Just our luck?

Cruel blow for Krul
With Danny Simpson, Ryan Taylor, James Perch and Fabricio Coloccini all succumbing to injury, you could maybe start to think we’d used up all of our bad luck when it comes to player injuries.

That has not been the case. Tim Krul, whilst on international duty for Holland, injured his elbow which now sees him facing a race against time to be declared fit for Monday nights fixture against Everton. The club itself has failed to disclose any information regarding the Dutchman’s injury but reports in Holland are suggesting that this injury could see Krul out for four weeks.

With making no defensive additions during the summer transfer window, the back wall of our team seems rather weak. Injuries happen throughout the season but it has been just our luck that we have suffered a number of injuries one after the other.

Steve Harper is on standby for the game at Goodison Park, having last played in the first leg of the Europa League match against Atromitos. Hopefully Tim Krul will be fit enough to take his place in between the sticks on Monday night after having a tremendous season for the Toon last season, but if he isn’t then at least we know Harper can fill in.

It is unfortunate for Alan Pardew’s side that there have been so many injuries for him to contend with. The international break should have allowed these injuries to be dealt with and allow the players to return to the side, but it hasn’t quite happened like that.



However this question does come to mind: Should we have avoided this defensive crisis by making additions to the squad? Or is it just unlucky for us to suffer this many injuries in one area if the pitch all at the same time?

Author’s note: I’m heading off to move to the North East in the next couple of days so I can start studying Sports Journalism at Sunderland University. So I won’t be on here for a while whilst I settle in but I have left Toonsy plenty of articles for you all to enjoy!

About ZoΓ« Vicarage

A lifelong Newcastle fan. Currently exiled in Sunderland studying Sports Journalism at the University of Sunderland Follow me on Twitter: @ZoeVicarage

124 thoughts on “Just our luck?

  1. I don’t get this bandwagon belief that Simmo is a better defender than Santon. If both Santon and Simmo were instructed to defend and not support the attack, I’d think you’d find Santon is a better defender.

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  2. I don’t get all this negativity about injuries and lack of summer signings. Its a big squad and a long season; most of our rivals are in the same boat and will suffer the same problems at different times.

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  3. Little Verne Troyer – Have you got that Jerry Marsden 45″ oot ya gob yet? A good shot by Toonsy to get it down your pit, knock you off ya stool and wedge it vertically between ya nashers. 😳
    Now pick ya sel off the floor, stand back on ya stool, jump as high as you can, and apologise to Toonsy unreservedly this time. πŸ˜†

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  4. If I’ve managed three (possibly four) comments in a row, either another thread has started or everyone’s pissed off in good time before the Ozzies wake up.

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  5. Troyer – One more thing. Don’t ever be tempted to appear from your hole wearing those ridiculous LFC pyjamas and undies. You’re a disgrace to the good name of our family.

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  6. I’m not as brave as Rodz, although I’m starting to feel as lonely as him. Nearly midnight. Its too risky. I’m definitely off. One more refresh only. If the ozzies are on, I’ll pretend I’m not here. 😯

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  7. Bigpapa, I was catching some zzzz’s when you replied.. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but to be frank all you are doing was whinging about things that haven’t happened yet.. So why don’t you save up all those whinges for when/if it does happen. Then you can whinge to your hearts content..

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  8. Saw on Eurosportnews that Van der Wiel signed for PSG. Isn’t he one of the defenders we were supposedly interested in – he was happy to stay in the Netherlands I remember reports saying. 6m Euros.

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  9. Vegas ,I’m starting to think that if we were interested in anyone last window other than Debuchy it was no one we knew about as I can’t believe we were so incompetent to lose out on so many. πŸ™„

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  10. [email protected] ,Not a bad formation that but I prefer Cabs further forward also would prefer Tiote in the Anita slot when fit.

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  11. Bris – I think there were ‘reports’ linking us with him at the time we were signing Anita from Ajax.
    We may well have enquired about him but I think he’s a player that believed his own hype. Chelsea were heavily linked with him aswell last season and I think he wanted Champions League football and big wages.
    I’m sure Kim is right. Debuchy was the main RB wanted by Pardew and as such any other player was little more than an enquiry.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if we go back in for Debuchy in Jan, maybe even Pieters aswell if he proves his fitness.

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  12. Seem to remember under Roeder we had a number of senior players out and we had to rely on back up players and the team went on a very good run which ended when the senior players returned. We should encourage reserve team players and increase the competition for first team slots.

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  13. Pardew
    β€œI felt at the start of the year, when we looked at the centre-half situation, that bringing someone in would stand in the way of two players with great futures at the club – James Tavernier and Remi Streete.

    β€œWe won’t be calling on those guys just yet but we will somewhere down the line.

    β€œIf they want to make their move, this is the year to do it.”

    http://tinyurl.com/8exj87y

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  14. @3hours
    Unfortunately that statement would have more credibility if he hadn’t earlier said he wanted a centre back and confirmed he was in the market for Debuchy.
    I’m not too disheartened. Has Vidic got a replacement of the same quality? Has Kompany? Has Vermaalen? The Coloccini injury would have hurt us even if we had brought in a defender as that defender would most likely have been Saylor’s back up so nowhere near Colo’s level anyway.

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  15. I would sell Tiote if a 25M + offer came in.
    He’s a class act, but he’s made of glass. He missed a third of last season and will most likely miss a similar amount of games this season.
    I mean my ideal would be selling him and using it to fund Douglas/Debuchy – say 15M for the two at the most. Anita into midfield. 10M on a right winger/pacy forward.

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  16. Solano @91 , I can’t argue with that logic it makes sense ,but it would have to be that much money to even consider it .Tiote is immense for us he really is, but as you say looks very injury prone and gets a fair share of cards too. It’s a shame really as he seems one of the players who really want to stay in Toon,he likes Newcastle and isn’t keen on London apparently. I also really like him and it’s a shame we’d even have to think of letting him go in order to bring a couple in . πŸ™

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  17. [email protected], My thoughts exactly ,smacks of damage limitation.

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  18. Afternoon all. Just got back from a reccy in Belgium and been pishing my bags catching up with the blog. This bit in particular really tickled my fancy!

    Troy Stavers
    September 12, 2012 at 20:45
    I can think of one poisonous character on the whole blog and thats Toon Chicken.

    πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    I had no idea I meant so much to the sad old git! πŸ˜†

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  19. Big Dave –

    Cringeworthy all this talk about how buying a CB would of hindered the development of Tavernier and Streete.
    Whats the development squad for?
    With all due respect, neither should play CB in the Prem this season. Start them off at at FB or in the Cups against weaker teams.

    How will our team look on Monday?

    If Anita’s FB is Bigi going to start at 18 away to Everton?

    I could guess it will be,

    Harp
    Anita Tayl Willo Santon
    Benny Cabaye Bigi Jonas
    2 Dembas

    When it should be, 433. Last year when Cisse was taking every chance we could start 442 and be solid, this year we need to take more control in matches and 442 restricts that.

    I’d play Ba or Cisse on the wing and tell them to get used to it. Apparently Cisse’s head’s dropped so shove him out there.

    Seemed to score for Senegal but has so far looked like shockingly bad for us.

    Is that as we haven’t created chances for him or he wasn’t trying as much as for his country?

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  20. Why on earth doesnt Ba play for Senegal? He has looked a lot better than Cisse so far this season.

    I would like Marv or even Oba to start cos Benny aside our midfield has poor in the opening games playing 442.

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  21. [email protected], I still think it’s the Ramadan thing causing the slow start to our Dembas,least I bloody hope so. Cisse hasn’t become a bad striker overnight and I think that amazing goal for Senegal will boost his confidence no end ,I predict he’ll be much better from now on. My concern is the other end tbh ,we are gonna need maximum concentration for the full 90 plus to not let any in V Everton.

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  22. KIM >
    I agree our defence is gonna be suspect, have Taylor&Willo ever played together and played well?

    Who in midfield? if there is no Tiote we are a poor team when we play 442.

    The Demba’s are a concern, playing together up front does not seem to work for them, Chelsea away but apart from that they look like they dont enjoy playing with each other

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  23. All our better games when they both started were 433.

    Look at how Arsenal play Podolski on the wing. Why can we not play Ba there and keep him happy?

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  24. Kim next we’ll hear that we didn’t replace Best or Lovens because it would hinder Campbells chances πŸ˜†

    Big Papa a lot of fan’s will buy that crap, imo the younguns with potential should be loaned out to give them vital experience of regular 1st team footie, rather than become experienced bench warmers because that won’t do them much good. πŸ˜•

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  25. Wouldn’t you like to see our better your players lining up a Toonsy shirt BD. Who knows they could do really well… not buying Pardz moments tho, don’t get me wrong..

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  26. Sorry, feckin virtual keyboard… meant to say – better young players lining up in a Toon shirt BD.

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  27. ‘Pardz comments’… fuck I’m on a roll.. must proof read comments πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

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  28. Aussie ,Wake up man πŸ˜†

    Bigpapa > It’s easy to address the LW slot ,just tell Ba to get out there and play ,after all he did it for West Ham without a big song and dance from what I remember .

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  29. Glad to see Pards talking up the youngsters. I don’t care if it’s by design or out of necessity, I’d like to see some of them get a shot. Don’t get me wrong, this Board has a uncovered some gems and has a better track than most in terms of buying, but you need to have both to be a top club IMO

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  30. I agree with Pardew that the likes of Tav and Streete should be given the opportunity to develop and prove their worth. But I also agree with those who question the timing of these comments, bearing in mind Pardew was talking about wanting a new CB in back in Jan.
    I do think we have some decent looking defenders coming through the ranks who should be given the chance. When you look at the likes of Boro who have develop some very decent looking players, and we should do the same.

    What I don’t understand though is, if he doesn’t see Tav and Streete being ready just yet, why not loan a player in with an option to buy?. Douglas or Yanga for example could have been loaned in with us paying their wages. If Streete comes on well, or they don’t take to the EPL then send them back – nowt lost.
    Or buy Yanga as he sees us as a stepping stone to Milan. Write a Β£15-20m release clause in his contract – sell him to Milan next season or season after for a profit and then Streete should be a ready made replacement.

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  31. Bigpapa @ 102 Yeah it’s about as engaging as Big Daves’s and Troys posts, and Little Troy. As engaging as a stuck record, if you’re old enough to remember such things.

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  32. Pards does seem to be contradicting himself a bit, although it’s hard to tell as the article claims things which he hasn’t said directly, at least not in that interview, so I’m not really sure what to make of it.

    Meh, managers to it all the time, if it can bring the best out of our players, I don’t really mind if he lies much, providing its just one of those little encouraging white lies πŸ˜‰

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  33. Tav spent time on loan last seaon with a few clubs and I got the impression Pards felt he was ready to go into the first team squad so Im not surpirsed he is in the first team squad. Streete is a strange one. I would never even of thought of him been in an around the 1st team squad. I think Pardew is trying to back them publically to give them a confidence boost. He has no other options but to put his faith in the young players now. He could hardly come out and say they arent good enough. But it does make Pards look a little silly

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  34. JT-Agreed, I would have like to see Tav go to a CC club for a few months because I genuinely think he’s a player who has benefited greatly from being loaned out whilst others like Vuckic have maybe stalled. But it seems injuries may have forced our hand, plus I am happy for him to play a part in Euros and cup matches so not too much of a problem. Streete did surprise me though..

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  35. http://www.teamtalk.com/match/261588/lineups
    Everton seem to have the opposite problem to us. Severely lacking in the CM department. Gibson is out for a few weeks which is terrific news. Probably means they are going to have to push Fellaini back which weakens them up front. Not sure how good Naismith is.
    We could really dominate the centre this game. Time for Cabaye to step up and show that tenacity and creativity that makes him a worldie potential.

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  36. @Newkie I’d like to see Fergie & Sameobi in the fizzy as well in an ideal world.
    I still truly believe that our year in the Championship made Carroll as a player. He was gash for the first half of the season as well. Only came good after January.
    If you can take the physicality of the Championship then the Prem is a soft breeze.

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  37. Solano-Agreed, Vuckic last season should have got way more than that one month to Cardiff as well, although he was unlucky with his various injuries and then the fact he had to be called back because of our own injuries I suppose. He at least is within a chance of starting, Sammeobi and Fergie could be of use as impact subs but that’s about it…Always a problem deciding if and when to loan out, but its one thing we’ve never been very good at IMO.

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  38. @Newkie
    His record for Everton is impressive though. He played 30 league games in a row (14 for Everton, 16 for Man Utd) without losing. Even this first loss for him against WBA doesn’t really count as it was 0-0 when he got injured.
    Just one less superstition to deal with anyway πŸ˜‰

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  39. The other thing is that Pardew now has to be seen using Tav and Streete this season. If he keeps putting Perch at CB and RB or Anita at RB – then he’s talking poop!. Also, are these comments covering up an unsuccessful summer window, or an early indication that he’s expecting little or nothing to happen in Jan again.

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  40. ST-I take that as he’s usually only played when his side is confident of a win, and therefore allow him to play and rest a better player. Certainly the case at manure πŸ˜›

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  41. Aussie i’m not really sure what you were saying mate so you would need to explain it better πŸ˜†
    Unlike your countryman Brisvegas as his personal insults are quite clear and show how engaging and clever he really is 😳

    B+B @ 113 he did say something interesting onetime I think πŸ˜• about Library archives or something, but im not sure if your old enough to remember πŸ˜€

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