No more reaction like this?
Many clubs have, perhaps for the sake of complying with UEFA’s rules, decided against spending outlandishly in order to keep their books balanced throughout the year.
It got me thinking, could we get rid of the January transfer window? Effectively placing a transfer embargo on the clubs until the summer window opened up again.
The January transfer window does have opportunities for clubs who decide to sign players in that period but it does cause hassle for other teams as they have to replace and integrate players if business is done.
What I’m suggesting here is that the clubs do their transfer work in the summer, they sign however many players they want as long as they keep their books in order.
At the end of the window they will no longer be able to buy players in the January transfer window but will have to work with what they’ve got until the summer window opens again.
The summer window would then become the priority for all clubs, they would have to make sure that they sign their targets in that given period.
It would perhaps cut down on players being tempted by other clubs during the season and ensure that they remained at the club they play for until the summer window opens up again.
This is only a suggestion but with the way the climate of transfer window’s operates then it would make sense for teams to do all of their business in the summer months, so that their team does not become disrupted with the thought of the January transfer window around the corner.
Perhaps it would see teams close the gap on each other? Of course, the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City and Manchester United would still spend big but it would see teams become more competitive and that they would have a chance against teams that in the past have spent big.
It is only a thought that popped into my mind, we all know the trouble that transfer windows can cause for a team such as Newcastle United. If the January transfer window was taken away it would see clubs having to complete their business in the summer window and making sure that they have enough players for the duration of the season.
What do you think? Should the January transfer window stay or go?
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Not only would i like too see the january window scrapped , i would say shorten the summer window also . Let that open 1week after the last game of the season and close it 2 weeks before the season starts with each team allowed 2 loan signings through the season if a club has more than 5 long term injurys to senior players .
Zoe good read and a few good ideas but I just can’t see it working, I can only really see 1 or 2 reasons that it would be good to scrap the jan window.
But I can thing of a few reasons to keep the Jan window.
I think if there was only one window it would mean the big teams could buy up their quota of players whiether they needed them or not just to be on the safe side incase they needed them.
But the smaller teams with less money could find they can’t afford to buy the players they might need, and could become victims of a couple of injuries early on and there will be nowt they can do because they’ll have to wait another yr .
meant to add that having the window still open going into the season is madness, the window should be closed a couple of weeks before the season starts.
Agree with Dave, I think the Jan window is pretty important and will be kept for several reasons. Firstly the big boys would never agree to having it axed as its an opportunity for some to splash the cash and challenge for the title. Secondly some clubs can be crippled by a few injuries and all teams should have an opportunity at some point to try and strengthen/repair their squads and allow them to compete for whatever their aims are.
Just because we’re unlikely to strengthen shouldn’t mean other clubs can’t
Anyway Jan has served us well, bringing in Cisse and Arfa well below value and selling Carroll for ridiculous money. Our success has been built on January!
I’m not so sure getting rid of the Jan window is the best idea but I also see the point to getting rid.
If anything I’d prefer a scrap to all windows regardless like it used to be.
Yeah I’m not so sure the window has made much difference in protecting teams from another team tapping up its players. At least in the old days you could sell someone if they were playing shite/wanted to leave, rather than having to persist with them till the next window like us with Enrique.
I agree with Dave and Newkie, but I think there’s a more important reason why the Jan window will be kept. The bottom line is that the whole thing was set up by FIFA (with the agreement of various other organisations) so the “big boys” in the Premier League wouldn’t be able to change anything anyway, even if they wanted to:
The FIFA source told PA Sport: ”The Premier League cannot impose unilateral changes to the transfer window – it would have to be agreed by all the organisations including FIFA, UEFA and the EC.”
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=614546&sec=transfers&cc=5739
Toonsy I tend to agree with that, because the windows cause so much shit for teams and not just our team.
We should be able to buy if and when needed.
What about this? All clubs can only sign out of contract players at any time? Thereon – fixed and rigid squad / development player numbers should be applied.
This would end transfer fees, thereon there would be no capital outlay meaning effectively businesses would be ran from cashflow. .
It would mean wages can be managed easily, in addition a contract could only be terminated if both parties agree.
This would protect the development of young players,haven’t thought it through fully but on the face of it – it appears to have merits.
Stardust-Probably a nice theory but again the big lads would never accept that
Plus you’d have the problem with good players at average teams constantly spitting the dummy out and causing trouble to get a move, while the team would obviously be trying hard to keep him but probably failing. At least in this system the smaller clubs often get some form of compensation in terms of a transfer fee…if it was your scenario teams that grow players would probably have to end up letting them all go for free.
Newkie
Just been pondering your points. Smaller clubs in reality get peanuts for their premium players, Bigi for 1mn?!! For example.
They have to find funds to buy players. So it would remove that cost. Their wages would then need to be set in relation to turnover – which means the small clubs endure.
A finite pool of players would prevent wastefulness a la Man City – which means players will only move when a vacancy becomes available. The length of contracts would be a negotiation tool which if handled correctly could prove enduring and successful.
Big progress for clubs would never be quick but it would be more honest and something we could all identify with?
Its a far longer term view – but my gut is I prefer that to the Man City, Chelsea scenario’s.
Stardust-Peanuts for PL clubs maybe, and Coventry probably isn’t a great example given they’re a decentish side, but 1mil for most lower league sides isn’t bad money. Nick Powell to united from crewe, 4million? Good money really, could keep them running for years.
Plus there’s some sides that seem to keep afloat from discovering, nurturing and selling talent. Porto are a good example, Lille and Ajax too. Proposing the whole world switch to that system would cause chaos really.
Some good points made… I would like to take it a step further and make a contract a hard and fast deal that can’t be broken. If a club signs a player by mutual agreement then the player should see out the term of that contract with the club. If a player or club wants to break the deal then it should go before an independant board for ruling. This would make clubs more careful with how much they will pay in fees and wages to a player over the term of the contract. The way it stands, there is no point having a contracted player other than it may secure you more money if another club comes shopping.
Newkie – nothing like a bit of chaos to spice things up!
Anyone know if IC v Senegal has started?
@2- I wiuld not make the summer window too short, clubs wiuld be getting players tapped up heavily during the season run in. It would be hell for a club like us.
Just checked, 6pmKO.
ANDY just for you mate
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/ivory-coast-senegal-live-stream-cheick-tiote-papiss-cisse-demba-ba-newcastle-united/?
I was just about to come on and ask if anybody’s got links for Senegal-Ivory Coast, but looks like maybe so… nice…
Cheers ice
Not on tv then?
Stardy @ 9 don’t give up the day job Fella because it’s clear that there is no career for you in footie trouble shooting
there is no way your idea would work, there is more chance of an international wage cap and we both know theres no chance of that happening 
ANDY be thankful for small gifts
Ice
Is that what you tell girls?
I think with transfers their should be a rule made that any player under 21that is snapped up by another club should automatically have a 25% sell on fee placed on them .That would protect the small clubs ,you just have too look at our tim krul we snapped him up for pea nuts from Ado DenHaag .He is now Hollands national teams no1.What must the lad now be worth in the transfer market ? the same could happen with Biggi .we snapped him up for next to nowt in terms of premiership fees and already he has played for the first team . If he keeps progressing over the next 2years he will be worth 10 m +. If the authorities running football really want financial fairplay and stop the small clubs going to the wall its time they made sure the little teams profit further down the line when the rough diamonds they found and brought through are sold again later on for 10′sof millions .This would have aknock on effect all the way too grass roots football.
Axel
That would mean that that Portugese team that Man U bought Ronaldo from would have received £20m when RM bought him. That would make everything interesting.
Personally I’d like to see the windows scrapped altogether and go back to the old way of signing/loaning players as and when you like.
In my opinion all the transfer windows have achieved is to drive the price of players through the roof – particularly the Jan window.
I’ve never understood the last day of the window scenario either, why do clubs leave doing most of their business to the final day?!
I say go back to letting clubs buy and sell whenever they want.
ANDY kna m8 depends how nice the girl is to where i put the washer on,they dont get all in one go
Personally I’d just line up all football agents and have them all shot. Let players decide their own futures and let the game get on. Transfers would be done and dusted a lot quicker and there wouldn’t be such inflated prices or as much speculation over players.
NEWKIE i agree but footballers now adays do nowt for themselves,the clubs do everything for them they dont even know how to make a dental appointment ect ect,dont live in our world mate
Football Fancast has posted a list of 10 players still free agents. I supposed this question is irrelevant but Royston Drenthe is on that list.
At 25 he’s a left winger/full back. I dont know what he’d want for wages but he looked ok for Everton last season and would be worth a go I think?!
NEWKIE i once dealt with a agent for a young player in malta,you wouldnt dream what the twats are like,lost the kid a top club though bloody greed
SHARPY funny just read about him,moyes didnt know how quick to get him out of everton he upset the whole club one of the worst player hes ever dealt with,shame as i thought he might have been a canny,saw him play at sjp he ran rings round both f/b and was unlucky not to score imo
Ice-Exactly, they’re disconnected from the real world. Imo for their own good, and for the good of the game, they could at least do something for themselves, its not as if they don’t have time to negotiate. And there can’t be that many that are so thick they’d really be taken advantage of. It’s a good thing if it forces them to think like a real person for 5 mins
. I know its something a lot of multi millionaires may go through but I’d like to have my football separate from the rest of pop culture, considering its one of the only things I still like
And as far as ruining players careers…well you only need to look at AC to see what happened there, no doubt Andy had his own reasons but agents are poisonous bastards
Yeah…You know if Madrid think a player has an attitude problem then they’re an outright twat. Good player mind.
NEWKIE just give you a little of the storey,this kid was a top player but could not speak a word of english and was told to get a agent to get a club out of malta which he did and this creep got him to sign a 5yr contract,the kid got a behind closed doors game with the gunners and wenger wanted him,he had a another game at parma and they wanted him too he was only 17yrs old he waited 6mths and heard nothing,i spoke to his dad and told him to get in touch with clubs himself,he found out the agent had asked for £1mill to get the kid,which no club is going to pay for a kid,i have to this day a copy of this contract,even if he had sacked the agent,it stated in the contract that he was to pay him 35% of his wages,i got in touch with the toon and told them the tale,by time the kid was 18yrs toon were great and said they would have brought him over if only he was under 18,after that it must be done by a f.a.agent and a fee would be involed,this is just a little part of storey,the kid is heartbroken and stuck for 5yrs with this twat
Just scrap the windows I say,the only people enjoying it are Sky Sports who work themselves into a frenzy ,greedy agents and sadistic fans.The rest of us have to stew and sweat on losing our best players whilst knowing noone is likely coming in again.
Ice-fucking hell mate, that really is terrible
That’s part of it, players reckon they might get taken advantage of without an agent who knows the facts and figures, but its far more likely an agent is going to fuck them over anyway 
Guess most of the british born players just get lazy themselves, but its a shame to see talent just destroyed because a lad can’t speak english
Ice@37, That’s a shitty situation for the lad to end up in ,shamefull antics by that agent
Anybody having any luck with a link?
NEWKIE/KIM another thing is he really wanted to play for the toon,thats why he got me to get in touch ,i laughed when he told me he would be over the knot if he could earn £200 a wk
Link for the Ivory Coast v Senegal game:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MyAfricanFootball/featured?v=wgS5CIEJdtM
Weird, I keep trying that link and it doesn’t work. Page loads, stupid ad plays, then nothing. Maybe I need to restart my browser.
Link works for me, though it is laggy and I don’t know what the score is and how far through the game it is.
Who the hell scored that goal? The commentary is shite
It’s 1-0 to senegal, and must be coming up to half time if the match started at 6
Ice – that was my only thought about Drenthe like, coz I remember him playing some decent games for Everton aswell and a lethal left footed shot on him. Just wondered if having Krul and Anita at the club might keep him right but if not, a bad apple is the last thing we need.
Shame coz he’d be a canny player and he could be a useful player for us I’d think. Probably explains why such a talented player is still a free.
I think it’s unfair to tar all agents with the same brush to be fair but I agree that there are some shitbags out there looking to earn a ridiculous amount of money from kids who don’t know how the world of football works. There should be far stronger regulations in place for sports agents in general IMO
That link didn’t work in Safari for me but I switched to Firefox and it runs great now. Thanks!
Newkie
N’doye from copenhagen. Hate this link, too laggy to watch and I don’t know how far through the game it is.
I saw a comment from somebody on the side that said it was N’Doye’s goal, whoever that is. Come on Ivory Coast!
Andy, that link’s working great for me in Firefox. Maybe it’s because I’m in the states and there’s little to no interest here and so the server’s not taxed or something…
Is this Senegal v Ivory coast an ACON qualifier or a WC qualifier ,I’m confused
KIM ACON
FSOTC
Probably also down to me living in the middle of no where in Scotland.
Kalou scored, 1-1
1-1
Kim
1st leg ACN qualifier.
Ice@54 ,Shit and Senegal are winning
Noooooooooooooooooooooo not the Dembas.
1-1! Looks like Kalou scored. Is he Ivorian? I have no fooking idea, but the fellow looks like Kalou.
1.1 ffft
3 minutes added time in the 1st half…
FSOTC
. Thought it was almost over.
1st half? Oh
Oh, really? sorry, no idea–I thought it started at 1pm NY time.
Working alreet for me, using google chrome if that helps
Cheers andy, was bit of a screamer, but just average for Cisse
I think this announcer just said we’ll be back for the 2nd half and I don’t think Cisse scored, I think it was N’Doye, but I haven’t been able to see anything until just a moment ago. Can anybody clear up this madness for me?
Newkie
Aye cisse told him “well done, i’ve had a few tap-ins like that”.
It was N’doye
Got the link up just as we get into last few mins of 1st half
Kim
, can’t wait till I move out and get a decent signal 
you probably saw more than me
It’s ridiculous how much we have riding on this game like, I bet Pardew is sat watching the same shitty link bricking it too!!
sharpy
maybe he’s just tuned in after watching that german girl’s video 
he’s probably one of the guys commenting at the side.
it’s sooo laggy it seems like i’m watching the highlights of a game in which no major event took place
On topic;
There is nothing to prevent any club from determining their own transfer window.
I would like Nufc to make it clear that they will only consider transfers in and out of the club between 1 July and 14 July and between 2 January and 9 January.
This would rid us of procrastinated transfer deals ( Debuchy, Douglas etc).
and also allow for a few weeks pre season training with a settled squad.
A week in January would be sufficient to allow us to sell a player at a ridiculously inflated price and allow us to bring in any available player considered beneficial to the club.
2-1, Cisse scores! Shit!
Why is everyone worrying about the Ivory Vs Senegal game
amazing header from such distance! Wow.
Now there’s a Cisse goal…and people say Cisse is no good with the long ball…even Big Al would have beamed with that one.
Feck sakes
WTF
Great goal. Commentator sonds like hes about 14.
If Senegal goes through, we lose Double Demba for ACoN, right?
Dave-so we know who to expect to be pissing off for the Acon
FSOTC-Assuming they select both Cisse and Ba, yes.
dave
its an ANC qualifier. though as long as IC win in the next leg by a cople of goals we should be fine
And if CIV win, we lose the mighty Tiote.
Sidekick I think you’ll find that the club can’t do that, if a player wants out they can’t stop him just because it doesn’t suit our preferred time frame
Wooo Gervinho!
Yes! 2-2.
2.2
Newkie and Co sure it doesn’t matter who we lose to ACON sure we have plenty of cover
don’t we 
Then again… We looked really lost without big Cheick against Villa…
Sidekick-As well as what Dave says, its not quite that simple, a player may not even want to leave before a certain time, or a club may still be debating selling a player. As was the case with Cisse I think, you wouldn’t have bought him if the club only considered selling him after the 20th of Jan?
Only one year contracts should be allowed.
Everyone is a free agent at the end of the year so that they can negotiate a new deal with their existing club or another club.
Agents should only work on a fixed fee basis.
Players would be playing for new contracts all the time. Good riddance to the likes of Ranger and Xisco.
That ball done rang his bell.
Shit, CIV goal ruled offside.
Woo penalty
That looked like an almighty dive from Gervinho.
3-2?
Yep.
4-2. Going to town
4-2!
Zoinks, 5-2?
No, Drogba’s goal ruled out for hand ball! Papiss yellow carded.
4-2 final.
Right lads ,missed the second half as was eeing to lewis.Looks like it was a cracker ,what a scoreline in the end
Well, alls well in the end and Cisse is back scoring. Still we need to hope that Senegal don’t beat IC 3-0 in the second leg.
Cisse’s goal tonight – sensational!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEnr6vHdLM
Can’t believe Cisse goal!!
How far out was he there man?! …. Here’s hoping he’s got the taste for it again.
Genuinely I’m gutted for Ba and Cisse because playing for their country actually means something to them – but of course as a toon fans I’m delighted and relieved.
On the other hand, I’m pleased for Tiote but gutted as a toon fan – regardless of Anita, we will miss Tiote.
Sharpy im gutted that we are that weak that we have to hope that the Demba’s don’t get through and have a chance of doing their country proud and maybe coming back with an acon medal. as a Toon fan I would love to see our players play for their international team and win honors
Dave ,I agree it’s a crying shame we need to hope Senegal don’t qualify , Feel bad for the Dembas really.
By the way how good was Cisse goal OMG
To be fair, no matter who we brought in we’d miss those two. Equally I would love em to get a medal, but to be fair I think Tiote/the Ivory coast lot deserve it, was gutted for them last year even if it was brilliant to see Zambia win.
Every club in the world would be affected if they lost theirtop 2 strikers for a month.
newkie
zambia’s coach was brilliant, didnt stop at the standard 2 shirt buttons unbuttoned, went for 4/5, managed to not look like a bellend aswell. he then proceeded to carry one of the wiining players in his arms around the pitch
MDS
Well if Man U lost Rooney and VP they have welbeck and hernandez as backups and I cant even say who city’s best strikers are so they’d be fine. Other than them, yor right a club would be screwed.
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