Ready for take off?
Who are the ones who should be most in with a shout and who could make a name for themselves with all of these extra games to play?
Mehdi Abeid is one of the players Pardew may call upon this season after putting in brilliant performances in pre-season and grabbing goals against Fenerbache and Gateshead. Getting goals from the centre of midfield has been something Yohan Cabaye and Cheik Tiote have struggled to do, so if Abeid can offer this as part as his game on top of the normal attributes of a centre midfielder, then maybe he can break into the first team as I definitely think he has enough talent.
Moving onto another young prospect that looks like he may get some minutes under his belt this season is striker Adam Campbell, Pardew is already aware of the talent that Campbell possesses, he has been scoring for fun in the reserves and in a recent interview Pardew hinted that Campbell may make his first team debut in Greece later on when we play our Europa league qualifier against Atromitos.
Pardew simply said: “I need them to play.”
He was talking about Campbell and new boy Gael Bigirimana who has been branded as a ‘mini’ Tiote by his team mates
Bigirimana is another young prospect who has also impressed in pre-season and will be looking to get some first team experience under his belt when the fixture list starts to get congested and players need a rest.
The other young players who look like breaking into the first team rotation this season are Sammy Ameobi, new signing Curtis Good, Haris Vuckic and Shane Ferguson.
In what looks to be a promising season for Newcastle, could youth be the key to a successful season?
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WHat? Me first? ON my first post after returning from the promised land of SJP?
I agree. I think if you look at the under 21s who played against Spurs the other day, and add into that all those who didn’t start on Saturday you have a decent squad for Europe and the cups. Maybe not enough to win but a healthy situation to be in.
As to players. Haris Vuckic looks like he is great at assists, but maybe not the deadliest finisher, leave that to Adam Campbell. Not sure Abeid is quite as close as he wasn’t on the bench last week, injured?
Tavernier looks most likely if we don’t bring any defensive cover as Curtis Good may be a season away. Can see him moving to the championship on loan if Douglas comes in.
Also don’t forget Michael Richardson.
Expect you had a wonderful time FSOTC
Ahhh, just had to get that in there…
Yes, I’m back, brothers and sisters! Good win over the spuds on Saturday. Ba’s goal was excellent, and it came just after I was carping to the fan next to me about him being back out left in the 2nd half, so that shows what I know.
I read somewhere that Ba’s been studying tape of last season to see how he could work that left side position better, and let’s hope that’s a sign of things to come. Great to see him score again.
What’s the story for today? Do we expect streams for the game?
Yeah, Prem, it was great, though I would have liked to hang around Newcastle more–I was in town on game day and off the next morning, but I really enjoyed it. Would love to get back for another game some time, but that will have to suffice for now.
My brother lives in Bath, so more likely than not, the next time I see NUFC play, it will be down in London if I can coordinate a flight from NYC, a game, and a visit to my bro. That’s a pretty good away journey!
Class last paragraph:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/9890243.Dabizas_watches_Newcastle_training_session_as_team_prepares_for_Europa_qualifier_in_Athens/?
Cabaye playing Football Manager on the plane to Greece – go on son!
RE thread: interesting to see Pardew explain Williamson will be Captain tonight (which means Guti wont play IMO)
tonight I wanna see Amalfitano, Bigi, Marv and Gosling, Anita obv so l would play:
Harps. Tav, Willo Perch, Taylor,
Gosling Anita Marveaux
Amalfitano Campbell Obertan
But as Saylor and Cisse travelled they may play, I think Bigi will have to settle for bench, big game for an 18 year old.
Is the team that traveled already posted somewhere? I heard Ba & Tiote are not on the plane.
Some decent highlights from the 6-4 reserve game the other day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOctW0gNrAY
Campbell looks decent, very quick, good finisher and a goal with his head! Not bad for 5’7.
I hate to be a killjoy, but mark Pardew’s words carefully. He needs the kids to pitch in. This is not a grand opportunity, but a necessity. Atromitos will be taking this match very seriously – if the Europa League money is a nice bonus for mighty Newcastle in the wealthy EPL, think what it means to a Greek club.
Also, young Campbell has been lumped with the “new Michael Owen” tag. Poor lad! It’d be better to be “the English Chicharito”.
BIGPAPA
I hope thats not the side, would be an insult to the Greek side and a very cavalier approach, although we are not playing a top side, they are no walkovers.
Williamson and Obertan, aghhhh !
Dont mind some of the the kids included, but those two dont belong in the PL.
We should be attempting to run up an away score, in order to make it easier in the second leg, not scraping by.
Just had a phone call from an old pal wishing me luck on behalf of Newcastle for the game tonight. He said he didn’t know anything about Atromitos, but knew a lot about the coach – whose name I’ve forgotten – Blajovic or something.
He reckons that his teams always play quick passing football, very attacking. He said that if Atromitos are anything like other teams he has coached then Newcastle will be in for a hard game and could be outplayed if they use too many inexperienced kids.
He was glowing in his assessment of the coach and the type of football he has had teams playing in the past. He said he thought Olympiakos of the late 90s were one of the best teams he has ever seen.
Thought I’d toss that one into the mix.
Howay the lads.
Fans Should Own The Club
August 23, 2012 at 12:52
Is the team that traveled already posted somewhere? I heard Ba & Tiote are not on the plane.
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It was posted on one of the treads yesterday. Ba, Shola, Vuckic, Tiote, Collo, and Ben Arfa didn’t make the trip due to knocks or in Ben Arfa’s case, he is still serving a 3 match Europe suspension from his time at Marseille
FSOTC it’s on setanta Ireland over here (cable) and premier sports (owned by setanta) in the uk I think so hopefully. Of course my cable is on the fritz and you have to get the whole setanta package to get setanta Ireland on sky
So I’ll be on the streams too
FSOTC, the squad that travelled is up on the official site here:
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120822/the-magpies-have-landed_2281670_2897069
Big Papa, ahh good ol’ Dabizas. Great servant to NUFC, although never really a world beater. Unfortunately the image etched into most Toon fans of him will be of him getting turned inside out by Dennis Bergkamp, kindly used by the BBC in the MotD title sequence for an unwelcome amount of time.
Romain Amalfitano, Vurnon Anita, Gael Bigirimana, Yohan Cabaye, Adam Campbell, Papiss Cisse, Dan Gosling, Jonas Gutierrez, Steve Harper, Tim Krul, Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel Obertan, James Perch, Davide Santon, Danny Simpson, James Tavernier, Ryan Taylor, Steven Taylor, Mike Williamson
That is who has travelled to Greece.
I just hope that we don’t throw this chance away by throwing on too many younguns, because it wouldn’t be the 1st time that a wee team has took a big scalp.
So I hope we take them serious and play a reasonably strong team.
Dave, I can imagine them parking the bus for 90mins.
I think Pardew will put out a team with enough pace and guile to take all 3 points though. There’ll be a good mix of youth and experience I reckon.
…I think Jonas will play the full 90mins. The man’s a machine!
Rod if Willo’s captain ? I don’t think Jonas will be playing a full game.
Reet back to do a bit.
Will be happy if we can keep the tie alive for the return leg
nee wurries Dave
…Spidey could play 5 games in a week man. 
right, thanks. Here’s hoping for a good stream.
Randomish prices question: What’s a cable & internet package cost per month in the UK?
…well the bookies have this tie down a lot tighter than I expected
Atromitos 9/4
Draw 11/5
NUFC 6/4
I’m asking because in the states, it’s very expensive, even compared to other countries, if i”m not mistaken. My whole internet-cable set up is nearly $130 per month–and I don’t even have premium channels like HBO and all that jazz. Thinking of canceling the tv thing and just chancing it with the streams.
Williamson captain tonight-http://footballformation.co.uk/news/premier-league/mike-williamsons-journey-from-portsmouth-reserves-to-newcastle-captain-in-2-years/
FSOTC, it varies mate.
I can’t get Virgin cable, so with Sky (satellite dish) I pay about £70 a month for telephone landline and rental (free calls after 6pm and weekends), Sky HD with all sports channels and 5 other ‘packages’, and unlimited broadband. You can probably get deals cheaper than that now mind.
Wellington – I agree mate, if Lovern and Best were still there would he be playing Campbell – I doubt it.
Pleased Campbell will get his chance but would prefer a bit more experience in the squad to be honest.
Pardew is going to need the whole squad to contribute this season, not just the youth. I’m on about players like Harper, Oba and Marv for example, players who didnt really contribute last season.
Fancy a 2-0 to the toon tonight. HWTL.
@27. That’s acually not bad. Here I pay about $200US but that pretty much gives me every channel known to man including the sports and movie packages, plus home internet and landline….
Figure in my land line and cell phone and I’m up in the $220 range. Ri-god-damn-diculous.
The only things I watch on the TV are soccer, the odd Daily Show/Colbert Report and the occasional Futurama/30 Rock episode. I should shit-can the cable.
Sharpy, I think Campbell may be part of the reason we let Best and Lovenkrands leave.
…of course we still have Nile Ranger
Anyway, going on Bris’s comments and the fact that Atri… Ater… Atro… whatever were in the last two Greek Cup finals and finished fourth in their league, I would be surprised with a walkover for us today. We’re playing our 2nd team and their sure to go great guns on us.
I live in a Greek neighborhood here in NYC, so I wonder if I could catch the game in a neighborhood cafe. Hmm…
Oh, yeah, Nile Ranger!
As I walked out of the stadium and wandered the streets on Saturday with the other happy fans, I walked right past Nile Ranger himself! He was out and about with a crew of three other pals.
I’ll tell you what, I’m 6 feet tall, but that is one big, strong looking kid and I felt like a pee-wee walking by him.
I’d love to see him come around and become a bit of a battering ram forward for us. What’s the story, though? He seems to be way out of the good graces of the team.
@30. I hear ya…I’m about to downgrade a bit as never watch 2/3s of the chanels.
By the way- glad you had a great trip- I’m very jealous. You should think about doing an article or posting your thoughts on the experience….
FSOTC can you not get a dreambox there as they have here even my son in malta has one think he pays about 130euros a yr and gets everything ive a friend here has one pays £15 a month gets all the sports packages and internet nee free calls like
MDS aye good idea fsotc should do a thread on his trip,i promise not to rip into it
Never even heard of it, Ice. I should look in to it… but hoping to cut DOWN on the tube viewing! Maybe the phone calls make it worthwhile.
Well I don’t know what your all moaning about as my package with Virgin is £90 a month
That gives me top speed broadband ,all movie channels ,all Sky sports ,All ESPN stuff ,landline phone with free calls after 6pm and weekends.(ex large package) I don’t get sky atlantic though which pisses me off no end. 
I’m afraid it would be a pretty dull affair, boys–I was only in town for the day of the game and my boss (my wife) only let me off my leash long enough to catch the game and then we split town in the morning.
Ice- so long as he doesn’t rip into the Northeast that is
On topic ,we will win tonight ,will be seriously miffed if we don’t mind . Campbell to score too.
@38. well that’s still better than here in the states. I could go the dish route and it would be a bit cheaper but I would lose my local sports channels so it’s not worth it for me
Kim, when I convert mine into pounds, it comes up to about 140 pounds per month, so…
Ice, I had a ‘dreambox’ about 8 years ago mate
It went kaput after about 2 years. Good deal though. I think I’m limited these days with only being able to get Sky.
…speaking of Sky, I just rang up Premier Sports to get the Toon game. £9.99 for two months, but you need to ring them 31 days before the end of the two months to cancel or it turns into a rolling contract.
Funny, the bloke on the phone said, sarcastically “I never realised there were so many Newcastle fans living in Halifax, with it being a rugby town”,
it appears loads of people are quoting the NEWCASTLE offer to get a free connection fee. They show a lot of rugby apparently.
FSOTC@32, I’d say a Greek bar would be a good shout.
anyone think this tackle is wee bit high,just had his eye on the wrong ball
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/yikes-south-african-player-tackles-opponent-tackle-153358110.html
@43 ,Jesus ,Fans ,That’s daylight robbery mate and there was me thinking the states was so much cheaper than the u.k
Yeah, Rodz, except I wouldn’t like a brick upside my head if we win. Or a spanakopita, for that matter.
Yeah, Kim, it’s outlandish.
One of my favorite words, that. “OUTLANDISH!”
Preposterous, too. I love that word.
Rod – I think Pard would have been aware of Campbells development, but I’m not sure he would have let both go without thinking we would be getting a CF in this window. I think he would have kept at least one knowing that Xisco and Ranger won’t be involved, Shola won’t play many 90min games this season and for all he has potential Campbell is still very young and inexperience. I’m not running Campbell down just don’t want to big him up too much or have too much pressure on him because our squad is too thin.
Off for a bit… Later, taters.
kimtoon says:
August 23, 2012 at 15:01
@43 ,Jesus ,Fans ,That’s daylight robbery mate and there was me thinking the states was so much cheaper than the u.k
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It is for most things but not cable/dish packages. there’s actually a lot of Anti-trust/monopoly litigation going on within that industry at the moment so hopefully in a few years it’ll be different.
Sharpy ,wouldn’t it be brilliant if he stepped up and was a revelation in the first team setting the PL alight .We’d have all the other clubs giving it ,Whoa where the feck did he spring from.
Anyone know is Vuckic injured again?
MDS @51 , Can’t get over that price ,really shocked ,even more shocked Americans are standing for it ,they are normally quite vocal on stuff like that.
SHARPY what no twisting about nee signings today pity, i was going to join in with you
if games going our way i do think cambell will get a run out for 20min,but he will start with cissie imo 
Sharpy, I get your point, but Pardew has said the young players need to start playing now. There’s still plenty of time. I think we’re still after a CF.
Troy said on the other thread a late bid of £15m could be enough to secure Carroll. That may still happen. We all know Fatty likes to play games, and always takes his time with transfers.
A centre back is more important to me than a CF at this moment in time though.
@47 you could always just wear a false beard and sit in the corner with a newspaper with eye holes cut out of it.
…lot of South American football on Premier Sports channel actually.
Kim – it would be great but my concern would be that he’d be another Rooney and actually we would only ever get him in his infancy because a bigger club would take him from us.
It would be tremendous if he was the 1st of many to start coming through though and it would be good to see him and Tav getting run outs tonight.
On SSN this morning they highlighted the back of the daily mirror and they lickened adam campbell as a new michael owen.
Seen him play a few time through highlights and his pace is key to his game. Even though he scored a header in the first U21 game. Believe me when I say he is something special.
Our new ginger gem!!!
Rodzilla says:
August 23, 2012 at 15:16
…lot of South American football on Premier Sports channel actually
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Rodz, those SA matches are the best, particularly the Argie league. Talk about a wild scene…
Kim @54. People generally aren;t standing for it and are switching to satellite, but the my problem is that the satelite pakages don’t include my local stations where the american sports teams I support are televised. That’s what getting fought out in court….
MDS @60,Ah right ,see what you mean,lets hope it all gets resolved o.k .
Sharpy @56 ,Well we can be sure of one thing .If anyone came in for him if he comes good ,fatty would demand a shedload of money for him.
Any links yet for tonights game anyone?
Kinel, there must be a lot of money going on Atromitos…
Odds were:
Atromitos 9/4 (3.25)
Draw 11/5 (3.20)
NUFC 6/4 (2.5)
…an hour ago.
They’re now:
Atromitos 17/10 (2.7)
Draw 21/10 (3.10)
NUFC 17/10 (2.7)
SSN ,Fulham make formal complaint regarding comments made by Liverpool officials in their pursuit of Clint Dempsey.
Oh dear Buck ,foot in mouth strikes again.
…hahaha, they’ve just changed again. We’re now favourites again. We’re now 2.62.
Reet, I’ll shut up about gambling now.
Things just keep getting better for liverpool
If I was the liverpool owners I would stop Buck doing anymore press confrences he looks more of a tit at every one he does ,if it ain’t u turns on Carroll it’s talking about other clubs /players. The guy looks a liabilty and I think the job might be a bit big for him tbh .
“SSN ,Fulham make formal complaint regarding comments made by Liverpool officials in their pursuit of Clint Dempsey.”
Brenda redefining irony again…
Kim, he’s most certainly out of his depth IMO.
If they arent prepared to accept our offer and we arent prepared to up the offer then thats surely the end of it, We should move on and bring in the centre half we need and dame Brenda should concentrate on inevitably getting sacked by crimbo…
…actually, I’m sure I can remember Rodgers saying the job was too early for him in the early stages when Liverpool were sniffing ’round him. They must have just flashed too many dollars under his beak.
i think itl be a tough game tonite! not a pushover
Rod what price are we now
is this on the tv? first game and ne ones showing it..??
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@Rodz
Do you not find £12m to be a bit low. Surely Jabba would know Liverpool would not accept that.
If he doesn’t increase the bid then I suggest it was a token effort by Jabba to try and fool the fans into believing we were trying to get a striker to stop any flak.
My hope is that whatever bid he put in first it would be rejected by liverpoool anyway so best off to start low and build up to your limit.
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/136783/1/watch-atromitos-athens-vs-newcastle-united.html
not sure if it will work.
Atromitos watering the pitch when we have no big man up front
Troy he can know its low without it being a ploy for the fans. Not saying its not like, but maybe they only want him at a bargain and dont think he’s worth any more. Sounds like a few others transfers recently
DUB that might keep them cool its hot there
http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/index.html
Ice theyre trying to make it all steam up like a sauna
Willo as Captain might still mean Jonas is playing. Could just be a show of faith in Willo, and see if his game improves with said faith? Although it does seem unlikely that Jonas will start…
(4-2-3-1): Harper; Tavernier, Perch, Williamson (c), R Taylor; Bigirimana, Anita; Obertan, Gosling, Marveaux; Cisse
I should be pardew got team selection right!
Harps,
Tav, Willo, Perch, Raylor,
Obertan, Bigi, Gosling, Anita, Marv
Cisse
With the CM’s we signed I can’t see Perchinho getting as much of a look in CM this season. Based on the last two games I feel Pardew is trying to ease us into the idea of Perch as 3rd/4th choice CB.
I’m all for not spending over the odds for people like Debuchy as we don’t need to get mugged off. But CB is a necessity whichever way you look at it.
Come on Douglas.
Substitutes: Krul, Santon, S Taylor, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Amalfitano, Campbell
Dub do you remember KK watering the pitch at SJP despite a few days heavy rain. When asked why he did it he responded “I don’t know but, Bill Shankly always watered the pitch and if it was good enough for him …”
Very excited to see how Marv gets on tonight.
Prem
aye im sure its just superstition or something, nothing tactical 
Replace Cisse with Mandy and that’s not a bad cup team.
ST aye ime looking to see him get a run of games mate,imo a top player
Bats, nah they ain’t changed since my last post mate
…they were going up and down like a yoyo for about an hour though 
Mark, it’s on Premier TV. A tenner if you have Sky.
Troy@75, I agree 12m is a bit low for an England international striker, especially given they paid 35 for him. As I said earlier though Fatty loves his mind games. Like you say, it could be a Wayne Rooney special to keep the fans happy (even though that was Fat Freddy in 2004).
….or, your theory of slapping in a low bid then coming in late with a take it or leave it offer of 15m also makes sense, although we’ll have to wait and see if that one gets re-ignited. I don’t think it’s dead in the water yet anyway.
TEAM NEWS JUST IN FROM SSN:
9 changes,
Harper
Tavernier
Willo (cpt)
Perch
Raylor
Obertan
Bigi
Anita
Gosling
Marveaux
Cisse
4231 formation apparently
…looks alreet
…looks like Uncle Toonsy beat me to it………..>>
In a way I hope Campbell doesn’t score. If he does they’ll be press reports about him being the new Rooney and calls for him in the u21 England team, it’ll be too much pressure and it could affect him more than it did Carroll.
…and Dubtoon, and Liam. Ah well, at least I got 1st on the new thread.
Solano-Aye it seems so. Perch is alright at CB don’t get me wrong, but he just lacks the physicality/size for it really. They don’t all have to be monsters like hangeland, but Perch is only an average CB and offers nothing in terms of danger…wish we had Ivanovic like
Newkie
Ivanovic is a dirty bugger but he is a brick wall and Chelsea are much better with him in the team.
Yeah, he’s a prick, but he’s a CB who can play RB and seems to score all the fecking time…well, when he’s not hitting people in the face and whatever
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