Who are ya? – C.S. Maritimo

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United begin their journey into the Europa League group stage on Thursday evening in a clash which epitomises the secondary nature of UEFA’s ancillary competition.

Nevertheless, Newcastle’s players and fans alike will enter the competition proper with fervour and excitement at what should be a refreshing experience, having seen an absence of European football (barring last month’s qualifier) for 2017 days.

When you put it like that, it makes you realise how much we’ve missed out on during the barren years under BSA, JFK and the likes. With that in mind, here is one Newcastle fan at least who hopes for a committed performance in this competition, regardless of the personnel charged with the task.

Thursdays encounter will see the Magpies travel to the Island of Madeira to take on C.S Maritimo of the Liga ZON Sagres (Portuguese Premier League), in what is likely to be an awkward tie for all involved. Maritimo’s ground is situated in the capital city of Madeira, which is Funchal, with a capacity of just under 9,000, and has hosted a number of ties against British opposition during its eight seasons in European competition.

Maritimo finished fifth in the Primeira Liga last season behind Portugal’s big three and United’s pre-season opponents Braga, and currently stand 5th in the league this time out after picking up five points from their three league games – including a notable home draw against Sporting Lisbon.

Maritimo’s first encounter against British opposition was in the first round of the UEFA cup back in the 1998-99 season against Leeds United. They lost the first leg 1-0 thanks to a 20 yard freekick from Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink late in the game; however the European minnows fought back in the second leg on their home turf to earn a penalty shootout. Leeds went through in the end, but not without a huge scare.

These two sides met again in the same competition in the 01/02 season, this time starting with the game in Portugal. Leeds put out a particularly strong team that day, a team that had fought their way to the semi-finals of the Champions League less than six months previous. Once again however, Maritimo triumphed by a single goal, only to lose the second leg 3-0.

Looking at their European record makes for impressive reading, having won eight of their thirteen home ties to date, with only three defeats, two of which came against teams of considerable European pedigree – Juventus and Valencia. As is often the case however, their away form in Europe is less impressive, having picked up three wins whilst suffering seven defeats.

History suggests that Newcastle could be in for a tough encounter on Thursday, and will need to have their wits about them if they are to pick up anything from the game. In terms of progression from the group, defeat would not be a total disaster; however given the absence from this competition of more than five years, collecting a point at least would signal intent to the United faithful that we are taking this competition seriously.

With a modest squad in terms of numbers and some big games to compete in domestically, prioritisation can be understood and accepted. However, many fans see this competition as a reward for last season’s performance, and would like to see the hard work and success justified by paying the respect that our successes last year deserve.

Thanks for reading.

Written by Martin Gibson

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52 thoughts on “Who are ya? – C.S. Maritimo

  1. (THIS IS A GOVERNMENT HEALTH WARNING. THIS POSTER IS LIABLE TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW. ONLY ENGAGE IF YOU AREN’T SENSITIVE AND  DON’T TAKE HISSY FITS)

    I hope Pards picks his strongest side and if we are comfortably winning bring the rookies on for experience.

    It’s too risky to try it the other way round.

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  2. This is the confirmed squad according to Caulkin of the Times:

    Abeid, Amalfitano, Sameobi, Strolla, Anita, Bigi, Cisse,Elliot, Ferguson, Gosling, Harper, marveaux, Obertan, Perch, Santon, Tavernier, Saylor, Vuckic, Williamson

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  3. Think it might be something like this:

    Harper
    Tavernier, Williamson or Taylor, Perch, Santon
    Obertan, Bigi, Anita, Marveaux
    Strolla, Cisse

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  4. From the official site:
    Newcastle United squad in full
    Mehdi Abeid, Romain Amalfitano, Sammy Ameobi, Shola Ameobi, Vurnon Anita, Gael Bigirimana, Adam Campbell, Rob Elliot, Shane Ferguson, Dan Gosling, Steve Harper, Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel Obertan, James Perch, Davide Santon, James Tavernier, Steven Taylor, Haris Vuckic, Mike Williamson

    Looks like Campbell is in as Cisse is ill

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  5. Assuming Ba was left as he’s starting at the weekend. Makes sense to play Cisse instead. However with Cisse ill surely we should be taking Ba! Not sure about just taking Shola, even if he is our second highest European scorer.

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  6. Thurs is going to be a hard match and the young guns will do well to get a result out of the game. I think we will see Shola play up front by himself with Obertan and Marv supporting him from the wings. With Anita Bigi and gosling in the midfield

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  7. I know nothing at all of our opponents on Thursday night. But heres who I’d go with:

    ————-Harper———–
    Tav–Saylor–Willo–Fergie
    ————-Bigi————-
    —-Obertan/Abied/Marv—-
    ——–Vukic/Campbell—–

    I think we are light at LB so would like to see if Fergie could do a job there. I also want to see more of Bigi, coz I do think he’s gonna be a big player for us. However, I may start with Santon at LB and Perch DCM, that’s a stronger line up and then if we are doing well, switch to Fergie and Bigi. I really would like to see a frontline of Vukic and Campbell tho – a young and exciting partnership.

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  8. In regards to Ba not travelling I think it shows he is going to start against Norwich on Sunday. Pardew has said he will prioritize the league over the Europa League. I would guess Cisse will be over his illness for weekend as well.

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  9. i like sharpys team with fregy back ,sammy also back but does anyone feel tav playes better on the left?when he came on last time his passing and movement was good .strange as he is a rb by trade i feel pards cant make his mind up where to put him. marve will come good i feel i would of loved young cambell to be in squad.even for experience.scored again last nite

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  10. great, hope we introduce the lad gradually its great how most fans are behind our youth but it bugs me how the small minority slag young players after a game,dont they realise we are trying to develope our young tallent? really anoys me!short sighted dimwits!……get behind all our players …good times and bad times

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  11. Regarding Ba – I’d find it difficult to believe that Pardew hasnt had a sit down with Ba and explain how important to us he is. He will be rested in some games because Pardew also needs to see how other line ups and formations work – but against Everton, it didn’t make sense to me as Ba and Benny are our in form players at the mo.
    Regarding Ba playing left of the front 3, I really don’t see his problem?!. He was getting into goal scoring opportunities last season, he just didn’t put them away. As important as Ba is for us, he has to accept that he isn’t bigger than NUFC or lay down demands that compromise the overall team performance.

    It seems a fairly easy situation to resolve with a bit of give from both sides.

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  12. I agree stevo. Its one thing for people to say that so and so had a shocker but I shake my head when people say someone isn’t good enough and will never make it based on one match

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  13. @Sharpy. Agree completely.
    I think it’s been blown out of proportion a bit though. If he wanted to leave he would’ve fought for a move in the summer.
    It still frustrates me that we haven’t managed to accommodate our danger three effectively. “Would have been like a new signing” 😉

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  14. Stevo – I thought about Tav at LB instead of Fergie but went with him RB coz I think with the young players coming thro, Pardew shouldn’t mess them around too much. He’s broke into the first team as a RB and should be developed there first before being moved around (IMO).

    Does anyone know the crack with Simmo, Tiote or Colo?, are they likely to be back at the weekend?

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  15. As strange as this may sound to some, I’m not even sure we should be risking Shola…If we’re going to play him we may as well just take and play Ba instead. Shola can play with both of our strikers and is equally more likely to get knackered/injured. We need him for the weekend!

    😛

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  16. ST – I think the formation at the back end of last season fit best to be honest. Ba had plenty of opportunity to score, Cisse obviously did and Benny seemed to really enjoy his football. Further to that tho, our midfield of Cabaye Tiote and Jonas seemed to have a good understand as well. If it’s not broke, don’t try to fix it!, Ba would have found goals again in that formation, but more importantly, Newcastle played well and won games – some very convincingly.

    Newkie – I’d love Pardew to trust the young uns and go with Vukic and Campbell. I’ve always like the combo of height and strength alongside the shorter, pacey goal scorer. I think we could have a partnership in the making with young Campbell and Vukic and then Shola could come on for the last 30mins or so – or even young Sammy.

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  17. Pardz has stated that the PL is his main priority this season so it is no surprise that most of the first teamers will be rested for the weekend. Still hope we win against FC Meccano, we best play well as they have the building blocks of a good team 🙂

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  18. Sharpy good call it’s the same with young Fergie, people want us to play him as a LB when he’s actually a pretty good MFer, and I think it’s unfair to expect a young inexperienced player to play in a position that isn’t their natural position, because if they play there and given the chance they will but if they have a shocker they are then judged on that with no real allowance for being out of position.

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  19. Dave – I’m pleased you scrolled past my posting with my line up then buddy. I have Fergie at LB 😳 😆
    But that’s because I think Fergie would make a pretty useful wing back to be honest. Plus, what I kinda meant with Tav was playing him on the left if he’s naturally right footed.
    I think Fergie could be similar to Santon at LB. Good on the overlap and deliver a good ball into the box. I think he’d be worth a look there anyway.

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  20. Sharpy-Aye I’d agree with that. Up front is one of the easier places to bed in the younguns anyway so I would like to see those two get a start.

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  21. Sharpy-Also agree with that. Santon is already basically a wing back, it would be nice to see how Fergie could do it. Considering we seem intent on playing 2 DMs and having Cabaye and Benny essentially as attacking mids, with two up front we need the width from good attacking full backs.

    And then we’ll look exactly like Brazil in their 4-2-2-2 😛

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  22. sharpy mds and the rest of u lads n lasses have no negetivety like other blog sites …just hope some trouble makes dont spoil the blog……..cant wait for game tomorow on espn……….got a few beers ready to cheer lads on in europe !!!positive thoughts all!!! we will win!….no neg vibes!!!! pards is all for law of atraction and it works!!!!!!!

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  23. stevo watched there game on sunday against sporting lisbon they should of beat them easely ,and sporting are no mugs just ask man city 😉

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  24. I’m a big fergie supporter. Always been impressed with the lad. Especially his energy which shows he has the right attitude and wants to help the club. Shame he can’t stay healthy as I think he’d have really contributed by now

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  25. Batty/KK, you had us down for a loss nearly ever game last season as well ya negative fuka 🙂 🙂 🙂 I think you had ‘ a bad feeling’ before most games 🙂

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    Stevo

    Surely you aren’t positive all the time?

    If we were playing Man Utd away and someone came on and said we will get beat, would you question the person saying it?

    Is it not normal to feel unsure about winning bearing in mind we have not been particularly impressive this season.

    We aren’t putting out a particularly strong squad/team and we are playing away at a small ground which probably has an awful pitch.

    I am not so confident and I feel it matters not a h’peth what I think. It won’t affect the result. That’s down to the players in the dressing room and Pardew.

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  27. Dave Fergie has rarely managed a series od decent crosses or threatened goal when he has played as a winger. Why is it suddenly his natural position? He is a better full back. Reliable tackler who bursts forward when needed.

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    Despite Bumbling Boris texting me furiously, he won’t come on the blog to deal with his humongous gaffs. His latest is that he can’t be bothered to trawl the blog to find his quote that he says is there.

    Last I saw was him, Shaggy and Scooby back out in the mystery machine looking for it. 😛 😛

    Come on Bumbler find the mystery quote that you say you wrote.

    I’ve copied all your posts from that discussion and I haven’t got it.

    Maybe it’s the butler in the haunted house who’s stole it. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😛 😛

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  29. Thanks for the update Troy, we were all sitting on the edge of our chairs in anticipation of the news……….

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    @Aussie

    To be fair, that was funny…..
    😆

    But I can’t help howling at Bumbling Boris. He’s backed in a corner and won’t explain himself in case he loses face. 😆

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  31. I’d like to see Ferguson, Obertan, and Sammeobi get starts. All three have pace and trickery to try to provide the bit of magic for a goal since HBA, Cabaye, and the Demba’s are out.

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  32. Is it true that your young fell is running out with the team this weekend mate? Great stuff it it is, I’d be proud as punch if it was one of my ratbags 🙂

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    @aussie

    Aye. He gets to go in the dressing room to meet the players before the game. Gets a full toon home strip. Walks out with one of the players onto the pitch at the start and a kick around.
    I stand in the tunnel feeling the arses as they run out. 😯

    It’s then up to the directors box and sitting near my pals Dekka and Big Mick.

    He gets his photo in the programme as well.

    Oh and we all get a free meal but have to pay for our drinks.

    Cannot wait! Toon! Toon!

    I’m thinking of holding Cabayes hand as he’s walking out the tunnel whilst young chip stavers holds the other.

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  34. Shamrock @ 35 I have watched him as a MF for Norn Iron and I know a couple of players that rate him highly as a MF but sure that doesn’t matter 😀 as for his natural position I guess if he has played there from school boys up to now and still prefers that position what that not mean that that is his natural position 😯 but don’t let that get in the way 😆

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  35. Nice…….On the feed we get here in Oz, they normally show the teams lining up in the tunnel waiting to come out.. so I will keep an eye out for you, I will look for a guy with a disproportionaly large head (that’s how I imagine you, sorry) 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    @Aussie

    will look for a guy with a disproportionaly large head (that’s how I imagine you, sorry 😆 😆

    I have to use both hands to hold my heed up like otherwise I topple over and it takes 6 people to get me back up.

    It’s a bit like a challenge in the TV programme the Cube. 😆 😆 😆

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