set ups in recent seasons. Theres a reason for that.
Mat (26) yes we try to do business in fees up front as much as possible. Ashley didn’t do his due dilligence properly when buying the club and found we were still paying for players we bought years ago when they had already left. At the same time, we got sponsorship money in advance and wasted it on Owen. Thats another part of the reason why
12.75 million or 11million with liverpool receiving lonsdale training vests for the next 5yrs
we’re not far off ‘Porciestreet’,,, hitting the bar 50% more times than any other club suggests we’re doing something right, although equally something wrong ha ha! the addition of Borinni is gonna be massive, but a bit more pace along with another finisher, you just watch…
Gideon, lucky for us we already have enough home grown players.. it was probably more good luck than good management…. what a joke…
Mat
Borinni is average mate, sorry to disappoint you. I am putting money on Rodgers to be sacked within six months.
A generous £7.5 million for me. He’s a talented but very limited striker who only scores a certain type of goal. He was never worth £35 million but Dalglish had his heart set on him. If Ashley had turned down the £35 mill offer there’s every chance Dalglish would have returned with £40 mill. Simply put, Liverpool wanted him at any cost, and the inflated price tag should have no bearing on any sale to Newcastle.
Bottom line is Ashley and Llambias won’t pay over the odds for him, they’ll only pay what he’s worth. If lfc fans don’t like that then he’s welcome to go to West Ham.
Colin – I’m not sure if you saw mate, but the day after Pardew made his comments about how Lpool should deal with the Carroll situation – I’d say 90%+ on this site said he was wrong for making the comments.
The fact is that Rodgers has made a U-turn about how he feels about Carroll. Afew weeks ago he didn’t see him fitting into his team, knowing that would generate interest in the player. However that interest was from clubs wanting to loan him, so you came out and said he wouldn’t be loaned out – but like every player he has a price to be sold (hardly filling the lad with confidence). So we reportedly bid for him, and Lpool have came out saying they would accept less than £20m for him!! – hence West Hams offer of £17m.
It’s all well and good getting arsey with us, but your club have valued him at £15m less than what they paid for him. Rodgers did say that Carroll wasn’t really in his plans – I saw the bloke saying it on SSN for godsake.
You have your valuation and that is fine. This article is asking what we the fans value him at – and I promise you, there wont be a NUFC fan values him at £20m +. So he can either stay with you or bugger off to cockney land, coz we ain’t gonna be as stupid as Lpool with our cash.
Also, I’d be interested to hear a Lpool fans view on Rodgers breaking a written agreement with Swansea not to chase their players for 12mths?!
Colin, it’s not the same thing….gloss over it all you want mate.. just give it some time and you will come to realise that I am right…
Porciestreet and Geoff777 get a room ha ha! Perhaps keep the derogatory comments to pillow talk…
Anyway, thank DUBTOON for clarifiing Ashley’s transfer policy…
How did the renaming of the stadium go down in the cuty by the way? looks like FSG are keeping LFC at Anfield and redevelopping citing better ways of making money (£25m per annum shirt sponsorship, £25m manufacturing etc. plus it remains Anfield…
gideon we still have plenty of homegrown players – off the top of my head: harper, krul, elliot, simpson, taylor x2, ameobi, perch, williamson, gosling, and if needs be we can name u21 players in the 25 man squad to increase that
Personally can’t see why anyone in their right mind would want to pay more than £10m for Carroll. But then football has always been a funny old game.
12 million cash max 15 if its 12 mill plus a player
Mat thats why ashley and co said they did it, cant compete with the sponsorships etc of the likes of liverpool. Not from the area but seems like the uproar has died down until they do something else unpopular and it’ll be brought up again. No fan calls it SDA and half the media still call it SJP, its annoying but no one pays attention to its ‘official’ name
So its all rumours made up by the press
Its been well documented that Sam Allardyce, Kevin Nolan and Andy Carroll all share an agent, Do people really think that west ham decided to put a cheeky loan offer in on the basis of a few gutter press reports and hadnt discussed his situation with the agent ??
I think it’s wrong to say AC hasn’t improved at all in a red shirt. I read some stats recently that suggested some key aspects of play improved significantly.
I also disagree with this assertion that Carroll only suits long-ball footie. For a start, that’s not how he tends to get his goals. For another thing, his value – much like Ba’s in the 2nd half of last season – is in other areas than scoring. At the FA Cup Final, and at the Euros he was at the centre of every attack, putting his weight about and creating space and time for his team.
I think Transfermarkt.co.uk have got it about right: £12-£15m depending on what you include.
And yes, I’d love to have him back.
P.S. Where is SouthernRed? He was really good on the previous thread about Pards’ comments last week.
come on boys stop calling bill bin dipper its childish
seriously tho where the hell did bill steal the computer to get on this blog or do they have them when you sign on Gobseekers i mean jobseekers now????
I think we should offer them a straight swap for Shola
Can get over all the angry dippers coming on here ranting and raving now, you’s were all laughing when King Kenny performed his transfer masterstroke.
So if you want to be angry try King Kenny as it was him that cost you’s so much. Now run along im sure theres plenty of bins need dipping
Yep, enough of the name-calling. I’m notoriously childish, but even I’m starting to cringe!
and the last time NUFC won anything???
@sharpy 17.. so if 90% of the fans thought Pardew was in the wrong clearly Aussie is in the minority… @Aussie… I’ve given it some time and thought and listened to other fans of your club and decided…you are wrong.
Back to @sharpy please show me the quotes from Roger’s where he says he doesn’t see him fitting in to the team… I can show you footage of him saying he will… but not any saying he won’t. Show me anything official from thee club saying they will accept £20m… I can show you some footage of Roger’s saying a lot of rubbish has been talked about Andy Carroll over the last few weeks.
Please could you forward me this copy of the agreement signed with Swansea saying we won’t poach their players?.. as you must have one as you are so convinced about what was written and agreed.
Once you realise you can’t do any of these things you might figure out you are just believing a load of paper nonsense. I’m not at all arsey at all I just think it is funny people are so keen to believe everything they read.
Getting back to the article, if Andy were for sale (which he does not appear to be…but like Roger’s said.. all players have their price) then I would say £20m is a fair price. Young, English international striker. Which agrees with the you guys that we over paid but Harry Redknapp said they submitted a £20m bid around the same time.
could be worse u could of bought henderson and downing as well oooo wait u did HAHAHAHA
And there it is.. the classic Liverpool fans com back when they are losing a football debate… nice one Mat….
What I’d like to understand is why my gut feel about Carroll changed so much after that humiliating return to SJP.
Ok, it was bloody funny – but still. Odd.
Before the match I would have paid good money to see him tarred and feathered. I nearly crashed my car laughing when he got booked for that dive. Since then I’ve wanted him to do well… although mostly in an England shirt.
Supsat?
I’d never swap Carroll for Shola. Sorry, but that game against the mackems proved who the real Geordie was-Carroll hitting the bar from two yards out, Shola finishing it up with one of the best goals of the season.
Enough said
aussie magpie fan: The irony of calling the UK’s most succesful club really is lost on you then…
aussie magpie fan: The irony of calling the UK’s most succesful club ;bin dippers’ really is lost on you then…
Mat
Two days ago
Nope, you are still wrong Colin, give it some more time mate… if Pardew had revealed details about Andy’s contract I would say he was in the wrong… I understand that the pain of paying to much for something is hurtful, so I will let you off the hook because you obviously aren’t thinking straight.
Whumpie-I was the opposite I think, I’ve been feeling bad for him for quite a while, but that dive against us was disgusting imo. Hilarious because he should have scored, but shameful all the same.
Still, have felt sorry for him, and even supported him when Liverpool were in the cup and for England….that doesn’t mean I want him back though, we had some good memories but from a footballing standpoint, we’re just better than him atm….
the irony on having your name as mat and having all this blog walk all over u is irony enough for us
but thank u we have all enjoyed laughing at you.. please call again
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Ive never described a liverpool fan as a bin dipper Mat… feel free to read back through all the previous articles and posts and you will see that I am telling the truth… you are as wrong as Colin is…
Sorry Andymag, must have missed that one…
Actually, Colin’s got a point. For a club that’s on the wrong end of so much media bollocks, we’re being a bit quick to believe it here.
Can someone dig out the Rogers quote? I seem to remember it was one of those where he didn’t really say anything contentious… but it was hard to see any other meaning but “I’d love to offload Avatar…”
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/07/29/silverware-drought-over-newcastle-2-1-sc-braga/
There you go Mat
@78
Based on how he has played for the last season and a half, Carroll is worth maybe 12 million. But like others have said, for that price we should get players that can fit into our squad better rather than a 4th center forward
Andy
@78
@aussie.. I won’t resort to name calling… it is just wrong… like you are lol!
Back to Carroll I guess Newcastle were just getting us back for the two great former Liverpool managers you ended up with and for allowing you to beat us to the signings of Michael Owen, Carl Court and Sylvain Marveaux.
ICE PUP??? and you continue to be offensive to others… Nice. The bottom line is, if it transpires that NUFC sign AC for £20m you would be more than happy with rhe £15 profit and you get your darling boy back. i would feel the same about Torres. some players just fit in better at certain clubs… feel free to enlighten me on what debate I have lost… BTW my bin-dippers response was not directed at you Aussie magpie fan, more a general comment on the generic latched upon viewpoints from certain others…
Andy mag… you must be so proud… Didn’t see it covered by sky Sports… i guess tractor pulling must have received priority…
Colin – Pardew was asked “what do you make of the Carroll situation?” and he answered honestly, he doesnt believe that a club will meet Lpools valuation of Carroll and if they want to draw an end to the circus that surrounds the Carroll situation, they would need to sell him for less. Personally, I’d sooner he just said, nowt to do with me, ask them!. But to suggest his response could be seen as tapping up is ridiculous mate.
However, Redknap was NOT asked, “do you know if Demba Ba has a clause in his contract?”. He spoke completely out of turn about Ba. From memory, Redknap was asked “do you regret not going for Ba?”.
Pardew was being honest, something Redknap can’t rarely be accused of being.
@mat.. As a fellow Liverpool fan… it might be clichéd but please “calm down” don’t turn some harmless name calling in to a John Terry incident.
mat i seriously mean nothing more than banter if u take it to heart your on the wrong blog if i wanted to offended u i would need to know u which i dont
but to come on a newcastle blog is like me going on a liverpool one u are going to take some flak
Mat
, the press are very biased so rarely report on us for good news(ie wins and signings) but is happy to report when we lose a friendly game or sell a player.
The trophy is far more lucrative than the league cup
Dont Liverpool still owe 5 million; and we still get a 25% sell-on fee ?
@sharpy, you are entitled to your opinion. I did not however suggest what he said was in anyway tantamount to tapping up… I’ll leave that sort of stuff to Harry (brown enveloped) Redknapp.
Mat, I guess that was why the irony was lost on me.. If a fellow Toon supporter calls a Liverpool fan a disparaging name, it does not nessesarily reflect my thoughts. Just like some of my views are not accepted by others on here. Which is fine by me. I just find it hard debating with people like Colin because they have so much trouble admiting they are wrong
Andymag…….. top form today mate top form few posts made me burst out laughing
Colin @ 83 – I wouldn’t include Marveaux in that list just yet. He’s looked pretty handy in pre-season! Could come back and bite you in the arse.
ouch aussie mag LOL
or a Suarez one… I;m sorry if my comments have been interpreted as rash and retaliatory..they are not… if you look back at my comments, I have shown a genuine interest in NUFC fans views and opinions… Cleary, i am going to respond to comments made… its a blog… Rafa’s so called ‘rant’ condemnation comes to mind… No worries though…
@Aussie Okay.. okay… I admit I am wrong…. mat SHOULD stay upset with the nasty name calling and I am going to take my ball home now as well. Andy Carroll was massively overpriced and could only hope to repay that sort of fee if he could help us win a trophy that is shaped like a bridge!
http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/2012/07/premiership/arshavin-to-newcastle-probably-not
Every word of this is utter bollocks
“Pardew and Ben Arfa don’t see eye to eye” where the f-ck did they get that from, Alan is one of the few managers that Hatem hasn’t had a ‘bust up’ with, HBA is loved on tyneside and he’s said that he’s enjoying his football at Newcastle. Not to mention that the Arshavin link makes no sense, too old, wages are too high and not any better than we already have, would rather give Marv and Sammy a chance.
Pup
Cheers mate
well mat uv kept me from being bored i’ll give ya that
now get a cuppa a kit kat and dont let it bug ya lifes 2 short
nee one hates ya… we hate your club but not you personally
Fair play to you Colin, your a good sport mate
@whoopie.. he’d get injured trying to bite my arse…..he’ll probably make it back for the first Liverpool / Newcastle game and get injured as he trips over Andy taking another dive in the box.
zulu… On that basis, lets hope Ashley pays £100m ha ha thinking, oh! goody, I’ll get the £25m sell-on fee to buy more Sports Direct stores… Cleary, there would be a stipulation in the contract to prevent this.. pls FSG!
hahaha @ 97
right am off theres only so much bitching one man can handle
Pup
your not a motivational speaker by profession are you mate 
Pup@103
Now you know that’s not true
@ice pup I actually really like Newcastle FC…Been through the sh*t and come out the other side… fans are always brilliant at Anfield, funny and on the whole not at all aggressive and when they are in the wrong unlike Aussie.
Mat and Colin: cheers for a few laughs on here. Good banter!
right guys I’m off. Thanks for the banter… all the best for the season ahead and may i take this opportunity to thank you for the 6 points in advance
Thanks Whumpie… best to say it how you think eh?
Colin – if your lot take 3 points away from SJP it will only be because you robbed them – along with anything else that isn’t bolted to the floor – you dirty, thieving, racist gets!
Are you serious Toon Chicken? Its the SDA by the way…
yeah good banter boys u took it well,,,,,,,,, better than i would have just beat sunderland and i’ll hate you all a little less
@104 and 105
Mat@63 ,Actually it was saturday night .
Cheers Ice Pup…Could be interest with Toon Chicken,,, He seems well up for some ill-founded commenst!!
@toon chicken… I actually make sure I scrub myself clean before engaging in any thieving or racist activity… less DNA mate… schoolboy error to be dirty as well.
to Colin and Mat ,Out of interest if liverpool wanted Torres back what do you feel would be a fair price ?
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Colin – you seem to have a blind loyalty, whereby you fail to acknowledge anything that shows LFC in a bad light in anyway shape or form. I think you are taking what’s being said alittle out of context. Nobody is saying Lpool are actively looking to sell Carroll, but every club have a value for a player and while Lpool may not have released a price list – you would be deluded if you think Lpool have not told interested parties what they expect for Carroll. Rodgers, may not have said I want to sell Carroll but he also hasn’t said I see Carroll as a major part of the squad. He has always said ‘Andy is happy here at Lpool’ he’s never fully backed him.
As for the Swansea agreement, Swansea confirmed it and Rodgers acknowledged it and justified it with the amount they are offering for the player. But if you haven’t seen that – then it obviously didn’t happen
Pienar back to Everton for 4.5 mil, we should have got on that
@kimtoon, I personally would be happy to fork out the £35m we paid for Andy.. even now even after the season he just had. Torres was a fantastic player who broke a number of long standing goal scoring records for Liverpool. Off the pitch he was a poster boy and great advert for the club. I’m not one of these fans who hates him because he left… He said he wanted to win stuff and to be fair he did… he didn’t slag off the club he just told the truth. unfortunately he, like Carroll, went to a club that consistently has senior managerial changes and he suffered like Andy as a result. He was the most exciting player we have had for years and I was gutted when he left. I really like Andy Carroll too and would be gutted if he left… there is something about him that makes me think it is going to come good. Michael Owen on the other hand….. I’ll just not even go there.
Andy Carroll is worth 8 million max, but West Ham porn barons might pay more
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we can forget that Liverpool paid 35 million as they rinsed Chelsea with the Torres fee anyway, if I were a liverpool fan I’d be gutted at the fact Daglish was responsible for some of the worst buys in thier history – Carroll, Adams, Downing, Henderson and to top it all bought a racist diving buck toothed cheat in Suarez (tho at least he can actually play football and was prob worth his fee
Wouldnt have Carroll back personally, he’s gash and should play for Stoke
Great question kimtoon. AC’s value is only going to go up, wheras Torres’ at 27/8 won’t have a sell on value above £50m ever again… i think a better question would be, would i return to a point before the sales and ‘yes’ I certainly would.
Mat-Do you honestly think Carroll’s value will go up?
Fair play, its possible he might hit 35 mil again if he has an amazing season and you lot build your squad around him, but nobody would ever rate him over 35 mil…..agree on torres though.
Newkie@120-
Pienaar was only ever going to go back to Everton. He was stellar there, then sat on the bench at Spurs, then played well again on loan at Everton last year. I think he’s comfortable there, and it was easy for Everton to welcome him back.
Colin@6 I would refer you to the article Highlighted blue 4th down at the start of this article titled ‘ Does pardew have a right to tell Liverpool to cut their losses’ .You will see that most of us were not happy with his comments and maybe you should rethink your “but rather hypocritically none of you seem that bothered with Pardews comments” snipe.
Colin@19 “One good season and you think your world beaters” ,now you are starting to sound like a bitter Mackem . Truth is noone on here thinks that we leave that to the likes of you.By the way when was it you last won the PL exactly ?
Charlie-Wouldn’t have hurt to try though. We should have tried to loan him and even now we could have at least competed. Definitely worth 5mil, even if he has no sell on value.
Plus he’s a toon fan…we’d have some pull!
@Mat, I’d completely disagree with you there m8, Andy’s value is at least as likely to go down as it is to go back up. He doesn’t find his form soon, by this time next year there’d be no question of him being worth anything more than £5 million.
Right now you lot value him at £20 million, in my book a £20 million striker should be getting 15-20 goals a season just to hold onto that price tag. right now what’s keeping his price artificially high is memories of past form (with Newcastle
) but he can’t trade on that forever.
COLIN… i know where you’re at with MO, you but can’t ignore what he did for us. true, he’s a mercenary and you’d nver see him alongside robbie and ian on the north american tour ha ha! i think winning the CL the season after he left kinda makes the two parties quits… as for joining MUFC, well… perhaps we should chat about this on an LFC blog ha ha!
i really rate AC, his touch is brilliant, he is commanding and can destroy any central partnership… he has to be kept cos he gives us something no other club has. A very costly sub, but one that could turn games we fail to capitalise on dominance.
Torres should be back at liverpool where he was loved, but with the ‘new’ owners, we could perhaps live up to his own ambitions… it won’t happen until we’re back in the CL and then he’ll be over 30!!! Borinni, Suarez, Ramirez… Gerrard, Allen, Lucas… Could be worse.
Very funny thread lads…thanks for the laugh:).
I rate Carroll at 10m. I’d maybe go to 12m but have real concerns about how he’d fit into the club both on and off the pitch
Sorry Newkie… to clarify, the value of £15-£20m can only go up… not £35m ha ha…
the bindippers are talking as though Pards is as stupid as Dogleash, 35 mill was the joke of last season just behind henderson and downing, we dont need andy carrol and we dont need to be paying more than the 8-10 mill he’s worth.
i almost forgot about charlie (the crab) adam pmsl, lfc is deluded and living off 80′s success, when you win the league, The Premier league as were now in 2012 you can start demanding silly money for average players who helpen you win it.
Bestie out for 6months, poor lad!
Mat-Ah fair enough mate, yeah you’re not wrong there
Actually I reckon downing was a worse signing than Carroll…Carroll is actually a decent player and looked to have plenty of potential…Downing is and always has been gash.
Henderson was just ridiculous…American stat buy I think.
Lets not get back on to the bin dippers comments again ha ha! This is not an MUFC site!
@Kimtoon I think you need to read the blog items above and below and get some context….both on what I was on about and whether or not i am a delusional scouser. We have won the premier league as many times as you guys… none… and are as close to winning it this year as you guys…. so basically not a chance. If Andy and Jose left your club as they thought they had more chance of winning things at Liverpool then that is their opinion… the fact they both won a none bridge shaped trophy is by the by. I read somewhere Andy left as he wanted to live somewhere that he could park his car and it would not get tampered with outside his mates house… but Liverpool outbid Spurs so he was screwed.
On topic , I would say his value is around £12m as he’s English which always increases the price right or wrongly. Would I have him back ,yes as he offers something different . Would I pay 18 or 20m for him ,no, but it’s not my money and mike can do what ever he wishes with his money and that includes walking away from the deal.
Totally agree Newkie… Pound for pound Downing is by far worse and decreasing his value more and more… Charlie Adam too with recent events. Downing is techincally good, but appears to lack any confience and application…
Colin@138
“Andy left as he wanted to live somewhere that he could park his car and it would not get tampered with outside his mates house… but Liverpool outbid Spurs so he was screwed.”
Class
no denying Carroll is a ‘decent player’ as long as he is used in the right way but no waaay a £35 mill player, correct on Downing and how can henderson of had stats to make him £20 mill
, then again id forgotten just how much the yanks know about ‘soccer’
“Andy left as he wanted to live somewhere that he could park his car and it would not get tampered with outside his mates house… but Liverpool outbid Spurs so he was screwed.”
Quality.
Look can we just accept that last season Dalglish went too far trying to disprove the tight fisted Scotsman tag? He could have just pointed to Berbatov and Veron and the rest at OT but no… he went and spanked the lot to prove a point. Adam’s stats show he had more successful passes to Reina than any other Liverpool player… we could only wish he was crab quality.
Hendo will come good. Techincally brilliant, just needs confience and maturity… Definte parallels with Lucas…
5mn + add on. However, since he is English by born & therefore “Home Grown”, EPL clubs ‘ll need him to fill the 25 player quota. Technically, he is as ordinary & skill-less as Emil Heskey, but Heskey had far better work ethics & lifestyle.
I put another 7mn for his biggest asset – his passport. 12mn & add on. I think NUFC had a fair offer of 12mn for that donkey & Rogers would have definitely off loaded him, but it’s just that BR can’t take a 23mn loss for his predecessor’s stupendous stupidity.
Mat-Exactly…C Adam was overpriced as well but in comparison with Downing he still looks a decent buy. He just seemed a strange one as he was never going to be a first teamer.
Gadgfield-Not saying he’s a 35 mil player…just that in the circumstances when he was bought it wasn’t that ridiculous a bid as Downing IMO given that he promised so much yet Downing is still very much the same player…
Colin@138 I don’t think I have taken any thing out of context tbh . You did say none of you seemed that bothered didn’t you?.
I just get fed up with Liverpool fans accusing us of double standards and thinking we are world beaters because of one good season . I happen to think we are one of the more realistic set of fans as regards where we are and where we are headed.
I wish this art malik lookalike on sky would fuck off shit stirring about demba.
Roll on wednesday morning…
I have never hidden my dislike of LFC, and that will never change. But I have a new found respect for their fans this week with all the banter on this site.
I love the way it always starts with the ‘my dads bigger than your dad’ crack them ultimately ends ‘ok, they are about the same size’ – ie you have as much chance of success this season as us.
Think the bulk of my dislike comes from the old LFC like Hansen, Lawro and Thompson.
It’s gonna be another interesting season I think
He’s a £12m player. Even if he returns to the form he had (during a short indian summer spell) at nufc he forces the team have to adapt its game – which is basically aerial, despite the argument about his ‘under-appreciated’ touch, pace and movement.
I hope we spend the money on someone who will fit into our new system – not the other way around.
@Kimtoon, not on here to be a wum… but I do think that there are some very vocal Newcastle fans getting a little carried away… but then I think that can be said for a lot of clubs including Liverpool and I do think there were plenty of fans happy to accept the Pardew/ Redknapp double standards. As for next season I personally don’t see the title going anywhere but either Manchester or Chelsea… which leaves a fight for fourth at best for a group of about 6 teams. As for delusional fans, I’d said Liverpool can’t touch Arsenal for that.
Sharpy@150 I would agree with that
As for Liverpool/nufc rivalry – I hope it is just that, as it always has been pretty friendly between the two clubs. Liverpool are a proper club – proper supporters and always give a good craic when we go to anfield. Last season is one they will want to put behind them, not only the money spent on disappointing transfers, but the Suarez business which was very unsavoury.
As it stands the toon are in a better position at the moment – and should benefit from the consistency coming into this season- plus probably a better first 11 if we’re being honest at the moment.
Colin ,I don’t doubt some Toon fans have double standards re Pards comments but certainly not all and obviously some get carried away on the hype of last season. Me personally when the fixture list comes out I always look at the last 7 games to see how many points we can get incase we are in a relegation battle
, it don’t get any less unexpectant than that . I would love a top 6 finish again or a cup to speak of as it’s been a long long time and a bridge won’t cut it sadly. 
much as I liked seeing us get it. 
@sharpy… you and me both…. half the problem with Liverpool’s living in the past image comes because we have a load of high profile ex players spouting cr@p on the TV. Hansen, Thompson and Lawro and their Liverpool of old comments…. I wish they would put a sock in it. I always go in to the season with new found hope though… all part and parcel of supporting your team… but looking at our fixtures for the first 8 games… I’ll be wishing for the start of the 2013/14 before this Christmas.
Good write up on the situation here too.
http://www.themag.co.uk/guest-writers/liverpool-cutting-their-losses-carroll-next/?
Right guys, thanks for the good laugh but I really do need to go now… I’m hungry and I need to get down to the bins at the bottom of the road before they are emptied.
YNWA
Bad luck for Besty… too bad. I like the kid & wish him well.
Fans@159 yes it’s rotten luck for the lad .
Also off topic but feel for Tom & Pete in the syncro dive final, just missed out on Bronze due to bad entry on 4th dive
was leading at 3rd round too 
@Colin, Good luck for the coming season (Except when playing us) Good craic mate
Fans/Kim – we should offer Blackburn Ranger on loan for 3mths while Best is out. They may need a striker and Ranger needs a loan move to prove he’s worth keeping. Could be a good solutions all round – well other than poor Besty like. Hope he has a quick and uncomplicated recovery.
Sharpy@161 ,That’s a great idea.
You gotta feel for Blackburn they are really having a bad time of it lately.
he is worth half a crown at the most
SHARPY thats very kind of you to poor b/burn,everything dave says about you is not true then
Ice – it was the boys idea, everything Dave says about me is pretty much spot on
penny pinching comes to mind http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-columnists/newcastle-united-to-tax-their-travelling-fans/?
Kimtoon@163-Oh no you don’t. I bloody hate blackburn! More than the dippers and all
Hope the club have Demba locked up somewhere as well, I’m like a hawk at the moment, waiting for any signs of a Sports Direct chopper en route to Portugal…
Ice – What do reckon our average away support would be? and how many away games are we likely to play this season – as I take it this will include cup and Europa games as well?
If you say 5k travelling fans to 25 away games that would be £125k cost to the club, or an extra quid per fan. As long as the money is kept in the club, it seems fair enough to me like mate.
Newkie – this may sound stupid – but I have a horrible feeling that Chelsea or Man Utd could make a last minute snatch of Ba. Really hope I’m wrong but until that clause expires I’m nervous, despite Bas assurances
SHARPY for me i couldnt give a shit,i stopped going to away games home games enough,means i can go to malta more often
make our shirt deal look small
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2012/07/manchester-united-chevrolet-shirt-sponsorship-deal/?
Ian Dennis BBC Sports is saying on Twitter that WHU have agreed a 2m loan fee with Liverpool with a view to 17m permanent deal should they not get relegated, if this is true, it makes further mockery of Rodgers recent statements about not allowing him to go out on loan.
Ice – no me neither, so it’s probably easy for me to say but if the club have running cost and want to be self sufficient – that £125k could be as many as 5 people’s annual salary, for the sake of an extra quid on an away ticket.
Yeah, Man Utd are in a different galaxy when it comes to sponsorship deals.
Sharpy-Aye, that’s why we should have had a pre season in rural Nigeria or something, a good 48 hours away from any airports
Don’t think Chelski would go for him with all the new blood…but Demba is definitely better than Welbeck and more suited than Hernandez and Berbatov…hopefully they’ll just go for Van Persie….
And the WHU deal for Carroll is being reported on BBC website
Apparently Lee Ryder is saying that no one in the Carroll camp knows anything about it.
The Scum have bid 10mil for fletcher?….
NEWKIE aye mate,and it has been knocked back
thought he would have been handy at 4mill
Newkie
, theyre paying more for him than we payed for Cissé, let’s see if he can equal Cisse’s goal tally 
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Theyre idiots
I take it we still haven’t signed a 1st teamer
tis a pity but he has been setback with injury problems for the last couple of seasons, but atleast he’s not our problem anymore 
So I see Best is out for up to 6mths
Ice-4mil sounds about right, to be honest though we may as well have kept Best and got on with it…10/15mil is pretty ridiculous though…
Andy-Aye, lets see if he can score any goals like Cisse as well, he gets a fair few to be fair, but they’re all bundled in tbh, none of Cisse’s class
And they lost to the monkey hangers pre season? Didn’t even see that, class
cannot understand o!neil he left villa because learner cut the budget on players,and went to scum where short said they have to watch what they spend
NEWKIE careful now pre-season means nowt,remember what happened to toon at a certain pre-season game
Icedog-Maybe they have to watch what they spend because they’re already lining O’neil’s personal pockets?
The backtracking has started in earnest, bbc have removed the carroll story from their site, Talkshite are saying it was premature to announce the deal…
If this is to force fat mick into matching a £19m bid for a player who scored 4 goals last year when we already have Ba and Cisse, They are barking up the wrong tree
Ice-True enough mate….we won’t talk about that again
. Just happy because my old man will be pleased 
CC just checked its still on site mate
hiya everyone
so hope the west ham news is true , carroll wont get a game at the toon and hes far too dear!! theres defo better players than him out there !
NEWKIE pleased to know your dad looks out for the small teams in area,i do me-sel
CC-its still on man, they’re updating it with more info though.
Alreet army
Ice
Sorry mate just read some clown on twatter saying they had removed it, Lots of denials all the same
Ice-He has to mate, he’s a monkey hanger born and bred!
Only other team I care about are the Heed
NEWKIE my old team good on yer mate
Ice-Aye, weren’t you number 9 mate? Lucky bugger like!
Seen that they’ve signed James Brown?Jeff Stelling will be heart broken
CC aye mate its just carroll has returned back to l/pool today so something has to be said true or not
NEWKIE kna 7 mate,aye geff might have to sell his doll
Ice-Ah right my mistake, aye the doll was class
I think it’s funny how many on here run Carroll down that he’s shit and only worth this and that, but I can’t remember them saying that when he was banging them in for us, or I can’t remember many celebrating when he went to the dippers
personally if he comes back i’d be happy but if he doesn’t I won’t worry too much, but I honestly believe he is a better player than what we seen at Dippers and what I seen of him while he was with us is enough for me.
Ice did you not help form the Heed or was Richie spoofing
Big Dave@200 Agree with that.
DAVE you know better than that you must remember taking me by the hand to go watch em,you were first grown up to show me a football
Ice
good one 
Kim
how fickle some fans are 
I honestly believe the Lad has regretted it from he signed but there was fuk all he could do about it. But I just find it funny that fans on here are saying how shit etc he is but still Alan Shearer and a few others think he is the future England No 9 and I would tend to think that they know a wee bit more about strikers than the fans on here running him down 
Newkie – sorry mate, bedtime for boyo again.
My Chelsea concern stems from there interest in Moses. If Wigan want £10m for him, they may think £7m for Ba is a better option.
If Man Utd let Berbatov go for £5m, Ba at £7m wouldn’t be a bad replacement.
Sharpy-True…but I just think that as Torres is bang on for centre forward he’s unlikely to want to partner anyone….will Ba want to play out on the left for Chelsea when he could do the same here? Obviously he could get better wages and titles though…but the way he played out on the left for us in the second half should have put them off…hopefully..
He’d be good for manure, but I get the feeling they want Van Persie and to bring the young uns like welbeck and hernandez through, and with Rooney essentally a guaranteed start I’m not sure they’d fancy him…
http://www.themag.co.uk/guest-writers/olympics-manager-plays-the-newcastle-united-card/?
and I see talksport are saying that Milan will try to get Debuchy
doesn’t surprise me as he seems cheap enough for a top quality French international
Save-Kinda agree with you I’ve never doubted Carroll’s aerial ability, he’s an absolute monster-and a good player if you decide to build your team around him.
I did say earlier that 35 mil wasn’t actually that bad for liverpool, I think most of us accepted it at the time for the circumstances and we were pissed off we couldn’t reinvest it. Luckily for us it’s worked out a dream so now people are getting a bit over critical of him….but still, I don’t see how anyone could rate him for over 15mil, and I can’t see how he’d ever get into our first team..
Dave ,that link you put up ,you beat me to it .
nice touch to change the strip ,once a Toon fan always a Toon fan. 
Dave even*
Newkie ,do you not think he’d get better quality balls played to him in our set up though . People say it would mean a return to hoofball but I would dispute that . I thought his first touch at the Euros in that game was good and he just needs quality balls played into him something he never got at Liverpool . He’s also great when defending set plays as well imo.
Newkie thats fair enough mate I just don’t get the he’s shit etc and he’s only worth a few mil etc etc. I agree I don’t think he is worth more than £15mil or so but I do think if he got back to his best he would be worth more, and I do believe he would be a main stay of the England team for yrs to come.
Newkie we scored 1 goal I think from corners last season and we let a brave few goals in from set pieces Carroll was a beast at that.
I agree he’s not worth more than £15m but if MA wants to pay more who are we to question him ,after all it’s his money to do what he wants with. I’m not his banker ,wish I was though as would be quite rich I imagine
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Kim @ 210 100% could you imagine if fat Tugboat got 12 goals feeding of carrolls knock downs how many Cisse would score feeding of him
Kimtoon-With how we play currently as in 4-3-3? No imo he’d get worse service, our front three with Ba and Benny on the wings is not built for Carroll imo, even more so if Santon is on the left still because he’ll never/can’t cross either. Marveux can cross but is another who much prefers to cut inside and shoot, Jonas is Jonas and Obertan isn’t a winger either. So even with a 4-4-2, we really don’t have the wingers for him.
Add to that our dead ball delivery from either Cabaye or Raylor just isn’t as good as Bartons was imo. People slag him off all the time nowadays, but when you consider how ineffective we are as a team without him taking our corners and drifted free kicks it makes you take note…
I agree with you in that it wouldn’t neccessarily mean a return to hoofball, but I’d rather play like we do in a 4-3-3 with very little of it, and only use it as a tactic when neccessary.
Steve Wraith and cwarr are piping up
thats me away, Be back on at 1 minute past midnight wednesday morning… 
Kim the other thing is even if we did pay £15mil for him its basically like the Dippers paying us a £20mil loan fee for him
Dave- I know, the corner thing is a joke, but I wouldn’t want Carroll on the pitch purely for that kind of danger you know? And to be honest I don’t think he has better attributes, when everything is considered, than Benny, Ba or Cisse,so I don’t know where he’d play…
When you consider Staylor, Bambi, Nolan,Colo all scored from corners in a season where Barton was delivering to now well….We have good headerers in our team, just bad tactics from set pieces imo, and poor delivery.
CC what are they on about
big dave @203, Shearer said the same thing about Heskey and Shola years ago too
Dave, agree he offers something different and very useful.
Carroll does offer something different. But for 19m, he better offer every damn thing
Yeah…I love Shearer don’t get me wrong, but judging by what he says on MOTD most of the time, he doesn’t half talk some shit
Legend or not like… 
DAVE i must say on carroll people say he has no touch,well the way he turned our c/b at sjp was something i never saw him do while he was here,then he took the dive
and he showed a couple of nice touches at the euros in the short time he was on,so maybe he is picking things up,but i cannot understand some to go from hero to zero does not wash,but 12/13mil max for me or move on
Newkie im not doubting you but I think a few of them were from Carroll winning the ball and knocking it down cause I can remember a few goal box scrambles, so I was a big admirer of Joey but I don’t think it was just down to him, saying that I think Cabaye delivers a good ball but we have been lacking in good set pieces.
I have said it before I think Carroll would over more than Ba but thats just my opinion
Toonsoldier I don’t know what he said about Heskey ?? but I do know that Shola had the potential but due to injuries etc he never fulfilled that
But Shearer is not the only one that has said it and im not just basing my opinion on what they said
Big dave
Dont get me wrong theres no one better than carroll at what he does but i dont think we play that kind of football any more, there are just better players out there for less money who will suit us more.
Dave-No you’re defo right, I mean Carroll definitely had an impact on several of them, I just don’t feel that he is the factor we’re missing on with them-its something the lads need to work on seriously.
Cabaye has decent corners-but he’s often left them for Raylor or Benny to take, which makes you think he’s unsure. Well several of Benny and Raylors have gone straight out, so there’s obviously something wrong. Half the time we seemed to be putting it to the back of the box where willo was waiting, which just seemed kinda pointless.
Carroll was good…and if you take his good form then he was great, but better than Ba when Ba was on form? That lad was on fire, was the talk of Europe and people were actually saying he was the best striker since shearer, or even better than shearer. I think the second half of the season has dampened peoples views on him, but for me he is still absolute quality. He’s a faster, a better dribbler, passer, headerer and more versatile than Cisse as well imo.
dave @224 when heskey made his england debut alongside shearer, i think against argentina, shearer said he was going to be the main man!! lol, yeah shola’s had his injuries, but , he has never been convincing enough!!
Ice @223 You took the words out my mouth there ,that was gonna be my next point.
Newkie TBH I haven’t heard anyone say he was better than Shearer IMO he isn’t and never will be
Dave-He’s not better than Shearer, but someone has definitely said that and it was on this blog as well, can’t remember who it was mind..he is our best striker since though, and this season will be about him vs cisse hopefully in a friendly way, and I can’t wait
Just saw this: Fat Sam’s West Ham have agreed a deal with LFC, subject to Big Andy’s personal terms, if I understand this correctly…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9439684/Liverpool-striker-Andy-Carroll-poised-for-exit-as-West-Ham-agree-2m-loan-fee-with-option-for-17m-switch.html
Maybe personal terms is not the way to put it–more like if Andy’ll go for it…
Andy should already know any details though, doesn’t he have the same agent as Nolan and Fat Sam?
Newkie @ 230 we get allsorts on here mate
FSOTC I seen that earlier but apparently LFC know nowt about it and a few sites removed the story
Hmm, that’s me reacting too quickly then, probably.
Yeah, it seemed from the article that the ball was in Big Andy’s court and he had to decide if he’d accept it as a personal matter, but that seems to be moot if Big Dave’s correct and some sites are yanking the story.
FSOTC aye mate i keep dave reet or he gets the wet kipper treatment
rags will dive on any storey and take out or add what they think will sell there shite
Dave-I could swear it was a regular, not just some nutter randomer!
Not that it makes all that difference like
FSOTC so if im wrong blame Ice as he keeps me right
Ice has Richard the great been on ?
Hey–any of you fellows ever hike/walk up around Hadrian’s Wall? Me & the woman are coming up north in August to have a look around & come see a game… if I can get tix…
Newkie it was some of the regs I was talking about
I’ll have to keep an eye on both of you!
DAVE
no mate no sign of him today its his day off too 
he is house hunting like if hes found one with plenty food he wont go until its all gone 
FSOTC yes ive walked a fair bit of the wall in my younger days nowt to shout about imo,but then i was with a young lady,wasnt a lady when we left like
Dave
Ha! Well done, Ice. It seems you had ideas other than history & culture on your mind while you were out there, you scoundrel.
Did you ever check out any of the fort remains & roman museums up there?
Ice @ 244 aye that was when they were building it
so it should be better now that its all built
FSOTC look the wall up on the net mate,they have done a fair bit work on it for tourists.
well ime off laters
FSOTC Ice helped build the forts
@247
Right-o. Reading up a bit now. So long, Ice. I trust you’ll be kissing that lass that you “took to the wall” goodnight, so give her my best.
Wow, Ice, you’re very computer literate for a 2,000 year old man. Good to see the oldsters keeping up with technology.
FSOTC kna never saw any of those forts ect,the village i live now was once a roman settlement about half a mile away,often thought about taking a metal detector round and about but wor lass wont dig the spoil-sport
Too true, Ice. They just don’t go for the metal-detecting-and-digging dates like they used to, do they?
DAVE@249 aye i helped build with you,i had to be there or you would only have built it up-side down,as you lot tend to do
Ah, here’s a lovely view of your fair city, boys:
http://www.hadrians-wall.org/explore.aspx
FSOTC kna joking aside there has been a couple of lads have checked the fields round about me and come up with a few things
defo off now
Right–sayounara!
Take it easy Ice im going mesel so catch you’s sometime tomorrow
Adios to you too then, Dave.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/30/andy-carroll-west-ham-liverpool?
Hmm, its certainly doing the rounds then. Fecking West Ham, i’m tired of all these promoted teams splashing all their cash around, them and QPR, bloody london clubs
Why can’t they be like Norwich and do it sensibly?
Kinda need Carroll himself to come out and say what he wants, that won’t happen though because no matter who or where he says he wants to go he’ll alienate someone
Yeah, Newkie, he’s got himself in a real spot, but I think it’s clear what he wants in his heart of hearts, but it won’t be allowed by his minders unless their price is met.
Aye, the silly bastard should never have left, although he’s probably helped us more by leaving than he could have done if he’d stayed
I think Carroll is a good player and would welcome him back at the toon, but it wouldn’t phase me if he didn’t come back.
His true value is questionable. He was sold for a hyper-inflated amount – about 20m too much imo – and hasn’t lived up to that value, so now he has to prove his worth again. I think a loan move is the best option for us to gauge what that is.
This clip actually shows the Brendan Rodgers interview in question, so it will put any doubts about what was said to rest…. I think there has been a lot read into this……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6YoD2htzP0
PS: I apologize for the lack of English subtitles before and after the interview footage
Sir Bobby Robson, 18 February 1933 – 31 July 2009 RIP, Never forgotten
See Sky Sports are trying to muster up a story this morning stating ‘Foreign club to activate Ba release clause’ what a load of shit. What am I actually paying Sky for again? Tossers.
Don’t agree with slagging the Liverpool bloggers as bin dippers. They never slated us but just defended their corner.
No one has ever said Carroll is a bad player. What has been said is that he simply isn’t worth anything above what we supposedly bid for him (13mil).
I still don’t believe he will come to the Toon and he is simply waiting. In the end he will probably be forced to move to West Ham on deadline day, when its made clear the Toon won’t pay over the odds for him.
It seems to be more and more clear despite Rodgers swaying back and forth that he isn’t wanted at Liverpool now.
What concerns me is that is could be damaging for us, as we are currently waiting for Lille (Debuchy), Liverpool (Carroll) and Twente (Douglas) to buckle under pressure…
If none of them budge, we could end up with nobody and not enough time to go for alternate targets. If we do the tables would have turned and the selling club’s will have the upper hand.
Its important we don’t wait and get players in soon.
“Troy Stavers
July 31, 2012 at 08:28
Don’t agree with slagging the Liverpool bloggers as bin dippers. They never slated us but just defended their corner.”
Troy does not take lightly to name calling. Especially when it involves degrading the opposition by labelling them with his professional trade.
Good old Troyster, the high moral reference point of this blog site
@JJ & Aussie
It does make those who slag the Liverpool fans off look like fools.
They came on here to give their opinions and none of them resorted to slagging us off.
Embarrassing.
If they had lowered themselves to your tactics then you’s all would have turned on them and felt slighted!
How dare they call us!!!
Everyone who has, go to the nearest mirror and repeat these words;
” I am a disgrace, an embarrassment to NUFC”
Do it until it sinks in and you accept Troy was right!
I see SSN is still saying a club from abroad is set to activate Ba’s clause
Roll on midnight and they can shut the F*** up once and for all . 
I didn’t abuse any one Troy, so why don’t you be a man and name the names of the accused
For the record, you are the only person I abuse on this site, because you are special
Hang in there Kim, it will be over soon
Leon Best snapped his cruciate.
@Aussie
I forgot all your mirrors are cracked.
Heard last night it was the rich russian side who are going to activate Ba’s clause.
According to their “Sources” Ba wants to stay playing at the high end of the Premiership. Guess that means us or he’s telling one of the top four to come in for him.
Either way things will become a lot clearer in 14hrs or so
Troy, at least my mirrors don’t have a rape whistle like yours
woo hoo hoo 
Not one post with Judas !
It’s amazing how fickle many of you are.
We all know who you are as well.
Troy Stavers
February 13, 2012 at 12:26
@Gary
I never use derogatory language on this blog.
You absolute fuckin Mong!
___________________
Apparently we have been offered ajax defender Greg van der wiel . Sounds like he would bè a back up should our dodgy Debuchy deal fall over
TC
In fairness to Troy, Gary Watson was a tit.
“Troy Stavers
July 31, 2012 at 09:53
@JJ & Aussie
It does make those who slag the Liverpool fans off look like fools.
They came on here to give their opinions and none of them resorted to slagging us off.
Embarrassing.
”
Troy, I think it was all in jest, and most of the Liverpool guys saw it that way by the end, if not at first.
I’d think of all the people on this blog you’d be the one to understand that – if people do take serious offense, they need to lighten up and take the world of the web a lot less seriously.
Don’t you agree?
“Colin
July 30, 2012 at 16:29
Right guys, thanks for the good laugh but I really do need to go now… I’m hungry and I need to get down to the bins at the bottom of the road before they are emptied.
YNWA”
Hardly taken offensively, he took it in jest, and had a laugh, as the others should do… If you ask me, the world needs more people with Colin’s attitude.
We are serious about the wrong things, and blasé to the things that should be important.
JJ, Troy was fishing for a bite or two
Just do what everyone else does an humor him, its been a while since he has had any attention, so cut him some lack mate 
not everybody humours him, Oz.
Vegas
I was being facetious mate 
some bobby robson quotes to make u smile and remember the man since it was 3 years today we lost him i wont list more as id like others to think of ones or find some
1 Sir Bobby to Bryan Robson: Good morning, Bobby. Bryan: You’re Bobby, I’m Bryan!
2 He’s very fast and if he gets a yard ahead of himself nobody will catch him.
3 I would have given my right arm to be a pianist.
4. We didn’t underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought – after England sneaked through against Cameroon in the 1990 World Cup.
Somehow I thought we were looking at Van der Wiel before, but I guess he got replaced by Pieters, Cissokho and Debuchy on the priorities list. Does anybody else remember Van der Wiel being in the crosshairs?
Sir Bobby on craig bellemy – he is the only man I know that could start an argument with himself
Fans, I think Big Dave was a sniper, we can ask him
We want to sign him, not pop him from the clock tower!
Pup
What a great man, shame I didn’t really appreciate his time at the club cus I didn’t care about football(watching it) back then.
That last one is the best, very much like a Clough quote.
ESPN reporting Big Andy has refused the move to the Spammers.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1128527?&cc=5901
andy mag thats the best thing about history mate u can read and look back and appreciate it,,,, sometimes even more so i’ll post a quote what he said actually in a bit
best one for me was calling bryan robson bobby robson how on earth do u call someone else your own name lol
and for him to say your bobby im bryan… classic !!!!!!!
“What is a club in any case? Not the building or the Directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get out clauses or the marketing departments or the Executive boxes. It’s the noise , the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city” – Sir Bobby Robson
Bobby Robson after we turned Arsenal over at their place, ” Arsenal will never be a great team until they learn to behave the same when they lose as when they win”.
Pup@300 ,That is the best of his quotes right there spot on mate
I also liked “We can’t replace Gary Speed. Where do you get an experienced player like him with a left foot and a head?”
Two great football men for clubs and country RIP both of them.
And what a match that was by the way
Pup@300
Aye I’ve heard that one loads of times, shows his love for the club and for the game.
Curtis Goods finally official
Just checked the official site – good is go
CC
Really? Bout time we got a bloody CB.
Robert
That’s a good one
CC – 6 years deal too – must be handy!
Stardy, he is Australian, of course he is handy
Great news on Curtis ,hope he does well for us
Shame we couldnt get it done last week so he could have given us a taster in the airfix bridge tournament but im sure there will be a dodgy stream or three around for the Den Haag match
enjoying the bobby quotes =)
thanks everyone
theres some pearls on here from him LOL
http://www.dangerhere.com/unclebob.php
i know the name of the site looks dodgy lol but its quotes i swear
I know Sir Alex Ferguson gets some stick about his attitude, but I have never seen such an emotional eulogy filled with warmth and humour that he gave Bobby, no script and straight from the heart and a fitting tribute from one great manager to another.
http://www.laughfc.co.uk/wp/sir-bobby-robson-tribute-his-quotes/
more classics
Reporter to Newcastle’s Shola Ameobi: ‘Do you have a nickname?’
Ameobi: ‘No, not really’
Reporter: ‘So what does Bobby Robson call you?’
Ameobi: ‘Carl Cort.’
pup,
I’d forgotten that one ,classic. 
Robert @314 agree ,it was full of warmth and affection and respect for a fellow manager.
The England team plane was held up while Bobby went storming back into the airport, one of the coaching staff caught up with him and he said, ” That bloody Peter Reid is late again”, the coach then explained that he wouldn’t be turning up at all as he wasn’t selected.
Pup I seem to remember him saying Gazza was as daft as a brush too.
there ya go robert u can see his warmth for him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FTaIvFNEU
im just being soft today i just want everyone remembering him today and having a laugh im smiling reading ppl put different storys about him
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @317
IT was either about gazza or your cat kim
Aussie – I do hear you fellas are good with their hands
(got to be with nowt but Kangaroo’s and Sheep for thousands of miles)
Wasn’t it the chelsea fans who stood and clapped when he walked to the dugout when we went to the bridge for his first away game in charge of us. Such respect for opo managers is a rarity.
Pup ,Nowt is dafter than my cat ,she’s a total nut job .
Pup ,I blame the cat nip meself ,never touch drugs I say.
nowt dafter than your cat??? uv not met big dave or batty on here yet i take it
Was that Stardust or Troy with the schoolboy innuendo?
Hey AMF have you seen this Curtis Good play? What do you think of him?
pup@326 fair point
Have we signed 13 new players since this morning? What? No? Nevermind.
Its pick a player out of the hat time and link him to us
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/264892/Newcastle-eye-swoop-for-Real-Madrid-defender-Ricardo-Carvalho/?
Canada vs Sweden womens….great game
—————————–Krul—————————–
–Tavernier——Taylor——–Collocini——Santon–
——————Tiote————–Marveaux————-
——HBA—————-Cabaye————Ba———–
—————————–Cisse
thats looks good for spuds game!!!!!
I think those players would be better suited to a 442, Stevo.
Ba upfront with Cisse, Cabaye in the middle with Tiote and Marveaux on the left wing.
I certainly wouldn’t play Marveaux as a DM.
Stevo
would have thought this would make more sense
Marvo at CDM
—————Tiote————–Cabaye—————
—-HBA——————Ba———–Marvauew —-
————————–Cissé—————————-
Mind you despite Marvauew showing promise during preseason so far I can see Pardew picking Jonas ahead of him. Also if Simpson isn’t gone/Debuchy is here than I can’t see tav getting a start for that match.
I just wrote a long response to Stevos team but then pressed the back-up button by accident so lost it. I can not be bothered typing it out again.
Lee Ryder @lee_ryder
French sources say Debuchy could be delayed due to discrepancy in fee, player described as “desperate” to get deal done #nufc
3HW
Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
ANDY think it means jabba is not uping fee
Andy-you reckon that’s a long response?
My god, lazy sod
Curtis bloody Good ! Is that our signing Pards was on aboot?
£400k from Melbourne Hearts!
Well I’ve heard it all noo!
Troy- Don’t worry yourself lad, he can’t be any worse than Super Sol
twatter shite why the fk do i look,brain dead
Newkie
More the formation than anything else
I have so had enough of this damn Debuchy business ,It will be a right anti climax if he turns out to be shite.
Kimtoon
To be honest, I do think most people will be underwhelmed (whether they’ll admit to it or not) because most seem to massively underrate Simmo and massively overrate, well, any other full back.
Troy @ 341 you should be grateful for what ever Jabba gives us, what more do you want like he has already saved us from doing a Rangers
As I said I hope good isn’t one of the 2 players that Pards was hoping for because the clock is ticking
Newkie ,tbh I’m kinda hopeing Simmo stays with us as he’s certainly not the worst defender you could have and noone can say he never gives his all.
Dave-I reckon he is, which is why the statement basically told us feck all other than the Deb deal is not really any closer to being done..
Still need quality additions mind having said that.
2hrs and 40 mins to keep hold of Ba
Are we all confident?
Debuchy, imminent new offer from Newcastle
10 THE SPORT | 31.07.12 | 22:00
In the next few hours, the leaders Newcastle need to submit a new offer – revised upwards – in Lille for Mathieu Debuchy. The club was alerted northerner. He expects the fax from Newcastle.
So far, the Magpies were stranded at $ 6 million, including bonuses. This time, President Michel Seydoux expects at least an offer of € 8 million strong, without bonuses.
Seydoux wants at least 8 million without bonus
If it does not get this award, the President of the LOSC could lose patience and cut to the quick by closing the door for the departure of Mathieu Debuchy, which, in turn, absolutely wants to join Newcastle. Remains to see how much the new offer from the English club.
TC @ 352 Can’t see us going that high somehow ,think this ship may have sailed.
Kim I can’t wait till the whole window is closed it bores the shit outta me
Dave ,yeah ,sooner the season gets underway the better for all our sanities.
I’m sweet as a nut me like. Don’t really see what there is to be stressed about
Owt or nowt happening RE Demba ??
That’s only £6.3m kim so possible.
The only thing i’ll say about the google translate jobby is that the article says they ‘should’ make a new offer, not really ‘must’, i.e. its not a deadline and just the reporters opinion
I want debuchy as much as the next fan but as you say, most do underrate simmo. I expect him to be 15/20% better going forward/ on the ball and 5/10% worse defensively (mainly goal line clearances)
Looking at the stats etc. Simpson shepherds the player away from goal, whereas Debuchey dives in with the tackle. Both equally effective but Debauchery picks up more cards. Going forward however no comparison. Debauchery much better.
Something on your mind Prem
I wish. Should have bought a French phone.
Dub @358 I still think MA will find that too rich for a defender.
I walked into my kitchen the other day and the was a magpie sitting on the counter. It looked at me for a few seconds and then flew straight out the window. We won that ‘tournament’ that day.
I’ll be sure to let you guys know if something similar happens on the morning of FA cup final day
Hopefully not kim
Maybe once he heard about van der wiel on the cheap though he pulled out though 
Christ you could have a point there Dub
1 hr 45 mins to hang on to Ba.
Id like to think we were holding out a bit on transfers to see if we would lose ba and need to dedicate extra funds for a striker. Hopefully we’ll pick up a bit in the next week or two….
It still amazes me how many half wits on twatter still believe that all people have to do is bid £7m and hes away, If that was the case he have left two months back.
I remember Llambias saying it cost us £6m to sign Ba and we were getting a player on a free from a relegated club who was more famous for a quote from charva pulis than his goal ratio (good as it was for wham/hoffenheim)
What would his entourage want for signing on fees and agent fees now after last season, The chronicle probably werent far off when the said it was worth about £20m overall…
Could it be that some of the moves that we want to make were waiting for August 1st to come along? Perhaps there was too much uncertainty around Ba’s future to start acquiring players. For instance, if you assume Ba is staying and you spend your wad on defense then suddenly Ba is off, you’re sort of SOL with being able to buy high quality replacement.
If Ba stays, then you don’t need to break the bank on attack and can go ahead and spend on defense as needed.
Or has all of that already been theorized and I am just late to the discussion?
Do you get what I am saying though?
@Chicken
as they say, ignorance is bliss. No wonder you’re chilled out.
Well there we are after all the ridiculous bullshit the clause is void.
Look forward to seeing the mail report Ba joining Spurs for £15m in the morning…
Premandup
Good ol bit of Debauchery…
He will be better going forward, but I always thought Simmo did a *decent* job at that too-most accurate crosses last season and he did overlap and the like to provide space for Obertan/Benny and Barton all of the season before. He does just seem to lack that killer instinct of a natural footballer…like Santon I guess
Did the clause exist beyond media talk and in the minds of fans?
Curtis Good joins a long list of Aussie footballers seeking fame and fortune outside Australia.
http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Abroad/index.html
Bit out of date now – with Cahill in the MLS and Holman at Villa.
Vegas @373
I think you are on the money there….
Curtis Good goal against the Roar…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HmNRaCijPk&feature=related
Two golds for South Africa, that’s two more than anyone expected!
Still waiting for Troy to reply to my “bindippers” question…
And now that Ba stays. Maybe we can wrap up our defender deals and stop talking strikers.
JJ @376 Yeah ,your lad in the pool did very well and looked so shocked to get gold and his dad was going loopy
So ,as I thought Ba has stayed with us .Thank god that drama is over,perhaps things can get moving now .
Kim
Its a massive achievement for our swimmers to get two golds. They overachieve at every Olympics.
Swimming is a sport that gets completely neglected by the ANC government because they don’t see it as a priority sport.
Nearly all our public pools are being left neglected and no money is put into developing new talent. Its all done through hard working private individuals.
All our money goes into football, cricket, basketball, athletics and believe it or not table tennis! Those are our five priority sports and strangely the five we absolutely suck in…
All the sports the government have stayed out of… golf, swimming and to a degree rugby… we have just sky rocketed in.
Just goes to show, politicians know sweet FA about sport and they should stay out of it!
Of those sports I suppose in fairness our cricketers are probably the best in the world, but they just have no BMT. Maybe they need a lesson from our swimmers and golfers.
I can’t believe we are still being linked with a big money move for Carroll
The only way he was ever going to come here was on loan.
I really hope we can seal Debuchy this week and possibly Anita as a quality utility player. Although then there will be no real place for Perchinio unless Pardew sees him as a centreback now.
“Fulham, Southampton, Stoke City, West Ham and Wolves have taken the step of announcing in the last few days that they have been successful in achieving their Category One aim.
Goal.com understands that Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and Middlesbrough are the four other newly accredited Category One clubs.”
Newcastle will apparently be category two!
Can you tell me how long ago it was that Man City had an academy graduate push into their first team? Or Chelsea? Also STOKE are rated above our academy?
What a joke!
JJ I agree with u about Carroll. Think its too much money for someone who is not better than Ba or Cissie. Would rather the 15 odd million we are supposed to be bidding go on other targets to build stronger squad
JJ@380 ,I think we will continue to be linked to him until he goes to W.Ham or the window shuts tbh. All we can do is try and ignore the stuff being spouted by SSN ,Talkshite and Twatter as best we can .Don’t forget all day yesterday a club’ from abroad ‘ was going to be activating Ba’s clause according to SSN. They know nothing ,just like the rest of us and it’s all about getting people to lay bets and stuff ,totally pathetic imo.
I actually don’t mind AC coming back as he offers something different but don’t think we should pay more than the market price just because Liverpool don’t wanna lose face like.
JJ @ 381 yeah i saw about a month ago that we didn’t get it. Cant reapply for two years either
Hope to God there’s still some way of protecting the likes of adam campbell 
So the Hammers look set to offer AC £90k a week for 8 years ! ,that’s utterly stupid for a club in so much debt .Hammers fans must be furious at those reports, one player could single handedly help bankrupt a club ,crazy money for a newly promoted club in so much debt.They must be hopeing to peddle a lot more porn to bankrole thoses wages.
Stokes academy has developed Ryan Shotton and Andy Wilkinson
We develop the likes of Saylor and Krul not to mention Carroll, Forster and NZogbia who have cost near £50m in transfer fees in the last couple of years and were second rate ?
Fuck off
Kim,
They have Nolan on 60k/week for five years and if they get Carroll at 80k/week for 8 years all they are doing is signing their administration forms.
Big Sam must be a bit thick too. I can’t see them finishing above 15th this season.
JJ, it beggers belief has noone been looking at Rangers, Portsmouth at all .
Rangers and Pompey didn’t happen Kim – they were just scare stories started by Jabba to try and get the fans to buy into his austerity measures, that’s what Big Dave told me anyway.
Sorry to appear thick, but what does category 1 and 2 status mean?
Cologne-toon, there are 4 categories in the ‘Elite Player Performance Plan’ (explained in more detail here):
http://www.premierleague.com/content/premierleague/en-gb/youth/elite-player-performance-plan/
…basically, the higher up the list you are (Category 1 is highest), the larger the catchment area for NUFC to recruit young players. You earn the status via a point system based on a whole range of criteria.
…sort of thing.
I’m sure there’ll be an article up explaining it all before long…
More fuel for the fire…
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/liverpool/news/carroll-opts-out-of-europa-league_37529.html
Entertaining headline battle ongoing between Sky Sports and BBC regarding Carroll, BBC came out first with big story that Carroll was named in Liverpools Europa League squad, almost immediately Sky bolloxed that saying he has been left behind, intriguing times!
Looking at it from Mike’s point of view. He will happily take A.C. back, the price is irrelevant, merely a measure of how much he’s mugged LFC. £10m would be good.
Didn’t see AC going to the Hammers at all ,not so sure now as £90k a week is a hell of a lot of money and likely to turn his head.
Hi guys. Sorry for the lack of articles. Had nee internet these past two day but it should be sorted later. Hopefully!
P.S never switch providers!
Whichever way you look at it, money was the instigating factor on Carroll leaving NUFC (wages or/and transfer fee).
Whether he was pushed out or left on his own accord, I’m sure these factors won’t have changed in either the Carroll or NUFC camp. I very much doubt he’ll come back here, although I can picture him in a West Ham shirt I think he’ll still be playing for Liverpool come August 18th.
I’m sick of hearing his name, to be honest. And Debuchy’s.
…at least we’ve added to our defence and signed a centre back anyway. Not exactly what I was expecting/hoping, but I suppose it’s better than another player leaving.
Nee wurries Toons.
I don’t think our lack of a category 1 status is down to our past of bringing through good players as we’re very good at that, whereas the likes of Stoke ect.. are not so good at that, the problem arises on the social issues, like rehousing and education for the young players, there are many of these sort of categories that have to be passed to obtain a certain category status, we apparently failed the majority of these.
Unforgiveable Toonsy, I think you should send us each a written apology and a new Toons shirt with complimentary season ticket.
Thanks Rodzilla!
JJ – I think you should lick my balls
JJ ,Have you seen GB now have a gold
Class act from our lady rowers 
Toonsy ,Hows the little one doing ?
Aye maybe we should put beards on our women and let them row for the men….and pull a similar routine for the football…
Apparently Debuchy is in Newcastle to have a medical. Was reading Ed’s site and someone posted a link to the story…. not sure how true it is
…that’s an oar-inspiring idea Newkie
Oswaldo, …”Our reliable sources report…”
Could be legit I suppose.
It would be nice to see this one finally put to bed, I must admit.
Newkie @408 ,Our womens GB footie team were brilliant against Brazil
Ball licking and bearded ladies? Is this the football blog in my favorites or one of the porn sites in my history?
‘It would be a nice to see this one finally put to bed’
Rodz, I have similar thoughts mid morning my time/very early morning your time, when I log on here and your are drinking and posting
Very good, Oswaldo.
Gold star for you.
Rodz
Rodz @410
Kimtoon-Aye I saw, not bad at all. The canada vs sweden match was great too, those canadians had great technical ability fair play, must be the geordie coach like
Aussie@409
http://whatculture.com/sport/newcastle-transfer-news-matheiu-debuchy-arrives
I think that link is right.
FSOTC@413-And Brazillian bearded ladies at that…
New article, ladies and gents please walk this way…….>
Bugger not working now
That’s the one Kim
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