Marveaux ready to make an impact

So with just one game of our pre-season campaign remaining(the final game is tomorrow at Cardiff) I pose the question of who has impressed you the most.

Now I know you generally can’t read too much into things during pre-season as teams look for fitness and tend to rotate players quite often and you rarely face a full strength outfit, or a real top level one for that matter, even though we’ve faced some tough opposition over the last few weeks, but there is most definitely one person who has impressed me during pre-season.

That man is Sylvain Marveaux who now looks (*touches wood*) to have finally found some fitness after a horrid campaign last time out. Having a full pre-season behind him will help him out no end and hopefully his lengthly injury lay-off will actually prove beneficial to himself and the club in the long run. Remember, we could have had him back sooner but it was decided at the time to get him fixed properly as opposed to just patching him up again.

Dare I say it, but Marveaux could be “just like a new signing” which is handy really considering we’ve not actually signed that many players over the summer. His direct running, trickery, pace and vision can be a real asset to us and we’ve seen, albeit only briefly, that he can do it in the Premier League. I’m looking forward to seeing it more often this time round.

I must give honourable mentions to Gael Bigirimana and Romain Amalfitano who have both played well throughout pre-season, especially “Bigi” as he’s known, who looks as though he could do a job now to be honest. Also Mehdi Abeid has looked sharp during his time on the pitch.

In other news I see that Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa have been left out of the France squad by their new coach Didier Deschamps. Great news for Magpies fans! Of course naturally people have been quick to jump on the bandwagon and look for deeper reasons for their exclusion, such as deep-seated problems between Deschamps and Ben Arfa from their days at Marseille together and, apparently, an injury to Yohan Cabaye which isn’t actually an injury at all.

The fact is that it is a meaningless friendly at the start of a new season. I can guarantee there will be more high profile who either aren’t picked or end up dropping out with mysterious knocks. Move along, nothing to see here…

In more other news the draw for the Europa League is made later on today, and it has been confirmed that Newcastle are seeded for the draw. However there could yet be a sting in the tail as there are some decent teams who are unseeded, most notably the likes of Feyenoord and moneybags FC Anzhi Makhachkala. Newcastle will be hoping to avoid them in the draw for sure.

Have a great day all!

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269 Comments

  1. 1
    BRISVEGAS says:

    Yet to see anybody play, so can’t answer the question posed, but I’m looking forward to the Europa draw.

  2. 2
    geoff777 says:

    I’ve only seen a few pre-season games and not the best of streams.
    Marveaux, Obertan, Bigi are my top 3 performers.

  3. 3
    CC says:

    Ive been impressed with Gosling, He times his runs from midfield well and gets on the end of things. If he improves his finishing he can be a decent goalscoring midfielder.

    He’s another one whos had horrendous luck with injuries as bad if not worse than Marveaux, Hopefully with more matches this season they can get more time on the pitch and show their best form…

  4. 4
    Troy Stavers says:

    None have been outstanding or poor. Non plussed by the whole pre season.
    No real transfers eitherway.
    No great performances.

    I look back at the speculators who get excited over transfer prospects 6 weeks before the window opens and have totally burnt themselves out now.

    Deja vu every 6 months. :roll:

  5. 5
    Troy Stavers says:

    @CC

    If you gamble on buying injury prone players you have to live with injuries to players.

    Both had long historys of injuries and that won’t change.

    Ask Kieron Dyer. :shock:

  6. 6
    The Kid says:

    Personally, I would drop Ba and play Marveaux on the left side of a 4-3-3. Always been a big fan of his. Certain players just look that class above – He is one of these. Very smart in possession and loves to drift into space.

    Hope he stays injury free.

  7. 7
    Troy Stavers says:

    Players who have serious knee injuries and Achilles at an early age never recover fully.

    If they do, they lose their pace. They will be dogged by injuries throughout their careers.

  8. 8
    CC says:

    the kid

    I agree it may have to be Ba or Cisse with wingers or an number 10, We didnt keep the ball well enough playing 4-4-2 last season and looked much better with the extra man in the middle…

  9. 9
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Troy you are a royal tit.

    12 months ago many of us were delighted. It was you that refused to accept the Cabaye may just be slightly better than Nolan, Ba better than Carroll and so on.

    End of January, again, many people were delighted to add a striker to the books.

    This transfer window: we add a central defender and I’m delighted. Tbh even if we don’t for all we know Carr has pulled it out the bag and Good is a decent 3rd choice defender. Who knows.

    We are split between fans that are happy but feel additions could take us forward. And fans that are angry and feel without additions the season will be a “failure”.

    Certain fans will never be happy and content as it doesn’t matter how much we improve, there will always be “weak areas” to improve on. Man Utd came within a whisker of the title, but will still have fans moaning about Evans playing CB, lack of CMs etc. Never happy.

    And it what world a 5-1 victory not a good performance? It doesn’t matter who it’s against, it was a terrific win.

  10. 10
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Why am I even rising to the troll. You were saying the exact same thing about Ba one year ago! 17 goals later…

  11. 11
    MDS says:

    Can we count bigi and amalfitano as signings yet? :)

  12. 12
    aussie magpie fan says:

    What decade are you living in Troy :-) :-) with advancements in surgical technologies plenty of people come back from knee reconstructions etc and play as well as they did before. If you are young it helps as bodies recover quicker. Benny is an example of this…

  13. 13
    Milktoonaus says:

    Troy isnt a real fan. Go support Sunderland like

  14. 14
    Troy Stavers says:

    Off to the beach and I will reply later with my wealth of knowledge

  15. 15
    Troy Stavers says:

    Just a quick one. Trumpet, I think we accepted you were clueless many moons ago and therefore your condemnation of my viewpoint is a compliment.

    Oh yes I am a real fan but some of you hate the truth. ;-)

  16. 16
    Troy Stavers says:

    Off to the beach. :cool:

  17. 17
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    I think maybe you and Big Dave did… But it must be hard to get an actual grasp of someone from all the way up each others arses. :lol:

  18. 18
    Toonshire says:

    I know its a few weeks away but the opening game against tottenham, itll be essential to have an extra player in the middle of the park to handle modric/vdv and whoever plays on the wings gives bale/walker a tough time in tracking back, no problem going forward I imagine.

    That’s where I see Marveux falling a little short (no pun intended) he is, as we know a bit frail.

  19. 19
    Big Dave says:

    ST @ 17 ? wtf have I got to do with this ? If you have a problem with Troy sort it out with him and don’t involve me.
    Anyway TC uses that shit one can you not make something of your own up ? After all your good at making shite up and telling porkie pies that you still havn’t had the balls to admit to :oops: but maybe you find it hard admitting your wrong

  20. 20
    Toon Chicken says:

    Hook, line and sinker… and rod and reel too by the looks of things!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

  21. 21
    BRISVEGAS says:

    Yawnish and tediosity. We need some footy, indeedy we doo doo.

  22. 22
    Sharpy17 says:

    MDS – I personally think we can, although I don’t know that they were supposed to be when they were signed.
    Stand out players for me pre-season have been Marv, Bigi, Amal and Tav.
    I’d love to see Tav make an impact this season similar to how Walker did at Spurs and having seen against Hpool the other night I think he probably could to be honest. I also think Amal will prove to be one of the best unknown freebies to be picked up this season.
    Bigi may take a little while longer but is a real talent and hopefully working with Tiote and Cabaye will come on loads.
    Marv will prove how good he is this season I’m sure.

    Have we signed anyone yet? :razz:

  23. 23
    Wellington says:

    I think Mourinho will take care of Modric for us.

  24. 24
    MDS says:

    Sharpy- I agree- those 4 have impressed me the most as well. All players that we didn’t have available last year.

  25. 25
    Toon Chicken says:

    Live draw here I think >http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/draws/index.html

    In case anyone is interested ;-)

  26. 26
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Big Dave, are you starting arguments again mate :-) :-) :-)

  27. 27
    Toon Chicken says:

    Atromito FC away first

  28. 28
    Toon Chicken says:

    Anyone fancy a trip to Athens? :cool:

  29. 29
    Toon Chicken says:

    Atromitos that should have been

  30. 30
    AngelOfDeath says:

    Time to go greece then. :lol: :lol:

  31. 31
    Jon R says:

    Anyone ever heard of them? :razz:

    I see Liverpool got Hearts.

  32. 32
    Rossco says:

    I just watched the draw with my Greek friend (who is a huge PAOK fan) and he says we have nothing to worry about.

    3rd biggest team in Athens
    Good in the 70′s
    Good Serbian Manager
    Most of the team are greek and their captain is their 20yo right back.
    Stadium is 10,000.

  33. 33
    Newkie says:

    Rossco-That means we have everything to worry about. Stevenage anyone :cry:

  34. 34
    Rossco says:

    Yea and when a Greek says ‘nothing to worry about’ I think EURO BANKING CRISIS!

    So maybe we should just accept we are going no further! :lol:

  35. 35
    Newkie says:

    Exactly! :lol: :mrgreen:

  36. 36
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Amilatrafno
    Gosling
    Bigi

  37. 37
    Rossco says:

    And on topic – Impressed with Marveaux, hopefully he can bring a different dimension to our play down the left. Looks pretty sharp after being out for so long. Could be a great buy in the fantasy football leagues. 4.5mil – Bargain!

    Amil and Bigi looking like good deals, maybe more for the future but hopefully a good few games to play them in the season.

    Looking forward to seeing what Good can do too.

  38. 38
    Newkie says:

    Yeah , on topic Ammy, Biggy, Obertan, Gosling and Marv

    Always knew Marv had the quality and thought that with some good game time Gosling would prove his worth, but Ammy and Biggy look great players, I expected potential but I’d be quite happy for these lads to play a role in cup/euro matches and cover for the first team.

    Obertan looks good, perhaps it’s due to the lack of pressure…hope he can prove his worth this season!

  39. 39
    Big Dave says:

    Aussie :grin: you know me mate, I just don’t know why ST brought me into his debate with Troy, when I haven’t spoke to him from a few nights ago when he made a story up that I said we would be relegation battlers last yr, and when questioned about it he tried to change the subject then started to rant and rave, because he didn’t want to admit he was wrong.
    I have no problem with bantering with people on here but I won’t let ST get away with making up stories about me to try to use it against me. If he had of admitted it I would have forgot about it but he hasn’t, then tries to have a sly dig at me when its Troy he had the problem with.
    To add to that I am fuking pissed of that we still haven’t signed a 1st teamer yet :grin:

  40. 40
    kimtoon says:

    Future prospects Amal, Bigi and Tavs all looked good from the little I have seen with the poor streams and ESPN. First teamers nothing we didn’t already know except Oba looks better and Marv was very good .Oh and we should forget Elliott never PL quality.

    See the Dippers got Hearts then :roll: , Never heard of Atromitos ,so that means we’ll get beat :lol: .

    And still no first team signing yet :sad:

  41. 41
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    If I was a player for us I would be massively insulted if we signed a first team player, they got us into 5th place, what more do we want from them!
    Back up CB & striker and I’m absolutely more than satisfied.

    Yeah okay Dave, so this time a year ago you were just moaning because you thought we were all set for the season…

  42. 42
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Lets not forget:
    “Anything lower than 5th would be a complete failure”
    :roll:

  43. 43
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Big Dave :-) :-)
    I reckon next week we will see someone through the door.. I feckin hope so, or people will end up coming to blows on here :-)

  44. 44
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Where is Icedog?? Haven’t seen him on here for a bit. I hope he wasn’t the negotiator trying to talk Richie out of that McDonald’s store he was refusing to leave :-) :-) he could be there for weeks :-)

  45. 45
    MDS says:

    @43. It will still be tame on here compared to last August.

  46. 46
    MDS says:

    aussie magpie fan says:
    August 10, 2012 at 14:49
    Where is Icedog?? Haven’t seen him on here for a bit. I hope he wasn’t the negotiator trying to talk Richie out of that McDonald’s store he was refusing to leave he could be there for weeks
    ———————————-
    Haven’t seen either of those two in awhile. I suspect foul play of some sort…

  47. 47
    icedog says:

    AMF kna mate would never try to shift richie you would need chains and 20 ton truck to get him oot,not on blog at mo as got my brother over from aussie but will be back soon ;-) hope your watching my back while ime away :grin:

  48. 48
    Newkie says:

    Yeah last year was pretty intense, luckily I was one of the most optimistic so there was no embarrassment for me :mrgreen:

  49. 49
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Yeah, I actually had a read back through the posts this time last year and there was a fair amount of emotion on show. :-) They should make the transfer window go for two weeks and then you will see deals done or not done.. there would be none of this protracted bullshit that we are witnessing now..

  50. 50
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Always Ice, your reputation is safe with me mate.. (cough cough) :-)

  51. 51
    icedog says:

    AMF just popped on to see if we signed anyone while brother having a kip,someone must have poured drink down his throat as i know you aussies are very moderate drinkers :shock: knew i could trust you :roll:

  52. 52
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Ice :-) I hope your brother is working on his tan while he is over your way :-) :-)

    No players as yet mate.. next week will be the one :-)

  53. 53
    sidekick says:

    I have been impressed by Amalfitano and Bigrimana and expect them to get a good few games this season. I also reckon Marveaux will become a first team regular this season.
    With regards to first team signings, I am only concerned about CD ,where I would like someone to compete for a place with Colo and Saylor.
    I would like another striker but a decent one will look at Ba and Cisse and decide he would not get much game time and go elsewhere.

    Off topic, I read an interview with Rodgers on a dippers site on where he needed to strengthen his team.
    He said he was happy with his four players up front, Suarez, Borini ,Gerrard and Downing.
    He never mentioned Carroll at all.

  54. 54
    aussie magpie fan says:

    I’ve noticed rumours that the liverpool owners are open to the thought of selling off the naming rights to Anfield. Not sure how true it is though.. be interesting to see how it plays out..

  55. 55
    kimtoon says:

    Aussie @54 That would go down like a turd in a swimming pool ,would be funnny as though. :lol:

  56. 56
    toonsupersaiyan says:

    BIGIRAMMA

  57. 57
    MDS says:

    Can’t really blame the Lpool oweners. They need to do something to replace the fortune that daglish through out the window in a drunken fit

  58. 58
    MDS says:

    ^^^threw^^^

  59. 59
    wolfie says:

    Very good article Toonsy and I agree with it.

    Marveaux has indeed been marvellous pre-season and I also watched him against Hartlepool where he looked absolute quality and caused them no end of constant problems.

    Amifitano and Biggy look to be two master signings as well, even though it’s early days.
    From what I’ve seen of them, they are not a pair of flash in the pan players, so it’s down to some very good revision from Carr and Pardew bringing these two in.

    Marveaux, (as you say) is like a new signing…but not just any new signing as he looks like a player that we could have easily paid double figures for in the millions…that’s how good he’s looked.

    This Biggy reminds me of a smaller Tiote but appears to possess , not only a defensive approach but also an attacking flair about him, which of Pardew can nurture, ( which I’m sure he can) we could have an outstanding contribution from his this season.

    Amifitano is getting better by the game and looks a real handful down the flank, plus his crossing is a lot better than we are normally used to, so it’s a massive plus for us.

    Curtis Good is an unknown and I haven’t seen him but if he’s had his trials and been signed on a 6 year deal, I don’t think we need to worry about his future pedigree.

    A special mention to Shola as well who has looked sharp and as fit as I’ve seen him in a long time and will be a big asset to us this season if used as an impact sub mostly and bleeds black and white.

    A very very special mention to Sammi Ameobi who not only looks to have added a bit of body mass but also better ball control and pace, plus strength and end product to his game judging by pre-season, which is also a massive bonus.

    Abheid has plugged away and is now finding his feet a bit better, so we could see a few more appearances from him over the season.

    Haris Vuckic is also starting to get his act together which is good, as he somehow looked to be suffering from stage fright in games I saw him playing in, plus the start of the pre-season games and I was beginning to worry about his game nerves and reluctance to take on chances that were begging for him to take, yet he looks much more accomplished in the latter games pre-season, so let’s hope he can push on because he threatens to explode onto the scene, so let’s hope he actually does.

    Overall, I think we will be a stronger force this season in all competitions and if we add one or two more players, I think we can create some shock waves this season and really stamp our authority.

    All in all, a very pleasing pre-season with just Cardiff to play, plus, no real injury worries and a massive plus bonus of a fully fit and raring to go Steven Taylor.

    I can’t wait for the season to start. :grin:

  60. 60
    Newkie says:

    Christ Wolfie, you need to shorten your posts! ;-) On the Good signing, the 6 years did surprise me, he may have the talent but I just hope the 6 year deal doesn’t discourage him too much ala Ranger….

  61. 61
    Newkie says:

    Would surprise me if the Liverpool owners did that…When they initially came in they were contemplating building a new stadium-now maybe if they’d done that and named it something to get the cash to pay for it that would have made sense…but now?

    Not sure if it would be good for us or not, presumably they’d actually get money for it, unlike us, and would be able to buy another few quality players…on the plus side, the fans would be raging and there’d be yet more pressure on rodgers, we need them to get into that cyclical hire and fire that ruined us for the last 8 years.

  62. 62
    Axel says:

    Can’t say i have seen too much of the pre season too say who has impressed most but i am looking forward too watching a fully fit Marveaux this season . I think that lad will give us some much needed attacking flair and edge that Jonas at times lacks , after watching the team against Ado Den Haag one thing i can say is Vuckic did nothing in that game and i am begining too doubt that he will step up to premiership level . On the other hand Bigi looked very much like he is the real deal .

  63. 63
    Axel says:

    Maybe its already been asked on here earlier , but is it allowed for one person to have an investment in 2 football teams ? i can understand Ashley wanting to buy into Rangers ,he could make a killing (money wise) but what happens if in say 3-4 seasons time when they are back in the spl and they qualify for the same european competition as we do . We are in the same group as them in the Europa league and the last round of games after we having won everything , lose to them 2-0 and that 2-0 was just the result they needed to go through as well . :?:

  64. 64
    Newkie says:

    Axel-I always thought that it wasn’t allowed, I know Abramovich sponsored one of the Russian sides, I think it was CSK Moscow and they played Chelsea, there was some debate about that, but as he didn’t have any actual investment in the club nothing was done, or some such bollocks.

    But yeah, pretty sure you can only invest in one club. Perhaps Ashley is going to get Sports direct itself to purchase Rangers shares whilst he as an individual owns NUFC? Not really sure…

  65. 65
    Johno Toon says:

    Axel you can’t own two clubs competing in the same competition. But it may only be if you own majority of the club.
    So we r off to Greece!

  66. 66
    kimtoon says:

    Maybe it will be a case of his investment only entitles him to all merchandising rights but no say in the clubs daily comings and goings,as the previous deal was for JJB sports I think which is Dave Whelan is it not. :?:

  67. 67
    Big Dave says:

    SOLANOSTRUMPET
    August 10, 2012 at 14:27 (Edit)
    Lets not forget:
    “Anything lower than 5th would be a complete failure”

    ST any chance of you showing me where I said this as I take it they are my exact words since you have used quotation marks :?: as you have been known to make up stories to try to prove a point :lol: :lol:

    Kim did Whelan not sell off JJB then started DW sports :?:

  68. 68
    Big Dave says:

    Ice @ 51 :lol: I wonder who would have poured the drink down his throat :?: I would say his bro is guilty :grin:

  69. 69
    andymag says:

    I see ed has posted an article saying pards has taken Adam Campbell to Cardiff with the first team, must disagree with me that its a season too soon. Could be just a last couple of minutes sub to see how he handles it.
    On the article
    Marv, bigi and gabby have looked good in the pre-season and i hope theyre all given a fair go this season.

  70. 70
    Big Dave says:

    Andy I was just about to say that
    Adam Campbell ‏@adamcampbell_
    So happy to be going away with the 1st team tomorrow! It is a dream come true no matter if I get on or not ! #buzzing #ontopoftheworld #nufc
    Good luck to the lad it will do him a world of good

  71. 71
    icedog says:

    DAVE@67 what me! ime a softs drinks man me ;-) ime as honest as a nine bob note :grin:

  72. 72
    Big Dave says:

    Andy meant to add it is probably too soon but it could be just a thanks well done for a good job well done, it will be brill for him to be with the squad

  73. 73
    Big Dave says:

    Ice :lol: :lol: I know your as honest as Batts and you could trust you as far as you could throw Richie :lol:

  74. 74
    Troy Stavers says:

    @ trumpet

    You do make things up to be fair :razz:

    To set the record straight I have made it known that failure to qualify for the Europa league next season would be a failure, whether that be 6th place.

    Trumpet, why do you twist other people’s quotes :lol:

    How can anyone really judge how any of our players have shaped up in pre season. Until they show it in the premier league then you simply can’t gauge them.

  75. 75
    andymag says:

    dave
    aye, as he’s about my age i feel a strong sense that i want him to succeed at the club. probably cus i was never good enough, so its good to see him make it to the 1st team.

  76. 76
    Big Dave says:

    Troy he cant help himself he just keeps digging the hole bigger and bigger, and the silly thing is that everyone has already seen him make a liar of himself by stating that I said we would be relegation battlers, then he couldn’t back it up so tried to change subject and squirm his way out of admitting that he was in the wrong :oops:
    And i’m pretty sure he has just made a fool of himself again so watch for him digging or trying to abuse his way out of another one :grin: ;-) when he goes to show me where I said not making 5th would be a total failure

  77. 77
    kimtoon says:

    Dave ,my bad I thought he was JJB forgot about DW :oops: ;-)

  78. 78
    Troy Stavers says:

    @BD

    He’s always done it.

    This is his quote from this thread about what I was alleged to have said;

    “12 months ago many of us were delighted. It was you that refused to accept the Cabaye may just be slightly better than Nolan, Ba better than Carroll and so on.”

    Absolute twisted words. Why do you do that Trumpet. ?

    We are still waiting for you to find Dave’s alleged quote. :-)

    An old Les Kellet saying; speak the truth or don’t speak at all.

    RIP Pops!

  79. 79
    Newkie says:

    Troy-what if we finish 16 but win the CC? Failure or Success?

  80. 80
    Dick Advocaat says:

    I think BD actually said that not finishing 6TH would be a total failure ;-) Still a tad dramatic if you ask me ;-)

  81. 81
    Big Dave says:

    Kim he did own it up until I think last yr :?:

    Troy he might keep a low profile then comeback on telling us he has a life other than the blog and doesn’t have time to scroll through the blog to find where things are said, but that doesn’t stop him from making stories up by quoting things that Im supposed to have said then not being able to show me where I quoted them, so unless he has the proof he shouldn’t use his version of peoples quotes ;-) he’s no better than the red top rags that spew their shite of what people are supposed to have said

    My saying you can watch a thief but you can’t watch a Liar ;-)

  82. 82
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Newkie

    Of course short term, any trophy is a success. But to finish 16th tells you that you have a poor team and luck has been on your side. Many clubs have won the FA Cup and got relegated the same season. Is that success? Not in my opinion.

    Cups are now secondary and I believe qualifying for the CL is more important than the FA Cup.
    The reason is, you have shown you have a strong enough squad which greatly increases your chances to win a cup in the following season.

    The CL is absolutely huge and should be regarded as equal if not better than the two cups.

    Until they improve the value of the FA Cup then I will maintain that stance.

    If winning the cup allowed entry into the CL then that would increase its worth, making it financially and prestigious

  83. 83
    Big Dave says:

    GB fuked up in the 4×4 :evil:

  84. 84
    AndrewT says:

    Marveaux has looked good! As well as Bigi and Amalfitano. I’m very excited for this season. Just bring in one defender and I’ll be relaxed

  85. 85
    Big Dave says:

    Newkie I know you were asking Troy but I would say that would be a failure I would love us to win something before I snuff it, but I think we need to keep aiming at top 6 ;-)

  86. 86
    kimtoon says:

    Dave@79 :lol: I’m well confused now.

    Troy ,I used to watch world of sport with my Dad on saturday afternoons as a kid in the 60′s and 70′s. Loved it ,my dad was a massive wrestling fan. Lots of them gone now ,but I know dad liked Les and his antics . :grin:

  87. 87
    kimtoon says:

    Dave & Newkie, the only thing I would miss out on the top 6 for is the FAcup ,but that’s cause I’m an old romantic who remembers what it used to mean befor Money and the CL holy grail ruined the game. ;-)

  88. 88
    Big Dave says:

    Kim in the 60′s your giving your age away now :lol: oh sorry I thought he sold it last year but it was 5 yrs ago :???: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6736431.stm

  89. 89
    Newkie says:

    Troy-agree with what you say mostly, although right now i’d prefer to win the F.A cup that get into the CL…next season anyway, once we’ve got a cup under our belt we’ll be free to attack the league properly every season until hopefully we have a squad to compete on several fronts… :shock:

    Not so sure about showing you have a poor team with luck on your side, look at Villa last year, did they finish 15th? Anyway their squad isn’t actually that bad, or it wasn’t rated that bad at the start of the season. They had Given, who at the time was probably rated higher than both harps and krul by our fans, Ireland who loads on here were drooling about when he was on loan because he has that extra bit of class, and Nzogbia who almost everyone wanted back, as well as a proven 20 goal a season striker in Bent, alongside plenty of youth prospects. No matter how good your team is things can still go against you, especially with manager changes and the like….

    Dave-Aye, imo i’d take F.A Cup and one bad season…as long as there were some sort of understandable circumstances like…hopefully not involving a manager change! :lol: :lol:

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    kimtoon says:

    Dave , I can remember it from late 60′s but mostly the 70′s untill around 73/4 , when my teenage activities took over. ;-) :lol:

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    Newkie says:

    Kimtoon-I’m only 21 and whilst I realise the F.A cup isn’t what it was, i’d still love us to win it! Cant quit edecide whether i’d prefer it over a EL title mind…I think it would depend on the opposition..

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    kimtoon says:

    Newkie ,yeah the EL cup is probably more trendy to win but FA cup everytime for me. Having said that I would take any cup in truth to end the drought . :roll: ;-)

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    kimtoon says:

    Also ,god wish I was 21 again ,happy days. :cool:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    Kimtoon

    Grandad Les was a comedy genius and hardest man in his village if not the world! :smile:

    He once went to Sunniside club in Gateshead and bent a 2 inch diameter bar around the back of his neck. Nee one else, bigger blokes, couldn’t do it. He won a dog collar as a prize! :shock:

    Grandma Baba Vanga stayed at home cos she knew the result before he went by reading the tea leaves. :lol:

    Love you grandma & Granda ! ;-)
    Baba & Les RIP

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    andymag says:

    Kim
    so do I ;-)

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    andymag says:

    *@91 that is :mrgreen:

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    kimtoon says:

    Andy :lol: :lol:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    Its ridiculous to think that Boro won the CC and some consider that as being more successful than us finishing premier league runners up.

    Not in my opinion. I couldn’t tell you from season to season who won the CC or even the FA Cup.

    The most important thing to look at now is league positions. If you look at the Toons premier finishes and see we have been in the top 7 on half their period within it is impressive.

    Not many clubs can brag of their records. We can.

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    Big Dave says:

    Well Kim I was too young to watch tv in the 60′s :grin:

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    CC says:

    “Its ridiculous to think that Boro won the CC and some consider that as being more successful than us finishing premier league runners up. ”

    I totally agree :shock:

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    Big Dave says:

    Andy @ 96 as I said I think he has a yr or so to go but as they say if your good enough your old enough ;-) but would love to see him get a 5 min run out tomorrow.

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    kimtoon says:

    Dave @98 :shock: ,please don’t tell me I’m the oldest blogger in town :roll: :sad:

    Troy ,and the only times we was 13th and 14th was under crap managers ,I don’t count our relegation year as that was a total cock up of a season and Big Al had an impossible task to try and save us .

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    Newkie says:

    Troy-Agreed, unfortunately people just like to pick out the winners of cups and titles to show success, and we’re only ever runners up or semis, even though we’ve done it plenty (or come close)

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    Sharpy17 says:

    Evening all,

    Not sure what to make of the Europa draw, pleased were away first leg but know nowt about the opposition like – but it could have been alot worse like.

    I know I’m a broken record, but seeing Lpool sign Joe Allen has just fuelled my frustration at our lack of signings. Frustration further fuelled by the news Ashley is on the verge of investing in Rangers – when the fecker should be completely focused on improving NUFC.

    But on a more positive note, I’m really pleased with Pardews decision to take Campbell to Cardiff. When he didn’t feature against teams like Gateshead and Hartlepool, I didn’t think he was in Pardews thoughts for this season, but Pardew clearly wants the kid involved. Whilst that’s great for Campbell it should also give the likes of Streete and Hooper encouragement.

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    Premandup says:

    Reading an article off newsnow. Funny how people measure ambition by money spent

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    kimtoon says:

    I think we are pretty much in agreement we don’t want shedloads spent just enough to secure our targets ,else what’s the point in doing the scouting of a player if we can’t afford them .There is a house two streets from me which I have watched admiringly for years ,I want that house so much but I won’t get it if offer them thousands less than it’s worth.

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    Newkie says:

    Sharpy-look on the bright side. Namely, Joe Allen is gash ;-)

  109. 109
    Troy Stavers says:

    @sharpey

    Despite Liverpool gaining Joe Allon, losing Bellamy is worse for them.

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    Toby le Rhone says:

    Sharpy17
    If we had signed Joe Allen I would be hugely disappointed

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @premandup

    I haven’t read the article but to spend more money than others is ambitious.

    It’s when you have a crap managers who spend more money that backfires.

    Fat Fred had the right idea but half the managers under his reign squandered the cash. He appointed them do must take the blame.
    He must take credit for SBR and KK.

    Many hated FFS but it was a fine line between hero to zero.

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    Sharpy17 says:

    Prem – I don’t measure ambition on money spent, I measure it on squad improvement. On players brought in against those allowed to leave. I don’t want us to spend 100′s of millions on players – but I do want us to improve the squad. Whether that be buying players, free transfers or loan players – such as WBA loaning Lukaku from Chelsea today as well.

    I’d be lying though, if I said it doesn’t frustrate me that we have a billionaire owner who can slash the cash investing in other football clubs, yet we make transfers difficult by not meeting asking prices by £1-2m and run the risk of loosing our top players through paying lower wages than our rivals.
    Don’t get me wrong, for the future of NUFC it’s great and all that, but does it come with the risk of us dropping behind rival clubs … definately.
    People believe that anything less than top 6 is failure, but can we really expect to keep pace with clubs continue to improve their squad each transfer window by spending money both on fees and wages … not in my opinion.

  113. 113
    toonsoldier9 says:

    evening folks, just back from scotland working for the last two weeks :smile:
    god, its like working in a foreign country ;-) ;-) cant get a newspaper with news about english football, its all about scottish “fitball”, which i thought you could of printed on one page :lol: :lol: :lol: mind you, all they want to talk about is the TOON, and how we are going to do this season, so i reckon we have a canny few toon fans north of the border :smile: :smile: i got the feeling, talk of rangers is “TABOO” :lol: :lol:
    ive just had to rely on texts off my sons, and the internet when i had 3G, which was as rare as hens teeth :cry: :cry: :cry:
    and i have to admit that am not very pleased with our failures in this transfer market as per…… just wish the folks in charge would pay that little xtra to complete a deal :evil: :evil: :evil:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @sharpey

    Please stop falling for the Ashley propaganda.

    We have got money. We are raking money in each season. The TV deal is huge.
    We should be able to spend £20m without Ashley delving into his billion.

    I’m lost with your viewpoint. :shock:

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    jay jay says:

    Fairplay TOONSOLDIER9, I chose Somalia for my missionary work, but you went to Scotland for yours!!!! You got bigger bollocks than me mate that’s for sure :smile:

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    toonsoldier9 says:

    aye jayjay, and i have to go back on monday :sad: :sad: mind thou, its better than wales ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
    troy,like you just said, i too, cant see no reason why we cant spend 20 – 30 per season :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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    Sharpy17 says:

    Newkie/Troy/Toby – I dont know if I’ve worded myself correctly there. I am certainly not disappointed that we didn’t get Allen :shock:
    He wouldn’t get into our team and with Bigi and Amal in for a combined cost of £1m – it’s yet another example of Liverpool spending money on players that would be better spent on their scouting network.
    I simply mean, rival clubs are getting players in with relative easy, while we simply aren’t :???:

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    jay jay says:

    Troy you slut!!! :smile: Don’t forget the one big debt that the club still has to pay ;-)

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    kimtoon says:

    I see the Hammers have had a bid of £9m turned down for Matt Jarvis .Is it me or is £9m a bit steep like.

  120. 120
    jay jay says:

    Decent player with a great cross, not many great crossers of the ball about KIMTOON, but does seem steep

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    andymag says:

    Scottish people knowing stuff about the TOON :shock: :shock: Like fuck they know anything, all our players are apparently overrated, we were lucky last season, all our best players are gunna be sold and we must be shit cus Rangers beat us during a preseason game 2 years ago :roll: .

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    Munich Mag says:

    Troy….Grandma Baba Vanga hasn’t had many airings over the last few weeks… :lol: :lol:

    Troy@112 spot on there, Ashley can spend the money easily, the TV money alone will keep the club ticking along nicely…

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    Munich Mag says:

    andymag judging by your Avatar you are up north of the border….condolences mate… :sad:

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    andymag says:

    I see the allen to Liverpool is all over the media especially SSN, you would’ve thought they signed messi :roll: , Allen may be better than downing and Adam but he’s definetly not worth 15m, though you would’vve thought it was a bargain the way some are talking about it. My guess is that Nicholson claims it’ll be signing of the season, Liverpool will finish 3rd and Suarez will get player of the season after he picks up his golden boot :???:

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    Munich Mag says:

    I have a really bizarre feeling that we could win the Europa League this season…….seriously…..

    If we didn’t have to allow for the Champions League drop-outs I would be even more confident…

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    toonsoldier9 says:

    lol andymag, you upset a scotsman lately?? ;-) ;-) ;-)

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    jay jay says:

    You need to leave that developing nation ANDYMAG :lol:

  128. 128
    andymag says:

    MM
    Aye, born in Singapore but have lived here for 12/13 years now, isnay sow bad, if ya ken what folks takken aboot. ;-)

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    andymag says:

    soldier
    try going to high school(secondary school[for ya English barstarddddssss]), with 700 of them :mrgreen:

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    Munich Mag says:

    andymag@122 it’s all the fault of the big spenders. Anybody who can kick with both feet these days is a 15 million quid man… It’s just an ugrading of the transfer fees to suit the bizarre amount of money in football these days. It’s not Swansea or Allen’s fault, the yare probably ecstatic….if there is someone stupid enough to pay the fee then the player will be sold, and we all know Liverpool have done it before and they never learn…… :roll: There again I wish our owner was as flamboyant with the wedge as the Liverpool owners…

  131. 131
    andymag says:

    Jay Jay
    it will be if we get bloody independence, Salmond would be so shocked he got it he’d shit himself and apologise that he didnt mean it and didnt actually have a plan(and I seriously doubt there is one), whenever he’s asked about certain aspects and how theyd be changed he says something vague and then quotes william wallace :???:

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    Big Dave says:

    Funny how some on here worry about Jabba spending too much of his money, when they have no reason to fear because he won’t leave himsel short.
    As for money showing ambition I thought the teams that spent the most money over say the last 10 yrs have been the most successful teams if it was averaged out

  133. 133
    andymag says:

    MM
    The problem is that it will raise the transfers of average players, prior to the big spending Debuchy would’ve been ours for 4-5m. English youth(ie championship/lower league players) like Ox Chamberbeing sold for so much has made other lower league clubs demand more, like powell going from crewe to Man U for £5m, imagine what a league 1 side could do with 5m compared with the rest of the teams in that league. Its ridiculous and unfortunately it’ll never stop it’ll grow.
    Covering a wide change of topics tonight aren’t we :mrgreen:

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    Munich Mag says:

    andymag

    sorry that you had to swop Singapore for Scottyland mate :sad:

    I was doon your old stamping ground a few years ago and absolutely loved it…. redevelopment job at Clark Quays when that says out…

  135. 135
    jay jay says:

    Dave we have a sound financial model as a club, not like me I’m affraid :sad:

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    Sharpy17 says:

    Troy – I’m not buying into anything mate.

    I agree with you, £20m is a perfectly realistic amount to spend – but I couldn’t give a shite whether it comes from TV revenue, Ashleys billions or the the fucking tea fund to be honest.
    My point is that the TV revenue is paid to Ashley so he still hands the money over – yet so far we are £3.5m up. What I mean is, I wish he was as willing to spend the NUFC money as he seems to be his own on Rangers.
    I also agree with you about Bellamy, still think hes got a couple of EPL seasons left in him

  137. 137
    Munich Mag says:

    andymag you are spot on….but I think us trying to shoe-horn Debuchy out of Lille for 4 mill euros (if that really is our highest bid) is a bit out of order and dissin a serious top French club imo… :sad:

  138. 138
    CC says:

    kim

    I think they knocked it back because in classic dildo peddler style only half the money was going to be paid up front and the rest next year.

    Clubs like west ham should be banned from spending money they havent got yet.

    It still irritates me that portsmouth came and stole a point at sjp a few years back that played no small part in relegating us with a team they should never have been allowed to assemble… :evil:

  139. 139
    andymag says:

    MM
    SE asia is great, so multicultural so the food is great, the people are nice and the rules are so strict you don’t feel scared to just walk about town. The Country/City is like one massive shopping centre too :mrgreen: .

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    Munich Mag says:

    I think this Rangers move will make Ashley an insane amount of money. Watch this space, you heard it here first.

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    andymag says:

    MM
    You’re right, though if news is to be believed it seems more like a case of Lille moving the goal posts, at school we usually smack the back of the head of the guy that does that :mrgreen:

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    andymag says:

    Though we usually give them a pat on the back afterwards as we only have rugby posts :lol:

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    Munich Mag says:

    Andymag…don’t you ever get home sick mate ? Serious culture issues swopping Singapore for Scottyland… :roll:

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    Munich Mag says:

    It’s a pity about Debuchy, cos I got all excited at the thought of the bloke hauling ass up our right wing… still… maybe in January…? Patience is a virtue as they say… ;-)

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    jay jay says:

    Chelsea ticket £55, my cleared funds £57 and my next pay day is 24th August, what am I supposed to do?

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    Big Dave says:

    Jay Jay @ 133 funny enough I was thinking of you earlier when I was reading this :lol: http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120810/campbell-call-deserved-pardew_2281670_2877726

    Obviously not because of footie ability :grin: :grin:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @Big Dave

    Of course thats the case. The big spending clubs are the most successful hence ambitious.

    Prem always gets his knickers in a twist over this one.
    It’s about getting the right manager in to begin with. Good managers spend wisely, crap managers don’t.

    If the toon spent a £100m on quality then we would recoup our money thru prize money and revenue streams.
    Spend £100m on crap then we could go bankrupt.
    (hyoerthetical).

    It’s one of the dumbest arguments that is raised on many occasions on here but particularly by Prem.

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    kimtoon says:

    cc@136 ,Agree re Portsmouth.

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    jay jay says:

    I don’t need to read that to know it’s gingerism you racist pillow biting fuck knuckle :grin:

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    Big Dave says:

    Jay @ 143 well selling your body is outta the question :!: oh maybe to science or Andy could get you a part time job at his garden center as a model gnome ;-) :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    Troy I would say you would be hard pushed to find a generally successful club that aren’t big spenders

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    CC says:

    kim

    Aye it was a disgrace we were bundled out of the door before they finally got their comeuppance the season after.

    Now they have the nerve to cram 606 and ssn with the begging bowl out asking for sympathy, They can fuck right off not for me. They werent bothered about the running of their club when they were winning the cup or playing in euroe even though deep down they must have known they couldnt never afford players like Diarra, Muntari, Crouch, Campbell, Defoe, Distin, Kranjar and James… :x :evil:

  153. 153
    Big Dave says:

    Jay meant to ask hows the Bro doing’ any better :?:

  154. 154
    jay jay says:

    was gonna send you match progams, might get the boy’s to send you something else you chutney ferret :lol:

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    Troy Stavers says:

    @BD

    I’m sure Prem will say otherwise. If we ask that £20m is spent on players, Prem will state that’s what fat Fred did and look where it got us.

    Spend it wisely and see where it gets us. Basics.

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    kimtoon says:

    CC, Get it out your system mate ,we’re having the last laugh now that’s all that matters. :grin:

  157. 157
    CC says:

    kim

    Yep we are certainly having the last laugh now but ill never get over seeing Shearer at villa park after the whistle when them twats should have been docked points well before we’d reached that point.

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    Munich Mag says:

    Ashley surely trusts Pardew and his back up staff with his cash. They have invariably got it right so far with the signings.

    We made nowt on the players who run down there contracts or got fired, but that isn’t all down to Pardew…

  159. 159
    Rodzilla says:

    Well, without even reading the article, or comments, I’ll add my random thought…

    I’ve often wondered which musical instrument would win in a one-on-one (nee blades) fight, the piano or the harpsichord. :?:

    …now, as you all know I’ve always been a fan of late 18th century German Baroque music, and am also Richard Clayderman’s nephew.

    This places me in a difficult situation. :???:

    Nepotism aside however, and after sleepless nights of deliberation (not to mention ghostly visitations from Johann Sebastian Bach’s heavies from the other world), I’ve come to the conclusion that the harpsichord would kick shit out of any piano.

    …also, I watched Alfie Tanner in 2 or 3 friendlies, and he’s looked sharp as fuck from the start. Media Beard looks like this season is his kick-start into the big time, Marveaux is looking like the player I always expected him to be (let’s hope the fucker keeps injury-free!!!!!!), and young Haris seems to be getting a bit of confidence back after a fucking shitty long run of bad luck through injuries.

    …to answer the question quickly… :lol:

    ….I’d say it’s a toss-up between Media Beard and Alfie Tanner. :cool:

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    Big Dave says:

    Troy for all his faults I often feel sorry for FFS because he always backed his managers with money, but so often the managers weren’t right and wasted the money on very average and sometime dross.
    But I have no doubt that he loved the club as much as most fans, and I find it strange that he gets all the stick when in most cases SJH gets away scott free as if FFS made all decisions by himsel

  161. 161
    Andymag says:

    MM
    Living here for so long I consider bonny land home so I don’t miss Singapore that much, though would like to visit it again on holiday at some point.

  162. 162
    Big Dave says:

    Rodz I think it would depend on if it was a grand piano or a baby one ???
    By the way what did you think of the bmxing and are you still using the bull bars :lol:

  163. 163
    Munich Mag says:

    Big D@158 you are right there in certain cases, but FFS wasn’t gambling with his own money, so it was easy for him to hoy the cash about. Agree 100% that he backed some bad managers, but he and his crony’s appointed them in the first place so that lands at his door too. Interestingly enough, where are the old toon managers now…? not too many of them still involved at a higher level ?

    SJH started the ball rolling, brought KK back, redeveloped the stadium, then cutely dipped out at exactly the right time.

    Timing is everything unfortunately…

  164. 164
    Rodzilla says:

    ….just took a quick glimpse at the comments and spotted Dave’s……”Funny how some on here worry about Jabba spending too much of his money, when they have no reason to fear because he won’t leave himsel short”….

    …..Dave, that’s exactly it mate, I’ve said it before :lol: :lol: ….it’s MENTIL how much our loyal fans take into consideration the financial aspect of the modern game. I think I’m like you with regards to not giving a FUCKING HOOT about how much money the fat cunt can save.

    He is running NUFC for fuck’s sake, an institution. It’s about Geordie Pride. It’s about realising what you’ve got and BUILDING UPON IT!

    OK, yeah, I ain’t panicking yet, cos there’s plenty of time, but I will strike Fatty down with FYOOOOORIOOS ANGER (metaphorically) if he doesn’t pull his dirty paw out and spend a minimum of 8 fucking million before the season starts.

    I respect the way we (at NUFC) do business, and don’t get shit on, but there comes a point where the ‘jolly barterer’ becomes a ‘fucking piss-taking pain in the arse’.

    You need to push the boat out every now and again, and if it means spending a couple of million extra to bring more ammo into his guerrilla force, then surely it makes sense.

    As I said, I ain’t worried really, but It’s a tad irksome we ain’t brought any cunt in yet.

    …and before the happy chappies mention the youngsters, yeah, they’re great – love ‘em. But they WILL NOT be able to handle the pressure of playing in a depleted squad amongst their experienced counterparts when the shit hits the fan.

    …and it will ‘hit the fan’ unless the fact cunt takes his eyes off his shitty shops for a fucking minute. :shock: :lol:

    Over to you… :cool:

  165. 165
    Big Dave says:

    MM as I said I know he has his faults but I have always found it strange that he took all the stick while SJH took all the praise, I always remember a couple of things like He asked KK which 1 player in the world would he like and off course KK said Big Al so FFS went and got the ok to go for him. then the board decided that it was time for SBR to go so it was left to FFS to tell him and take the flack for it.
    I also know he made a very good crust but im sure Jabba and SD have and will make a good crust outta us, but some of the same people will hammer FFS while they praise Jabba :???:
    Just saying :grin:

  166. 166
    jay jay says:

    fuck it, I’m booking chelsea then blaming it on big dave :cool:

  167. 167
    Rodzilla says:

    …THERE’S NO PLACE LIKE HOME
    THERE’S NO PLACE LIKE HOME
    THERE’S NO PLACE LIKE HOME

    :shock:

    …is this the fruition of the FIVE YEAR PLAN :?:

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    Big Dave says:

    Rodz @ 162 I agree 100% and IMHO this was the window to push the boat out and give us a real chance of maintaining a top 6 finish and a decent run in Europe, some people on here get on as if we’re asking Jabba to spend £50-60 mil on a couple of £ 20 mil marque signings and a few others, but I haven’t heard anyone ask for crazy money to be spent, but they still go on as if we’re asking for too much. I don’t know any football fans except on here that worry that their club are spending too much :shock:

  169. 169
    Rodzilla says:

    Dave, by the way I noticed the abuse you were getting yesterday.
    I know I can be a twat at times, but just in case you or any other fellow blogger were curious…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is

  170. 170
    Stardust says:

    Troy had a choice, go on holiday to a place he could afford or go to a 5 star hotel in a place he couldn’t – he chose the place he could afford – yet he criticises Ashley for building a self sustaining club? Bizarre and hypocritical!

    Big Dave is entrenching himself in his. “Spend more” position as he is not man enough to admit his thought process has been wrong for years.

    The pair of them are saddo’s :lol:

  171. 171
    Rodzilla says:

    Dave@166, I’m on it mate :lol: ….you’ve gotta laugh though :cool:

    …fucking close-season eh – never a dull moment. :razz:

    I guess suspense makes you stronger.

    Mind games from the top. :cool:

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    Big Dave says:

    :lol: Stardy you crack me up mate, though I have to admit I must be a Saddo with a dodgy thought process as i’ve backed you up before ;-) , now run along we can’t have Jabba doing without his suppository :lol:

    Rod @ 167 abuse ? do you mean of toonclarke :?: if so he is just a bit of a knob head that I have banned a few times :lol: but he keeps trying to get back on with different names :grin:

  173. 173
    Andymag says:

    166
    Tbf we as NUFC supporters know what reckless spending can do to a club and now that we’re financially stable many want to keep it that way, also with the shrewd signings of the recent past many have been lulled into believing that all transfers should be bargain signings, even top class players.

  174. 174
    Rodzilla says:

    sTardis, the big blue police box is waiting for you somewhere Honalooloo, you must enter and travel back to our time :razz:

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    Andymag says:

    Dave @166 that should be

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    Rodzilla says:

    Dave@170, I must admit I found it funny :lol:
    …fair play to you for not deleting the comments though :cool:

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    Stardust says:

    Rodz – Dave – Old School Classics :lol:

  178. 178
    Stardust says:

    Got to admit though – if we sign Anita Dobson – al be fooorious with Ashley – even though he had a bad night been voted off BB and all

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    Big Dave says:

    Rodz at 1st I would have a laugh with him because he came off with some crackers :lol: but he never knew when to wind his neck in, and went on and on like an ariston .

    Andy i’ll keep you right lad ;-)

  180. 180
    Rodzilla says:

    Andy@171, I get your point mate, but I think the reason some fans get pissed off is we all realise reckless spending is fruitless for the long-term security of a club, but we ain’t expecting “recklessness” of mass proportions, we just want players signed. None of our targets are gona be big boys any more. No more “marquee Marks”.

    Personally, I see our competition in the top 7 or 8 just signing players, while we always seem to be quibbling over a million or 2 for a top target.

    …yeah, patience is a virtue – but it doesn’t make it any less a pain in the arse.

    I think just saying ‘SPORTS DIRECT’ should strengthen my reason for frustration.

    …just saying. ;-)

  181. 181
    Big Dave says:

    Stardy Anita use to be a bit of alright if you were in to that sort of chick, as for Rodz – Dave that would make a good sun strip for a Ford Cortina :lol: :lol:

  182. 182
    Big Dave says:

    Reet im outta here catch you’s tomorrow sometime’
    Stardy don’t be a stranger as i’m sure it do’s you a world of good to get your head outta Jabba’s ass for a spot of fresh air for a while. ;-)

  183. 183
    roy cropper says:

    was enjoying the thread until – jam rag – @ 168 started slavering on, so i dont think i’ll bother commenting in this thread.

  184. 184
    Rodzilla says:

    Tardis@+176, I can just see the T-shits now,

    …Anita Dobson, behind the bar…

    …Ryan Taylor, over the wall…

    …I can see it catching on. :shock:

    Roy Crap-arse@181, I’d consider counteracting the slavvering with a backwards triple-spit-drool drop. Back of the neck.

  185. 185
    Rodzilla says:

    eh(?)
    :shock:

  186. 186
    aussie magpie fan says:

    I am all or spending money on players but to pull a figure like 20 – 30 m out of fresh air and say it is a fair amount to pay is incredulous. Does any one actually know what the clubs turn over is??It’s like – accountants r us – on here :-) :-)
    We are heavily in debt but what the hell, lets just spend 20+m year on year anyway :-) :-) :-)
    Funny stuff indeed…

  187. 187
    Rodzilla says:

    HOOMAN :shock:
    ..
    av been commenting on this blog for that lpng noo im not sure wheeeeeeeeeeeee the fook i am already.
    :shock:

    I am every fucking poster on this blog :mrgreen: :lol:

    …now talk amongst yourselves while I go for a shit…

    :| :???: :| :| :x :x :shock: :o
    …. :cool:

  188. 188
    Rodzilla says:

    …that’s better.
    Even after the bad smelling.

    :razz:

  189. 189
    Rodzilla says:

    Spell my shirt, you can’t!!

    :shock: :razz:
    :lol:

  190. 190
    Rodzilla says:

    …kinell :shock: , we got an Oswaldo, just noticed, hang on…

  191. 191
    Rodzilla says:

    ….aye….alreet……yes Officer Titchmarsh, of course your magnolias are spectacular this morning :shock: “positively bonza!”, said the little illiterate tree collector.

  192. 192
    Rodzilla says:

    We are the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx :shock:
    Our great computers fill the hallowed halls :twisted:
    We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx :shock:
    All the gifts of life are held within our walls :???:
    :razz:

  193. 193
    Rodzilla says:

    …yeah whatever, turn arund, tuch the grund, isolated forever :cool: :arrow:

  194. 194
    Newkie says:

    Agree with Aussie. I do think Ashley should stump up the extra 1/2 mil to sign debby and get it over with, and the same for a cb presumably, but to say let’s spend 30 mil season on season without letting any players go? Christ, I don’t think even Manure average out at that, and they’re the biggest football team in the world :shock:

  195. 195
    brisvegas says:

    It was this saturday last year that the season started, and with talk earlier on this thread about what was and what wasn’t said in the past I decided to have a look at what was going on on here just before kick off.

    Just for the record, I spent 15 years as an archivist at the Library of NSW. This sort of thing is in my blood. I don’t do it to embarrass anybody – most of you can do that all by yourselves.

    On the very same date as this thread, last year, Toonsy posted an article called ‘Who has impressed you most in pre-season’ (queue X-Files music)

    I’m not going to review it, but you can find it here if you’re interested (and it is interesting given the names that have cropped up this year).
    http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2011/08/10/who-has-impressed-you-the-most-in-pre-season-4/

    In general, other threads from last pre-season were dominated by our transfer activity – or the lack of a ‘name’ signing, notably a striker; the usual Ashley bitchfest; and rumblings of discontent about needing a full back. With very little imagination, you could swap curent threads and almost get away with it. The words are similar, and they are spoken by the usual suspects

    It’s very instructive to revisit the past. Whenever I do I’m reminded of The Who classic ‘Won’t get fooled again’.

  196. 196
    Rodzilla says:

    I am human and I need to elong, just like every bloody elf does. :evil:

  197. 197
    Rodzilla says:

    You sold it well Biscuit vase, I’m just off for a gander……..

  198. 198
    Rodzilla says:

    …indeed I remember that day well, Brishmork.

  199. 199
    Rodzilla says:

    ;-)

  200. 200
    Rodzilla says:

    I got the will to drive myself sleepless

  201. 201
    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    Rodzilla
    August 11, 2012 at 02:21

    I am human ………

    that debatable Rodz :lol: :lol: :lol:

  202. 202
    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    Vegas – 15 years working at a library :shock: you sound like a bit of a party animal mate :mrgreen: – great post though!!

  203. 203
    Rodzilla says:

    SOUNDGARDEN :shock:
    BADMOTORFINGER :shock:
    RUSTY CAGE :roll:

  204. 204
    Rodzilla says:

    …said Dougal.

  205. 205
    Rodzilla says:

    …and please don’t call me “Rodz”, you fucking sexist dickhead.

    …. :roll:

    …it’s Ms Rod, thank you very much
    :evil:

  206. 206
    Rodzilla says:

    waheyyyy, mentil this shit like, I.E. Australians and stuff, at difrint times of the day anarl that).

    REET.
    BOLLOCKS.
    AM OFF.

    NEEEEET-NEET
    twats

  207. 207
    brisvegas says:

    Oz @ 200 Sorry, did I say library, :shock: I meant secret service.

  208. 208
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Vegas :-) , its easy to confuse the two mate :-) :-)

    Ms Rod, piss off bitch….. :-)

  209. 209
    aussie magpie fan says:

    I was thinking about the chances of our younger lads getting a good run out this season. I have seem many comments about them not being ready for the pace or physicallity of the pl. I was also watching some AFL – Aussie rules football last night and there are plenty of 19 – 20 year olds playing at the highest level. It is a very physical game and very quick and the younger guys adapt well. The same could be said for rugby.. So I find it hard to accept that a 18 -19 year old is not ready for the pl. If they are good enough play them. Time to give them a go..

  210. 210
    brisvegas says:

    It might well be that we have no choice in the matter.

  211. 211
    Big Dave says:

    Rodz you made a few good points through the night :lol:
    Aussie I see you’s have made it onto the bottom of the olympics medal board.
    Aussie on the kids we have been saying that for yrs especially the yr in the CC, we were all saying that this will be the yr for the younguns to get a chance, but its always the same they don’t get a real chance because imo the prem is to important to worry about bedding in younguns. Yeah I am one of the ones that would like to see younguns get a chance but I now realise why they don’t get much of a chance with us in the prem, thats why im all for them going out on loan for some proper regular footie.

  212. 212
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Dave it’s right there a few threads ago in “do we have more squad depth” maybe if you and troy took some time off from noshing on each others every word you could go back in read it.

    We OVERACHIEVED last year. we have to adjust our expectations to the squad we actually have. sure we can hope for 4th. But realistic aims is vital.

    As many people keep pointing out, the europa league isn’t exactly a golden tickets, we can’t splash the cash as we don’t get much back from it and.there’s simply too big a risk hoping for 5th place.

    When did our fans become so bloody delusional. it was one season. if we’d finished 4th last year would we deem.anything less this year a.total failure?!

  213. 213
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Big Dave :-) bloody shit stirer… hasn’t been a good olympics that’s for sure….

    Loans are a good idea but it needs to be to another pl team, so they can get some real experience. Some players can flatter to deceive in the championship.. We need to have them tested at the highest level. Or give them 20 minutes here and there during games we could be considered winning comfortably :-) ( I hope it happens regularly :-) :-) )

  214. 214
    Big Dave says:

    ST do you mean this one
    BIG DAVE @ 76
    August 2, 2012 at 14:31 (Edit)
    For any that say they would be happy with a top 8 finish or anywhere below 6 do you think our best players will be happy enough to hang around st a club that wont be playing in Europe because I don’t.
    I also remember Pards saying in an interview thzt Europe was one of the carrots that he used to get Cabaye etc.
    I personally cant see how anyone would be happy enough not finishing in the top six, yeah we’re not one of the top prem clubs but then they finish in the top 4 i’m not asking for that im only asking for top 6 and tbh I don’tthink it’s that much to ask condidering we finished in 5 th and we have had a transfer window to bring in the players we need to maintain or position or maybe even try to push on up and go for a top 4, as we wern’t that far from it last season.

    Anything less is a total failure.
    I think you will clearly see I said below 6th would imo be a failure

  215. 215
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Okay yes. i think that is an outrageous statement.
    I would love to finish top 6. but to say anything less is a total failure is awful imo.
    I am just looking at our squad (with a couple of additions) and those around us and their experience

  216. 216
    Big Dave says:

    SOLANOSTRUMPET
    August 10, 2012 at 14:27 (Edit)
    Lets not forget:
    “Anything lower than 5th would be a complete failure”

    SOLANOSTRUMPET
    August 3, 2012 at 00:26 (Edit)
    “Anything less than 6th is a total failure”
    The statement that marks the turning of the tide as
    we once again become mocked by the nation for being delusional fans.

    Which one is it Solano 5th or 6th make up your mind :lol:
    not a bit of wonder you stick up for Jabba and Lambastad the 3 of you’s are proven Liars :oops: as its very clear that last week you knew I said 6th but yesterday you stated I said 5th ???
    is it not embarrassing for you to get caught out bullshitting again for everyone to see.
    So in future try getting your facts straight before quoting me, or better still just don’t fuking quote me, because I am really get fuked of with you telling lies about me then me having to sift through blogs to prove im right :evil:

  217. 217
    Big Dave says:

    Aussie but in your heart of hearts do youreally see them getting 20mins here and there ? Because i don’t.
    I would loan them to a championship for a few months then maybe try to get them a spell with a bottom of the prem team :?:
    Have you been watching much of the olympics

  218. 218
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Okay i made a mistake. My feeling on the statement is exactly he same.every other fan in the world would call you delusional.
    As aussie said how many seasons in a row have Liverpool finished above us? we do it once and then we expect to do it every time.
    Im just saying you shouldn’t place heavy burdens on a team for who this experience is New.

    That’s the last i am going to say on the matter. i have better things to do than debate with an angry blogger that acts like a child in every single debate. i made a mistake on the number, clearly i feel the same way regardless of whether you are saying 5th or 6th as you quoted me! how about a constructive answer.to why you feel it would be a failure to finish lower than 6th. Maybe even.a broad perspective by looking at our competitors? our squad? or extra games? or you could just get angry. think i know which you’ll pick.

  219. 219
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Trumpet

    You answered Daves question yet? ? :razz:

    @Begas

    Looks like you’ve caught Trumpets “twisted quote syndrome”.
    Who mentioned spending £30m season on season?? :shock:

    You’s really are the Twisted Sisters. :razz:

  220. 220
    brisvegas says:

    Usually I ignore you, Troy, but I’m curious about what are you talking about this time. :?:

  221. 221
    aussie magpie fan says:

    ST — don’t get all humpity mate.. you went for a wind up and got told.. You have made the same point a number of times over the past week or so.. :-) I’m glad you are going to give it a rest mate..

    BD – haven’t watched much of the olimpics.. most of it happens when I am catching zzz.

    Morning Troyster,, are you talking to me yet or are you still angry??

  222. 222
    Big Dave says:

    ST so your admitting you made a mistake ? Even though you put it in quotation marks to make it look like they were my exact words ? That seem really sneaky to me

  223. 223
    Troy Stavers says:

    Woooooooooo hooooooooo hooooo hooooookkk :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Woooo hoooooo hoooooooohooo :lol: :lol:

    That was the biggest childish girly rant I’ve ever witnessed by Trumpet. Woooookoooo hoooo hooooo hoooo :lol: :razz:

    Absolutely done like a kipper. :lol:

    He’s blowing fairy bubbles out his trumpet at a great rate of knots. :lol:

    Well done Dave you cornered him and he had no where else to go. :lol:

  224. 224
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Regarding playing times.. we saw Fergie get a run out, so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that another youngster will get a go.. I hope it happens..

  225. 225
    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Just got back from holiday in Cornwall. I was in Bude, Troy was, and still is, in St Ives. I was getting shit weather, while, according to Troy, the sun was shining every day where he was.

    Just had time to look at this particular blog. What a laugh. Troy and Dave are on good form.

    I had hoped we’d have signed the tea lady from Ajax by now, but I see the kettle’s still simmering on that one.

    Is the Cardiff game showing anywhere? Can’t comment on topic because I’ve seen nee footie.

  226. 226
    aussie magpie fan says:

    And Sammi got a run out as well….

  227. 227
    Big Dave says:

    :lol: :lol: SOLANOSTRUMPET @ 210
    August 11, 2012 at 10:00 (Edit)
    Dave it’s right there a few threads ago in “do we have more squad depth” maybe if you and troy took some time off from noshing on each others every word you could go back in read it.

    If only you took some time off from noshing on Jabba’s and Lambastads every word you could go back in read it instead of making a smug smart ass self righteous liar of yourself :oops: . hang your head in shame

  228. 228
    Troy Stavers says:

    Im spinning round like a whirling dervish wearing my wedding dress howling at Trumpets hissy fit. :razz:

    It doesn’t get much better than that :o

  229. 229
    Big Dave says:

    Solano @ 216 thats good mate cause I find it hard debating with a liar that doesn’t even have the balls to admit when he’s been caught out, if I didn’t go through the blog to find my quote you would still be insisting that I said that.
    Its not as if its the 1st time either you done the same thing on the same blog when you lied yet again and said that I stated we would be relegation battlers last year. so run along because I just get angry when some Liar is talking shit about what I said, grow a fuking pr of balls your getting on like a wee girl :lol: :lol:

    Sorry Aussie I got distracted there :grin: where was I ? oh yeah the aussies have had a shit olympics :lol: come on the brits ;-)

  230. 230
    Troy Stavers says:

    Soz Begas, you can keep ignoring me, I meant Newkie. ;-)

  231. 231
    Andymag says:

    Just been on Eds site and saw a picture of Anna Ashley(Mike’s daughter) phwaaarrr :twisted: :mrgreen:

  232. 232
    premandup says:

    Troy at 217 “twisted quote syndrome” see your responses to my post at 107. practice what you preach.

  233. 233
    Troy Stavers says:

    @prem

    I don’t have the numbers on the mobile site.
    Please explain and I will respond when I get back from the beach.

  234. 234
    Johno Toon says:

    There is some amount of little bitches on this blog its unreal :lol:

    Delighted for Adam Campbell getting to go to Cardiff with the first team. Hopefully for him and us he pushes on over.next few seasons and breaks into first team. If he is good enough he is old enough

  235. 235
    premandup says:

    me “Funny how people measure ambition by money spent”

    I agree with the points you make that spending money wisely with a good manager brings good results. We also know that clubs with the greatest resources tend to have the most success. Soccernomics showed that it was wages that made the strongest correlation rather than transfer fees. However the simplicity of “we’ve spent more money than you so we are more ambitious” is nonsense. Which was the theme of the article that I was originally posting to.

    “I haven’t read the article but to spend more money than others is ambitious.” So a club that spends £50m is more ambitious than one that spends £20m? really??

    “The big spending clubs are the most successful hence ambitious.
    Prem always gets his knickers in a twist over this one.” :razz:

    “I’m sure Prem will say otherwise. If we ask that £20m is spent on players, Prem will state that’s what fat Fred did and look where it got us.” Would I? Have I? Don’t think so, putting words in my mouth.

    Happy to discuss how ambitious we are compared to other clubs.
    Enjoy the beach

  236. 236
    brisvegas says:

    Dear dear, I think we’re all in danger of turning into lawyers.

  237. 237
    premandup says:

    sorry Brisvegas. :razz:

    so much bitchin and infighting going on I’ll be glad when the football starts.

  238. 238
    kimtoon says:

    Have we signed anyone yet?

  239. 239
    brisvegas says:

    So will I, Prem, so will I.

  240. 240
    Andymag says:

    Is the spurs game 3pm or later as its on ESPN?

  241. 241
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Can’t we all just get along :-) :-)

  242. 242
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Kim, we have signed an Aussie, what more could you want? :-)

  243. 243
    kimtoon says:

    We are supposed to have made a bid of 8m euros (£6.5m) for Anita according to reports in Holland. I know he can cover for LB as well as DMF but would prefer we concentrated on getting a CB in first ,what do others think.Also can’t remember who said it but on a previous thread someone said he’s poor and has a tendancy to hide :roll: .Anyone know much about or seen him regularly.?

  244. 244
    kimtoon says:

    1st teamers Aussie ,1st teamers . Is it o.k for me to have that glass half empty yet :?: ;-) :grin:

  245. 245
    brisvegas says:

    Kim, I think that comment was about the other Dutch guy, the right back. Not seen Anita. Not seen Debuchy, Douglas or anybody else not from England or Spain (or Japan).

    I figure as long as they are internationals they can’t be too bad.

  246. 246
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Not yet Kim :-) keep it half full for another week… next week will be the one :-) :-) :-)

  247. 247
    Axel says:

    KIMTOON he is a good player and started his career as a lb before De Boer started playing him as a DM . The thing is we are now covered in the DM position with Tiote , Perch and Bigi and i would rather we brought in a player that is a true defender than Anita . Lets face it , its not for nothing that De Boer changed his position from LB to DM .

  248. 248
    icedog says:

    all this talk of midfielders/strikers where is the c/h we badly need unless Good is it! i hope not,wonder if the french lad plays for lille today that might tell us something i think ;-) maybe the signing of the dutch lad is a sign of tiote moving on in jan as he is a def/midfielder,oh how the mind boggles :grin: :grin:

  249. 249
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Ice, have you spiked your brothers drink again? :-) :-)

  250. 250
    Munich Mag says:

    I think Troy has made by far the best pre-season impression. ;-) ;-) ;-)

  251. 251
    kimtoon says:

    Bris&Axel ,thanks for the info.So really we should be looking to just getting a CB like I said .I would like us to concentrate on a CB and maybe come January if Pieters is looking fit again go in for him for LB ,what do you all think?. Was the other guy Van der Wiel that was slated then?.

  252. 252
    icedog says:

    AMF kna mate havent spiked his drink,no need he still hasnt woke since the first dose :grin: hes in the huff big time with the aussies effort in the games said they should send the whole lot down the mines when they get home nothing but a pack of lazy greedy mongrels (his words) :shock:

  253. 253
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Ice :-) :-) his words, I can imagine :-) :-) for the record we re not lazy or greedy :-) :-)

  254. 254
    Big Dave says:

    Reet lads and Lasses whats the craic have we signed anyone yet :grin:
    Just reading through there quickly there was some bitchin going on on this thread :lol: I think it was Richie’s fault but he says it was Aussie that started it :lol: :lol:

  255. 255
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Big Dave, I didn’t start it but I’ve thrown in a couple of comments to keep the agro bubbling along. :-) :-)

  256. 256
    icedog says:

    DAVE aussie told me ST was beating you over the head with a big stick,i know nowt about it like but aussie is normally honest when hes off the drink :grin: :grin:

  257. 257
    EvilFranky says:

    Europa League won’t be taken seriously unless we reach the later stages, the kids will be used to gain much needed experience…Pardew has pretty much already said this. He knows we don’t have the players to make a go of it in 4 competitions.

  258. 258
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Ice :-) What’s this come off the drink bullshit :-) :-) that ain’t going to happen :-)
    Good to have your craic back on here mate :-)

  259. 259
    Big Dave says:

    Ice hows the Bro’s heed :lol: you should have known the Aussies cant hold their drink anyway you’ve probably spilled more down your shirt :lol: Ice as for ST he’ll need to get up early in the morning to catch me, and if he has a stick he may pray he catches me clean 1st time :grin:
    Aussie yeah I seen a few of your comments :grin: I hear the Austrilian olympics federation are trying to get Rio to introduce boomeranging and sheep wrestling for 2016 :lol:

  260. 260
    icedog says:

    AMF :grin: dave has the best job on here mate he sticks needles in people and gets payed big bucks for it,all we get is stabbed in the back,nee room in this world now for honest hard working folk :grin: :grin:

  261. 261
    icedog says:

    DAVE thought you would know by now not to bite,i just ignore comments from wum they get sick and try other ploys ;-)

  262. 262
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Ice, I generally have the stab proof vest on most of time now.. people will have shots over anything; like the olympics for example :-) :-)

  263. 263
    icedog says:

    AMF thats bad mate having a go over the olympics,dont think you sent anyone over for them did you,cannot remember seeing any like :lol: :lol:

  264. 264
    Big Dave says:

    :roll: Ice @ 261 :lol: :lol: :lol: is that what it was

  265. 265
    aussie magpie fan says:

    Wankers :-) :-) :-)

  266. 266
    Big Dave says:

    now now Aussie don’t be picking on us :grin:

  267. 267
    Newkie says:

    Troy-I’ve seen fans on other blogs saying 30 million, pretty sure you or someone else on here has said 20 mil season on season earlier on in this post, whether it’s 20 or 30 mil, that as a figure is quite clearly unrealistic at this time.

    Dreamers eh ;-)

  268. 268
    Troy Stavers says:

    @newkie

    I’ve said £20m this window is not asking too much.
    £30m is a huge difference.

    I have not heard anyone on this blog mention £30m season on season which is what you said.

    It’s twisting words to suit your argument. I’ve read Prems poor response and it’s as if he’s denying what I’ve alleged him to have said, but then agrees with everything I’ve said.

    I love the characters in this blog. So many blaggers to feed off. Keep your twisted words coming. I’m as fat as oot here feeding off you’s! :razz:

  269. 269
    Rodzilla says:

    WOOO :o :lol: :shock:

    …some swim that like.

    Let’s gtan back another…

    ….goggles on… :cool:

    …. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :cool:

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