Match highlights of our opening day win over Tottenham for you all to enjoy now, including a rather cheeky back pass from Steven Taylor to Tim Krul!
As I’m sure you’ll have read and indeed seen, it was hardly a vintage match from our perspective but we have three points to show for it which is the aim of the game I suppose. We scored more goals than they did. Canny difficult this football lark isn’t it?
Joking aside, the win reminded of how we started off last season in truth. Solid yet not spectacular but we still managed to grind out results. To do that with a bunch of players who have hardly played in pre-season isn’t bad at all in my mind and means that it can only get better once they all get up to speed.
Howay the lads!
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Benny was the class player on the pitch but captain Jonas put in a shift. Anita will find it hard to dislodge him. Squad rotation might be the future
Still need a centre back and a striker. The fact Anita can play full back means onus shifts onto finding a full back.
Great win but whatever way we look at it, at this moment in time our squad is weaker than last year and we have more games too.
Yeah, Jonas always seems to be able to hit the ground running…maybe he should coach the others or something
peeps keep saying we need this player we need that player well what we need is a centre back full stop.
Stuart – “The fact Anita can play full back means onus shifts onto finding a full back.”
eh
Really hope Johnson doesn’t go to the scum
Yeah Newkie he is a top player, would love to see him here. Jonas, Obertan, Marveux and Johnson all battling for a place on the wings would be immense
Moreno-Exactly. Or him and Benny playing either side of Cisse or Ba…Plus 10mil for him would actually be good business for them, unlike fletcher for 15mil or whatever
jonas is a top player for us even gets back and defends somthing what i couldnt see johnson doing
Aren’t they supposed to be going for Berba aswell? It really is Manchester United B team….or retirement home….
Perfect result yesterday.
Great to see Ba back in goal mode, really was a terrific strike.
Tbh the knocks to Colo and Shola could work in our favour if it forces Ashley to take action. Still a long way to go in this transfer window.
Haven’t had a chance to watch match of the day yet but i’ve heard Liverpool were dire.
This might have done the rounds already:
https://twitter.com/AaronJd21/status/236858136185683968/photo/1
Exactly what I want from transfer rumours! In the camera phone age every single “sighting” should be backed up by photographic evidence.
True, but Jonas would be wasted in an attacking three (imo) he just doesn’t cause enough problems. Plus most people thought Benny would never play for the team, and he does now. Maybe Pards could work his magic again
Moreno-Apparently..Maybe Steve Bruce is still pulling the strings somehow…
Special Agent Bruce is still undercover, he is hidden in Martin O’Niell’s left testicle running transfer operations
Batty @ 9 spot on mate as i’ve always said a lot of fans can point to what he doesn’t do but seem to miss what he does do, he is a tireless worker for the team, and I think we’re a better team for him.
Was just listening to Collymore interviewing Simmo and he says he doesn’t want to leave and never has, I just can never understand some of the stick he gets I heard a few criticize him yesterday, but he was up against one of the best in the prem and he never seems to get much help from who ever is infront of him but some don’t take that into account
Benny was oozing class yesterday, he is easily as good as Bale, Lennon or any prem player you could mention. Just shows we have some world class players at the club. I think Ba, Cisse and Benny all starting will just rip some teams to shreds this season. I thought Simpson played well, credit where it’s due. Walker’s failed clearance led to the first goal and he was nowhere to be seen when Lennon and VDV were left trying to stop Benny. So credit where its due Simpson had a good game and did better than Walker.
Moreno he must have massive testies to hide bruce I don’t even think there would be enough room for his nose
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/120818/exclusive-%E2%80%93-simpson-i%E2%80%99m-staying-newcastle-178980?
DJG-He’s a mile better than Lennon, who only has his pace. As for Bale well I think Benny has a bit of catching up to do, but I wouldn’t swap them because of the magic Benny can provide….Bale’s goals are all kind of, samey and meh
Howay the Brucey
Dave
When I last saw the big black cat mascot I thought…hmmmm…I am sure I have seen those exact dance moves before in The Anson in Wallsend….
Mystery solved, we know where Special Agent Bagpuss is
Newkie @ 18 I sort of agree with you Bale week in week out edges it but Benny has that special thing about him that very view players have, he can turn a game in a blink of an eye, and as for watching you could close your eyes and you would still know when Benny gets the ball because you can here the crowd change the minute he goes with the ball.
Moreno
thats him
NEWKIE, I would say Lennon was just pipped as their MOTM by Defoe. He gave the penalty but we all know what Ben Arfa can be like in those situations. He was good down both flanks and it was his chip to the far post that they scored from. Bale didn’t really do much and doesn’t look like he’s got going yet which was lucky for us.
The beauty of having a player like that and the crowd reacting is that so will 3 of the opposition boys leaving our players unmarked and with space. The right ball at the right time (ie: before he gets tackled) and you can carve people open
Dave-Aye exactly, Bale’s been in the prem a bit longer and so far been more consistent, but I do think he’s a bit overrated in that last season they valued him at 140 million and seemed to think he could play anywhere in the opposition half-like Messi or Ronaldo. They wanted him to dictate play, shoot from all over, and try and beat people through the centre.
He should stick to what he does best and run down the wing, cut in, and put the ball in the opposite corner of the net, but he seems bored by doing that
Benny is pure flair because he can do anything, so you never know where he’ll go
@dave thats a nice interview. its a really difficult one. i do rate him but once squad is up to speed his would be thr first team spot needing.improvement to take us forward. i think our fans need to treat him better so that he is more likely to accept a squad rotation role if debuchy or someone ends up joining.
I think if Pieters was signed it could be the last piece of the jigsaw. We now have so many midfielders it is going to be difficult to keep them all happy so we need to hope we have a good cup run. I think Santon could play as a winger, he looks good going forward and he could play a Jonas role infront of a left footed LB. So we have Benny, Jonas, Marveux, Obertan, Amalfitano, Ferguson, Santon, Sammy. That is a lot of players, plus Tiote, Cabaye, Anita and Bigirimana. So if we get injuries to the strikers we will end up playing like Spain do with 11 midfielders.
Dave, Re Simpson, if he wants to stay and he is committed to the club then why not sign the contract offered? He wont be at the club much longer if he doesnt as he is in is last year and will not be allowed to leave on a free.
He had a decent game yesterday but still went missing for their goal, coming inside and leaving a yawning gap, his crossing was better but I just dont like him as a player and think we can do better.
Robert @ 27 ” if he wants to stay and he is committed to the club then why not sign the contract offered?”
It could be a shit contract he’s being offered and maybe a lot less than what he thinks he deserves ?
we don’t have anyone better
As for you think we can do better ? with who
Robert ” He wont be at the club much longer if he doesnt as he is in is last year and will not be allowed to leave on a free.”
So did we sell Guthrie or did he leave on a free
@Robert, no way Simpson can be blamed for the goal. The cross should have been dealt with.
He was our second best defender last year and has been a virtual ever present since he’s signed.
He definitely deserves a wage increase as his initial contract was signed while we were in the Championship.
Hard to gauge the level though. I would say slightly lower wages than Taylor but Taylor’s wages are enormous so probably not.
I think he deserves the same wages as Santon atm or about 30k a week.
Dave
We don’t know what he thinks he deserves but I think the contract offered is just over 20kpw, which is very reasonable.
Andy Maybe to you £20k a week is reasonable but maybe to him being one of the lowest paid 1st 11 in a top 6 team isn’t
Solano/Dave, You have your opinion and I have mine, he just doesnt do his job for the team consistently enough for me, he took a needless yellow card early on and could have easily been sent off for a later stupid lunge, he has more bad games than good and I just think we can do better in that position and so does Pardew by the looks of the players they are targetting.
I just don’t understand some of the criticism he gets. Obviously to push forward we may replace him. But he did himself proud last year.
@Robert
I’m guessing you don’t rate Willo/Raylor either? We had a fantastic clean sheet record last year and it can’t all have been solely down to Colo. Simmo was one of the stand outs in a make shift defence.
He was playing alongside Willo and Ben Arfa and still looked better than Santon defensively, who was alongside Colo and Jonas.
Solano, Thought we were talking about Simpson?
Robert indeed you are entitilied to your opinion im just asking you 2 questions @ 28 and 29
all players make mistakes but when you consider it was the 1st game and that the players are rusty it can happen even more
So was Tiote’s many yellow cards including yesterday not needless
The other players you bring into the argument have one thing Simpson hasnt got, they all are good at doing something
Robert @ 37 thats your opinion but not everyones
so do you not thing Simmo was good at clearing balls of the line last season because I do and I think he saved us a few games which meant he had a hand in getting us into Europe
Just out of interest what are the other players good at doing
Simpson has good anticipation, positioning is decent and is fairly quick. He doesn’t have the attacking side to his game no, but he is solid. Rarely makes mistakes (you’ll of course now bring up his one mistake against Arsenal).
Most importantly he plays well as part of the defensive unit Pardew has in place. He’s an able cog basically.
Do you think Santon had a better season than Simpson
@Dave
I think unfortunately full backs are only rated if they offer something going forward. For sure that is what takes a full back for the next level but it’s not the bread and butter.
That’s why I’ve asked about Santon. Because for me he was pretty awful defensively last year, however people drool over him for his silky attacking skills.
Alvin Martin on TalkSport last night spent a good deal of time talking about our back line (Colo aside who he thinks is excellent)
He feels Santon is great going forward not so great one on one at the back – I also think he would be far better one on one at RB – which is his natural foot.
Simpson looks affraid of the ball as he is unable to keep possession and use it wisely. Martin echoed the same.
Saylor – he didn’t rate – feels he is last minute lungey and spend too much time facing his own goal – and criticised his positioning.
Pretty much what all of us feel, Simmo and Taylor really need replacing and we will really see the potential of this team.
I agree with you Dave, it’s an unfortunate situation to be in for both the club and Simpson. He’s a hard worker(generally) and is in the starting 11 of a strong team do in his mind he should be getting the 30k+ wages that other people are getting in the team, hell Coloccini next to him gets almost quadrople what he gets. But the club see him as the weak link player than they picked up for 500k in the championship and so isn’t really worth what the big names like Cabaye, Santon and Ba get, that he should just take the reasonable wages that they offer or leave so they can replace him with a big name whilst making money on him.
Clearing the ball off the line doesnt tick many boxes in the skills list of top class fullback, he just doesnt look comfortable at this level and is all obver the place for most of the time, I appreciate your loyalty towards him and its commendable but he just isnt good enough despite what he thinks of himself.
He has been offered a contract the manager thinks he is worth, if its not signed he will be out the door no matter what we think of him.
Good result and good performance yesterday.
My godson was a ballboy yesterday next to the 18yrd line and it was the greatest day of his life!!! coz he got to throw a ball to Tim Krul, he was still hyper when I rang him this morning
A good week will be Pieters in and nobody out, a great week would be Pieters and a CF in and nobody out
“Pretty much what all of us feel, Simmo and Taylor really need replacing and we will really see the potential of this team.”
Stardy so your saying that alvin martin knows as much about footy as you ,which is nowt
I agree with the start of what Robert @43 says, as although Simpson did well to block those shots of the line that’s not his primary role and he should be better at stopping wingers from getting past. What I don’t agree with is when you say “he’s not comfortable at this level”, I feel that he could play for most top half teams and would dominate that position and if he went to a club like Reading or QPR he could really steady their defence and be one of their best players. What we need however is someone a bit more consistant and better at going forward.
ST @ 40 I agree
Stardy @ 41 are you sure it wasn’t Alvin Stardust
did they metion your 2nd fav Willo 
have you a link for that ?
STARDUST I agree Taylor and Perch got pulled all over the place at times. When the ball came in for the one that Krul saved (which was given as offside anyway but looked onside) they were both running into each other as if trying to occupy the same space. When Collo plays everyone has a position and they have to stick to it, the defense is organised. I don’t agree with you that Taylor needs replacing. Yes he can be lungey and out of position at times, but he plays a lot better with Collo beside him and he offers real power in the air that no-one else in the team does. I prefer him to Williamson, who is a similar player but is less brave in the air.
Moreno and Batty it’s not his fault he talks outta Jabba’s ass
watched the game spuds were unlucky deserved a point we didont play well were well off the pace we still need a cb and left bk attacking midfielder who can hit back of the net as we havent any one who can score if our strikers are off form or not in the game like cissie was not in the game need a lampard
@48
Stardy
When you say “Simmo and Taylor need replacing” I assume you don’t mean Stevie T as he’s one of our best defenders and I’ve never heard anyone say in the last two seasons that he needs replacing. If it is Raylor you are talking about then I agree to an extent but feel he is excellent as a backup full-back who has a great freekick on him.
Andymag,
“I’ve never heard anyone say in the last two seasons that he needs replacing”
…unfortunately I have
and his first name is Ziggy
ANDYMAG @53
He probably means both and we will replace them with Pique and Fabio Coentrao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXq5VvYAI1Q
Soton look beast, beating man city 2-1 at the etihad, not looking forward to that encounter
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So City winning at home against newly promoted Southampton is the last result I need for my bet to come in…..just my bloody luck….
Moreno & DJG
3-2 City
Blow the final whistle ref and I am in the money! ……. which the CSA will have great pleasure in removing from my bank account…think I’ll leave it with the bookies for next week…
Moreno you can put it in my bank account
Sweet jesus, I get back in and Dave and Solano are agreeing with each other! Ah and I have allies in defending Simmo debate that will obviously be raged, every single week and every single match he’s in, just like last year
You shall have a fishy on a little dishy
You shall have a fishy
Or a net fulllllllllll
Wheeennnn theee booaaatttt commmeesss innnnnnnnnnnnnn
Doo be do be do be do be doooo doooo doooo daaaaaaaah
Stardy and when are you sending me these pics you said you would
Dave – May I suggest you change your name to Big Dace
Dictionary
Def:’Stardust’
Doesn’t respond to questions with traps for answers to Big Dace
Stardy don’t try that shit with me lad its a longtime from I bit at your smelly bait
saying that I sometimes feel like biting just to make you feel better about yersel 
all I asked was did you have a link and did they mention Willo 
that wasn’t even a sniff you horrible little pug 
Alright lads,
Haven’t been on for a while because I’ve been waiting for my A Level Results for getting into uni. Got them the other day.
Thought we looked a tad nervous at times, expectation this season is higher than last year and I thought that looked evident when in possession of the ball.
Also the 4-4-2 formation does not suit us at all. Cabaye is restricted in what he can done when having to partner Tiote. He is much more effective further up the field and I think we need to explore the 4-3-2-1 formation once again. When we used that last season it suited our style of play a lot better than the traditional 4-4-2
DAVE your having a bad trot lately people picking on yer,we are going have to stop being so forgivening mate it doesnt pay
Hi Zoe hope all went well for you
so are you all set for the land of the mackems 
yeah we were a bit nervous and very scrappy but I put that down to rust, and expect us to keep getting better. On Cabaye I agree I don’t think he offers much in that role and its a shame because he has a lot to offer, so hopefully Anita will change that for us
Ice I know I don’t think it’s doing me any good being a nice guy
Dave, it did. I am off to mackem land! Got two B’s and two C’s. Can’t wait until I go now, going to be so great being up in the North-East during this wonderful season that is ahead for us.
I would like to see Anita partner Tiote in a 4-2-3-1 formation. That way Cabaye would play further forward. Yes we were rusty, I know all about that having played a game today. I think once we get back into the swing of games then that will disappear.
Zoe well done Lass
Big Dace
No links mate, i was in the car – around 9.30pm to 9.45.
Stardy dead on lad that means nowt
it’s not like we don’t hear any other pundits talking shite about our team, so are we to listen to them all and believe what ever they say ? or just when it coincides with what you think 
Seeing a lot of Spurs/Liverpool fans moaning about “wondergoals” like the ones scored by Ba and Gera on the weekend. Wow. They really need to watch our season review dvd and get used to the goals that Cisse and Ba can score
Zoe-well done, although I’m not so sure what’s so great about Sunderland…The north east sure, but sunderland? Still, better than middlesbrough I suppose
DAVE @ 77 thats blob on sport,
still nee richie
Cheers Dave!
Newkie: Yeah a lot better than Middlesbrough! I’ll be making plenty of trips to Newcastle throughout my time there though!
Ice no mate I was going to send him an email earlier, but never got round to it yet
Newkie
. Might go to Stirling if I get the results I want next year. Did well this year though so have high hopes.
My sister goes to uni at boro, it’s such a shithole
Newkie
Where are these fans talking about wonder goals, would like to see this.
ANDY you might have to wear a kilt if you go to stirling mate
Zoe, aye as much as it pains me to admit it, Sunderland isn’t that bad…..still, it’s no Gateshead. Now there’s a place of culture
Andy-
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=296650.0
Here’s a liverpool one, the first comment. The Spurs one was yesterday, just been googling their forums and checking them out. The spurs lot were angry about not getting Ba after yesterday
Ice
Surely you’re not a convert to the Saylor appreciation society.
Big Dace – on a serious note:
I play with a load of ex NUFC reserves etc – they say its common knowledge that Saylor thinks he is Billy Big Bollox and he plays to the crowd. They say he is average at best and Pards has told him to follow Colo’s lead or he won’t play for the club. Apparently his dropping behind the back line and putting out of position is the reason. Still though they say the way he cuts about the place you would think he was club captain.
They also say Simmo is much better in training but the crowd getting on his back badly affects him.
Gulpher I know who you play with
and they say your shite at playing aswell as not knowing what your talking about 
Well then Big Dace – if you know that you know how well informed I am – and officially Saylors gash!
STARDUST,do i like players that give 100% then the answer is yes
For themselves? Or the team Ice? Therein lies the difference!
Cheers Newkie
Ice
Nah no kilt but you have to kill an Englishman under the Wallace monument before your initiated.
ANDY your going to uni heres one for you in case you go there,why do scotsmen wear kilts??
Gulper you stick to playing in your dinghy and leave the footie to us bonny lad
Young Ice and I well keep ye right 
Newkie: I am sure that I will visit Gateshead at some point too!
Why ice
ANDY
its because sheep in scotland can hear a zipper go down at 100 meters 
I love football where else can we disagree and not cause offence because it is our opinion.Think I need glasses because I was at the match and I thought Barfa looked ordinary ,he reminded me of Jinky anonymous for 80 minutes and world class for 10.
The true ones are always the best ones ice
TG now theres a throw back jinky jim,to be fair it did depend on how much jinky had to drink on a fri night like
Ice @ 99
Andy@57 I remember august 1999 on holiday in weymouth .Had to sit in a clubhouse to watch southampton v Newcastle which was full of southampton fans .It was me the girl and the lad in our Toon tops ,standing out like sore thumbs and they beat us 4.2
.There was two lads about 9 or 10 taking the piss ,it’s the closest I ever came to hitting a child .The return game we won 5.0 
I wish I could of seen those smug little faces that day 
.Also that was the season we beat shef weds 8.0 
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Tommy, The match for me was torture to watch but HBA was one of he few bright spots and you have to admit that without his spark, no matter how short, we wouldnt have won that game.
We were struggling and that pen, so soon after the equaliser, gave us the impetus and a huge boost both to the crowd and the team to get us over the line.
I thought that a half-fit Ben Arfa had Spurs pooing in there trousers whenever he got the ball. Comparing him to Jinky Jim is wrong, JJ couldn`t tie HBA’s shoe-laces.
MOM for me was Jonas worked like a bloody trojan all game.
Guys, Simmo is an honest Indian but no where near good enough for where we are going. To be so uncomfortable on the ball at this level is ridiculous. He should have been off last night and could easily have cost us the points. Also anyone knocking Steve Taylor is demented. If he stays injury free he is top quality. The same people moaning about Simmo were the ones moaning when Barton, Beye, Guthrie etc. all left, hes simply not upto scratch.
MM
That’s taking it a bit far, pretty sure I could tie his shoe laces mate…
MM @106,your wrong there mate,jj could drink most of us under the table on fri neet at gosforth dogs along with little bobby before bobby gave drinking up and lost his money on the dogs
not my dogs i might add 
JJ I hope your not a miner
I looked at a breakdown of stats on a blog recently that compared Simmo to Debuchy. Interestingly theres nowt between them and the most obvious difference was Simmo was better at actually defending where as Debuchy was better at going forward in attack. Debuchy also appears to collect more cards probably cause his defending isn’t as sharp as Simmo. The question is would Debuchy be the better player to play ,well I think it depends what your priority is.Idealy you want a player that can do both. I wouldn’t mind seeing Debuchy as a winger though I don’t think HBA would, as in the France game he appeared a little pissed off at how much Debuchy was going forward.
Stardust,
God, you are a prick.
“I play with a load of ex NUFC reserves etc – they say its common knowledge that Saylor thinks he is Billy Big Bollox and he plays to the crowd.”
Ye, they would know he is gash because he made it through the ranks and they didnt…
He has also been first choice for Pards whenever fit, so stop believing their bullshit… That’s if you arnt making it up.
Your Saylor bashing is becoming pathetically boring and your bullshit facts to back up your bullshit opinion are even more boring…
Do us all a favour and sod off…
Thanks.
JJ do you ever mince your words mate
Kim it’s a bit of a pointless one really because the ones that don’t like Simmo won’t change
there was stats out at the end of last season and if I can remember right Simmo was in the top 3 RB’s in the prem, now I know stats don’t tell the whole story but to even be in the top 10 says something.
what will happen if the Demba’s go to ACON
As for getting better than Simmo i’ll take that tomorrow but I just cant see it happening, IMO a CB to challenge for 1st 11 and keep them on their toes is more important, as is a Striker as yesterday showed when Strolla got injured we had to replace him with a MFer
JJ @ 113
get that outta your system 
do you feel better now
Kim
, havent met many soton fans but the one i had met is a family friend and a really nice bloke. i enjoy watching soton and admire theyre excellent youth academy. Got a career on FIFA with them so know a lot of their players. Lallana(winger) is the one to watch, also fox(LB) is ace at freekicks.
I would’ve hit him
I second @116
Kimtoon-Aye, and Debuchy was playing in a “better side” essentially, in an easier league…soo…Simmo really isn’t that bad, but like Dave says, some people have made their minds up. Can you imagine if Simmo had a great header at our own goal like Santon, which would result in their equaliser? There’d be such a witch hunt. In fact someone already said he was at fault for not stopping Gareth Bale of all people from putting a cross in. All the defence were in some way to blame.
In regards to simmo’s forward play well, he put in a great tackle and put their defence under heavy pressure which almost resulted in Ba getting a header in at their goal. His cross later on was put away by Ba. Well, that’s good enough forward play for me tbh
Dave@115 I’m just trying to put some facts out there really ,as you say Simmo was ranked in the top 3 RB list last season .Thing is I have noticed if fans don’t take to a player theres nowt you can say to change their minds. I think there probably is better out there but as yet I havn’t seen anyone we could A .afford or B.been linked with that we could. Much as I like Debuchy i would always worry about his actuall defensive ability. As you said a CB and forward are a must right now.
Dave
Statistically Simmo was the best English defender in the league and I think best RB, so really deserved to be called up by england, would’ve been better than johnson and woul’ve added a million or so to his tag
Ice + Dave
I actually edited it by omitting a few “f’s”… Haha.
Just can’t believe he comes on here and passes his garbage opinion off as fact because its backed up by some bitter ex ressies now playing in his geriatrics turd league…
Going on Simpson’s performance yesterday, he was far better in possession than usual, and as usual solid in defence against the toughest left wing in the country to control in Bale.
Newkie , I just don’t understand why he gets so much stick ,IF he were to get injured for some time i’m sure we would see what he does for us in his absence. Maybe that’s what it’s gonna take for some to open their eyes.
The yellow card issue yesterday is regrettable so early on but really part and parcel of being a defender and like everyone he was rusty. If he hadn’t stopped him and let him go and they had scored Simmo would of been torn to shreads for it ,so he can’t win.
JJ@109… ok then mate, get mucked in ..
kim@104(again)
would yo rather have seen them age 10 after we beat them 5-0? Or now age 20ishafter having been relegated numerous times and seen their best players leave only recently returning to the PL?
KimT@104
Kim
That did it for many in showing how much we needed Saylor.
And ye I do feel better…
I was sure that Danny Simpson would end up with a red card yesterday, credit to him that he didn’t. Apart from going a bit awol for the cross leading up to the Spurs goal I really thought he had a decent game defensively.
Couldn’t understand why Spurs never sat Bale on top of Simmo to take advantage of the fact that he would be nervous tackling from then on in. Still, credit to Danny Simpson for his contribution in gaining a fabulous 3 points. What more can he do than give his best, and he always does that.
I’ve cracked on a couple of times with Stevey Taylor, and he came across as an excellent young man, polite, courteous and a credit to the club. He gives 100% for the club, and is a leader. Alongside Collo he forms the best toon central defensive pairing we have.
Why have a shot at the lad, shoyt stiring if you ask me…
Kim – I think the other thing that should be considered is what is value for money?
There is no doubting that Debuchy is a quality player and could offer something different to the team. But, if it is going to cost us £7-8m or whatever it may be for Debuchy, then he gets a contract of £25-30k plus or whatever … is that value for money? … or would that money be better spent on a CB or CF?!
Simmo is younger than Debuchy and still has time to work on flaws in his game, and his loyalty and desire to stay and play for Newcastle despite the contract issues shows the lads profesionalism.
In my opinion, value for money would be to get Simmo the right contract and not go out and spend £7-8m unnecessarily.
Andy @126 I have thought of them little brats on many occasions ,obnoxcious *spelling little brats ,looked like mini proclaimers
. All the other fans were alright though ,I think their dad was well shown up by em. 
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By the way I asked about your exam results the other day ,how did you get on?
Kimtoon-well I can remember at the end of last season, people were excited to see Perch at full back instead of simmo and suggested that he should actually be our first choice right back (before the games.) After which, where he was alright but generally unremarkable, and noticeably slower, there was none of the first team talk but equally no realisation that Simmo was better there. I guess that was only two games (chelsea/man city?) so maybe it will take longer…but I certainly don’t want him getting injured…
I don’t mind Perch, very good for a DM and decent at CB, generally tidy. But he picked up 5 yellows in his first 5 games at RB, a league record, people hated him, yet now he’s an unbelievable cult figure. There’s no middle ground. Kinda like Santon is an unbelieveable player because he can dribble, and simmo is completely shit because he can’t. I think some people just get too drawn in to enjoying “skilled” players and kind of ignore the fact that some players are just good and what they’re supposed to do and leave it at that.
Sharpy@132 ,Exactly mate ,to my mind it’s gonna cost less to just pay Simmo a decent wage ,after all it’s not been upgraded since the fizzy pop league. He’s settled and really likes it at Toon and gives 100% and is now a father so probably wants a raise for family reasons.It’s not cheap raising a family and if there are single guys earning more then that’s got to be a pisser.
Kim
Going by Andy’s addition to work out your age, I reckon his Math exam didn’t go too well…
Sorry kim didn’t see it
I got(Higher = Alevel kindof Intermediate 2 = between GCSE level and A level)
B for higher English(ecstatic as I was told I wasnt good enough to do it)
B for higher History
C for higher Human Biology(happy as its the hardest subject at school and I thought id fail)
A for Int 2 German
B for Int 2 maths
So all in all I’m happy
Benny was easily MOTM. Other star performers were Sayls, Guti, Krul and Perch.
Thought Simmo was guilty of ball watching for the header that hit the bar; unprofessional. Also, he did a good job of trying to get himself sent off.
I reckon the linesman didn’t see the ball go out because AVB was outside of his technical area and was blocking his view. AVB’s a kn*b!
Thought we played very well throughout, although we spent too much of the first half in our own half; Cisse was anonymous and Ba wasn’t much better. Top drawer goal from Ba though! Were these two fasting?
JJ
, I was going on the fact that she wasnt sure how old they were. {note to toonsy: please add stick out tongue smilie} 
Ya cheeky bastard
B&B
does look like a bond villain though
what i have noticed is that simo was a bit better last season in the first 10/11 games but that was taylor was playing seemed to lose quite a lot when willo played in the back line but is that not taking a bit out of taylors game perhaps thats what pardew is looking at,ill will just leave it for pardew to suss
JJ
He who raises his voice first has lost the argument. Folks who know the situation have commented on it – don’t shoot the messenger.
Don’t see me calling folks ‘pricks’ – shows a lack of class
You sir, are a rotter
Ice
Raylor was the weak link at the start of last season so we picked on him, simmo went largely unnoticed
Newkie ,spot on ,Happy to down on Perch but no one saying god we miss Simmo.
Don’t get me wrong I’ve had a moan about most our players including Simmo on many occasions that’s normal fan behaviour, but to constantly keep snipeing at one individual does no one any good .Massive credit to Perch for showing how good he can be at CB and in MF after the slating he got at times. Likewise Simmo does well to rise above the constant witchhunt against him.
I am soo procrastinating my history essay
, damn it the spanish revolution was dull, why couldnt we do the romans 
Andy @137 Check out the brain on you
well done .
JJ , I think Andy was on about the young boys being 20 ish now ,it certainly ain’t me
B&B @138 I think ramadan ended yesterday .
kim
Stardust (prick),
I couldn’t give a flying f#@ what you have to say anymore… Read enough of your bullshit…
Rather save your breath and just shuttup.
Ps. No need to call me sir, regardless of your inferiority.;)
one of my mates failed all his higher and another got all As
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Kim-Yup, exactly. Hey, I’ve even been annoyed at Cisse when he’s missed easy chances, which he seems to somehow-particularly 1v1 under no pressure. But he’s a god at finishing pretty much any other non chance so hey, I’m not complaining
Like you say, some of the stuff fans said about him/to him on twitter was unbelievable. Fair enough players have to take stick along with the praise, but such insults “I fucking hate you, you’re not even a CC player, you lost us the game vs Arsenal” just embarrassing to be honest. I think some of it, like the twitter abuse, is just kids being stupid and because they don’t get turned on by Simmo strutting his stuff they have to go have a hissy fit
Some of it is because people just don’t rate him, fair enough, everyone has opinions/players they don’t like. I just hope people lay off him a bit, because there’s no way it’ll help him perform or help the squad as a whole.
JJ
I will deal in facts not abuse.
I call your judgement of players into question (whereas I still play to a decent level – you appear not to)
Is it not true that less that 6 months ago you were slating Ben Arfa – saying he was useless and should be sold?
I will trust ex-players opinions who have seen and know a player – above ‘JJ – blogging footy pundit’ who thought Ben Arfa was shocking.
Maybe you need a find a bike shop that sells bikes with backwards pedals.
Dying for you fella – yikes
Stards – Take no notice of JJ, fella. I’ve heard that too about Tayls. I’ve spoken to older people who knew him at school and through his schoolboy football and they say the same. Apparently he’s a chip of the old block.
I did once meet him myself outside the ground signing autographs for young fans. This was when he was getting national honours but before he was in the first team. I didn’t know who he was, so I asked him. Tayls just gave me a bit of a look. This young fan gave me the background, whilst Tayls kept aloof and continued to sign. I said, “well I’ve never heard of you”. He didn’t look too pleased. Top player though Stards. Shouldn’t let his personality cloud your judgment.
Not bad Andy, not bad…
ANDY @150 see you have learnt something already;you know who to copy off
would’ve done if I’d been in any of his classes
andymag, uncle Icedog has got you sussed at 155 big man…
JJ
Everyone is entitled to their opinion without receiving vulgar accusations.
If everyone did that then it would be a crap forum.
Dusty is only stating how he sees it and it’s fair comment even though he’s wrong.
rotter
Stardy deal in facts I think the ex reserves you knew were maybe Jealous
or they know a lot more than Physco Stu as he was a mainstay of the England U21′s 
so not bad for a gash player
the school kids beat rings round you and constantly nut ye 
As for ” I still play to a decent level ” yeah mate I heard
Troy how good a player is the Gulper and I don’t mean when he’s playing the local under 12′s
Robeert @105 very time i say during a game that a player is not doing enough for me, they score ,Think i have to be more critical
Batts how are you doing you rotter
Troy,
Got no problem with people giving opinion, just don’t like when they state bullshit as factual proof…
Stardust,
You basically just proved my arguement against you by mentioning my Ben Arfa blog…
“I will trust ex-players opinions who have seen and know a player – above ‘JJ – blogging footy pundit’ who thought Ben Arfa was shocking.”
Nowhere in the article did I ever say that Ben Arfa was shocking… Yet you state this as fact.
“Is it not true that less that 6 months ago you were slating Ben Arfa – saying he was useless and should be sold?”
Again, no where did I say Ben Arfa was useless, yet you use this in your arguement to discredit me…
Read the article…
and stop embarressing yourself.
Ps. Out of interest, I write my ‘blogs to spark debate and discussion, they don’t nessessarily just reflect my opinion, but aspects of my opinion, with a counter arguement that will encourage interaction with anybody reading the article.
So next time you “tell us” what others have said or written, it might be a bit more believable if you didn’t discredit yourself by lying so much and twisting the truth to strengthen your debate…Just like you have done, so continuously that it has become nauseating with the Steven Taylor debate…
Love Stardust resorts to saying I lack class and then completely lies and reverts to abuse himself because I hurt his little feelings… hahahaha.
Fair enough to accuse me of having no class. I never had have class, but at least I’m honest
Anyway, its past midnight here.
Stardy,
I apologise for hurting your feelings with regards to calling you a “prick”, despite the fact that I do think your are a prick, I shouldn’t be resorting to being so open about it on a friendly ‘blog. So I do apologise… I did lack class
Can we be friends?
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/02/03/ben-arfa-mercurial-talent-or-just-a-highly-gifted-individual/
Here is the article I wrote, that both Troy and Stardy have accused me of saying Ben Arfa is useless and should be sold.
I think you’ll find the contents is far different… And perhaps even, still relevant to a degree.
iam still the only blogger to shut stardust up as he sed i was dead to him
JJ he realy has got to you hasent he
JJ @ 166 well done now just move on and don’t let him get under your skin, because he is a bit fond of getting under peoples skin
Batts I still can’t believe he said that to you
that was rather classless of him the rotter
Sorry Batty,
I cannot respond to that post, as you are dead to me, and men of my class.
One thing I can’t stand in life is a liar Batty, it riles me to the highest degree.
To say:
“JJ – I will deal in FACTS not abuse”, and then go on to tell lies. Well that shows a complete lack of class to me…
I’m willing to forgive him though, for the sake of the blog. And just read his posts as a joke/fairytale/fictional fun in future, but I don’t see how anyone could respect him.
Plus, Saylor is probably my favourite Toon player, so I’ll always have his back…
What has happened to Richie? Too big to get to a keyboard these days?
JJ – you can wriggle like a jellied eel but we all know what you said many times.
I will forgive you’re vile language, I take it you’re drunk.
JJ Richie is back in the UK atm as his Dad isn’t well
“JJ – you can wriggle like a jellied eel but we all know what you said many times.” – Stardust
Do we??
Show me where I said Ben Arfa is useless? And I will officially apologise and admit to my lack of class.
Of you can’t… then you admit you lied, and I’ll forgive you.
Ai Dave,
Thats not good to hear… Too much bad news going around.
Fortunately the football keeps my spirits up these days, instead of making me want to pack it in…
JJ look on the brightside you could be a striking miner
Stardy, while you are googling away frantically… Check out my only comment on the thread…
“JJ
February 4, 2012 at 08:08
Well, just to answer a couple questions.
Some are saying they don’t understand my comparison to a young Ronaldo at Man United. I think the similarities are very evident.
Like Nobby compared him to Santiago in The Game…
And I’m only critical to stir up debate. It’s construtive criticism. I too feel however that once Benny has some more mobile intelligent strikers and perhaps Gabby and Marveaux in there he will be far far more effective.
In the current first XI however, he is a luxury. If that makes sense.”
So Carrick is supposed to be CB tomorrow….see lads, we’re not in that bad a spot…
Dave,
They’ve made a big hoo ha over that, and rightly so I guess, but when you have a Chief of Police that goes on national television and instructs police to “shoot to kill” then you can only blame the government.
The police where threatened with pangas, but I guess the full truth will be hidden like most things and swept under the carpet.
Sad for their families. They get paid nothing and the goverment steals billions. That’s Africa. Good and bad in extremes.
Anyway, I’m off to bed. Nite all.
Stardy, don’t stay up too late x
JJ the same as a lot of things we’ll never really know the truth
Reet thats me outta here be good lads
JJ@172
, he’s slightly ahead of jonas 
Me too
@JJ
But you also posted ;
JJ. January 2012
Finished an article giving my views of Ben Arfa earlier today.
Personally, I think he’s overated and we should sell him in the summer if a decent offer comes in.
Would much prefer a player with greater team ethics.
JJ
I aint got one iota of intention to research the exact time and date you said what and when. Got better things to do. I do know that I remember key things and that’s my understanding of your view on Ben Arfa. I find it cringeworthy your now trying to change your position as Benny plays great.
I believe Troy is of the same opinion about you.
Nite JJ, I’m off too, though will probably be back in an hour when I can’t sleep. Mind you I fell asleep instantly last night after all the activities of the three days away in which I only got a few hours sleep each night cus the other bastards were making too much noise
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@Stardust
I can’t remember JJ’s exact views on HBA in the past, but his blog article he posted was bang on the money at the time.
Proof is in the pudding. HBA wasn’t a team player which is why Pardew wasn’t starting him ahead of the likes of Shola and Obertan despite him being fit!
Got to be honest JJ’s comment about selling him shows how wrong he is tho.
We should be building a team around him, not selling him.
The age old argument goes on about the lack of caps Marsh, Le Tissier and Hoddle got. It’s an English mentality that highly skilled players aren’t team players therefore are not good enough.
He needs to improve on this aspect but it should be us who develops him and not another club.
Got to admit I never really bought the team player line…I mean alright, he doesn’t work as hard as Jonas, but then in our entire team-neither does anyone else. I always felt that he simply wasn’t defensively very skilled, rather than lacking any sort of “team ethic”-indeed, he often tracked back but then gave away silly tackles because he just isn’t that great a tackler, nor is he very strong-indeed he still does.
He’s definitely not comparable with Robert, who like SBR once said took about 20minutes to get to the halfway line after taking a corner
Ultimately it was just that on the wing in a 4-4-2 he’s essentially wasted. A bit like he was last night at first where initially our whole team seemed shackled, then after we went a bit more 4-3-3 and he could roam, he used his magic, got us a penalty, scored it and won us the match.
Our starting 11 is absolutely top class brimming with quality players who woula walk into most teams in Europe apart from right back
It’s always fascinating how people see different things in a game, different performances, etc.
I thought Ben Arfa did some good things. He had some nice touches, did a few eye-catching dribbles, won a penalty, scored. However, he also stood on the ball, miskicked, ran into trouble, made bad passes.
Just about everybody had high points and low points (though I can’t now recall any high points for Cisse) but, generally, just about everybody on the pitch was off the pace, I thought.
I also think Spurs were the better side
if my memories of my emotions are anything to go by. They were far more dangerous in attack and I recall having my heart in my mouth many more times than I jumped out of my chair at our near misses, and anxiety was extreme at the end there.
Maybe a read through our contemporary posts in the Game On section would be telling of how we all felt at the time rather than in hindsight.
We deserved to win – but only because we scored the most goals.
@Begas
I believe the vast majority are agreeing with your views, aren’t they ?
@Harrogate Geordie
I believe theres more quality in this team and squad than SBR’s side.
We weren’t that good if Bellamy was out whereas take one player out of this team we are still capable of scoring.
Cisse will get some serious attention this year with man to man marking and doubling up on him. He is no longer the surprise package. This will free up space for Ba, Benny, Cabs etc and I predict that he’ll still hit 20 goals. He’ll need to learn to drag defenders around and create space for his mates.
On the Benny debate he had 2 hard core injuries to recover from last season and was only 50% early doors. He will be one of the top 5 players in the EPL this year and will light up St James’
@HG
I agree but can’t believe JJ stated in January this year that he would sell him.
Troy
I’m still not convinced you and Stardust arn’t the same person, as you both have the same ability to twist and quote out of context to suit your poor arguements.
I still to this day believe that Ben Arfa, as the complete package, is overated. He has remarkable talent and create something out of nothing. But he just isn’t consisntant enough yet to be considered a world class talent.
If he was, he’d be a regular for France.
The reason why he isn’t is because he isn’t consistent enough, and still needs to mature a bit in his team play.
Nobody has ever questioned his individual brilliance. I do think he has improved massively with better players around him, but he still has a lot to prove before I believe he is as big a player as others believe.
There is a HUGE differenece between, “overated” and “useless”…
Just like you said, Cabaye didn’t appear to be the “class” player everyone made out, but you’d give him time… I believe (after two seasons) Ben Arfa still is a long way from being consistant enough to be considered “world class”.
If were critical of others for twisting your words, yet you do the same thing.
Troy,
I said I would sell him if he doesn’t show some improvement to his work rate and if he didn’t look more effective with more mobile stirkers.
I think there is no doubt he has improved in this regard. Still think he needs to be more consistant though.
Are you denying this is what I said?
Dont be like some extreme religious cult that forms an arguement based on a single extracted verse mate… You may convince some, but only the weak
Really thought you were better than that… Don’t be like Stardust now… hahaha
@JJ
Are you denying saying you would sell him if a decent offer comes in?
@JJ
I’m not Stardust and I’m not using his words. They are his posts not mine. I’m just asking you whether you said in January you would sell him in the summer if a decent offer came in?
Did you or not?
Troy,
I said, I would sell Ben Arfa, if he failed to adjust his game to the team eithic we had, and continued to play too much as an individual.
I think thats fair, because Pardew said something much along the same lines. He has shown enough improvement to stay, as he is an asset. But he still has some way to go in terms of consistancy to be the player some supporters make him out to be already.
Are you willing to admit that your mate Stardust lied, when he said I said Ben Arfa was useless?
Hope you’ve sobered up JJ – you’re language was disgusting last night. Fortunately I hold the moral high ground on you and I forgive you. Looks like I have more class too
You’re still weedling like a worm like a worm though – man up for gods sake and admit you were wrong – we’re all waiting ‘drums fingers’
@JJ
Sorry, you obviously posted a reply at the same time as I posted.
JJ I’m not being like Stardust it’s just I’ve been watching your debate with him and I’ve asked you about this before and you’ve never answered it properly.
In January, you posted one post on a thread stating you would sell him in the summer if a decent offer comes in.
You did not back it up at that time with if he improves on his team game then I would keep him.
I’m just pointing out what you said at the time and asking you to confirm it.
There’s nothing wrong with calling a wrong shot. I got it wrong that buying cheap unknown players would backfire.
So just admit you called it wrong in January and we can move on and it is only fair to Stardust to balance the debate as he is questioning your ability to identify a good player.
@JJ
BTW Stardy calls it wrong all the time as well.
Troy,
As things stand, and based on his performance against Spurs and towards the back end of last season – of course I called it wrong on Ben Arfa.
He has single handedly won us four or five games with individual brilliance.
There are two things to consider though.
1 When I write posts, articles, they are there to spark debate, I want people to argue both sides, if I were to write articles where everyone agreed, and there were no contentious quotes, it would be a boring thread…
2 Ben Arfa has been at the club injured for two seasons, I think at the time he was clearly rusty, or trying too hard to impress fans for their support during his time out. I still do have a fear that he can be too much of an individual, but with the improvements he has shown, it would be stupid to sell him now for anything but silly money and because of his improvement, to arguement to sell him has been proved incorrect.
Nobody is more pleased than me…
Stardy angered me because he didn’t misunderstand me, he simpy lied and failed to apologise.
Stardust,
Sober as the Pope and I still think you’re a prick.
Personally, I’d be far more concerned if my kids were liars like you than used stongish language like me…
So a retract my apology from last night. I must have been pissed to apologise to someone who shows your lack of class in the first place.
Can we move on now?
@JJ
That’s fair do’s and it was a reasonable response but I just wanted to balance the debate.
I don’t ever recall you saying he was useless btw.
I know Stardust. He is serious about having the moral high ground over you but he is a gulper eel.
so it evens itself out.
Tell em to f*ck off JJ… they are only rattling your cage mate
I don’t know whether its an English thing, but for people like Stardust, it appears to be who comes up with the best metaphor, declares himself the winner of a debate…
It doesn’t seem to matter whether your arguement holds no factual consistency or substance.
Oh well, as long as they feel good in their own head I guess. The problem is, to the rest of the world, they just seem like a tit.
Otherwise if all else fails, just tell the guy he bit hard on the trap you set…
Troy, you would have to be the biggest hypocrite on this site
for someone that makes more foot in mouth statements than anyone else, you sure like calling other people out for their words 
You must suffer from self centred blogger memory loss, it is a condition that makes a person forget all the dumb sh*t they have posted on a blog, yet have the ability to recall everyone elses comments.
Have a good look in the mirror my friend, I fear that you will not like what you see
Aussie,
Rattled my cage last night, now I am just curious as to the cultural diversity… and sheer stubborness.
Troy is just a softie who likes a good debate and so do I which is why I’m always happy to oblige. With him its good banter…
The only three posters I’ve never had any time for are Chuck, Workyticket and Stardust, and its because they all have something in common… They lie.
But you’ll never change em I guess, so no point entering into debate or conversation.
JJ, I’m with Aussie Mag. Keep the faith, stay strong and true to your convictions and don’t apologise. Any man who calls Saylor gash doesn’t deserve one Mate for that reason alone never mind all the Benny stuff. Don’t waiver!
JJ – Chuck is on top of my list of wankers…..
@Aussie
Morning my friend.
I must have really got under your skin over these past few months and all the anger has surfaced. Woo hoo hoo hoo
Six smileys!
I predicted I would crack you a bit earlier than this but it’s still a victoire.
How’s the boomerang Aussie ? Still stuck between your teeth?
Wow! It looks like I’ve gained the moral high ground as well over Faussie.
My morality is all sympathy, just what morality should be.
You feel better Aussie, with time and support from Troy, you will acknowledge my superior intellect.
I’m still howling.
Ive got an image of Aussie with his head under the ute bonnet sniffing petrol fumes shouting, ” TROYS DONE ME! I’VE BIT BIG STYLE!”
Whatever retort Faussie comes back with now will never take away the anger shown in his last post . Woooooo hooooooo hooooo hoooo
I hope he ignores me cos that means he is fizzin more than I even thought!!!!
Let’s see whether it will be;
A. Humour = total false cover up
B. More abuse and anger= confirmation of his seethingness.
Or
C. Ignore me = absolutely furious he can’t bring himself to type cos he’s bit his fingers off in such a tissy.
Try typing with your nose Faussie.
7 smileys
Are you using that hand you were dealt with, Troy?
Aussie will be typing furioooooooosly to Begas asking for back up. ! Woo hoo hooo hooo.
Where there’s Punch, there’s Judy.
Oooooops! I’ve just zoomed in on Aussies ute on google earth live and seen the bonnet drop on his napper.
It’s like a scene from Fawlty Towers where Basil beats his mini with a bush!
8 Razzes!
Waaaaaaargh haaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa
Right on cue! It’s Judy!
It’s the cavalry!
Look at the timing of mine and Begas’ posts.
You couldn’t write a script better than this!
You better go and check on Punch in case he’s beat his ute into the sand.
“An angry man is again angry with himself, when he returns to reason.”
Les Kellet 1972
@Aussie
Let’s talk. I don’t like it when you go in the huff.
Why are you so angry with yourself?
An angry man is again angry with himself when he returns to reason.
Publilius Syrus
(~100 BC)
“Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools.”
Les Kellet 1973
‘Troy Stavers is a dickhead’ – Brisvegas 2012
@Begas
You jokin? I thought they were my Grandads quotes.
Feckin lying bastard me Granda !
Woo hoo hoo hoo hooo.
This doesn’t get much better.
Two bites on the end of my rod in one thread.
My bucket is overflowing with Aussie snappers!
Aussie,
I refer to my statement @207
“Oh well, as long as they feel good in their own head I guess. The problem is, to the rest of the world, they just seem like a tit.
Otherwise if all else fails, just tell the guy he bit hard on the trap you set…”
You couldn’t write a better script…
Troy,
Did you start this little episode simply to back up my statement @207?
If so, I must thank you, you are doing a sterling job!!!
@Aussie
I know you are just trying to compose yourself and will come on and either ignore or humour me. Or you will try and say you’ve been out and just came back.
But that doesn’t explain what I’m seeing on google earth live with audio input.
” IM DEVASTATED THAT TROY HAS DONE ME BIG STYLE!! IM FECKIN LIVID! ”
Woo hoo hoooooooo hooooooooo
“I WILL HAVE TO POST ON THE NEXT THREAD AS IF NOWTS HAPPENED”
Woooo hoooo hooooo hoooooooooo
Too true, JJ. Too true.
@Aussie
It must have been so hard holding your anger back for so long as I always knew you used to chew on your boomerang when I taunted you.
Just out of interest, which straw did I use to finally break your camels back. ? Hmm?
I don’t mean camel literally, I mean from what I can see on google earth live you actually have a big hump on your back.
Come on Troy, finish him off with a metaphor!!!
@Begas
Too true ! Too troo! Too troo!
Is that the reality train starting up?
Aussie is now typing foooooriously with his nose but because it’s a pug nose he has, he keeps pressing the erase key.
“which straw did I use to finally break your camels back”
There it is, a bit weak Troy, but still… right on queue…
@Jj
I only use the metaphors to get the bite. It’s way past that stage. I’m more worried about his health at the moment. He’s jammed his his nose in the keyboard.
:-):-)
It’s a funny sight. He’s banging his ute with a bush with a keyboard stuck on the end of his nose.
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 14:21
How can some of you say Barfa’s creativity has been missed? He’s done nowt since his injury and was never involved in the great run we had at the start of the season. He looked terrible in his last game.
Poor opinions.”
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 14:34
@rodz
What I do know is that Barfa may be an outstanding player but since his injury he’s been 3 yds off the pace.
That is fully understandable and he needs 6 months injury free to show his full potential again.
I’m not surprised a bit he’s been dropped because Best and Ba link up far better and are both fit.
Barfa needs a few reserve games before he is even considered for the first team again.”
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 17:27
@B’Toon
You ask how I think he Barfa performed in the City and United games.
At United he did a couple of decent balls and a run throughout the whole game, otherthan that, quiet for large parts of the game.
At City, quiet for large parts of the game. Trying to do too much instead of releasing the ball.
That’s from memory of watching it live.”
It’s now timed at 70 mins since he flew off the handle.
Poor bloke.
Remember what Grandad Les said on his death bed.
“Anger is a killing thing: it kills the man who angers, for each rage leaves him less than he had been before – it takes something from him.”
Troy,
Never realised we were so similar in our thinking… I guess your opinion has changed too then??
Its seems your thinking at the time was in fact, very similar to mine?
@JJ
Is there a point to your Barfa post?
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 15:12
@blackbartoon
HBA needs to start to add something more for us?
It’s like playing with ten men so it’s actually subtracting something from us.
”
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 18:04
@b’Toon
He will be worse than Best and Oba at this moment in time. Easy.
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I’m so glad you felt the same sentiments as me Troy, can you imagine how foolish you would seem had to actually tried to use my sentiments about Ben Arfa back then in a debate against me…
Man that would be foolish!!
@JJ
Are you sure you want to pursue this point as if you do you will quickly find out that my opinion has been consistent throughout.
Shall we debate it?
@JJ
I see you replied as I was posting.
Let’s pursue it then.
Barfa was criticised by most when he came back from serious injury. I have never denied criticising him.
I always maintained it was like playing with 10 men at times. What you are failing to do is put in my other posts surrounding those comments stating he can’t be judged fully until this season now.
There is a huge difference from what you said.
I have never suggested selling him. You did.
On the contrary, I have always maintained he is super talented and as time progressed, particularly at the time when you were on about selling him, I was professing we should build the team around him.
Over to you JJ.
Troy,
I don’t see how we can debate it when it is clear our opinions about Ben Arfa have been very similar to each other.
We both felt he was being too selfish and needed to adapt his game to be worth a starting position.
The only difference being that I said I think if he didn’t come right by the end of the season we should sell him. And you said we should him him a spell in the reserves.
However, if he didn’t come right and continued to play as he was until the end of the season, would you not have sold him too?
Just find it odd how we had such similar sentiments yet you have continuously brought up my comments at the time to assist your debates?
Perhaps it was only because until this morning you never understood me sentiments and opinions correctly. In which case… we have no debate.
Quite simply, I agreed with you at the time. And you agreed with me…
@Troy
You stated that at that moment in time he was worse than Best and Obertan.
JJ said that if he didn’t improve he would selling him.
I don’t agree with him but his opinion was understandable.
You are clinging on to the selling as if JJ continually brought it up and was adamant we should. It was a couple of off the cuff comments. Certainly not over-drawn as your Cabaye is overrated rubbish, when even when played defensively he was top notch (maybe not as good as attacking but most tackles in the league speaks for itself)
@JJ
I’m not arguing for arguing sake. My point though is entirely different. I could see his potential. I never forsaw us selling him.
Im a huge advocate of skilful exciting footballers.
I knew he had pedigree once he came here and I researched him.
I’m sure you can see the difference.
@Trumpet
Nothing I stated about Cabaye then is different to what I think now.
I say you are still wrong
Regarding Barfa and this is to JJ, can you show me the thread where I said Best and Oba are better than Barfa at that time.
Over to you
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TROY STAVERS
December 18, 2011 at 14:34
@rodz
What I do know is that Barfa may be an outstanding player but since his injury he’s been 3 yds off the pace.
That is fully understandable and he needs 6 months injury free to show his full potential again.
I’m not surprised a bit he’s been dropped because Best and Ba link up far better and are both fit.
Barfa needs a few reserve games before he is even considered for the first team again.
That was the truth at that time and I stand by it.
Absolutely different from suggesting that we should sell him.
Over to you.
The point of all this Trumpet tho if you had followed this mornings debate and Aussies hissy fit which was bigger than your monumental one last week, was I was trying to balance the debate between JJ and Stardust.
Stardust was suggesting JJ could not identify a quality player. I was pointing out that JJ had suggested selling Barfa in the summer which assisted Stardusts theory.
Personally, I don’t believe either can spit a good player.
You’s two there or run from the debate?
JJ& Troy , I think many of us questioned Benny’s play back then ,I know I did.Quite simply he wasn’t a team player a lot of the time ,he was trying too hard to justify his adolation from a section of fans. Under Pards guidance he has improved dramaticly being a team player and mucurial talent in equal measure. He gives the team something others don’t ,the ability to change the game in an instant but we now have the extra dimension that he isn’t quite so selfish anymore which is reaping dividends. There isn’t the division on his abilty between fans as much as previously and that has arisen with the benefit of time and guidance from the coaching setup. The same could be said of Perch and Santon both of whom are getting better all the time . I would like to see Simmo given the same time to improve on his game as I don’t like to see players written off too soon .We forget how bad Colo was when he first arrived but look at him now.
Troy
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2011/12/18/missed-chances-cost-nufc-dearly-newcastle-0-0-swansea/
Comment 78…
I never stated our views were identical. But I think very similar, because at that time, we both felt he didn’t fit in…
I wanted to give him to the end of the season. I think you said “we’ll judge him over the next six months”.
Very similar opinions if you ask me:
http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/02/03/ben-arfa-mercurial-talent-or-just-a-highly-gifted-individual/
Reading your comment 9 after the article I wrote, you seemed to agree and understand with my sentiments exactly.as did your bro @ comment 62.
So on topic we didnt really play well at all but still got a very good result…sign of a good team that!
I am going to make a wild claim that we have the 3rd best strike force in the country other than mancs who else has better options in strikers?
However I am really hoping that pards spends a bit of money as we have spent next to nothing really in terms of net outgoings.
A CB and striker would be lovely and top four could be a reality
@Trumpet
Do you see what happens when only a sentence out of a long post is used.
Best and Oba were better than Barfa at the time.
That’s what I mean about twisters. They twist quotes and misrepresent you.
Again I state,
I fail to understand why you have continuously brought up and criticized my opinions at the time, when your own opinions were almost identical to mine?
You felt he needed to improve and be dropped at the time, but where willing to give him until the end of the season to judge him…
Up to that point our opinions are identical, the only difference was that I ended it by saying, should he not show improvement, we should sell him.
Whereas, if he hadn’t shown the improvement that he has, I don’t know what you would have had us do…
The reality is, he has improved since then, and is a great asset to the squad.
Troy
“Do you see what happens when only a sentence out of a long post is used.”
Are you not accussing people of doing exactly the same as what you did to me?
Phew, a long drive home from work is over and I have settled in with a beer… One post from Aussie = Ten posts in return
I have certainly hit a nerve there. I ask the neutral blogger; who has gotten under who’s skin?? 1 nil to Aussie.. Poor Troy, he didn’t stand a chance 
woo hoo hoo.. first he starts using my jokes, what next….
‘You can put a bullet in my head but you won’t kill a word I said – Mike Muir – Suicial Tendancies (band)
@Troy
Fairplay that JJ twisted that. But that is your staple. And I still believe his views on HBA are being exaggerated.
@JJ
I can’t keep explaining it over and over again.
Im sure it’s fair to say that Barfa came with a huge reputation. He had a blinding debut.
He got injured, came back and injured again.
He was simply not up to pace for months after his return.
I from the outset stated Barfa needed time to prove himself.
By the time you made your comments in January I still maintained he needed time and this season is his chance to prove himself.
He has always had the ability so why would you want to sell him before he’s had a chance to prove himself?
There’s a huge difference in what we are saying.
Solano,
Where did I twist what?
Troy stated that Ba and Best linked up better than Ben Arfa with either at the time and thus shouldn’t be dropped for him. Which is what Troy said.
Troy,
Where did I say the we shouldn’t give Ben Arfa a chance until the end of the season?
Did you not read my thread in February? Or are you going off one random comment taken out of context?
Read the thread… Then tell me how different my opinion was you yours?
I’m starting to think you are arguing just for the sake of arguing now…
Let’s see whether it will be;
A. Humour = total false cover up
B. More abuse and anger= confirmation of his seethingness.
Or
C. Ignore me = absolutely furious he can’t bring himself to type cos he’s bit his fingers off in such a tissy.
D. Or you will try and say you’ve been out and just came back from dropping the kids off.
Wooo ooo hooooo hoooo hoooo.
It’s a mixture of all 3
:-)
Cheeses Faussie!
Yikes! What a laugh I’ve had this morning.
How’s the ute?
Got the keyboard off your nose yet?
I’ll quote the last bit for you…
JJ Feb 2012:
“We constantly hear from Alan Pardew about Ben Arfa’s incredible self confidence, which as a top sportsman is a fantastic attribute to have. Another former Frenchman, Lauren Robert had it in abundance, and he turned out to be a fine player for us. Ben Arfa has the potential to be far superior!
However, he must realise, that in a team sport like football, no one player can consider himself above another.
You need those ten other players on the pitch, and you need to respect and trust each other.
I still have high hopes that Ben Arfa can become the player we all know he has the talent to be, but only time will tell if he has the mentality to fit in.
What are your thoughts? Does Ben Arfa just need some time, or he just too much of an individual luxury for us right now?”
Still think our opinions are very different?? Would you like to argue some more??
@JJ
So what you are saying is if he didn’t show the form that he did at the end of the season you would have sold him?
What I’m saying is, he always had this talent, I can’t believe you couldn’t see it.
That is what Stardust was getting at.
Can you not see why that is a reasonable point?
@JJ
I will simplify it;
You say that you would sell him if he did not show any improvement from January.
I say, he’s absolute class and he needs a full season to show his ability. That is why I would not sell him.
I knew he had it, you didn’t otherwise you wouldn’t have suggested selling him without having a full season under his belt.
Anyway I’ve got to go out and bash the car with a bush and keyboard on the end of my nose and chewing on a boomerang.
I don’t want Aussie to feel he’s all alone.
:-):-):-) 
10 smileys
Troy,
No, as I stated several times his ability and potential was never in doubt.
What I was getting at was that if we failed to find a system, and he failed to adjust to our system by the end of the season, that we should sell him.
I also said:
“I suppose it is not really fair to judge him now, because he has only recently started to get some decent game time, and he hasn’t had the best of strikers to provide ammunition for.
It is difficult to put in crosses and through balls for strikers that are always stationary (Shola).
Perhaps it is this lack of confidence in our available strikers which causes him to be a bit more selfish? If that’s the case I don’t blame him. It may be a different story when he is supplying the likes of Demba Ba and Papiss Demba Cisse.”
It turns out, that side of the arguement proved to be the correct on, because he has faired far better with more mobile strikers who have better anticipation. He came good towards the end of the season, and the rest is history.
Stardust on the other hand said:
Is it not true that less that 6 months ago you were slating Ben Arfa – saying he was USELESS and should be sold?
That my friend is a very different arguement, and a complete lie… If I was calling Ben Arfa useless, then by Stardusts definition, so were you…
Just admit we had very similar sentiments at the time and that your mate Stardust lied and then the debate is over…
Blimey, it’s raining handbags in here!
Here’s a new thought – as an attempt to get us talking about bloody anything else but who said what about whom, when. For those of us who:
1. Consider Ashley and his mob to be crooks who are not to be trusted (that would include me)
2. Want Ashley to sell the club (that would definitely NOT include me).
If you read the article below, you’ll get an idea of how much worse things could be. I work on the basis that there are no decent, honest football organisations; just varying degrees of crooks. If you’re going to be owned by one (all clubs are, imho), choose one that is at least bloody good at his job, and considers part of that job to keep his football club healthy.
The Glazers. There are not enough bedsheets in the whole of Manchester to do what we’d to to Ashley if he did what they’re doing. Just as well most of their supporters can’t make the trip from Surrey to demonstrate, eh?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/glazers-gain-75m-in-manchester-united-stock-market-float-8030537.html
The key bit: of the £150m raised, £75m will go not to the club but into the Glazers’ pockets. Can you IMAGINE what we’d do if Ashley tried that??
Better the devil you know. Big time.
If you can’t do that, then just do what you normally do…
Tell me I bit big time, that I must be seething, and throw in a metaphor with some smiley faces to declare yourself the victor in the debate…
Whumpie,
Who the hell do you think you are trying to bring some constructive football conversation onto this thread!!
I’ll get me coat…
Troy
http://bit.ly/SbZdIf
Jesus, even King Kev is coming out in support of the direction the club’s going in. We must be on to something!
Seriously – is there anyone who, right now, would be happy if Ashley sold up to some unknown foreign lot? Anyone?
So, is the game on Thursday going to be televised, can’t wait to see how the youngsters get on in Greece.
Whumpie,
Ideally, I’d like Ashley to sell say 10% of the club to an organised supporters group, so that we had some kind of representation. But if that supporters group came to agreements as well as the lot on this blog, I can see why it would never work…
The rest for now, apart from praying we buy a central defender, I wouldn’t change a thing.
Just hope there are no bad surprises before deadline day.
JJ – couldn’t have put it better meself. We may yet see that 10%; I suspect Ashley would like to see the resentment towards him bubble down a bit beforehand, though.
JJ
Seriously fella you need to take a look at yourself.
I provide an inside line with information known to players who know a player.
You go on a foul mouthed rant at me stating those ex-pro’s weren’t good enough to make it, that they were somehow bitter at their failure and Saylors success – yot you haven’t got a clue who they were, how good they were etc etc ad-infinitum.
You then go on a number of posts attacking my general personality – and use words that I should leave the blog. When all you should have done is ignore and disregard the post if you weren’t interested.
Thereon I (because you had attacked ex-players opinions (without foundation) I suggested that your view (as an example of Ben Arfa) shows on a simple level I would choose to believe an ex-pro who knew someone over you.
Then you try to accuse me of lying? Hilarious. I have seen Troy challenge you on this view for 6 months – so I have formed an opinion. JJ in a court of England and Wales – you can’t not challenge an opinion and label it as a lie. Simply because we all have opinions. Not once did I post a lie. Not once did I post a quote. I posted an opinion on a matter.
Now you say I am a liar. So far you have nothing to base that on as your thoughts are based on your opinion my opinion was unfair. So in fact YOU are the liar – as I have not told any lies, I have offered an opinion.
Now having been shown to lower the tone of the blog quite crudely – you have tried to shift the reason for your (I imagine) drink fuelled rants to a new argument. Ie the lies. You did not use profanity because of a lie (which wasn’t
)
Now you attempt to regain a moral high. But you can’t because as you can see – I am sitting on a furry cloud just next to god and you are sitting at the bottom of a slurry pit looking up and smelling bad.
So – in an English Court of law – your above argument is broken and I win the case.
In a battle field duel, I turned up for pistols at dawn with a loaded weapon (my brain in case your not following) and you turned up with a pea shooter
Now apologise and we can move on
JJ i will say again from another thread when stevo asked re-game,ch5 have given up there rights to show footy,(spent there money on big brother shite) itv4 now have rights and are showing the toon game thing is i cannot find if its the home or away leg as they are only showing one up to this moment in time
F*ck there have been some long posts the last few days. I guess that is what it takes to prove yourself right and in turn, to never to be wrong.. ever
Stardust,
Not even going to bother reading your thread… Its over fella…
You don’t have my respect, and I don’t care if I don’t have yours.
Lets move on…
‘August 19, 2012 at 22:56 – JJ Posted
“http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/02/03/ben-arfa-mercurial-talent-or-just-a-highly-gifted-individual/
Here is the article I wrote, that both Troy and Stardy have accused me of saying Ben Arfa is useless and should be sold.
I think you’ll find the contents is far different… And perhaps even, still relevant to a degree”
You see JJ – you’re being shown to be very dishonest. You posted this article and suggested this is where I formed my opinion on. CLEARLY I did not get it on that thread – I don’t even post on it.
My word fella – looks like there is only one person here who tells porkies and cried when the are in the wrong (using crass and vile words and behaviour)
Takes a man to apologise when they’ve made a chump of themselves.
Oh and I take back the comment comparing your intellect to a pea shooter – for fear of insulting all other pea shooters in the world.
Congratutions Stardust, you have formed your entire arguement based on a random quote taken out of context, despite, an entire thread written at the same period suggesting my opinion what not what you made out…
You are making an even bigger tit of yourself, if thats even possible…
Going to ignore you now so make up whatever more lies you like… I’ve moved on…
Oh dear JJ – not reading because you’ve made a bit of a “chump” of yourself?
Deal with the above fella – you’ve lowered the tone of the blog. Its a debating forum – you’ve been shown to be dishonorable.
If you can’t answer those two posts I will rest my case and let the jury decide their verdicts.
Ladies and Gentleman of the Jury – I ask you to come to verdicts
Count 1 – ‘Is JJ man enough to apologise?
Count 2 – Has JJ made a bit of a chump of himself by changing arguments and crying like a baby howler monkey separated from its mother – just like the wife beater who cries for sympathy when they are arrested.
Well JJ – are you man enough to own up?
Tailor – get the dresses at the ready – can you make a JJ sized on – with a pouch for a king sized pet lip and a hiifyfit sized handbag to match.
This getting like an episode of Days of Our Lives!
Ice,
I hope it gets televised here. Havn’t really got the opportunity to see the youngsters over here.
I see that prick Stardust is still frantically bashing away in a frazzle on his keyboard. What-a-prick…
Sorry, more like Rumpole of the Bailey
@JJ
I accept your response in relation to my point I raised.
But, don’t mix me in with yours and Stardusts dispute.
I never said you called Barfa useless. I even pointed that out earlier.
I was trying to even out the debate as I thought Stardust was making a valid point about what you said about Barfa and you were disputing it.
@aussie
What is for certain, a post, no matter how long it is, where you clearly show months of pent up anger explode like a cataclysmic event, demonstrates the poster has had a full blown hissy fit.
Wooo hoooo hoooo hoo:-).
. 
. 
Ignoring the histrionics going on …
I got all excited when I saw Live Europa League in the programme guide for Friday morning. Then found out it’s Hearts v Liverpool.
This love affair with Liverpool on Australian TV has got to end. Looks like I’ll be joining those tortured souls that ask for links every game. Never having done that sort of thing before, can anybody point me in a direction where I might start investigating.
And one for the techies – how easy is it to plug a laptop into a TV and will it compromise the picture quality if I can do it?
Troy,
I realise you thought Stardust had made a valid point. But clearly he took his statement out of context and I think that debate has been put to rest now that you understand the my true opinion on Benny back then were in fact similar to yours.
Anyway, I accept your apology.
…
Now the only debate remaining, is how long will Stardy bash away on his keyboard for before he realises I don’t give a crap about anything he has to say?
AMF/JJ ime fed up with the whole show to be honest and have been reading other blogs and keep comeing back hopeing its at a end,as ive said to dave everyone has a view which i maybe dont agree but respect,but ive found silence hurts more than a reply
JJ – good try to swerve but the fact I have not posted on that thread suggests I did not read it. So where did my opinion form from ? On threads and over time. My opinion was not a divine intervention – you have shaped it. You have been challenged on it for months.
So again – please demonstrate how I am a liar?
BUT for the record this debate did not start at this element, you have introduced it as a distraction. You ridiculed ex-players without foundation thereon you projected their opinions at me and called me a ‘prick’ for relaying information.
You lowered the tone of the blog in a unabashed foul mouthed tirade. Then you try to change to reason for the argument starting.
You’ve been found out JJ – you have no honour, class or integrity.
So JJ – you look extremely dishonest, machaevellian and scurillous -. You sir are a rapscallion!
Sir I throw my glove at you.
icedog@282 – ITV4 are showing the home leg. I don’t think there’s any UK coverage of the away leg. Kim thought it might be being shown just on ITV.com but I can’t find any info.
Ice,
I finished long ago, he’s still bashing away…
You know what Vegas, I just scanned thro foxtel and got excited by espn and then realised it was showing liverpool about 10 minutes ago.. no viewers choice ?? Pissed off…
Ice, I know what you are saying.. the truth is that you and I are the only ones that are never wrong
AMF@299 true mate very true
who could disagree with that 
Not me mate
nufc.com don’t have any tv channels showing next to the fixture
Dodgy foreign streams it is!
Would love the transfer window to snap shut right now.
We have a couple of dangerous gaps in the squad. But our rivals have glaring gaps in the first team.
Tottenham fans must be extremely worried. They’ve lost Adebayor/Saha/Kranjcar/Pienaar/King/Corluka/Nelson
So far they’ve brought in just Vertonghen and Sigurdsson.
Think Sigurdsson is a terrific player, but if he is going to be playing instead of RdV then it definitely wasn’t a crucial signing.
They need two strikers urgently.
Highlight of Saturdays game for me, was the fact that we have enough players capable of those magic, game changing moments that we can carve out wins out of nothing.
Can’t really remember a single decent chance we created.
So long as our defence remain solid we only need even one of our magicians to conjour something and we get a goal.
When they all click in a game we are a truly awesome team. Stoke at home last season was one of the stand out performances imo, oozed class that game.
So lads, have we signed anyone yet? That anita lad clearly isn’t up to it. They saw him for two days in training and already been dropped to the bench like
“JJ – good try to swerve but the fact I have not posted on that thread suggests I did not read it…
So where did my opinion form from ? On threads and over time. My opinion was not a divine intervention – you have shaped it. You have been challenged on it for months.”
Hahahahahahahahaha… you formed your “facts” through Troy’s misinterpretations of my article and one sentence taken out of context, yet repeatedly brought up by Troy, despite an entire thread dedicated to the topic stating that my opinions are very similar to what his own and many others were at the time.
So again – please demonstrate how I am a liar?
To lie (for Stardust):
“something intended or serving to convey a false impression, an inaccurate or false statement.”
Did you or did you not state I had said Ben Arfa was useless? If so, this is a lie…
“BUT for the record this debate did not start at this element, you have introduced it as a distraction. You ridiculed ex-players without foundation there on you projected their opinions at me and called me a ‘prick’ for relaying information…”
Stardust, I formed my opinion of you being a prick, not on your relaying tittle taddles on Saylor by bitter and “never has beens” like yourself, but rather by reading your comments on threads and over time. My opinion was not a divine intervention – you have shaped it. I think you are a prick – get over it…
I’m sure your mother love you…
Can we now please move on…
Dubtoon,
Only got to see Anita for a brief time, but I really enjoyed his movement and he seems to have a bit more mobility than our other midfielders. Certainly offers something different.
Tiote the rock, Cabaye the workhorse and set piece taker, and Anita the legs and space creator… Seems a great mix to me.
Solano,
Thats the thing, for so many games last season, people said we didn’t look fluent, and we didn’t… yet we kept churning out results.
The key to success in this league is to win, even when you arn’t playing your best. And we have the likes of Cabaye, Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, who can all change a game with one moment of magic…
Aye JJ looked like a tidy little player, and good to see him try and run past the defender when he was on the wing. Looked eager to impress and settled down well after a nervous first few touches. Hope we see them in a midfield 3 against chelsea next week
Solano re Spurs,
They spent a lot of money to get to the Champions league, and now they arn’t in it any longer. They have to cut back on their squad.
Still think we played them at a good time though. They are still a good team.
Who was it on the blog over the weekend that said they would sign Adebeyor for 5mil???
I also have to say, I was impressed with Simpson. He is key in defence. Just wish he can work on his attacking play and composure in possession.
He was much better against Spurs though.
I have to say it was a master stroke/push from Pardz by giving the lines man a tap on the shoulder
the press have focused on that rather than our lack of first team player transfers a a result. Bloody clever, Mike give the man a bonus 
JJ it was the spurs fan that was on milky bar yid. Wonder if thats true like. Can see city wanting rid of those wages and place in the squad but that really is a small fee
I see Demba Ba is being sent hoards of messages from Scum fans posing as Toon fans, saying they think he is poor and they want Carroll back…
Then they are sending messages to the FA to get Pardews bans extended.
Dirty bunch…
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/is-erik-pieters-on-his-way-to-nufc-tim-krul-explains-newcastle-united/
Dunno how reliable it is when they call him PSV’s right back… But still, why would he want to come “see how things are”… Seems like a January move is being lined up…
Sat was a tight game and typical of an opening day fixture, I wouldnt read too much into either way. There was positives to take away from the game , namly the 3 points! Am I the only one worrying that Ba and Cisse are finding it hard to play together in a 442? Or am I just over reacting?
Also , was Eric Pieters really at the match? Maybe we have made another bid for him
Sweating on the cricket, I got a fare wad on a South Africa win when we were 60/4 on the first day.
England putting up a decent fight… I said the two batsmen that would be hard to get out are Trott and Swann…
Good game.
Johno,
Ye Pieters was really at the match, photographed and everything. But he is still out injured…
I don’t personally like the 4-4-2 system with Ba and Cisse, but Ba did play a lot of the game against Spurs on the left, so was it 4-4-2??
Seemed
_____________Cisse_______________
_________Ba________Ben Arfa______
____Jonas____Cabaye___Tiote______
@Aussie
@301
I’m dying a thousand deaths for you today fella.
I knew I was getting to you over the months but I expected a smaller hissy fit than this mornings episode.
Are you feeling ok now tho? How’s the ute? Bashed to smithereens ?
:-)
Why don’t you convert it into a transformer, with all the separate bits you have left?
Woooooooo hoooo hooo hoooo!
It’s worrying as I liken your explosion this morning to the Horishima bomb on 6th August 1945.
Worryingly, it was 3 days later a larger atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki.
I can’t wait for Thursday to ignite the fuel.
harsh words from wor al on l/pool shame
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4495363/Alan-Shearers-harsh-words-for-Liverpool.html
JJ
But will Ba be happy with that? Didnt Pards say Ba wanted assurances he would play ‘ through the middle’? Bit of a weird one Pieters been there
@JJ
sorry, but I haven’t agreed with you by the way.
I don’t think I’ve misinterpreted what you said and meant its just it’s an issue which will not progress if you maintain your stance.
As far as I’m concerned from reading your post, you would be willing to sell Barfa if he hadn’t found his feet by the end of the season.
I knew he would find his feet so whether it was this or last season I wouldn’t sell him.
You are doing it again.
Question; How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
Answer; See posts 212 to 251
Can’t believe you bit on that Troy…
BTW Troy, I still accept your apology
I see #sackrodgers is trending on twitter in Liverpool. Hehehehe.
How good it is to not be the laughing stock anymore
@aussie
@322
Uh oh. Tin helmets on!
He’s crackin again!!!!!!!
JJ
All you’re doing fella is showing a number of character flaws. Did you not many years ago make a number of racist comments and you were chastised for it?
Can’t hide from your past fella :;):
All your doing is reminding people of the real you.
@JJ
Others who just tune will get the wrong end of the stick and I have to end up justifying myself because of misinterpretations.
There’s plenty who are just ready to jump in the deep end with their hands tied behind their backs. Or beat up their ute with a bush.
JJ @ 316 I don’t think you have anything to worry about there. It’s been a really good series. I’ve enjoyed it.
Again Troy/Stardust,
Well all is lost, play the race card… just shows how desperate you are fella.
Almost convinced you are one and the same now… When the one character is sunk the next one comes out in defence…
To answer your question, I was accussed of being racist by Chuck, but like you he had absolutely no evidence to back up his claims, because quite simply I never made racist comments.
To think you have sunk this low… I’m crying for you… Really, did I hurt you that badly? If so I apologise, I didn’t realise what a baby you were.
If its all very well, I prefer the Troy character, can we stick to him???
Troy, I think I might get a restraining order placed on you..You seem obsessed with me for some reason. Maybe it is because I constantly beat you at your own game? I make one well observed comment that makes you question yourself and you respond with attempts at humour. I understand that this is a defensive mechanism but you are taking it too far.. Settle down or I will have you charged
IME off sick of this point scoreing games sad sad people need a life imo
my da is bigger than your dad FFS
JJ
I only brought that up because I remember you being labelled and I gave you the benefit of the doubt – though I noted it as it stood out. You don’t forget those things – though I don’t recall how or where it started but it was a long running thing (a bit like your Ben Arfa view).
Yet having seen the way you acted on this thread it seems that you are far from genuine and do not take responsibility nor justify what you have said, you just spout bile. You certainly don’t appear a decent sort.
As I said – can’t hide from your past and the above will form part of others views on you once more.
@stardust
Shall I answer JJ or you? Or both together at the same time on the same post.
3 yrs down the line AND he still believes we are the same person.
Yikes!
Agree with Ice
Ice,
What has Fat Freddie Shepherd (FFS) got to do with it?
Sorry, mate, thought it had been dropped… Promise, no more replies from me…
I agree with Icedog @ 333
Stardust, I havn’t heard anyone have a bad opinion of me other than yourself mate… So if it makes you feel better, I apologise.
I don’t really care what your opinion or assessment of my charater is, but I don’t want it to continue being the subject matter of the thread… I think we are both being selfish…
So for that reason, can we move on?
@Ice
If you haven’t got the ability to create your own discussion around us then look at yourself.
Im with Ice too.
The blog the last few days has become a tit for tat petty argument about who said what.
Could you not just exchange email addresses or phone numbers and deal with it in private?
Bris@293
…yeah, our away leg is being shown on Greek TV apparently so there should be a stream.
As for plugging your laptop into your TV, it all depends what input/output ports you have on your laptop/TV. If you have HDMI on both it’s relatively easy I think, but I don’t have that.
I’ve got HDMI on the telly but not on my laptop so I use one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000GE9XRQ/ref=asc_df_B000GE9XRQ9300135?smid=A15TW43BF9Y9WW&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22218&creativeASIN=B000GE9XRQ
…problem there is I need another phono jack from my amp (my TV sound comes through that) going from laptop to amp in order to get the sound, which results in my front room looking like a snake’s wedding.
The best way to stream from laptop to TV is wirelessley with something like this, there’s loads on the market these days if you’re up-to-spec with TV and PC:
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/17249184/Q-Waves-Quicklink-TV-Wireless-PC-Laptop-Media-Streamer/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518|cat:17249184|prd:17249184
…BUT, it’s a minefield if you’re not a techie (and I’m not). It all depends on your TV and laptop specs. To be honest, if you mainly want it for watching football streams I wouldn’t bother. It’ll only just magnify the pixelated shit you see on your laptop screen onto your TV. I’ve resorted to just watching it on the laptop stream again.
Whumpie-Re that article, it is interesting really. Don’t get me wrong, Ashley is a twat, but like you say there are plenty worse and, at our current rate-its definitely “the devil you know” thing for me as well. Problems may arise if say, after paying back the debt, Ashley then started to reward himself handsomely, like say, FFS did
Also as for fans having a say….10% Yeah fair enough, might give us a bit of a voice, problem is there simply is no “us.” I think it would just cause more friction with us and the board. 10% Wouldn’t change anything as Ash could constantly overrule us anyway…
@Rossco
If the two culprits face the facts and apologised for being abusive and using slanderous comments then myself and Stardust would not be ridiculing them.
Aussie & JJ hang your heads in shame.
We can all call each other pricks and worse but myself and Stardust choose to debate. Once that line is crossed which is what JJ and Aussie have done then it’s swords out.
Differently tho, we use ridicule instead of vulgar taunts.
It’s amazing how the cowards go in the huff though when they get their own treatment.
Begas, Aussie, JJ and Ice for supporting them, hang your heads in shame.
No JJ
We can’t move on until you explain yourself. Again you try to hide from what you said, you think you can manage the situation. However I have shown you to be utterly inconsistent and machaevelian – so again – how does ex-players opinions deserve such language directed at me?
Many (Troy included) knows the 7 or 8 lads I play with. Were you spouting from a position of ignorance? Or stupidity?
Furthermore – why did you then try and divert the argument to another area without addressing / apologising for your appalling language and behaviour?
Why does your past haunt you?
You need to understand JJ your past and present is stacking up favourably – you don’t look like a decent chap – you appear a bit of a toad.
To clarify
Myself and JJ were having a good debate where there no bad language or taunts.
The first post by Aussie this morning was;
206
AUSSIE MAGPIE FAN
August 20, 2012 at 08:13
Tell em to f*ck off JJ… they are only rattling your cage mate
So all of you who supported Aussie then take another look at him and yourselves.
He went off bashing his ute up with a bush cos I ridiculed him for that.
Thanks Rodz. I think it might all just be too much of a hassle for me to be bothered with. I’ve looked at the tv manual and it looks easy enough, but so does Ikea furniture and I always have trouble with that.
I suspect I’ll just find a stream and watch it on my laptop in bed.
Thanks for the links, though. That picture in the first link looks something like what came with the teev.
JJ was nothing but abusive towards Stardust in the first instance and therefore deserved the ridicule he received.
He also could not take his own treatment.
JJ & AUSSIE try and man up for once in your lives.
Stardust,
Name the ex ressies?
Troy,
Now you are just becoming more of a WURM than usual.
No worries Bris.
I spent multiple hours looking for something that’d work on my old Powerbook Mac laptop, and eventually found this that would work on OSX 10.4, but at the time it was only available in the US.
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Imation-Link-Wireless-HD-A-V-Extender-Refurbished/6727983/product.html?cid=133635
…as you say though, I think the laptop is the best option for watching crappy football streams. I’d just stick to that.
That said, I’ve heard a lot of good reports on these, but they’re a bit pricey:
http://www.boxee.tv/
Have I stumbled onto the .com site by mistake?
Guys: JJ, Troy, Aussie and all the others trying to bitch-slap each-other across t’interweb: I say this with all love and respect, and in recognition of all the good stuff you also post, but…
STFU, will ya?? Do you want this blog to go the same way as .com?
Whumpie@353,
Ice @333- well said.
Whumpie, count me out of the bitch slapping mate… Troy and I do it in jest and I have no real malice toward him at all.. If we want to joke around then that’s our call. There is a difference between our banter and that which has been going on around it. So choose your stfu comments wisely as I may use them down the track when you are going on about something..
TROY there you go again putting words in peoples mouths,i never said i backed anyone,now i see why people get the hump with you,you cannot read peoples comments in the right manner,now please go and play with your grandas pants,thanks,and leave the footy talk to those who have a bit idea what they are talking about and dont wish to take points off each,and just for closeing the last i heard anyone going whooooooo was a 3yr old child grow up ffs
Whumpie, Ice, MDS. Kim
It has been a complete waste of time… I guess despite going back, and showing Troy, irrefutable proof of his past comments, and mine to back up a debate, he is so obsessed with taking over each and every thread that the content of the conversation matters nothing…
Its just pure attention seeking, and I’ve been stupid enough to give it to him for a good part of the day. Apologies mate…
stardy you should realy stop playing with lads you can get in trouble for it
and ya wife wont be happy when she finds out 
Troy @ 350 but even you know stardust deserves all the abuse he gets
Alright lads just a quick 1.
does anyone know when the 3rd kit comes out?
JJ cant beleive your still biting at the pair of numpteys
stardust is as sly as they come just ask workyticket 
Batty @ 362 – Pot calling Kettle black me thinks
JJ – no offence fella I have no intention of letting yo know the lads. Troy would have jumped all over me years ago and crushed me on here if I was making it up. As would a number of other friends on here who know me.
****JJ looks starry eyed and thinks of the word “friends’ – scrabbles for dictionary – starts to cry
We are waiting JJ? I will forgive – just apologise for swearing and being disgusting, being a toad and crying like a baby howler monkey that lost its mummy – no hissyfitting here, Im a man and magnanimous in victory – I will forgive you.
stardy behave ya c@nt i still remember what you did to poor young ryantoon
My word,
Stardy and Troy are best mates no?? It just makes perfect sense… What a sad sad circle.
Stardust,
Stardust I never said you don’t play with ressies and that your story is fake, I said that the ressies are bitter nobodies, so who care what they think??
You back up your sentiments with the feelings of some ex ressies who are clearly bitter that perhaps someone of Saylor’s youthful arrogance at the time got a pro contract ahead of them…
Saylor may not be as good as he thinks he is, but is far from the calamity you make him out to be.
He is picked as a starter by men like Carr and Pardew who I believe know far more about football that your ex ressie mates.
He shows incredible passion for NUFC on and off the field.
Sometimes it takes that something a little extra that clearly your ressie mates didn’t have and Saylor did – the talking about him is known as “jealousy”.
Mentioning that your ex ressie mates think Saylor is gash, is hardly irrefutable proof that your opinion is right because they have played with him and are “in the know”… its no proof at at…
You are simply spreading tittle tales from a jealous bunch who couldn’t cut it…
You pick up once piece of a thousand piece puzzle and then make as though you are “informed” then use it against Saylor… Just like you picked up on Chuck calling me a racist and used that against me as well as you incorrectly picking up that I had said Ben Arfa was useless…
Get the full story and then comment…
In future I will keep my thoughts about your character to myself and ignore your posts. It has caused too much disruption on the thread, and therefore in order for you to move on, I apologise for calling you a prick.
JJ @358. It took me some time but I’ve learned to just skip over the comments of certain posters. Or else, through no fault of your own, you get caught up in arguments you can’t win.
Is this match on Thursday going to be televised anywhere? I’m having real concerns about even finding a decent stream. Checked everywhere over here but not even the paysite I use is showing it
@Whumpie
Totally agree. I hate vulgarity.
To be fair Stardust, your initial point that your ex ressie mates think Saylor is rubbish is a bit pointless.
Why is their opinion valid in the slightest?
Fine they can give a personality insight but their opinions on Saylor as a player are completely and utterly irrelevant!
And I think your refusal to acknowledge Saylor’s vast improvement in performances at the start of last season is pretty awful.
MDS Its on a channel called Premiersports so Im sure there will be a stream some where!
Sheesh, England making a game of this at Lords…
@Ice
If you had been following the comments you would see I ridicule them only once they use vulgar language. You choose to encourage the vulgar to ignore the decent people.
If you want a blog where everyone tells everyone they are a prick or fuck off then crack on.
I understand you are elderly and therefore I thought you would have more common sense.
Maybe not.
Cheers Johno- fingers crossed
MDS home leg on itv4,think some greek ch showing away leg,best i can do at the mo ime afraid
Stardust // Feb 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
You are dead to me <<< stardy 0ver 3 years ago and you even called me a pile of steaming dogturd
must of missed that 1
@Batty
I love seeing Dust sheet get some stick but when he is abused by those who run off and cry when the piss is taken out of them then more fool them and those who defend the vulgar.
They are Rotters, scallywags and vagabonds.
@Batty
Stardy called you a pile of steaming dog turd.
Batts, there’s a huge difference in Dustys put downs as they are tongue in cheek whereas some on here are vile.
Absolute class!
The funniest one he used this morning was when he described JJ’s crying like a baby howler monkey separated from its mother .
JJ
‘I said that the ressies are bitter nobodies, so who care what they think??’
You dont know them, they are really great blokes – I know them you dont. Your comment is one of ignorance.
I accept you apology for the name calling and it ends there.
Now just admit you were wrong and deceitful in the above for (a) starting an unprovoked uninformed needless attack and then (b) trying to change tack to divert the discussion elsewhere as you were very much out of order on your original outburst…..and we can leave it here.
Man or Rapscallion ? I await news.
Batts – poor Ryan – mind Billy Bunter was a murderer – Ive never seen a lad pap his pants on a blog before but that was the day. He ws never the same since.
Of all comments online – his that day were some of the funniest – you could smell the fear.
Must have been scared he was going to be next in the lake
Remember – you were a main protagonist too! 
Pards has been charged over his push. I dont think I have ever been as shocked over anything else to have ever happened in the whole entire world
stardy @ 378 i only told you what to say ,and you sed it
@Johno
Has been punished or just charged?
I thought it was nowt. More of just a push to get the linesmans attention. Mind I was drunk when I saw it so I can’t be certain.
Ahh most beloved F.A. It makes sense really, I mean calling someone a black c*nt is all well and fine, but did you see how hard Pards pushed that lino? It’s almost as bad as a kid’s playground.
“Now just admit you were wrong and deceitful in the above for (a) starting an unprovoked uninformed needless attack and then (b) trying to change tack to divert the discussion elsewhere as you were very much out of order on your original outburst…..and we can leave it here.
Man or Rapscallion ? I await news.”
Stardust – fuck off! You really don’t deserve any apology.
icedog says:
August 20, 2012 at 16:36
MDS home leg on itv4,think some greek ch showing away leg,best i can do at the mo ime afraid
———————–
Well that’s encouraging. At least this round is being televised over here- too bad they are showing Lpool/Hearts plus a match with two clubs whose names I can’t pronounce (much less even heard of)
JJ – you only apologised for one part of your behaviour – there were many facets including a number of personal attacks.
If you apologise correctly I will let the matter lie.
Your call – you started and caused this issue.
Stardust,
I apologised for the only part I felt I was wrong. For the rest, if you think you are getting an apology, you are mad…
So carry on as long as its suits your sad little mind… I’m off to football now…
Hopefully, when I return, there is a new thread up that doesn’t get littered with the same crap.
JJ still biting
Batty,
Biting, fishing, casting rods, it all seems a bit pathetic to me…
Is that the some total of their input on this site, to try and rile up fellow bloggers by spreading negative vibes and making false accusations or pointless comments?
Seems like one hell of a waste of time to me… If its a game of some sort, I don’t get it…
Anyway, I’m off…
Troy, while I have to admire anyone who can get words like ‘vagabonds’ into a footie blog, this has to be aimed at you too… soz.
If you look up through all the posts on this thread, you’ll see that various people have attempted to move conversation back onto football. All have failed. That is because the vast majority of this thread has been irrelevant, indulgent bitch-slapping. Nobody can take the thread in any other direction because they can’t find the ‘real’ posts amongst all the handbags ones.
Please stop guys! We’ve got more footie going on right now than we’ve had for years, and nobody on here is able to talk about it!
Troy he has been charged with misconduct by the FA. He raised his hand and push an offical , regardless of how hard or anything like that he was always going to be punished for it. Hopefully he wont be banned for too long!
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Those that fancy a thorough fight on the keyboard, I have fingerless gloves with love and hate on the knuckles.
More stock coming in next week, so stay tuned boppers.
Whumpie-Thank christ we have European football and random midweek games. People say they don’t like the Europa league, but it’ll be a nice distraction to you know, talk about football for a change
Johno when is he to be sentenced
Johno just seen it > Pardew, 51, has until 4pm on 23 August 2012 to respond to the charge, and decide if he wishes to appeal against his punishment
I have a feeling they will make an example of Pards
Going back to where this whole argument started from ,as I recall Stardust said he knew some ex ressies who said Saylor was a bad sort . This prompted JJ to react badly as he was upset that a 1st team player was being slated with little or no proof that he was /is a bad sort. Whilst JJ may of been wrong to call Stardust a P***k depending on your viewpoint. Both have valid reasons to be put out . Firstly I can understand Stardust being offended at the insult but Stardust you cannot expect an apology when you then accuse someone of being a racist@327 and compare them to a wife beater crying for sympathy @287 ,it makes you come across as vindictive .That brings me back to your original post about Saylor .Why would you want to denegrate him as a person based purely on hearsay from a few ex ressies?. There are a lot of jealous folk around you know. My nephew could of played for Bristol City but fucked up big time as did a few others and to a one they are all bitter with the club /players to this day. It strikes me as funny that if Saylor is such a rotten egg how come we don’t hear about him falling out with other players left right and centre?. And befor you mention AC and him ,that was over a women I think ,totally different.I think it’s best you and JJ agree to disagree on this occasion tbh. Sorry for butting in but it’s never gonna get resolved as it’s going.
At least Pards has been honest and taken the hit with a degree of humility. Hopefully the FA will realise that and keep it mild. The charge should be more about trying to influence an official than anything physical – it didn’t even really consistute a push!
Could Toonsy just set up a separate thread entitled “JJ, Troy, Stardust and co all bitch here” so there rest of us can use the blog again?
Sick of this shite. Talk football, or take the argument to a site about nail polishing.
The amount of players that have pushed refs to the same degree as Pards and gone unpunished is pretty insane…Add to that the fact that Pards was right-the ball was clearly out, and the officials made a terrible decision and meh…I’d like an apology from the FA for hiring these tits.
Then maybe i’d take off my rosey red specs
@whumpie
Fair do’s.
Let’s hope JJ & Aussie reflect on their vulgarity.
@Johno
That’s fair enough I suppose. He should be punished if you go by the rule book but in context to vicious tackles and violent conduct, this incident deserves a one match ban at the most.
At best, words of advice to the linesman for getting it wrong.
Newkie @399 Agree.
Dave at 395 , yeah I think a fine and a couple of games in the stand will be the order of the day
WHUMPIE @398 aye too bloody right sick on it, troys been banned before but went weeping and whaleing to toonsy to be allowed back on and would stop twice in fact if i am right,hope its three strikes and oot
JT i think pardew gets on all right with the press always there to give them a quote overwise they would have had drawn and quartered him by now and calling for 3mth ban ect,imo
Carrick at Cb for utd tonight ,that should be interesting
Oh dear JJ – still showing your true colours.
Some times a man needs to look back in life and see the footprints of impressions he made in the world. Yours is a foul mouthed cacophony of insults and hate to those who don’t agree with you and moreso you are unapologetic to those who you offend (no matter what their cultural or personal beliefs)
When being confronted with your own comments you further lash out – but its your own words that haunt you. Can’t imagine your head is a fun filled place to be.
Carry on with repainting fictitious footprints – perfect and resplendent in white pristine snow. Whereas everyone else knows you simply stood in dog poo and are in denial. A bitter man – sad really – very much a waste of life – maybe lessons in being gracious could help.
Stardust @ 327 I presume your on a wind up But I can confirm that JJ did NOT make racist comments, Chuck might have tried to say he did but I was on the same thread and as someone that has allready been wrongly labeled as making racist comments , I don’t think it’s a very nice label but if you want to believe Chuck the choice is your.
JJ @ 340 that seemed like a genuine attempt to end the arguing and IMO that should be good enough,
Now lads I like a bit of banter as much as anyone but it really does look like JJ has tried to end it, but is still getting jumped on and being asked almost to beg for forgiveness
I am not taking anyone side but it is clear that lots of regulars have tried to voice concern over it and get the thread going again, so come on at the end of the day were here to talk about footie and the club we all love so at least we have that in common, so can we now move on
@Ice
I got banned cos of whiners like you crying on.
Don’t give it out if you can’t take it fella.
just saw this if its a help to anyone
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/newcastles-trip-to-greece-live-on-irish-tv-channel/?
DAVE@407 theres a few have said the same,your wasteing your breath m8
Kimtoon-Aye, it says something really. I mean, I’d be more comfortable with Willo, Perch and Tav at CB than him there, although I realise he has played there before…
Ice-cheers for the link dude! Can’t wait for another match, even if it’s a bunch of younguns. Next weekend already seems too far away
Troy @ 408 I really don’t think Ice is one of the one that tried to get you banned or had any input into it
troy i had nowt to do with you being banned you done it yourself but your too self-centred to know that,ive not dished out anything as you put it i wouldnt give you the time of day,and this will be my last comment to you expect to say if i was now asked if you should be banned for a third time i would say yes please and leave you to go crying again to toonsy brave man
Did anyone see Kruls comment trying to explain about his mate Pieters visit “Erik’s visiting me. He’s injured at the moment. He’s come to see how it all happens here.“
DAVE sumit will happen there in jan mate imo
Ice @ 414
chill mate you have to think about the BP 
Newkie@409 thx for the link , I will probably end up with some dodgy stream though . Still hopefull it might be on ITV.com as I know some are meant to be on there.
Ice @ 416 yeah could do
and maybe they will try to shift Simmo if he hasn’t signed a new contract 
Europa League:
Atromitos (a) live TV
From the Facebook site of Premier Sports which broadcasts via Sky TV channel 428:
Live coverage of Newcastle’s first European game in 5 years this Thursday at 6pm with their Europa League play-off first leg against Greek side Atromitos.
Confirmation of this came only on Monday afternoon and the Sky planner hadn’t been updated to reflect this coverage when we last looked.
@418 correction Thx ice for link
.All the arguments on here have fried my bonce 
losing track of who said what now. 
from nufc.com
didn’t know such a channel existed tbh, will need to check it out!
Just seen your post Ice !
Didn’t realise it was Setanta. Should mean there’s some streams then
@Ice
At Ice, to be fair, I don’t know you and you certainly have every right to form your opinion.
It really is water off a ducks bath.
Now you bring the issue up though, I must admit I don’t find your banter interesting in the least.
That’s probably why you dislike me. It’s normally bland people who do.
Good luck with your posts.
Kim
Now i’m glad you’re man enough to apologise, and in my gracious glory given that I am such a magnanimous being, I wholeheartedly accept your appology, without sounding like a complete twat…
Newkie@425
I can’t wait for the season to start – hopefully it’ll put an end to all these petty arguments!
Anyone know what time kick off is against Spurs and if it will be on TV? If not please post a link to a stream!!
Toon Toon!!
Ducks bath
Jesus Christ, still squabbling
I don’t know what the fuck the problem is. Is it because JJ called Stardust a “prick”. Oooh, I say. Such vulgarity causes my eyeballs to bleed.
SO FUCK!!
Kiss and make up fellas, eh
Clearly some don’t rate Steven Taylor and others (myself included) do. It’s that old subjective argument going around in circles again. Just agree to disagree and move on.
Stardust, JJ has apologised to you, yet you still come back at him with name-calling and put-downs. You’re clearly playing the WUM as far as I can see it.
As for Pardew getting a touchline ban, allegiances aside, so he should – you can’t do that shit.
TC ,It’s on ESPN again.
…incidentally, I’m quite happy for the blog-squabblers to carry on bickering. It doesn’t bother me, in fact I find it entertaining.
@ Troy and Ice well at least you’s now know how you’s feel about eachother, so at least thats something
and it will save you’s from wasting money on Xmas cards 
@Ice
I know you won’t respond but don’t misrepresent me please!!!!!!
Banned for the third time????????
I’m up to 9 already !!!!!!
Rod @ 429
well do you feel better now you got that outta your system 
As for Pards, I’m afraid Dave is right, i think they are going to make an example of him. To be fair, although it was rather minor, you still can’t have guys intentioally contacting officials….
I think the pieters stuff is interesting. He’d already be in black and white if he hadn’t gotten himslef injured IMO…
@Rodz
I always find it hard to understand how private debates, no matter how long they are, can really stop others working around.
There’s a comments box and all they need do is post.
Half the time, the people who complain are the ones that don’t post much.
@Big Dave
Im sure Ice is a canny bloke in the real world.
People take this blogging far to serious.
It’s almost that they think I’m in their living room.
It’s a strange carry on like.
Dave, I felt inclined to add something.
…as I said, it doesn’t bother me as much as it does some. I do find it quite amazing now though, that the season has started, we picked up 3 points against Spurs, and we’re still arguing over whether Steven Taylor and Danny Simpson are any good or not.
…ah well, each to their own.
HOWMAN UNCLE TOONSY!
….get another article up mate, it’s taking me aboot half an hooa te refresh this page.
I suggest:
“Are Steven Taylor and Danny Simpson Good Enough”
DAVE @ 417 funny that just had a full m.o.t. thursday everything 100% spot on,was sure they would find sumit seeing i payed for it they tend to find something to make you come back to pay more
,told to pack fags in like,whats new,if you get a in-growing toe nail they blame fags 
Big Dace
I am similar to you that I will defend myself if wronged. I can’t apologise for that. Re you being called racist and JJ – there are no comparisons – JJ made a load of comments himself where he could be and was criticised for it. You did nothing wrong at all – there was no confusion with your comments at all.
This thread is no different. His behaviour is unaltered. He never learns – he needs to understand he is accountable for what he says – and I will ensure he is held to account for his unacceptable behaviour.
I also agree with Troy – when certain individuals use vile language – to a number of bloggers its acceptable – the same bloggers thereon hate reasoned polite and firm retorts.
Suppose its a class thing.
So fella – if you don’t mind I will hold my position. He needs to show a bit of class – which he seems unfortunately not to have.
@Stardust
To be fair, I know I call you a pug nose gulper eel but we have one thing in common like you say, we have class.
Troy in their living room with your trunks and pit boots, now that would be strange.
but will he show he has what it takes 
Just going back but, as I said I thought JJ’s post @ 340 was a clear sign that he tried to apologize and to end it whilst keeping his dignity, so IMO it takes guts to apologise
though saying that im surprised he bit so much
So it’s up to Stardy to show the same dignity and agree to disagree and let it go
Rodz @ 437 I hate having to refresh when im on my phone it takes for ever scrolling
Troy, like I said I find it entertaining, and your posts, Stardust’s and B&B’s (even Chuck’s)
are always posts I read. As you say, they’re easy enough to skip past if you can’t be arsed reading them, and I don’t care if they’re about football or not.
I know I’m quite often a pain in the arse on here when I’m pissed, butting in to post random drivel in between sensible conversations. The fact remains, if people want to have conversations outside whatever ‘appears’ to be ruining the thread then there’s nowt stopping them.
I don’t have a problem with anyone, but there is a certain blog etiquette required when an author has gone to the trouble of writing an article. That doesn’t really apply to this thread though as it’s nearly 2 days old now and has had its relevant input.
This blog is pretty tame as far as insult-chucking goes anyway. I blame the fact that it’s Monday for people getting pissed off.
New article up ladies and gents
…oh, and just for the record, I don’t think the use of expletives has anything to do with “class”, Stardust. I can defend myself without swearing if necessary. I just like swearing.
…although I’m not gona parachute into the middle of this argument, and argue the pros and cons of effective arguing.
Bravo Toonsy
Ice @ 438 don’t talk to me about cars I had to go and tow my daughters car out of a ditch at 12 lastnight
fortunately she wasn’t hurt but the car’s in a right fuking state she’s only had it a week 
Gulper @ 439 you need to go to specsavers fella because apart from a few times from lastnight he apologized for his language etc he then tried to finish it again @ 340, you can’t expect him to beg for your forgiveness.
and to be fair im not in to foul or abusive language but a “prick” surely your not that hurt
Thanks Kim
I reckon Spurs will cause us a few problems with their pace but I’m gonna stick my neck on the line and say 2-1 Toon, maybe Ba to score the first goal!
@ Dave & Rodz
Once you start telling people to fuck off or they are a prick results in a swearing tirade.
If everyone did that then the blog would be a mess.
TC, I’d get some money on that if I were you.
Troy I agree mate.
)
I swear on here, but rarely use expletives to insult people.
(although don’t go digging there Troy please, as you’ll probably unearth one or two
I generally use expletives to add colour to my posts. If someone gets on my tits I’d rather challenge their argument than tell them where to go and call them a so-and-so.
Anyway………….
Troy you know I don’t agree with swearing and being abusive because I was normally told that the minute you do that you’ve lost the argument. But I do understand that sometimes it happens and aslong as it’s not a regular occurrence, I know a few times I have felt like letting rip and telling people what I really thought of them
But again as I said did JJ not apologise for calling the Gulper a p*ick
Just put £200 on it Rodz – the bookie could barely count my money for laughing tho.
Bet the cheeky twunt won’t be laughing come Monday morning when I’m there to collect my winnings!
Rodz you don’t swear do ye
catch you’s in a bit
Reet away to survey the damage the Daughter caused lastnight
TC, aye that’ll learn him.
That’s a reet bummer about the car Dave. but at least your daughter is unscathed. She got a bit of a rude awakening to the perils of driving. Better she gets the wake up call early on. Hopefully the scare hasn’t put her off driving.
Troy – at 449 – wholeheartedly agree.
Re JJ the same swearer on losing his argument changed tack and swore more as each element was shown to be a hoodwink. Thereon its OK to swear again?!
Jj made his bed
Big Dace
If it was a one off line for a one off comment I would accept his apology – however he is backed into his corner and he hates it – so he said “It has caused too much disruption on the thread, and therefore in order for you to move on, I apologise for calling you a prick”
That’s not an apology – an apology says – sorry fella I was out of line.
He has said it in the hope it gets him off the hook – he wants me to move on to stop his embarrassment.
Too clever to let him away with that fella – its his standard character – now playing a victim – hoooowwwwlllllllllll hooowwwlllLl
Some of the poshest people I know swear like dockers and some of the ex dockers Iknow never swear ,it’s nowt to do with class imo.
Stardust, you’re obviously a bright lad, and as far as I can see it so is JJ.
I respect the fact you never swear (I don’t know how the fuck you do it TBH), but to suggest the use of expletives reflects low intellect and class is quite a controversial statement.
Horses for courses. Some people enjoy swearing, others don’t. There’s a myriad of examples of profanity in literature. As I say, some swear, some don’t.
I apologise for piggy-backing onto an argument that has, ahem, naff all to do with me, but in JJ’s defence I think you just riled him with your anti-Saylor comment, as it’s a bit of a broken record.
I agree, his retort was somewhat harsh, and the way I see it he apologised so the line should really have been drawn now.
…I know you’ll milk the very last drop out of him though. You twat.
Gulper did you ever apologise to me for trying to intimidate me by telling me there is some bad men and that my address in Newtownabbey Co Antrim, wasn’t hard to find out
I still can’t sleep at nights with fear you big intimidating scundrel 
Ha Rodz — I agree with the sentiment of your post 1000 percent. I am not a saint far from it and love banter. I can take pee taking with the very best – I live by the motto ‘live by the sword’ and I quite enjoy dying by it (not the pork sword type though)
Swearing is fine in its place. Your stuff late night has comedy timing and is hilarious.
I am not naïve at all – I always think kids could read the blog and swearing is a part of life – so swearing for humour I get and find funny – even though I don’t use it – but aggressive personal stuff has no place on the blog – as Troy said if I went that direction the thread would be an ugly thing.
I love character, the ability to laugh at yourself, humiliate yourself, and have the humility to admit when you’ve acted improperly – that’s the great part of life – living.
On the contrary – I take a stand against bullies (always weak) and the dishonest. JJ imo fell into the latter category on this thread.
As Troy said (and he is the biggest pee takers I know and he would do anything to destroy me and I would accept it as I have got him a million times over the years.) Its water off a ducks bath
JJ is a typical example of someone who starts an argument and isn’t man enough to finish it – I don’t need an apology – couldn’t give a hoot – but it will rumble on until he is a man about it. No sleep lost – zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dace
I sent him around – but you ended up tattooing ‘Newcastle FC United’ on his left arm
I bet you can remember that too ?? I used to wonder how you found out but I soon realised
Oh and was it just a rumor that your were fond of a bit of sword fencing with wt
As for the FC united I did tell him how to get rid of the FC part, but I think he might be afraid of the pain
Lol – nah he says it makes it part of who he is so is happy with it as its part of who he is – got to respect that like.
Took my daughter to the baths the other day – this fella had an amazing lifelike tattoo of KK (but from the 80s) with long flowing locks. Just looked wrong – especially that he still had a mullet! Appreciated the skill but boy had the image dated.
I should have suggested covering it with a jellyfish
Or suggested he got a Saylor portrait beside it
Nah I think it’s normally a bad Idea to get someone tattooed to represent your team, unless maybe SBR or someone similar but im not really into that, IMO it’s cool to have your Kids but thats maybe it.
Kim @458
I think he meant that some people have class, or self discipline in the way they behave and conduct themselves. I don’t think he was referring to money, social standing etc. But I know what your saying, I know Muslim people at work that swear like a trooper, I bet they wouldn’t swear in their mother language in front of their parents or in a Mosque. So I don’t appreciate them swearing in front of me.
Cheers Tardis, nee wurries.
I understand why you bit. I’m fucked if I’d ignore such a scathing and dismissive remark myself.
But hey, we’re ALL ONE BIG FAMILY HERE
You’re all cunts though.
…tastes good on the bun
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….salreet in here like Toonsy….
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…..that lava lamp’s canny llike.
…gorenny crisps?
…it’s like a jungle sometimes it me wonder how I keep from going under…..
…uhh-huh-huh-huhh
arse
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