Haris fires us through
Newcastle United sealed their passage into the Europa League group stage with a 1-0 victory over Greek side Atromitos giving them a 2-1 victory over the two legs.
A strike from substitute Haris Vuckic was all the team needed to ensure they were in the draw which took place yesterday amidst the madness that it transfer window deadline day.
Now we know who we will be facing if we are to progress in the competition. We’ll be facing trips to France, Belgium and Portugal to take on Bordeaux, Club Brugge and Maritimo respectively which, when you look at the distances involved, isn’t as bad as it could have been and all of them are pretty easy to reach.
The side had many changes from the first leg tie, notably Tim Krul found himself back involved in between the sticks. It was a blend of experience, fringe players and youth.
Newcastle started brightly, Sylvain Marveaux proving a dangerous outlet for the Magpies and drew a save from Itandje when drifting in from the left flank before striking a fierce shot that had to be saved by the Greek side’s goalkeeper.
Demba Ba looked at the top of his game, challenging for the ball and drawing free kicks from the defenders. It seems as if the Senegal international has decided to up his game after fading into obscurity when Papiss Cisse joined during the transfer window.
The first half should have seen Newcastle double their lead and ensure the tie was over but that was not the case. Resolute defending from Atromitos saw Haris Vuckic have a shot blocked and other opportunities the home side had were wasted.
Gabriel Obertan returned to the side and seemed to be up for the challenge after having a torrid time since joining last summer. He used his pace to his advantage and sent in many crosses for Newcastle to attack. He even had an opportunity to score in the second half, one he took perhaps too long to decide what to do with it and the other had to be pushed away by Itjande.
The team survived a scare in the first half when Chumbinho was adjudged to have dived in the penalty box. Television replays suggested otherwise and Tim Krul found himself to be a very lucky man to still be on the pitch.
If the first half was anything to go by, then you expected the second half to build on that excitement. That was not the case, Newcastle seemed to lack the energy that they had shown, allowing Atromitos to find themselves a foothold in the game.
There were more chances for Newcastle to further their advantage but again opportunities were wasted.
But one goal was enough to see the Magpies through into the group stages of the Europa League.
With good performances from fringe players such as Marveaux and Obertan, Pardew will be pleased with the way that his side dispatched with the Greek side.
The only worry is the injuries to Ryan Taylor and James Perch. Perch’s injury seems less serious but Pardew was deeply concerned with the injury to Ryan Taylor.
All in all it was a fantastic night for all those involved with the club and it ensures that European football will stay at St James’ Park for a little while longer.
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I for one am very positive about the new season as we have lost no first teamers and by not bringing too many in it gives opportunities for the promising looking kids to improve and know they’ll have a chance to at least play in the cups. On the down side the performance against Atromitos was awful and we were very lucky to stay in. The defence seemed to be all over the place and any through ball from them looked dangerous. We were fortunate to have the referee on our side in this one. I was particularly unimpressed with our dead ball delivery which was almost non-existent and lost count of the times it hit the first man. This makes me think Ryan Taylor may be a terrible miss if not quite the catastrophe that losing S Taylor last year was. Sort it out toon – hopefully we can relax a bit after a first team win tomorrow.
Good read as usual Zoe, yeah we have done well up to now but I think we’re going to have to start playing more of our better players to keep going.
And it’s a bit shit for Raylor being out for several months as he is a valuable player for us, and will be missed, I just hope they get someone to start practising free kicks and corners.
Good draw imho could have been a lot worse, See Liverpool for that good luck with anzi and udinese brenda.
We kept everyone which was the main thing, We needed another centre half so that will more than likely bite us on the arse sooner rather than later, Not the worst window ever could/should have been better.
happy’ish that we still have our 1st XI, but seeing some of the cheaper deals of yesterday (Nzonzi,Danny Rose,Mbia).. anyone of these would have added to the defensive strength, midfield or defence. Just thinking we now have 6 extra games before January and we are thin on the ground.
I know I’m going to get stick for this………but…… what about Owen on a 6 month contact, to take us to January, he can warm our bench rather than someone elses. yes I know, I should think before typing, but we are struggling if Ba or Cisse get injured and we haven’t done anything about it.
I assume the plan is to play one up top with Benny playing off him if we do suffer an injury, but bench warmer can pop in goal now and then.
I am not so worried about are attacking options untill january with Ba Cisse Ameobi and Campell so long as we play anything other than 442. Defence on the other hand is very worrying ,can only hope we have no more injuries.if that happens then i hope to god tavernier and Good have it in them to step up to the plate maybe Ferguson too as fullback
so now the dust has settled and we can all look at whats happened yesterday ,i thnk whats important for us now is not to look at who we did not bring in but at what our rivals for top 6 have done .For me Spurs , Everton a have improved their squads this summer and those plus Liverpool and us will be the ones in the mix . Come the next transfer window , then it all starts again .
still up untill then i only have one thing to say HOWAY THE LADS 
@Kev Are you high?
Was really happy with the result, not so with the performance. Though we were supposed to be working on set pieces this summer?!
Obertan was a lot better but I still don’t understand why there’s so many of these wingers with pace that can dribble but can’t get in a decent cross. Just stay and do some extra training to work on it Gabby!
@Axel
Think it’s arguable for Spurs
Siggy for VdV
Vertonghan for King/Bassong/Nelson
Dembele for Modric
Dempsey for Saha/Kranjaer/Pavylachenko/Pienaar
Lloris is an improvement but I thought Brad was good last year anyway.
They’ve also lost squad players like Corluka and Dos Santos.
Liverpool fans are pretty livid with their transfer window. Carroll deal is similar to Best for us, if they didn’t have a replacement in mind, why let the player leave for such an unhelpful amount of money and risk leaving yourself short.
That and the hilarity of loaning out a British record signing
happy with the 1st 11 when all fit ,gutted about raylor think he is a decent player but our bench is weak i reckon ,cant see us topping group bordeaux no push overs and bruge
solano carrol was a 1st teamer when he left us ,but only a benchwarmer for pool
@KK What?
I’m comparing Carroll at Liverpool to Best at Newcastle. ie. They both let back up players go for a pittance, despite not having a replacement in mind. For the sake of 2 Million it would have made more sense to keep Best as 3rd choice striker and not take the gamble on injuries/ACON
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@Zoe
Good article. Disagree with a couple of points tho.
Ba certainly did not look at the top of his game. He and Cisse have looked very poor so far, ( Ba’s goal aside) but Ba looked slightly better on Thursday. Long way off his best IMO .
I thought the opposition looked like an amateur side but somehow created a few extremely good chances and in the away leg scored a terrific goal.
I appreciate this was predominantly our second string though some big names were involved.
Very average performance considering we were playing a very average side.
The result was crucial but I hope that doesn’t paper over the obvious cracks.
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@Trumpet
I agree with you about Carroll. Surely they should have kept him if they didn’t have a replacement in mind.
Does Rodgers really believe he’s that bad?
I see Sino Still with us, he will go on free, thats 3 to 5 mil down the pan. A lot of teams have very few strikers this season, are we all now adopting contential style Football now.
Chelski got hammerd yesterday, europe will be thougher than I thought! But we could still keep in it but our league postion will suffer with about 4 to 8 places, risky buisness.
@Troy
Most the Liverpool fans actually have a fair opinion on him! They think he should have been given a run of games and that he showed great potential at the end of last year.
Rogers is just stubborn. I hate the assumption that playing a big man = bad football. Stoke is awful yes. But the Norwich way last year was really exciting, working the ball quickly, getting the ball down the wing to the byline and whipping it in. That’s what the should be doing.
They are in for a terrible season imo.
SOLANOS TRUMPET when you look at the players you listed ,your right about spurs being questionable . They have lost a fair amount of depth in their squad and one of their better players Pienaar has gone to a rival club for top 6.
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@trumpet
I believe he’s got great skill and is quite capable of playing in a footballing team.
However, there’s no problem if Rodgers does not see him fitting into his style and wants to get rid of him.
I just don’t get why they would loan him out and and not get a replacement. You would think they would retain him until they have one.
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Absolutely delighted we’ve kept our players and I see no reason why we shouldnt have another top 6 finish but I’m disappointed we didn’t get Carroll as I think we could have pushed on further with him in the squad.
@Troy, I don’t think they ever had any intention of selling him to us unless it was for a huge price. They definitely wouldn’t have loaned him to us.
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@ Batty
I’m feeling you are forgiving Cazza for leaving the toon noo you don’t refer to him as Judas anymore.
I can see you changing your name to Cazzaforever next.
Even Pards is saying Ba & Cisse are a little off, if you look at the Chronicle this morning. It’s just a matter of time, though, isn’t it? I think Cisse had several brief dry patches punctuated by two goal performances in succession, so maybe he’ll get a few tomorrow…
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@FSOTC
I don’t think there are any concerns about Ba & Cisse. They have been off the pace due to Ramadan like they were last season.
I’m assuming it’s been Ramadan as I’m not a Muslim and eat like a pig all year round.
Maybe Ba and Cisse were a bit of because they are the players thst Pards said had their heeds turned by other teams.
As I said lastnight if they had their heeds turned even after a season of finishing 5while fighting it out fir a CL place, and we now have the Europa lge.
What will it be like for the players if we don’t make it this season ? Will their heeds be easier turned ??
I’m surprised no one else mentioned it
wait a second i just realize that there may be someone who can improve our striking option..
1)had played in some top teams before so full of experience..check
2)free transfer so must be cheap…check
3)desperate to move to an EPL club…check
4)familiar with our club surroundings and history so will not need time to settle…check
im sure you had guess it correctly…MICHEAL OWEN.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8040472/Owen-still-searching-for-club
most of you wants carroll back so whats wrong with a return of our former captain
Nice article Zoe, I’m very pleased with our Europa draw no really long trips for the players or fans thankfully. Think Bordaux may be tougher than some think and hopefully we can progress in the group. I’m hopeing Cisse and Ba being a wee bit quiet is the after effect of Ramadan, wasn’t Ba a little slow off the mark when he joined us ?. It was o.k when Ba went off the boil back end of last season cause we had Cisse scoring for fun ,but if they both go quiet then there is no real plan b . Defence scares me witless tbh ,we are one major injury away from a disaster imo and Raylor will be a massive miss too.I wish the lad a speedy recovery for all our sakes ,cause he was /is our most effective free kick taker.Who’s gonna put one over the wall against the Scum in october now
. Anyway I intend to put myself fully behind the lads safe in the knowledge they will give it their all and hope for top 8 and a cup win. 
Off topic but back page of the Sun “We have spent millions but I still havn’t got the players I wanted” Mancini
I dunno some folk are never happy eh 
Yeah, Troy, they’ll heat up. Ba’s goal against the spuds was excellent, and he’s been close a few other times already.
This is Cisses first full season with us, so I wonder what he was like at the beginning of the season at Freiburg. I imagine some braniac from the planet Smartron could dig up stats, but I’ll settle for assuming his life-long goal ratio will kick in again for us soon.
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@Ron
You got your fishing rod out. ?
You can eat like a pig and still be a Muslim, as long as you don’t actually eat pig, if I’ve got it right…
A pay as you play short termer for lil’ Mickey Owen?
Fans, If memory serves me ,he was scoring freely all season with them but they were a poor team apparently.
Just watching WestHam vFulham and Carroll has just won a header which he knocked on for Nolan to score in the first minute and he’s looking very good .
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Cazza’s causing havoc for WH.
Having initially been extremely dissapointed we did not get a FB and CB I realised we still have a good team and kids who can steadily step in.
One thought crossed my mind, the best ran clubs of recent years – Spurs, Arsenal and NUFC have pretty much kept their powder dry. All boards are acting similarly. Could it be with financial prudence impending we (the well ran clubs) have decided to bank some of the cash to establish a dominant position as other clubs cash runs out? At that point we can be more aggressive in the market than anyone as suddenly – cash will be a finite resource?
Just a thought…
Carroll having a massive impact in this game ,Fulham well under the cosh.If he keeps this up they won’t go down ,astute signing by fat Sam I’d say.
Kim
He’ll justify 20m for WH to sign next year if he does well, that’s why I’m annoyed we didn’t press for 17m in the summer.
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@Stardust
If they wanted to keep their powder dry, why do you believe we made a £12m bid for Carroll, £6M for Debuchy and bought Anita for £6m?
We’re they just smokescreen bids?
Troy ,I’m so gutted we missed out on getting him back ,and I ain’t looking forward to playing the Hammers now. Unlike Liverpool they know how to use him and Vaz te and Nolan look good too.
Big Andy scored for them hammers, I see.
Ah, sorry, no, was involved in the goal. Silly me.
Jesus ,with more luck the Hammers could be 3 or 4 up already ,Carroll has revitalised them.
Liverpool will be fizzin watching this ,what with missing out on Dempsey too
Big Fat Sam certainly will play to Tarzan’s strengths.
Kim @40
at least they can console themselves with the prospect of a nice warm trip to face Dagestan’s finest in November
suck it Liverpool
West ham 2.0 up now
in fact they go there 4 days after facing us at Anfield. Hopefully we can give em a nice send off
Hope the Dippers end up in a world of hurt, sack Rodgers and sign James Milner and Kevin Nolan for 80mn.
West Ham 3.0 up
Nolan ,Reid and Taylor. Goal scorers all over the team.
Arent Sat horrible when there is football on and Newcastle arent playin?
Scott Muray on the Guardian has dubbed it “The Andy Carroll Experience.”
Fans ,he’s given them an extra dimention which if Rogers wasn’t so narrow minded could of utilised at liverpool in a different formation ,a plan b if you like. That’s why I would of liked him back, he’s no where near as bad as people say and opo defences hate playing against him. Actually really pissed off at MA making that loan bid as it kinda built up my hopes a bit and probably opened up old wounds for some fans ,just getting over him going. To compound it all we make no first team signings other than Anita who looks like a replacement for Tiote who if fit I think would of been sold .
Johno @47 ,Too true, miss regular 3p.m kick offs.
LPool never would have sold Carroll back to us IMO…
MDS, think you may be right there.
Kim. I think we would have had to really give a crazy high bid which obviously isn’t our style.
I agree that he provides pool something different and useful and that Rodgers is making a mistake here. Maybe there is more to the story like problems in training or off the pitch that we don’t know about. Strange to me how he wanted rid from day1
Carroll injured
Andy Carroll looks like hes done his groin
Scratch that last
M says:
September 1, 2012 at 13:11
Kim @40
at least they can console themselves with the prospect of a nice warm trip to face Dagestan’s finest in November
suck it Liverpool
meanwhile, this is one of the places that our lads will be travelling to
http://www.madeira-live.com/en/photos/madeira/funchal.html
Johno toon
Aye but it makes Sundays less boring
Anyways i was on Eds blog last night. jesus they are a negative bunch on there. Grantedi would have liked a couple of players but im happy for Adam Campbell to get a chance in the Prem. hopefully in Jan we can get Erik Pieters and i would be happy.
A good thumping is in order for Villa
Luke Edwards @LukeEdwardsTele
#nufc turned down two approaches for Yohan Cabaye during the final weeks of the transfer window. One was from #Arsenal
MDS ,Maybe it’s because he was a KD signing as Buck seems to want shot of all the KD signings.
3hw , Wow ,if true must of been bloody low offers then.
Chris@57 ,Looks sooo nice
Not necessarily KIm – just not offers that were way in excess of his value. Pardew maintained throughout that it would take an offer way above the club’s valuation to get any of our key players. That may well have been the case.
Right hamstring injury for Carroll , gutting for the lad.
3hr ,True ,we know Jabba likes to see them £ signs rack up.
Tell you what, Berbatov looked great. Wish we’d got him for only 4m. I know he’s old and his wages are probably right out of the question, but…
Agreed Alex. A cb that could cover at lb and i would have been very pleased with the window. Could see us getting pieters in January once he proves his fitness
Man thank goodness that damned transfer window has closed. Apart from the fact that we have made a big mistake not strengthening our squad, which will ultimately cost Ashley more money than he would have had to invest.
Another plus point is that we don’t have to put up with any more of this trivial cack….”Luke Edwards @LukeEdwardsTele
#nufc turned down two approaches for Yohan Cabaye during the final weeks of the transfer window. One was from #Arsenal”……
Congratulations “Luke Edwards” my life has been enrichened through your foresight…
West Ham 3 Fulham 0 says it all… We “chased” Maiga for 6 months, freaked him and his family out so that he fell out with his team mates. Not sure how much West Spam paid for him, but the lad couldn’t even get off the bench today in a 3-0 win… work that one out someone if it’s money well spent. Andy Carroll’s presence will galvanise West Ham and provide them with an impetus that may keep them in the EPL. = money well spent perhaps, time will show.
Fulham have a bunch of new signings in the side, including Berbatov, who probably isn’t earning peanuts, Petric etc etc They get cuffed big time…
Funny old game football.
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@Stardust
Cat got your tongue?
Dog chewed your fingers or
just staring vacantly into space unable to answer my question?
What a stinker yesterday was!!, done me heed in I couldn’t get involved with the crack … so maybe a little lengthy this one but I’ve got acouple of things to catch up on .. starting with Europa ..
I didnt get to see the game live but recorded it and watched it yesterday afternoon on double speed – which is actually alot better
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. With height of Ba and Vukic in the box, we needed decent crosses, corners and freekicks into the box to be quality and most of them really weren’t.
We were great but IMO there were positives from the game. Starting with the obvious – Obertan and Marv looked so much better than they did in the first leg. Williamson looked solid at the back and whilst I’ve never been happy seeing Perch at CB, I do think he’s very capable at DCM and when he slot in at LB.
Bigi looked good and didn’t seem over whelmed by it all, and I think he’s competent enough to feature quite regularly this season if needed.
I thought Haris Vukic looked very lively when he came on – and I’ll come back to him in my next point.
Disappointments – Gosling for me still didn’t perform to a standard he needs to. He just never seems to effect the game in anyway – I’d be interested to see his stats when he does play.
Also, I agree with those who say Ba didn’t look his best, nor does Cisse – but get Ramadan out of the way and they will be back.
The other frustration for me was balls into the box
In terms of our group draw – it could have been alot worse and even playing a weaken team I think we should still finish in the top 2 of this group.
So, the transfer window
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Firstly – well done for keeping hold of all of our players. That was very important for us but it would be very interesting to know what bids we did receive?!. Pardew came out yesterday and said it was highly unlikely that we would have signed anyone yesterday – and congratulations, it took until the last day of the window to be honest about incoming transfers.
I am happy with the players who came in but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed by the fact that we didn’t do more. It’s obvious the areas in which we are short and a net spend of £3m does not show ambition, and if fans think that, then so will the players we have done so well to hold onto, and that would worry me for future windows. I know it could be said that clubs like Lpool have failed to strengthen as well and should have more money at their disposal, but I do think that Spurs have a stronger squad than last year, as does Everton. Other clubs, West Ham and QPR have also improved well.
So Newcastle going forward til Jan, well I still believe we are a CB short. FB we looked ok before Thurs with injuries to Raylor and Perch is abit worrying. Thurs did give more confidence that if Pardew uses Vukic as a CF, he’d be a very good option. I’d have him train with Ba, Cisse and Campbell and work on the sharpness of his finishing, but his size and movement would make him a good CF IMO and he and Campbell could be a good partnership.
Personally I’d forget about him being a ACM and get him up there. At 20, he’s still young enough to develop there and alot of Thurs he played beyond Ba. Pardew has nowt to loose and Vukic could save us having to look for a new striker.
Finally – I didnt really want us to go back to Carroll, he’s done really well by all accounts for West Hammer today and good luck to him. But I don’t think he’d fit our style of play – excellent for Big SAMs hoof ball/long ball game, but not for us. As for going back to Owen?!
Talk sense man!!
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@Stardust
I’ve turned off the auto hissy fitter identifier so you should be ok .
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@Sharpy
You stated you would say more on gosling but never. I thought he was abysmal considering the opposition were very poor.
I thought Bigi looked either rusty or out of his depth for most of his play.
He’s got more time on his hands but I fear Gosling just hasn’t got it.
I’m philosophical about the coming season. I see no reason why we can’t get a top 6 finish again but I’m disappointed we didn’t strengthen and try to push on for 4th place.
I laughed when I heard Pards stating that his intention was to try and get a CL spot.
We came 5th and never really strengthened and have to contend with euro games.
How does that work?
bigi played well in the greace game ,ober was fantastic ,gutted adout raylor,tav played well up the left.and the streaker was a fast right back!.i do hope the two dembas pic up a bit ! .oh well that us in euros……well done nufc!
Troy this is the logic. No totally agreeing with it. If you compare our squads with 12 months ago we are starting this season from a much stronger position. If you compare with the end of last season it is questionable in that whilst Anita has come in to replace Guthrie and squad players have been replaced with unproven equivalent youth, I’m sure we all be happier if Best had stayed or if we had bought in a couple of the players we were linked with. We won’t be up with Chelsea or the Manchester clubs, but we are in as good a place as any other of the chasing pack.
Troy, you’ve jousted them all into a corner and they’re afraid to come out now….
Does it irritate you having to check the blog every 4 minutes to see if anyone has bitten when you could be doing something useful in the garden ?
Troy – it was Vukic I was coming back to and that was to say that I hope they develop him in the CF position rather than playing him ACM as I think he should be on the end of chances not trying to create them. Work on his finishing and I think he’ll be a competent forward.
I agree that Bigi looked abit rusty but certainly didn’t look out of his depth and I think he could be a real quality player in time, and will certainly benefit playing and training with Cabaye and Tiote.
I have nothing further to say about Gosling. He has never really impressed me from what I’ve seen of him and just seems to make up the numbers. Not good enough for me and I’d hope that Amalfitano gets his chance ahead of Gosling now to show what he’s got.
3HOURSWASTED
September 1, 2012 at 14:16
Luke Edwards @LukeEdwardsTele
#nufc turned down two approaches for Yohan Cabaye during the final weeks of the transfer window. One was from #Arsenal
>Obviously Pardew was referring to Cabaye this morning in the Journal
Agreed premandup.
We are a sell in order to buy club for the most part. The Carroll sale remade the club for the most part and it will take another big sale to add the type of players people seem to want. Nothing wrong with that as it has worked well for spurs. Without major sales you will see windows like this one: adding a few youngsters with promise while losing a few fringe players
3hourswasted
>Obviously Pardew was referring to Cabaye this morning in the Journal
Troy, I agree wholeheartedly regarding Gosling. Sorry but the lad doesn’t do enough for me. At the moment he looks like a player we nicked for free and took a gamble on. From what I’ve seen so far this gamble has backfired on us imo.
Regarding Bigi, I disagree. I thought he did ok against the Greeks, and in an untried central midfield he looked like the player taking the responsibility, despite his age and the fact that he had an ex England international in Gosling alongside him. I think he will mature into an excellent midfielder for the toon, of the fetcher and carrier variety, mopping up everywhere, always showing for the ball. Time will show if he can develop his distribution and introduce the killer pass, but I reckon with the right coaching, and a bit more meat on his bones, that will come. This is a 500K gamble which most definitely hasn’t backfired on us imo…
MDS….”We are a sell in order to buy club for the most part. “…. do you really believe that ?
Didn’t have time this morning – RE the Journal article this morning, inside which, Pardew does give off the idea some players are unhappy. Cabaye has hardly featured preseason, why? why wasn’t he ready?
Was it, Debuchy? Transfer Bid? Dispute with board? He certainly has not looked happy….
Some of Pardews words this morning make me believe there are some underlying issues with some players. Especially Cabaye.
Fletcher’s got two goals for Sunderland…
I agreewith those doubting Gosling to me he looks more like a championship standard player and am not expecting much from him .Has their been any news on Perch’s injury that lad took a time to settle into the premiership but seems to get better with every game .He has become a very important player for us and i really hope he is not out for very long .Imo we will miss him more than taylor ,even though i am gutted for ryan the lad is also going to be missed . Its going to be interesting too see how Pardew now sets his teams up too play and if more out of nessesity than willingness if he gives Ranger and Xisco game time in the cups .
Bigpapa ,I can’t find the journal article ,what did Pards say about unhappy players?.
FSOTC and carroll has torn fulham apart in first half
Yes Munich. The club was clear that they intend to be self sustaining and that the owner was done pumping money in. “No capital outlay for new players” and “purchases will be funded by player sales” is what they told us 2 years ago. Not sure why people seem to expect that Ashley will change his mind every window and kick in 20m
Wonder how bad his injury is.
MDS probably because he said early on that he was prepared to pump in £20m a year to support the club.
I must have missed that Prem. If true then I stand corrected…
KIM just for you,think this is it
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/09/01/alan-pardew-tells-newcastle-stars-it-s-time-to-focus-61634-31740839/
Troy – I think the squad we have now should be good for 6th at best IMO. I think we are fortunate that other teams haven’t massively strengthened and Lpool are arguably weaker. Spurs I think are stronger but may take time to settle and Everton have started well but any injuries to key players and I think they will also struggle due to real strength in depth.
Vukic could be the answer to our CF shortage but I still feel we are short a CB and I’d be happier with a naturally left footed full back.
I would be interested to know what Ashleys plans are for the £45m we got for finishing 5th, and the TV money weve got this year?
carroll slight hamstring they are saying
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I’m lovin the fact the hissy fitters are staying well clear. It’s amazing how much time I spend trying to stop them nibbling my ankles.
The disclaimer is working a treat. If you can’t take the banter don’t give it out.
I’ve just got bumbling Boris to contend with now but as you say, he’s actually in my garden as a garden gnome. So whichever way I turn he’s there.
Poor Bumbling Boris
Bigpapa, if he was in on it or not no-one knows. However, at the end of the day Pardew has to defend the Ashley no-spend policy, and try to maintain the team spirit which helped us to over-achieve last season.
That’s why I mentioned a few weeks back that this will be a tough seaon for Pardew, cos the honeymoon is over now I’m afraid.. That doesn’t mean he’ll fail though.
To be fair MDS I think he said it when we were relegated and had more to with keeping us afloat than players coming in, but words are open to interpretation.
Troy…you got BB in the garden ? Cracks me up big man….
Sharpy17, I reckon Ashley has realigned his wallet, being filled with toon wedge, further north of the border. The Geordies are easily led, but not as easy as those Rangers bunch slogging it out in the nether regions of the Irnbru wotzit…
He’s gonna make LOADS of money on that deal…
I don’t need to say it of course, but the bloke’s not daft, money makes money as they say…
Ice – fair play to Pardew for being honest and admitting that some of the players have been effected by the window. I was never a fan of the idea of buying Debuchy to keep Cabaye happy. Buy him to improve the team but not to keep another player from wanting to leave.
I wonder if we will loose our ‘selling club’ tag now we have held on to the likes of Ba, Cabaye and Tiote?. Ironically, the club reportedly in for Cabaye and Tiote – Arsenal, sell all their best players and it is suggested that Cabaye would go there coz we lack ambition?!
Not sure if I can work that one out myself like.
We werent far off them last season in the league and loosing RVP and Song replacing them with Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla – are they stronger?. There is also still unrest there with the Walcott situation so I would have to argue whether a player would go there to further their footballing career. They’d probably pay better wages though.
MM – I think it needs answering to be honest. I’m sure of the exact amount but I think it’s around £20-30m they would have got TV money and around £45m for finishing 5th. That’s alot of money to have only spend £3m in this window. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting I expected we would have spent £50m plus in this window – but certainly around £20m for a FB, CB and CF would have been realistic based on the money coming into the club.
If it has gone to paying off the loan from Ashley, fair enough too. But it’s a lot of money in with very little spent IMO.
Ice ,Thanks for the link.
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