Don’t panic, yet
However it seems to have been a catalyst for some to extinguish any hopes that they may have had for this season based purely on this one result.
Now I’m not suggesting for one moment that everything is fine and well and I know we didn’t exactly cover ourselves in glory at Stamford Bridge, but the result was far from embarrassing and, on another day, we’ have found the back of the net with at least one of our three guilt edged chances that fell to Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba on the night. Another game on another night maybe?
Personally I think a bit of perspective is needed. The mood is down at the moment seemingly, but we’ve mustered three points from our first two league games, and tough league games at that. We beat Tottenham who would have been in the Champions League this season had the other team we have faced thus far not actually won the competition last season.
Surely that isn’t too bad is it?
Chins up. There is plenty of time to go in this season so don’t chuck in all your expectations just yet, especially not based on a loss against the European Champions.
I also understand that a lot of people are less than impressed with our business in this window to date, and with only just over 72 hours of the transfer window remaining some are understandably nervous regarding both incoming AND potentially outgoing transfers having an effect on our season.
Yes I’ll be annoyed (but only with the board for failing to back their manager) if we fail to bring anyone else in and yes I agree that it is leaving us vulnerable to injuries and suspension with our hectic list of fixtures. However, we still have a good team with some cracking players, don’t forget it.
Many of you won;t agree with this of course, but at the end of the day we’ve played two tough games to start the season with. They were never going to be easy, regardless of whether we’d signed five, ten, fifteen players, and I’m happy with the three points we have so far.
The rest can wait until/if/when it happens…
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Good article. Not sure why the mood is down except for the typical end of window panic that shows up on here. A draw in Greece was acceptable and a loss at Chelsea was expected. But Spurs was a big win in a toss-up match against a likely rival for end of season position. All in all a positive start for me. Wins Thursday and Sunday going into the int’l break and we’ll be flying
Sounds like I picked a good couple of days to be offline.
For me, all we saw on Saturday was how bloody good Chelski are this season. We looked like a team that’d played two days earlier.
Would I have taken 3 points from those opening two games if offered? Of course I would!
As for transfers, people don’t seem to learn. Precious little happens between the first and last weeks of the windows, especially with our (incredibly successful) recruitment approach. As always, we have to trust that if nobody else comes in it’s because there was no deal going that was worth it and Pards and co decided they’d be better off waiting.
Sorry – I know it’s boring – but it’s true, right?
WHUMPIE ime happy with what we have,but your statement about playing two days before doesnt hold water imo it was 9 diff players that played on the sat
Good article, I agree, no need to panic as we’ve got 3 points from two teams that we know will be at the top end of the table come May, that many thought we’d only get 1(or even 0) points from. With regards to the villa match, is it on SKY on Sunday?
Ice
I wrote these on the last article, don’t know if you saw them.
I agree with Ice as I was just about to say the same thing. I can’t believe that Ashley/Llambias would allow Cabaye to go for 15m as reported, it would have to be £22m+ for them to even consider it. Same with toto to all the clubs he’s been linked to.
Quite a few comments on it seemed very sceptical of the goal. Benny managed to do what he did when Bolton had 11 men on the field, in a league where defending is renound for tough, precise tackling compared to the Brazilian league where they allow players lots of space for running past them.
Newcastle fans are so fickle we are either going to win everything after one decent result or we are going to get relegated if we lose one game. We have played 2 of the teams that all of the experts are saying will be in the top 4. Chelsea have spent massively and look like they could win the league. Let’s see what this week brings if we have the same this time next week I for one will be satisfied. Lets get realistic we ain’t going to win the league if we are top 6 I’ll be delighted if we are top 8 I’ll be happy. We do
Happy with the results so far and will be delighted if we progress in the Europa League and beat Villa – great start to the season.
I think if we can get a striker in and possibly a CB we will be fine and certainly pushing top 6. Have a feeling the Carroll deal may still happen and maybe Douglas with no-one leaving but then I’m an optimist. Hope Edwards is right
Luke Edwards [!]8207;@LukeEdwardsTele
Reliably informed there have been no approaches made for Tiote.Cabaye or Coloccini. As for incomings, it’s all rather cagey from #nufc.
Luke Edwards [!]8207;@LukeEdwardsTele
Instincts tell me #nufc will sign 1 player before window shuts. However, my instincts also said Kara Betany fancied me at school. She didn’t
As ever, the mood going into Friday will be dictated by Thursday’s result, and the mood going into Sunday will additionally be influenced by a thorough and objective analysis of the transfer window.
Sitting here today, we can’t say much beyond the fact that we beat Spurs, who will probably finish above us come May and lost to Chelsea who almost certainly will as well (ahead of Spurs).
Ever since the introduction of transfer windows, we have been whipped into a frenzy, sometimes full of hope, sometimes full of fear. This summer it’s been in equal measures. The impending arrival of the final piece in the jigsaw to shore up midfield and defence has been speculated upon and even the return of the former talismanic number 9 has kept the positive interest going; but of course there is the counterbalance and in the coming days, I am arguably more concerned about possible departures as am excited about arrivals.
In my view we need a full-back and a back-up striker, and if they arrived without departure, our squad would be better. Of course, the worry is that Coloccini, Cabaye and Tiote could all go (unlikely they will ALL go), which would necessitate replacements. Arguably, the club has prepared for Tiote leaving with Bigi & Anitia, but now it seems that the vultures are circling for Cabaye and we would definitely need to be replaced as there is no plan B for him.
Midnight on Friday will bring the answers, but until then, all we can do is sit and wait, oh and ignore the media because the heartening reality is that they are right less than 1% of the time!
If Tiote or Coloccini leave, we’re screwed. But for some reason, the idea of Cabaye leaving doesn’t bother me as much as it should. Maybe it’s all those poor, poor corners he took on Saturday. Although I think CB is our biggest need, followed by ST, it just seems like it would make long-term sense to bring in Debuchy. Cabaye would be happy, and we’d be one step closer to building the kind of team that players would have a hard time leaving behind.
ANDY @5 aye did see it mate but didnt comment as this new thread popped up,seems we agree on the fee carry on,more so when you look at how much henderson cost 20mil plus i know it was l/pool but jabba wont have missed that
Guy
We’ve got Amafilitano and Gosling as backups for Cabaye but I agree we would need an official replacement should he go as those two aren’t anywhere near his class.
True Ice
Charlie
I know we need a CB and definitely need a Striker as we’re very thin up front but the idea of getting Debuchy excited me the most for some reason. I think it would take signing messi upfront and piqué/Subotic at CB to get me excited about those incomings.
on previous threads discussing our “what is deemed a succesful season” most people on here expected a top 8 finish. I dont see why that should change just because we lost to the much improved european champions.
I think we have a better squad this year, even without any extras this week (possibly a reserve striker short, but hey lets give Campbell a go)
Anita for Guthrie
Bigirimana for Smith
Campbell for Best
Amalfitano for Lovernkranz
Marevaux is fit this year
Taylor hopefully stays fit
Gosling should be fitter this season
I know we were a couple short last year, centre half, backup striker, and if these arrive all the better, but we were not a top 5 squad last season, and the aim must be to improve the squad year on year, if we have a one year blip, we should treat it like a one year peak, accept it and keep moving on with a long term policy.
or has the “Pardew’s lost a game, get him out brigade” started early this year.
of course it may all go wrong if £££ signs hit the boardroom later this week and we lose 1 or 2 of our “assets”.
As ever, you can only judge the impact when he is replaced – Carroll’s sale was a short term gamble that paid off due to Best’s goalscoring spree, but longer term it financed the acquisition of Cabaye, Tiote, Ba and Cisse. If Cabaye’s sale led to that kind of impact, or even half of it, then we would be delighted.
I would love to think that we can fend off offers until January and add a couple of players, but tick tock goes the transfer clock!
@Kev
Good analysis of how our squad can be seen to be at least as good as last year.
The problem is that I imagine that Chelsea’s squad is A LOT better than last year and even the hilarity of Liverpool will probably improve.
So staying as good, probably isn’t enough even if the extent of our expectations are top 6 rather than top 4 (which is probably unrealistic)
Andy@12-
I know what you mean about Debuchy. Also, I think there’s something else at play there – players buy into hype as much as fans do. Debuchy is the type of signing that might make other players say “Look at what Newcastle is doing – I want to be a part of that.”
Fair enough Chelski played well 1st half but the penalty was a dive even though it was a penalty and the Torres goal was more ass than class but Cisse Ba and Ben Arfa could have make them very twitchy by finishing one of our chances.
Some you win some you lose but our team looks like we are in with a shout again this year for sure.
Guy
We signed toto before Caroll left. But yeah I agree with what your saying, short term a sale can look terrible and club threatening but really if you look at the long term you will see(provided we get a decent sum for the player that leaves) that the money can be used for new players and advancing the club forward.
yep, as above, I dont think we had a top 5 squad last season, but we over achieved. Chelsea under achieved, so did liverpool, I expect them to be better this year. Everton look strong, but may suffer like us with not many replacements if the first team get an injury, Swansea, dont know, lets see what happens. Spurs and Arsenal will be about the same. So added to the 2 manc sides, there are eight teams (nine including us) who will be in the eupopean mix… I dont think finishing in the top 8 is a disgrace or a failure from where we have come in recent years.
Charlie
Your probably right about that. It shows the sort of initiative that encourages the general punter, the media/pundits and more importantly other players to take notice of us.
Silly to compare Newcastle United’s buying with the top six IMO, not just because of resources (which is important) but because of the state of the squads.
Chelsea have bought big but that’s because they’re in the process of rebuilding the Mourinho team – Manchester United should have bought big for the same reason but haven’t (apart from one Freddy Shepherd-style pop-star signing to appease the fans). Arsenal have bought because they’ve lost top talent to bigger clubs – Spurs should be buying for the same reason but haven’t. Liverpool are changing manager every year and starting from scratch each time (as are Sunderland and QPR, the other big spenders.)
None of this applies to Newcastle United. OK there are weaknesses in the first team, at full back especially, and areas without enough cover but overall this is a well balanced and (unlike the other teams that are going through a rebuilding period) YOUNG squad – Colo is 31 (which would still make him practically an apprentice at Chelsea or Man Utd), Shola is in semi-retirement at 30, Guti is 29, Ba and Cisse are 27, everyone else is 26 or younger. That’s a hell of a position to be in and totally different from where Chelsea are. And everyone who’s left since relegation has either gone to worse clubs or retired and already been replaced by better – that’s a totally different position to where Arsenal are as well.
Its been a solid start, The spurs result was excellent, We have the advantage going into thursday with the away goal, The chelsea one was understandable and a good one to get out of the way.
Also like the changes in style with us playing from the back and the signing of anita with the emphasis on controlling midfield.
Like i said the other day everyones raving about swansea but if they had started with spurs and chelsea they would more than likely be rock bottom and odds on to go down…
The thing is, I don’t think many of us are asking to have Chelsea-type money spent. I’m normally optimistic and try to be patient with transfers, but the thing that I find annoying is that it doesn’t seem like it would take much to fill holes and improve the squad. By holding on to our current players and spending £5-6m each on a CB, FB and ST, we could be really good and well-covered in each position.
anyone else think we are playing 4-4-2 to keep Ba happy until the window closes. We really need to go back to 4-3-3 with the success we had with it at the end of last season. At Chelsea it showed Ben Arfa and Jonas are not wingers, and you need wingers for a 4-4-2 to work. If we do go back to 4-3-2-1 (or 4-3-3) if you want to call it that, we dont need an extra striker, as Ba or Cisse will be on the bench. It should be Benny and Marevaux playing either side (or just behind) the 1 striker. Thats my conspiracy theory of why we havn’t bought a back-up striker. we have obertan, Amalfitano and Sammy to cover the 2 runners, leaving ba cisse and shola to fight for the 1 up top place.
Also, on topic, the Chelsea game means next to nothing, aside from the missed points. It wasn’t one of our better performances, Chelsea is one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the league, and we still had some chances. On a different day, we easily could have had a draw or a win. I’ve seen stats that show our possession, passing percentages and final third passing totals were all better than in our 2-0 win against them last year. It was disappointing, but that’s it.
GDS@6 ,Think that’s a bit of a sweeping statement to say we are fickle and think we’ll win everything or get relegated depending on results. I havn’t seen anyone say we’ll be relegated after the Chelsea result. What was anoying was had our finishing been better we could of got something from it. I never expected a win due to them strengthening and the Hazard thing which I knew would be a test for us and was as without Tiote we couldn’t stop him. I’m happy with results so far ,worried by Cisse who looks out of sorts but that could be Ramadan .No my main gripe is the lack of a CB and ST coming in ,I really cannot see it happening at all and it hacks me off no end ,what’s more I don’t feel i’m being inpatient in saying it.
Kev@24, That thought about Ba had actually crossed my mind as well.
I’m happy with what we did against Spurs, disappointed with the Greek game, disappointed with the first half of Chelsea but pleased with the second half – so I suppose I’m neither pleased or disappointed so far
I think part of the problem is that the football does get overshadowed a little bit with the transfer window still being open at the moment.
One think that has gripped my shit this week is this ‘playing 3 games in a week isn’t fair’ bollocks!!. 3 games in and Pardew started the excuses after the Chelsea game already.
I think any fan negativity at the mo comes from the lack of signings and speculation of players leaving – particularly as the board are happy to let the world know that our players are for sale.
Also interesting that Pardew has came out encouraging fans to buy tickets for the Villa game?!… wonder if he’s worried the lack of transfer action will see fans stay away.
we have never been strong in defence in my time people say we could be ok if we didont get a cb in as we have willo and perch. perch is not a cb willo is ok playing against poorer sides i think we need a lb more than a rb as we have right footed players that can cover rb but no left footed player for lb a powerfull cb thats good in the air and good at bringing the ball out a right winger that can cross a ball and score his fair share of goals we havent got a midfielder who will get 10 or more goals a season
Would someone be able to answer my villa question(@4)?
ANDY havent got a clue if game is on sky or not,i can go and see it on my mates dreambox if i cannot get to game mesel
talk of inter milan bid for carroll
Ice ,I don’t see him going to Milan at all.
Seems like Douglas is a no-go.
fuck it..
Lets see what the next 72 hours will show.
I was dissapointed by the lack of form we showed against Chelski thats all.
Give me 2 good signings and a solid win on thursday.
Fat bastard! Wake up
FSOTC everyone is a no-go in this window imo mate
Pardew said we didnt need to sell in order for us to buy right?
Kim – I dont see him coming to the toon either!
If I was being totally honest, I really struggle to see anyone coming in now it’s SO quiet from our end. There MUST be money in the pot otherwise I would have thought they would have just came out after signing Anita and said ‘right that’s our lot!’
KIM l/pool would snatch their hands off if true get him out the EPL to save face
Yeah, maybe, Ice. They’re playing very carefully with the purse strings and sticking to the refusal to over pay for players.
DT aye thats right he said he wants 3/4 players in but if he lost one of his big players he would want him replaced
Ice @38, I agree but what if AC don’t want to go there.
He has all the power at the moment I would of thought.
Peronally the damned transfer window and the eternal distraction of maybe losing a couple of our best players is causing me more grief than the results so far this season.
Although at the same time we haven’t pulled up any trees with our performances so far…but it’s still early doors…
MM you must be sober at the mo
how many lives in newcastle in this forum?
Would like to know where to drink my pints if i should be so lucky to travel up there within this year
Icedog…change the record big man…
DanishToon you might find the majority of bloggers on here don’t live in the toon. And some like Icedog aren’t allowed to drink anyway…
DT that MM is 90% german now so tak nee notice of them square heeds
wtf..
I need to have someone to lead me to the pints..
Without alcohol i go blind.. Or is it the other way?
Icedog the 10% Geordie left over is the important bit mukka …
Reality is an illusion caused by alcohol deficiency.
dont mention the war!
Danish; I live in Wallsend, between Newcastle and the coast , but I can see SJP (S D Arena) from my house.
sidekick..
So you are the one to contact if i am a lucky lad and land in newcastle within this year?
In fairness I don’t think it’s the performance against chelsea that’s got on peoples nerves. Like you said, toonsy, it wasn’t that bad a performance to be honest. It’s the squad that is worrying everyone i’m sure.
The number of defenders we have in the first team squad means that probably at least two will need to play every single game we play – especially the centre backs, or at least if we want to challenge on all fronts.
The reality is that we need a right back, centre back and a striker. Had we got them we would have probably the best squad we’d seen for many a year. But alas.
Only at NUFC I guess could we reduce the squad size in a season were we have more games to play.
Danish; Troy knows all the best pubs in toon and he will take you on a pub crawl with his brother. However, if they start a football debate it might be more of a pub brawl.
Crown Posada.
Union Rooms is a wetherspoons but it’s class.
If I were Ashley I would put 1 Mill on Lille to qualify for the CL group stages tomorrow. That way if they win he has the extra 2 mill to meet their asking price. If they lose they will be forced to sell him at a drop down price lower than our original offer.
Win-win
I am pretty happy with the 3pts from 2 games, and to be honest I don’t really know anyone thats not, But what I will say is that the Chelski game showed that we are still pretty weak, Cisse was awol and the biggest crying shame was that there was no one to bring on in his place and that for me simply isn’t good enough for a team that is currently in Europe and has aspirations to stay in Europe,
Now for the ones that will say that we have a good 1st 11 I agree 100% but there is noway in this world all our 1st 11 will be fit the whole way through the season. we have got shot of a high earner in Smith and experienced players in Best, Lovens, Guthrie, and we have brought in Anita who must be to replace Guthrie and a few younguns with potential, but as of yet we haven’t replaced Best or Lovens even with 1 striker, add to that that even Jabba said before the last window that we need a CB and here we are with a couple of days to go and we still haven’t brought one in.
For the ones that think that thats ok and we haven’t sold any of our big players that fine and dandy because thats your right, but I am fuking fuming that up to now we haven’t grabbed the chance we have to push on with both hands, and although I don’t expect any players to come in I will still give them untill the window closes, But I think its a total disgrace that we have been weakened even more when you consider that we have a bigger work load on this season
Looks like Drogba and Anelka could be available! Ha!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/28/didier-drogba-nicolas-anelka-shenhua
Anyone else watching Udinesi v Braga on itv4? Quite a good game, end to end stuff. By the way it turns out that our match v villa will be the one match on sunday that isn’t on tv
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Danish – sorry for the delay. Depends what your looking for mate, there are loads of ‘wine bar’ pubs in the Town now like if you’re a bit Geordie Shore. But if you’re wanting a decent pint and bit crack the Crown Pasarda is canny on the Quayside – which is my favourite part of Newcastle to drink in coz of the views of the bridges and river and that.
FSOTC
Would have suggested we put in a sneaky bid to play them as backup but not at the wages that that article says.
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/real-madrid-enter-the-race-for-top-newcastle-target-mathieu-debuchy-lille/
Ice
They can fuck right off. They’ve got more full-backs than midfielders why would they need him?
Solano@58
Not a bad idea that.
Andy@61, That don’t surprise me as they only show us against tough oposition so they can rip the p*** out of us when we get slaughtered ,or am I just a bit paronoid.
Ice ,just read that Debuchy link. If they get him then that’s Douglas and Debuchy written off in one day
@Sharpy they’re a bit more Sinners than wine bars!
Thing is, if there is any truth to Cabaye going then that may put off Debuchy coming here anyway. Not only is his mate gone but it would show a lack of ambition by Toon letting a top player go.
I agree with with Big Dave @ 59
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It can only be a fugging total disgrace if we close the transfer window with an overall weaker squad than last season with more games to play.
More so considering the club have most probably sold even more season tkts than last season.
I really dont understand why we are pissing about right now. Its simple we need a good left footed fullback, who can tackle. A tall CB who can defend set pieces into our box and a goddam striker to replace our perma crock shola. ( If we can just roll him out twice a season against the mackem scum, that will do
Its too much to expect young Cambell to stand in for the 2 Demba’s during ACoN, nor the gangsta nor matchstick legs.
If we dont sign players for these 3 positions, I will be seriously pee’d off.
But of course we will then get all the crap about keeping our powder dry for january etc blah blah bullcrap.
KIM sorry to say i told you so
Ice ,I’m more fed up with each passing hour of this wretched window. I’m kinda sure we are done for in’s now just worried about outs now.
I thought this carr chap was supposed to have scouted various players for all the positions we need covered. so wtf is going on.
Simples, we are hoping to sell someone for mega bucks before we buy.
Which explains Pardews constant moaning in the papers about losing players. He is basically keeping them in the shop window.
There has been no change in the boards utter contempt for the fans who spunk up there hard earned every month.
Well if we dont sell big and soon, then forget new players coming in.
imo anyway.
We could have had players we wanted, much earlier in this window, if we had really wanted them, but Fat Bastad just has to play his little games of pretending to be interested in a player and under bidding.
It may be clever business acumen, but doesn’t impress me much.
IMO if you want a certain player, then just cough up the money. All this penny pinching is utter garbage.
ST – not keen on the likes of Revolution and the bars around there like – bit too poser bar for me like … not that I haven’t got it you understand, just don’t like flaunting it
Ice – I just wonder how true that is and who started this rumour – could it be Lille stirring up a bidding war?!. The fact is we really should have had Debuchy signed up and playing long before now.
My other concern is that by not getting the likes of Debuchy – if Arsenal come in for Cabaye he may look at it and think, yeah they have lost RVP and other big players, but at least they are showing some ambition with the likes of Podolski, Giroud and others they are signing up … what are we doing?!
Like Kim says – to potentially loose targets of Douglas and Debuchy in the same day, when really we should have had them signed up already is just massively bloody annoying man
KIM ime not really one for saying i told you so,its just i never really did expect us to make any first team spendings ive said before jabba is in this game to make money as long as things are ticking over hes happy,yes we had a chance to move forward with just a little cash spent but we will have to accept this is the way the club is run now bring in a few young players and bring them on then they can move on the likes of tiote,cabaye,cissie for big money and on it rolls
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I don’t see the problem in waiting until deadline day is closed. Then we can blame the regime if they fail. .
Until then, no criticism from moi.
SIGNINGS
Exactly, pissing about over the odd million quid, or whatever.
I dont recall chelsea haggling over hazards £35M, or manure with RVP.
The principle is the same at our price range too.
Just buy the players we need NOW ffs.
I sense a nasty boil festering away under your skin tho Troy, just waiting to be lanced.
Stand back, she’s gonna blow.
Shefki Kuqi anyone ?
Hope we get a couple pf players in soon, i think Erik Pieters is the one we want covers CB and LB,
But do we want Mandy Carroll?
On the original thread topic, I’m well happy with the 3 points so far, despite not playing so good. But most of all I want us to beating thr teams we expect to finish below us in the league. Starting with Aston Vile.
We just MUST take all 3 points from these clubs, especially so the home games. This will be a real mark of how far we have or haven’t progressed, since getting relegated.
Personally I hope AV get relegated, as I loath and despise them. Not just for their over celebration of our demise, but also for the tramps that defaced the Sir Bobby Robson memorial garden, the last time they visited us.
Total and utter disgrace
Alex – No chance. This is just Fatty having a laugh at cesspool.
I dont even think we would stump up £12M if that offer was accepted, unless we were selling Cabaye/Tiote for even bigger bucks etc.
Certainly cant see us bidding even more than that, but then again the Fat one often leaves me lost for words. So really nothing should surprise me anymore. lol
Beardsleys boots
agree mate i cant understand why he would pay that for carroll but wont up the offer for Debuchy.
I dont want carroll back anyway would much rather get Gameiro, remy etc or give Campbell a chance.
i actually consider to move over for a half of a year if i can find some work in Newcastle.
Alot of friends tells me that i may have a chance being a translator or something like that.
seems like it is more important that the club turns a profit this financial year, even if that means not doing so well in the league.
Bottom line is to make the club an appealing proposition to any potential purchaser. Maybe even start to repay some of the debt to Fatty.
I wonder if Roman Abramovitch wants any of his £1Bn back from chelsea.
meh. same old shit, just a different season.
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@Bootsy
I can understand the concerns being expressed but have the regime not deserved some credit since they first took over. They have produced the goods (in general – still waitng for CB) over the past two seasons.
Of course I will slate them if they don’t buy or sell players. I judge it on their performance in the market and as yet the window is not closed.
I can understand the club holding out over the odd few million providing they ultimately get the player(s) they want.
I’m still confident we will get Carroll but then again, just as likely to lose a player.
Aye, there’s a desperate need for Danish translators in Gateshead right now. Seems like we are over run with them and none of them speak Geordie either.
You do speak Geordie dont you DT ?
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My concerns are tho, we generally get our players in early and the final days of the window are normally a let down.
So the odds are that we won’t get anyone of note. But, here’s hoping.
BB
i have the shearer dvd and i understand shyte sometimes, but i am a fast learner.
Seriously.. I actually consider it!
From jan to july i have nothing to do here, and i really want to come to newcastle and follow my team.
But i need so much info first.. Apartment, job, etc
Yeah Troy, the regime has had a bit of luck by selling AC, and to be fair they have brought in some reasonable replacements. But I still dont trust them to do the right thing for the club and the fans.
Yes they have got until Friday night, but I maintain we wont buy what we need, unless we strike it rich by selling off our premium assets first.
I kinda hope no one comes in for any of our players, and then we will see the regime’s true colours.
Ice – I dont think I will ever accept that like, especially when the scum are spending. I do believe that our future should be bringing young talent through like Tav and Campbell – rather than spending big money on a single player as we have in the past.
But you can’t cover every position with youth coming through the ranks and we need to spend when necessary – if they don’t, and the club is ran the way you’re saying – I can see fans giving up season tickets.
P.S – I know you’re not suggestion thats the way you think it should be done, more likely that’s the way it WILL be done … or is it
Well good luck to you Danish.
Sometimes you just have to go for it and take a chance.
I said the same to my sister when she was making up all kinds of excuses not to go to Canada, even tho she wanted to go.
I haven’t seen her or her family for 14 yrs now and she loves it over there.
Its funny how things work out.
BB
thanks buddy..
I will try to get some info and i have just googled danish jobs in newcastle and alot came up.
I think i will have a go at it.
Thing is the scum needed a striker, and now they have two.
When you need a certain player as priority, it’s vital to get him in once he has been identified as what is required. I think our board is trying to be too clever sometimes. It will come back to bite them on the ass sooner or later. But its the Team that will suffer.
BB
Canada is a nice place.. Much like Denmark.
And as long as she is happy right..
If we end up paying out 8 Mill for DeBuchey, then what was the point of all the fannying on
He could have been here and settled into the team by now.
Grrrr
Exactly Danish. In the end she followed her dream and went for it.
Things never turned out how she planned, and she has had several jobs before she settled at what she does now.
Its surprising how, when one door closes, another one opens.
I think its alot easier moving within europe too.
Good read mate.
Personally the last two results haven’t affected my expectations either way, wholeheartedly agree that it was two tough games and we got what we expected.
My logic, flawed maybe, sees that we have the same size and quality of squad that we had last season. We were out the cups early so I just see that with the amount of games with decent cup runs and european footy and the same sort of squad we will finish between 5th-8th. That would be with a strong home form season and a bit of luck with any injuries to key players.
The road is yet long…please sign someone for crying out loud!
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@Bootsy
I can’t believe you aren’t getting more stick for doubting the regime.
There’s so many on here don’t allow you state anything negative about the regime without being criticised.
I understand your frustration but if we just paid up front what the clubs want then they are always going to demand more.
The regime drive a hard bargain and are trying to get the message across that they won’t be dragged into an auction.
There is method in their madness I suppose.
bloody hell Troy is talking sense…. well I never……
No, mate, he’s covering his arse. It’s a facade to hide behind, so he can show us all how patient and level-headed he was when he comes out with trolling comments later in the season.
It’s all part of that ridiculous warning before his posts.
True Vegas
, it will allow him to take the high moral ground when he starts ranting. It will go a little like this… 
I Troy Stavers was prepared to give the regime credit during the transfer window because until the window had officially closed we could still get the players in we needed, you can check my posts, I was awesomely calm about it
…………… However now that we haven’t reinforced enough, I will bitch like there is no tomorrow 
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@Begas & Aussie
Now, now boys. You know why I’ve got the disclaimer. Because of your previous hissy fits.
I’m always speaking sense, you know that.
Are you sure you want to continue with this as you know you are liable to cataclysmic huffs.
I’ve explained why I am giving the regime time. They have deserved it based on their transfer activity of late.
If they do fail to buy and let us down then , yes, deservedly they will get hammered.
Troy
I see your hanging onto the hissy fit line 
Is that all you got? You disapoint me sometimes, I thought you would have had a bit more amo in your locker… Oh well, hissy fits it is until you can come up with some new material 
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@Aussie
You hissy fitted on an epic scale. Do you want me to forget it ?
Hissy fit.
hissy fit 
hissy fit 
hissy fit 
If you apologise for having a hissy fit and promise you won’t do it again, I will take down the disclaimer and give you a second chance.
seriously, how old are you Troy? legit question…
Oz: Somebody once drew an analogy about the blog being like a pub with many conversations going on. I like that analogy.
I see Troy as an annoying drunk guy in the corner who talks too loudly and tries to act tough with everybody who comes near him.
Vegas, Troy is the drunk guy in the pub that ends up being the only one laughing at his own jokes…
That’s because he’s the only one listening.
What do you think of this Debuchy to Real story? Genuine or an attempt by Lille to scare us into upping our bid?
Anyone remember when Keggy came back, It was announced on the night of the stoke cup match where the tickets werent selling great. They announced that and put another 15k on the gate.
Something similar before tomorrow night ??
What a terrible pub this is. People just walk out half way through a conversation.
I’m going to go for a drink somewhere else.
BB@82 ,Got to agree with that , they are one team I would love to see drop into oblivion for the reasons you stated.
Brisvegas@112, The problem with the Debuchy deal is If we sell Cabaye then he may think our ambition isn’t up to much ,what with him being one of our top players . Also it’s his mate and probably down to his biggin up the club that he wants to come here.
.
I have actually been in many a pub with Troy, and it is very much like how you describe.
According to the Journal headlines, “Newcastle United only have strikers on their radar”
Debuchy is too old for the price demanded.
B&b@117 ,Fed up with paper talk ,other than Anita there’s not one player come in they have linked us with really . Think we are done with in’s now and quite possibly gonna lose one .
Aussie ,Is it alright to have my glass half empty yet?
I wake up every morning and load straight onto the SSN app on me IPhone, hoping to see us in for someone – every morning nowt.
B&B – I think the papers are much like the fans, pretty clueless as to what we are doing transfer wise at the minute (actually, add the board to that list as well). I wish the window was closed now to be honest, simply because I don’t see us getting anyone in and if Arsenal offer £15m for Cabaye, Man City offer £15m for Colo and Chelsea offer £20m for Tiote – we are screwed!!!!
Kim
hang in there, it is still half full 
we got santon thru the door late last season,so there is still hope 
Vegas, Debuchy to Real smells of bullshit to me…
I see a Geordie lad got bitten by a shark off the Western Australian coast while surfing, yesterday. Terrible stuff…Why is a Pom surfing is the question that should be asked.
Sharpy – I find the local papers are usually not too far off the mark. The local journo’s have their club contacts, and the Board use the local journo’s to manage fans’ expectations.
The Journal is saying that other clubs are looking for better value elsewhere rather than paying £20M for any of our stars. That seems credible. Although our stars seem settled, a lack of ambition in the transfer market might upset them. It seems the Board want to play brinkmanship with LFC for Carroll, but won’t be too perturbed if it doesn’t come off. No doubt they’ll try again in January if he is still a Rodgers’ misfit by then.
I do think the club is right to identify a stiker as their priority, whereas previously it was defender. You cannot afford to take any risks at the business end.
The slightly embarrassing thing about this transfer window is that everyne has been wanking over our transfer policy and all i’ve heard from the club since January is how we’ve been preparing for this window since the last one closed. Jeez, i wouldn’t mind knowing who was doing the prep.
“Jeez, i wouldn’t mind knowing who was doing the prep.”
Aye, they talk a good game.
My gut feeling is that we will sign a striker this window and then sign Peters due to his versatility in January once he has proved his fitness. Defensively we will make do with what we got until then.
Joey Barton to leave Joey Barton > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWELFZ-XdM
Worth a cheeky bid?
Stuart, I have to agree.
If I were Carr I’d begin to start wondering exactly what’s the point of gallivanting all over Europe to identify players when the board refuses to pay their market value.
I guess he just likes traveling, but all this continuous preparation and then we sign one player. It seems to me Carr only identifies cheap replacements if our players are sold at a high price.
If we sell nobody, the board refuse to buy anybody apart from very cheap young prospects… None of which have broken through so far.
TC, joey loves himself too much to leave himself
It is not easy getting players from other teams when they are not actually for sale.. Take heart in he fact that we aren’t just buying other teams shitty offcasts..
I’ll try that again without posting a link to TRON
Joey Barton to leave Joey Barton > http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/joey-barton-to-leave-joey-barton-2012082939313
Worth a cheeky bid?
tick tock tick tock oh shit clock has stopped
I honestly don’t get all the people whining about how our squad is weaker than last years?? Not just on here – the Chron site is full of ‘em.
Since the start of last season we’ve lost Guthrie, Best, Lovenkrands and Smith, whilst we’ve gained Cisse, Anita, Amalfitano, Bigirimana and Good.
Ok so Good probably won’t feature, but then neither would Smith and Lovenkrands would have only been on the fringes of the bench.
PLUS – everyone else, including some very promising youngsters, are one year older and wiser, and I would imagine the understanding amongst players has improved too.
Yes we need more bodies – every club in the world would say that – but it certainly aint as bad as some would have you believe. KTF!!!
I see Aussie and bris have finally figured out troy
TC- I think we’re deeper and better in mf but the same elsewhere. I wish we’d stop this carroll nonsense and a add a defender instead
Anyone know how Abeid’s performing?
B&B – if they identify a striker as a priority I’d agree with that – though I’d follow that by saying that a CB is of equal urgency in my opinion.
If they are identifying a striker as being needed then chasing Carroll is going to leave them without a striker come the end of the window (IMO). Part of me wonder whether the pursuit of Carroll is in the best interest of NUFC or whether its to rub Lpools nose in it.
If we only want to spend £12m on a striker and Lpool want £20m for Carroll, bin Carroll and land a £12m striker. Put the past behind us and move on with a new striker – or is that just too simple?!
Man city signing a big money centre half that isnt the imperious colo, surprise, surprise…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19409226
Hi everybody,
I finished reading “Soccernomics” yesterday and the authors wrote a batch of recommendations for transfers. It seems like Jabba, et al are sticking too these ideas pretty closely, except maybe the one about players with personal problems. What do you think?
“As a free service to clubs, here ar the twelve main secrets of the transfer market in full:
A new manger wastes money on transfers; don’t let him.
Use the wisdom of crowds.
Stars of recent World Cups or European Championships are overvalued; ignore them.
Certain nationalities are overvalued.
Older players are overvalued.
Center forwards are overvalued; goalkeepers are undervalued.
Gentlemen prefer blonds: identify and abandon “sight-based prejudices.”
The best time to buy a player is when he is in his early twenties.
Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth.
Replace your best players even before you sell them.
Buy players with personal problems, and then help them deal with their problems.
Help your players relocate.”
Sharpy – I think they must think there’s a chance of getting Carroll for much closer to £12M than £20M. He’s only worth £12M or so IMO.
SHARPY some people never learn imo everybody is talking about a striker can you remember last seasons quote from pardew ; mike wants to know when are we going to sign a c/b that was after we signed cissie,ime still laughing mate fairy storeys,i just take things as they come and take no notice of whats said club just say what they think the fans want to hear,ill still do what ive always do support the toon no matter what, been down this road for many yrs,i will twist and moan from time to time,but just get on with it what else can we do?
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@aussie & Bris
I left your conversation this morning cos Ive been on nights and went to bed. Aussie went to bed in the huff having had an almighty hissy fit.
Again, please trawl back. I was having a sensible conversation with Bootsy and up pops Aussie with a sarcastic comment. I warned him about my disclaimer.
Anyway back to footy, @B&B, I think you are spot on there with your views of Ashley. They will identify a player and value him and if they don’t get him they will move on unpeturbed.
Likewise with Cazza, they will leave it til January if they don’t get him and not worry about it.
cant understand that we wouldnt get a cb..
A striker can wait until january
B&B – and also my opinion but to be fair that means jack shit!, if Lpool value him at £20m they won’t sell at £12m. It’s like my 3yr old son keep asking the same question til he does my tits in enough for me to say yes!.
As for Newcastles valuations, well we have all seen how that has worked out so far – Ravel Morrison and Tomkins in Jan to most of the targets this summer the board have offered too litlle.
Ice – I know you’re right mate but when something grips my shit I prefer to get it off my chest like. Particularly as the club is urging fans to buy tickets for the up and coming games or folk out another £50 notes on the new shitey lime green shirt – yet they give nowt back!
100% Agree Aussie @ 129
……
Im sure there are plenty of mediocre players about either over rated or simply past their sell by date
Or
We can go back to paying over the odds with clubs shifting prices as soon as we are interested
Ive said previous imo its crucial for us to stick to the current transfer policy in order to prevent being held to ransom in future and if that means no one comes in now ..so be it , with the current squad and youngsters knocking on door still think we will finish top 6 and more than capable to putting together a good run in Europe.
If there is truth in the Journal stating we only in market for strikers now personally id prefer that to be Remy rather than Carroll
But if we were willing to break all policy(age/wage structure) Huntelaars buy-out clause is reportedly about the same as whats been claimed we could bid for Carroll £17 million.( i know who would get more goals )
But still no need for panic and certainly not some of the doom n gloom typed on a lot of sites last few days
As for players going out ill be amazed if Cabaye or Tiote goes for £15 mil its gonna take a lot more than that for Ashley to part with either of them.
Sooner the window is bolted shut the better
SHARPY nowt wrong with a good old moan mate you go for it,one of the reasons the blogs here lol,think back a few yrs with no blogs we only had a mirror to talk to
“,ill still do what ive always do support the toon no matter what, been down this road for many yrs,i will twist and moan from time to time,but just get on with it what else can we do?”
Amen Ice
Ice @144 ,Your dead right about the blog ,stops me going stir crazy if I can come on here and vent my spleen like.
@Spyro
It will be interesting to see how the club react to bids for our players as it hasn’t really happened yet other than Caroll and they drove a hard bargain.
I would be amazed if they let either Cabaye or Tiote leave for less than £20m each bearing in mind Modric’s price tag.
I defo don’t want the window shut without strengthening.
Pardew press conference. Via Lee Ryder on Twitter:
When asked if Andy Carroll deal was still on the table AP said: “Not as far as I’m aware.”
ROSSCO will be just be a pre-match conf mate,
ganning oot for couple of hour clear the heed lol
Ice – I’ve supported NUFC all my live and have seen worse times than this, so I’m not gonna throw the towel now that’s for sure.
But if they expect fans to spend their own hard earn money on tickets and shirts when they aren’t spending money they’ve got from TV deals and such like – ie not THEIR money. Then I for one won’t be.
Looks like no more players in at the toon. We had a chance to push on and strengthen our squad but we haven’t. Disappointing end yet again!
Troy, you can’t hide your hissy fit behind a couple of smiley faces.. boy o boy, I have never seen you so mad. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed
SHARPY i understand mate,i made my own little protest two yrs ago by not re-newing my season ticket i had for many yrs,i just pick and chose the games “i” want to go to,and bye dog shit from the club,a poor effort at a protest but made me feel better
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@Rossco
I hope that’s a double bluff from Pards.
“We know who we are watching If there is movement on targets we may trigger ourselves” presumably referring to Debuchy
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@Aussie
You know why the disclaimer is there.
All because of you.
@Hitman
Keep your powder dry fella.
It’s not over til the fat man sings and Lambias streaks owa the pitch.
The disclaimer is there is because you are an attention seeker Troyster, no other reason…
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@Aussie
Stop nibbling man!
You know where it leads
I’m willing to discuss footy with you sensibly. I would love to rip it out of you but I’ve learnt I can’t do that as you bang doors and go to bed in the huff.
Now talk footy and leave the Micky taking to me.
What about Pards’ suggesting we aren’t in for Carroll?
Bit like me Kim, I am always more inspired to write articles when I am p*ssed off about something
No Carroll mate, not unless Liverpool totally drop their dacks… I’d prefer a small pacey forward so we can counter better. We are lacking that more than a big target man.. still like to see some defensive cover tho…
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@Moreno
It’s natural to be able to write better when angry, in love or happy.
I write all my best love songs when I’m in love.
Mrs S loves me to get the acoustic out and sing a love song in the back garden to her.
The totally bizarre thing is that for 18 months we’ve heard Pardew telling us that the defence needs strengthening, yet we still have our Championship defence.
Almost negligence on the part of the club imo.
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@Aussie
I would like to see Cazza here for the right price and wages but if they pull a fast pacey forward out of the bag then fair do’s.
If all this speculation over months comes down to Anita signing then even the diehard Ashley fans must be critical of their messiah.
Troy,
I hope the Carroll deal ISN’T still on, not unless Liverpool will accept 12mil.
Not saying he isn’t a good player, simply that he isn’t worth more than that.
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Loïc Remy, Andre Ayew, Martin Harnik.
Would much rather we went for these players if we were ever going to spend that kind of money.
Don’t believe we will though.
Personally i rate Cabaye as good if not better better than Modric certainly in terms of consistancy so if an offer was to come in we can start the bidding there
I think board are waiting to see ..A..if we qualify for next stage of Europa and B. Who they may need to replace quickly
Carr said end of last season they were working on January targets then because all summer targets were already identified so it may be case we have just not been able to get those and unwilling to look at players who were not good enough to be a target in the first place.
Also by time January window opens we will know if we losing Tiote or Ba/Cisse to ACON
Yes its a risk not to strengthen squad but a calculated one given the current squad was good enough to challenge up til the end last year and technically you can argue with players left and those brought in we are stronger already.
Priorities.
Dont lose anyone
Beat the Greeks
Shut the Window
Stuff the Villa
and if between Greeks and window shutting someone sneaks through the door ..great and if no-one ..great, all the bullshit speculation and silly season rumours can end
Even Simmo may get a bit of confidence not reading every day he is being replaced.
“Mrs S loves me to get the acoustic out and sing a love song in the back garden to her.
”
I didn’t know Big Dave was in to love songs…
You talk a lot of sense Spyro.
Spyro @ 165
That post makes a lot of sense mate. Not sure if Ashley is thinking alone those lines, but it does make sense.
@166 I didn’t realise he’d started referring to him as “Mrs S”!
TC
@167, your post makes a lot of sense too
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@Spyro
If we get thru this window without selling any stars then that’s a huge bonus but I’m not sure if the players will feel elated if we don’t strengthen.
Newcastle will not buy a player for the sake of it, to make up numbers or if the deal is not right. If you understand this you will not be surprised or angered if we don’t get another player in. We have seen the the past few windows and I can’t see things changing.
Does it make it right? Not really but this is the way of things as it stands..
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@JJ
Now come on, I put the disclaimer up for the likes of you & Chicken. You know you can’t take the banter when I give it back.
On football, I do think Cazza is worth up to £15m. I would love to see him back.
Troy @171
Last season we were being critical saying the board weren’t showing any ambition, which was a bit unfair on the likes of Ba and Cabaye who are now both rated over 10mil…
I guess we won’t know at the end of the transfer window, but rather by January if the board decisions will prove to be correct this time round.
Campbell/Amalfitano/Bigi could turn out to be stars in the cups/Europa.
I will be disappointed if we don’t add a defender though.
Haha so looks like we aren’t going to bring anyone in! Gonna enjoy people coming on here ranting and raving
Spyro@165 ,The only trouble with waiting until january for striker if we need one ,for instance should we lose the Dembas ,is everyone knows we need one and will hold us to ransom.
Also on the stuffing Villa thing ,they won last night scored 3 goals and that may well of instilled some much needed confidence for facing us.We can’t take anything for granted and you know what we are like for slipping up in games we should win. Much as I can see what you say makes some sense we can’t excuse the board for not sorting out a CB by now in all honesty,even the most pro Ash brigade would have to admit that much.
JJ(on the list of players)
Who’s the first guy you mention there? Haven’t heard of him, and is certainly one I’d like to hear the crowd try and chant.
Moreno@159 .If being p****d off inspires you to write articles I have a feeling you might be firing a few off once the window shuts somehow.
What time does the Lille v Copenhagen match start?
Andy,
He plays for Gabon, talented pacey striker/winger who plays for Saint-Étienne.
He scored three goals and got three assists in the ACN in four games.
I’ve only ever watched him play for Gabon, but the stats say he has scored 19 goals and got 7 assists for Saint-Étienne in 46 appearances since last season started. He is only 23.
I reckon he’d cost around 9million pounds.
Still he’s just a player I like. Be interesting to see how he develops in the next few years. No doubt he’ll be a big name
Here’s hoping for a Copenhagen win
. Kom mine tilhængere! (my best literal translation of HWTL).
JJ@180 ,Only problem there is he’s another one we’d lose to Acon .
Kim @176,
Problem is Ashley won’t be held to randsom, so then we just won’t buy in January either
JJ@184,Exactly ,so we’re screwed then.
Kim true,
Ivory Coast play Senegal on Sept 8 and then again on Oct 12 so I guess we’ll know by then… Hopefully Senegal lose and then we won’t have to worry about ACN for another two seasons.
Andymag:
Danish?????
JJ
Sounds like a good player from those stats but I’m with Kim that we’d lose him in January(If Gabon get through), meaning we might only fein(is that a word 
?) interest.
Bit like Enkelburg Humpadink
I see Pards has now said he thinks our transfer dealings for this window could well be over
They will keep an eye out for anyone interesting but unlikely. Also said Andy Carroll not coming back as far as he is aware. Well I can get on with stuff now that I know it’s all done with and switch off SSN.
kim
like pards said we werent after a striker in january…
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@JJ
Cabaye came with a reputation and cost about £5m didnt he? whereas BigiBigi cost next to nixy and no reputation.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
Nice description of THAT goal by Philly Albert here > http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/the-greatest-goal-i-ever-saw-newcastles-phillipe-albert-vs-manchester-utd/
TC thanks for that mate,never get sick of seeing that
Can you believe this article:
http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/120829/could-newcastle-lose-spine-their-team-liverpool-man-united-spurs-and-ars-179751
Nee worries Ice
They seem to have disabled the video on that site but you can watch full highlights from that game here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ofK3WwdUZHo
Yeah i noticed Villa won last night
Agree we could have done with a CB as cover for Colo/Saylor but if one of those 2 crocked (probably Taylor) ive no probs having Perch stepping in.
In misfortune of both 1st choice being unavailable as long as we not talking long term injuries Willo (while not ideal decent to have as 4th choice). How good is Good could be he jumps ahead of Willo – aint seen the kid play so i cant pass judgment..but we cant buy on off chance we might pick up a serious injury
Pardew has already said that Ashley expects more playing time from squad/younger players this season.So i was never expecting too many signings.
Maybe later into season we do have a few injuries and our hand gets forced into playing someone like Campbell or Streete ahead of time. Sink or Swim ..if you good enough you are old enough.
Could just be because over the years ive seen too many supposed quality signings ( and not just signed by us ) turn out to be clueless , id like to see a couple of local lads burst through and start a couple of new chapters in black n white folklore.
TC aye mate went there too done that,sometimes just need a push to bring the grey matter into line
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