The quest for silverware starts here!

Welcome one and all to a very special ‘Game On’ article which this evening will see us back in European action (properly at least) for the first time in five years.

Our opponents are S.C. Maritimo of Portugal and this will be the first time we’ll have played competitively at their ground.

A whole host of changes are expected for the game this evening as the squad is already weakened by injury to the likes of Fabricio Coloccini, Danny Simpson, Tim Krul and Cheik Tiote. Add to that the fact that senior stars such as Yohan Cabaye, Papiss Cisse, Demba Ba and Hatem Ben Arfa, albeit the latter courtesy of suspension, have all been left at home with an eye on the upcoming Sunday afternoon Premier League clash with Norwich.

This game gives us a chance to concentrate on some football rather than the whole Demba Ba situation that appears to be blowing around at the moment. Call me cynical, but it’s funny how all of these things come up when contract negotiations are apparently ongoing between the two parties.

Anyway, moving back to the football, team news, as always, will be featured below as and when it becomes available. It will be interesting to see just what team we manage to put out and whether that team can be competitive against a side who finished fifth in the Portuguese Premier League last season.

The game is actually being broadcast live on ESPN this evening and kick-off is at the early time of 6pm. This is of course great of you have ESPN, but if you don’t and are limited to watching it on the web then please feel free to post a link to any streams you may find in the ‘comments’ section below.

Howay the lads!

S.C. Maritimo: Salin, Briguel, Guilherme, Roberge, Olim, Miranda, Luiz, Heldon, Simao, Sami, Dias

Subs: Lima, Diogo, Rosario, Rossi, Abreu, Fidelis, Adilson

Newcastle: Rob Elliot, James Perch, Steven Taylor, Mike Williamson, Davide Santon, Gabriel Obertan, Gael Bigirimana, Dan Gosling, Haris Vuckic, Romain Amalfitano, Shola Ameobi

Subs: Steve Harper, James Tavernier, Shane Ferguson, Mehdi Abeid, Sylvain Marveaux, Sammy Ameobi, Adam Campbell

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280 Comments

  1. 1
    toonsy says:

    Both teams line up with a 4-2-3-1 formation according to the official website.

    Anita is on his way home as his Mrs is due to drop.

  2. 2
    icedog says:

    well just have to hope they go well good luck to the first timers,dont rate elliot like :|

  3. 3
    Moreno says:

    Shola’s playing = 3 points in the bag ;-)

  4. 4
    DJG says:

    I’m looking forward to actually seeing Amalfitano play a bit as he seems to be a canny player. Don’t know whats happening with Marvaux :???: He looked alright last season . :sad:

  5. 5
    andymag says:

    links? :???: :?:

  6. 6
    KIMTOON says:

    Elliot in goal then :???:

  7. 7
    andymag says:

    My dad was about to sign up for ESPN earlier so we could watch the match, then he saw it was £10/pm and said “f-ck that” :sad: .
    So I’ll be relying on some link to watch the game tonight.

  8. 8
    Instructatoon says:

    Ne1 got links

  9. 9
    toonsy says:

    Andy – It’s free for three months. Tell him that ;)

  10. 10
    Munich Mag says:

    DJG@4… I was at Landsberg for the Monaco game at the start of the season, and Marv seems REALLY aloof, didn’t mix as such with the rest of the troops, and had no time for the fans asking for autographs and such. Sorry like, but that’s how I saw him. The bloke needs to get performing and he’ll end up with a smile on his face. HE could have an issue with Pardew, that’s for sure, not being in the team…. we also don’t know what all the frenchies are whingeing on about when they get together for Le Big Mac after the game… ;-)

  11. 11
    KIMTOON says:

    Andy , it’s on firstrowsportal.com you will have to navigate to correct page .

  12. 12
    Moreno says:

    Link…

    http://tykestv.eu/tykes2.php

    Always use this site, generally great quality and nae bother with the stream..

    Jinxed it now ain’t I?

  13. 13
  14. 14
    Big Dave says:

    Kim @ 11 what type of links that :lol: I just hope we do ourselves proud and the players put a shift in.

  15. 15
    andymag says:

    Toonsy
    Is it? Thought that expired a while back :???: , couldn’t see it on the main page.

  16. 16
    Big Dave says:

    Anita’s Lass could have waited like :roll: no consideration at all :grin:

  17. 17
    Dubtoon says:

    The hand painting NUFC over the tunnel beside the maritimo crest :lol:

  18. 18
    Newkie says:

    Moreno@3

    Bang on ;-)

  19. 19
    Big Dave says:

    Strolla looks as if he’s been eating less pies lately hopefully he’ll last a bit longer

  20. 20
    Dubtoon says:

    Didn’t know sammy’s name had an I in it now either :shock:

  21. 21
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    gonna get eff all from the ref, as per usual in european games
    gotta be careful early on

  22. 22
    Dubtoon says:

    That pitch might explain their great home record. No one else can play on it :|

  23. 23
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    bad atart that ffs

  24. 24
    MDS says:

    So if we lose, can we blame Anita’s?

    HWTL!!!

  25. 25
    MDS says:

    Anita’s lass^^^

  26. 26
    toonsy says:

    MDS – Yes. She should have kept her legs closed.

    Whore :lol:

  27. 27
    Munich Mag says:

    Obertan’s total nonchalance doesn’t exactly help him much does it… get mucked in man…

  28. 28
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    nice one shola. :razz:

  29. 29
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    ffs gotta stop sammi getting his crosses in :evil:

  30. 30
    Munich Mag says:

    Ouch…second time we’ve had a dangerous ball in from our right…keep it tight…

  31. 31
    Munich Mag says:

    Anyone know how many toon fans are at the game ?

  32. 32
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    feck me that was shyte by amalfitano

  33. 33
    Whumpie says:

    Can’t get a decent stream – one’s pixelated and the other jerky. Anyone got a third option?

  34. 34
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    great save Elliott

  35. 35
    Munich Mag says:

    Great save Elliot !

  36. 36
    DJG says:

    Good save from Elliot there Ice. ;-)

  37. 37
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    why are we so shit at defending corners and set pieces ffs
    every effing time

  38. 38
    Big Dave says:

    Elliot done well there, we need to sort our defending out

  39. 39
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    willo got lucky there.
    crap defending that

  40. 40
    Munich Mag says:

    Whumpie, give this one a shot mate….excellent so far…

    http://www.coolsport.tv/stream3.html

    Only problem is Chris Waddle is the commentator :sad:

  41. 41
    Big Dave says:

    well done Tayls

  42. 42
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    another good save by elliott too

  43. 43
    toonsy says:

    MM – Think it’s about 250, which is about right. Their ground has a restriction of 5,000 and 5% is all UEFA say they have to give.

  44. 44
    Munich Mag says:

    2 good saves so far from Elliot. We could have been 3-0 down already… :cry:

  45. 45
    M says:

    Shola’s looking particularly clumsy tonight

  46. 46
    Munich Mag says:

    Cheers Toonsy… ;-)

  47. 47
    icedog says:

    DJG one swallow doesnt make a summer old lad :razz:

  48. 48
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    cheese is wept :evil:

  49. 49
    Whumpie says:

    I just get some stupid ad with no way to close it… :roll:

  50. 50
    Munich Mag says:

    I hate the fact that we tend to get battered by EVERYBODY… :evil:

  51. 51
    Whumpie says:

    Aha – got it now. Ta Munich..

  52. 52
    Sharpy17 says:

    Nee pissin ESPN in Alnmouth!!!! :cry: Gutted.

    Canny enough line up but regular updates would be gratefully received

  53. 53
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    lovely pull down from shola

  54. 54
    Munich Mag says:

    What’s up, has the ref forgotten his yellow cards or what ?

  55. 55
    Big Dave says:

    Why do we always look like a team of total strangers that don’t know how to pass a ball to each other :???:

  56. 56
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    mm he’s saving them for wor lads ;-)

  57. 57
    Munich Mag says:

    M … I think Shola has started well alone up front :shock:

    They just keep fouling the lad… the ref is gash by the way… :evil:

  58. 58
    OHurley says:

    hey hey lads. how’s the game looking

  59. 59
    Munich Mag says:

    Beradsley…not a truer word spoken mate…just watch ;-)

  60. 60
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    chugging reverting to hoof ball again.
    Just need to pass and move and keep the ball for a bit

  61. 61
    DJG says:

    Can hear Elliot’s commands. He’s very vocal.

  62. 62
    Big Dave says:

    Oba nearly made a tackle there :shock:

  63. 63
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    getting destroyed with their skills. :evil:

  64. 64
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    nice elbow from Taylor there
    got away with it that time

  65. 65
    andymag says:

    bigi has made some important tackles, ball control and passing has been shite. anyone know if toto is fit for Sunday’s match?

  66. 66
    toonsy says:

    That should have been a goal. Either Willo or Shola

  67. 67
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    how the hell did we miss all that
    wt

  68. 68
    Dubtoon says:

    Put your boot through it shola :twisted:

  69. 69
    Dubtoon says:

    :shock: great shot gosling

  70. 70
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    post

  71. 71
    KIMTOON says:

    Ah close there Gosling nice try. :grin:

  72. 72
    Big Dave says:

    oh Gos that was close

  73. 73
    andymag says:

    how either of them didnt score that is beyond me :???:

  74. 74
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    not a bad effort from Obi that

  75. 75
    toonsy says:

    Good attempt by Obertan there, and Vuckic was it who hit the post?

  76. 76
    KIMTOON says:

    Dave @14 :lol: Well you know me ,always dependable like. ;-)

  77. 77
    andymag says:

    bollox i missed it, link froze :x

  78. 78
    toonsy says:

    Sorry, Gosling it was who hit the post. Shola could have squared that ball, but at least he got his shot on target :lol:

  79. 79
    KIMTOON says:

    Nice to see Elliot having a good game as wasn’t too impressed previously ,but fair play he’s kept us in it.

  80. 80
    Munich Mag says:

    Canny first half so far….we’ve picked up a lot after the first 15 mins…

  81. 81
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    cant give them so much time on the ball

  82. 82
    Munich Mag says:

    Perch aint no right back, that’s for sure. Canny defensive mid, but he’s too shaky at right back..

  83. 83
    KIMTOON says:

    Also ,I see we got the usual euro footie ref :roll:

  84. 84
    Big Dave says:

    MM @ 80 yeah the 1st 15-20 mins we were sleeping again but we seem to have got into gear now, but they are still capable of breaking and giving us probs

  85. 85
    Munich Mag says:

    Where are Punch and Judy tonight ?

  86. 86
    Munich Mag says:

    Aye Big D….the Toon fans seem to have woken up too… :lol:

  87. 87
    KIMTOON says:

    I can hear the 200 or so Toon fans singing :razz: :cool:

  88. 88
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    feck me shola that was awful :evil:

  89. 89
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    so handball in the box.
    Not given :twisted:

  90. 90
    KIMTOON says:

    MM@86, SNAP ;-)

  91. 91
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    looking good Elliott :lol:

  92. 92
    Munich Mag says:

    Kimtoon@90…great minds think alike … ;-)

  93. 93
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    ok nearly HT dont concede now

  94. 94
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    now that was a nice build up

  95. 95
    Munich Mag says:

    To be honest, and at the end of the day, Pardew’s policy of playing a weakened second string in europe hasn’t backfired on him….. yet…. and the bairns and fringe players are getting a regular work out.

  96. 96
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    :oops: :oops:

  97. 97
    KIMTOON says:

    mm> Very true :lol:

  98. 98
    Big Dave says:

    Yeah theres nowt like the sound of Toon fans mixed with the carnival sound of the drums that you get from euro footie

  99. 99
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    what the hell.
    Did you see how fast that yellow card came out.
    ferkin joke

  100. 100
    KIMTOON says:

    Reffing hell ref :evil:

  101. 101
    toonsy says:

    The ref was a joke then like

  102. 102
    Big Dave says:

    Carver was looking a bit fuked off there :lol:

  103. 103
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    booked for making a clean tackle

  104. 104
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    yes. refs lost the plot :cool:

  105. 105
    KIMTOON says:

    Comical defending there ,mixed with olympic diving :roll:

  106. 106
    Big Dave says:

    what did Elliot think he was doing picking that up :shock:

  107. 107
    toonsy says:

    The referee deserves all the shit he is getting. He’s been woeful fro both sides

  108. 108
    Munich Mag says:

    Quick get 10 bob on Johnny Carver hoying the heed on the Maritimo trainer…. :lol: :lol:

  109. 109
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    More beer :razz:

  110. 110
    OHurley says:

    MM-

    HAhA! I’d pay 10 bob to see that happen

  111. 111
    KIMTOON says:

    KILL THR REF :evil:

  112. 112
    OHurley says:

    HT yet?

  113. 113
    Big Dave says:

    Pards and Carver :lol:

  114. 114
    KIMTOON says:

    THE * even :roll:

  115. 115
    Axel says:

    Pardew is going to chin their manager before the nite is oot :evil:

  116. 116
    OHurley says:

    Dave, what’s shakin mate? Wish I had a stream for the game.

  117. 117
    Munich Mag says:

    Divvent mess with us west end boys…..get mucked in big John. Ya beauty…Pardew and Carver sitting next to each other in Row D…. :lol: :lol:

  118. 118
    Big Dave says:

    Kim @ 111 fuk thats a bit rough :lol:

    Oh yeah mate it is now ;-)

    I think we can steal this game would love to see young Campbell get a decent run out I fancy him to score ;-)

  119. 119
  120. 120
    Axel says:

    BIG DAVE what was Elliot thinking making all those class save’s , did someone tell him he was a class keeper :?: :grin:

  121. 121
    Munich Mag says:

    Axel…oooh it’s a barney….

    There’s gonna be some fun and games on the side lines second half. To be honest it’s down to some gash reffing and the Portugese bench thinking they are all freakin Mourinho giving it large at every opportunity. Villa Boas is of the same ilk…. We ned to keep our cool, both on and off the pitch… :cool:

  122. 122
    GeordieTwo says:

    We can’t get off to a good start in a game to save our lives. Very poor first 25 minutes. Willo looks shaky but very impressed with Bigirimana. Obertan looks like he can beat his man but then doesn’t know what to do. What is the plan in attack? Very little service to Vuckic. Nice shot by Gosling. A real mix of good and bad. Maybe the lads will gel better in the second half. Will we see Campbell. I would think so unless Vuckic gets going.

  123. 123
    OHurley says:

    Dave,

    I’m graftin. Can’t actually watch a stream here. Though…. I’m gonna try… hehe

  124. 124
    Big Dave says:

    Oh watch you don’t crash your bike will, or start delivering papers to the wrong doors :lol: :lol:

  125. 125
    Axel says:

    MUNICH MAG it’s a barney alreet ,shame Tiote aint in the mix but Bigi might knack them second half :shock:

  126. 126
    Cologne-toon says:

    Where the hell did they get this ref? Can see us getting a red from this one!! Bigi has done well so far.

  127. 127
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    here we go now.
    Howay Lads lets get an early goal to start the 2nd half
    :razz:
    Toon Toon

  128. 128
    OHurley says:

    Dave,

    Am so clumsy like, mate, I just cannae keep me balance (why am I talking like a Geordie all of a sudden…)! Probably all dat moonshine ;)

  129. 129
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    no changes

  130. 130
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    hopeless from Obertan there

  131. 131
    toonsy says:

    Unlucky Shola. Off the bar

  132. 132
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    ffs :twisted:
    crossbar

  133. 133
    OHurley says:

    OMFG SHOLA YOU CNUT.

  134. 134
    Big Dave says:

    Amilfitano hasn’t been bad

    Bad luck Strolla

  135. 135
    OHurley says:

    Take it back. I love Shola, but daamn… that was a SITTER.

  136. 136
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Pick one of our players out you prick

  137. 137
    toonsy says:

    Obertan should be played in the middle. His pace is devastating but ask him to cross a ball and he’s screwed :lol:

  138. 138
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    I have to say Rob Elliott is looking canny in goal.

  139. 139
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    vukic crocked again :evil:

  140. 140
    OHurley says:

    Love it when the Ameobi bro’s play…

    There’s only TWO Ameobis!

  141. 141
    OHurley says:

    This ref is amazingly shite.

  142. 142
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy I was just thinking the same because on the wing he’s just a complete waste of Pace, Routledge was better at crossing

  143. 143
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Why does Williamson always foul on corners and free kicks

  144. 144
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    what a miss :oops: :oops:

  145. 145
    toonsy says:

    We look better with Sammy Ameobi on the pitch. Bit of running and directness.

    Mind they should have scored just then.

  146. 146
    ron says:

    their sammy looks good as well so far

  147. 147
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Saylor was done like a kipper there. Got away with one

  148. 148
    ash1001 says:

    one word for it all ‘Rubbish’

  149. 149
    Munich Mag says:

    Lucky man Staylor…..one man to mark and you lost him…. :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Good job they are useless…. :roll:

  150. 150
    Munich Mag says:

    Williamson is like a goon in the opponents box, he’s wor Peter Crouch, ALWAYS giving fouls away… :roll:

  151. 151
    Munich Mag says:

    Bordeaux are obviously going to be the team to beat. They are cuffing Bruge easily at the moment.

    The mighty Liverpool are being toasted by the legendary Young Boys Bern…

  152. 152
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    unlucky Shola again

  153. 153
    ash1001 says:

    Including the ones that played against Everton, non of that lot out there, look as if they are PL level, looks like APs been seeing something I haven’t in that lot, really disappointing, fell sorry for those that have travelled out there, you’re the best.
    Having said that Elliott is having a better game than I thought he would,

  154. 154
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Beautiful stop by Elliott AGAIN

  155. 155
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Have to agree with you Ash, but the pitch is shyte and its canny warm like too

  156. 156
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    playing like the cobbled together team that we are.

  157. 157
    ash1001 says:

    Am not a stroller lover, but he is so lazy its unreal, and that half hearted through ball he just tried to play says it all.

  158. 158
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    piss poor this

  159. 159
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    get strolla off now and put young Cambell on

  160. 160
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    fergy on for amalfitano

  161. 161
    Munich Mag says:

    ash1001@153….couldn’t agree more.

    I feel for the fans paying big bucks to travel to be treat to this hotch potch team…

  162. 162
    andymag says:

    Either bordeux are beast or brugge are shit but its 4-0 there apparently :shock:

  163. 163
    Munich Mag says:

    Big D’s great white hope coming on now….. ;-)
    Go on young Fergie…

    Wow…Marveaux cannot even get a run out in the “third team”… :shock:

  164. 164
    Munich Mag says:

    Elliot clear mom for me like. Excellent game…. so far….

  165. 165
    ash1001 says:

    #BEARDSLEYS BOOTS, its pretty poor, and if this is the backup sort of fair we have to look forward to, the fat controller needs to get himself a look at what we have in reserve and get the cheque book out in January + AP needs to tell him straight and stop been a YES man, cos even he can see (I would hope) that this lot ain’t good enough.

  166. 166
    Toby le Rhone says:

    Hoof ball it is

  167. 167
    Munich Mag says:

    Looks like Spurs are taking the tournament seriously….canny line up there

  168. 168
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    looks like Marveaux coming on then for Obertan

  169. 169
    andymag says:

    awww :sad: nay campbell then

  170. 170
    andymag says:

    shit :shock:

  171. 171
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    wakey wakey lads FFS

  172. 172
    Munich Mag says:

    Marv coming on……Obertan coming off. That’s the fastest he’s run all game… :evil:

  173. 173
    Munich Mag says:

    Wow man we got really lucky there…. :roll:

  174. 174
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Tripe

  175. 175
    andymag says:

    Santon :roll:

  176. 176
    Big Dave says:

    wtf is up with Oba wouldn’t even look at Marv never mind a pat on the back or a hand :shock:
    I really do think if we had a slightly stronger team we would have been winning this, but then saying that we should be winning this with the team we have

  177. 177
    Munich Mag says:

    Good touch Fergie…

  178. 178
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    @Ash
    But you’ve said they all look crap. Doesn’t that suggest that we are some way to be considered a European team? That it can’t just happen overnight?
    I’ve been impressed with Elliot. Bigi is going to be a class player. Gosling has been improved. Sammi looks decent. Shola has created a couple of class chances for himself with little service.

  179. 179
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    deary me. I can see us getting a red card before the match ends

  180. 180
    Munich Mag says:

    Big D….. Pardew has done his homework already and sussed out that Bordeaux are the team to beat. He’ll set out his stall now to beat the other two teams…Maritimo hold absolutely no fears… Bruges ditto… Hopefully he’ll show Bordeaux more respect with his team selection

  181. 181
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    5 mins :shock:

  182. 182
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Less training on dribbling, more on crossing!

  183. 183
    andymag says:

    Sammy
    Should be ahead of Obertan and marv in the pecking order, looks much better.

  184. 184
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Elliots first mistake. but ok

  185. 185
    Munich Mag says:

    Two teams qualify from each group yeah ?

  186. 186
    Big Dave says:

    I think with a goal scorer or a player with skill and we would be winning games like this, I wonder if Benny will get playing now, thats his last game of his suspension isn’t it :?:

  187. 187
    SolanosTrumpet says:

    @BD
    Yeah I think with even just one of our attacking stars we’d have had this game. Poor decision imo

  188. 188
    andymag says:

    Shouldnt have hoofed that, should have been a counter-attack

  189. 189
    Munich Mag says:

    We have had some great poitions in the box, but our final ball has been shocking as usual.

  190. 190
    Big Dave says:

    MM @ 180 will then surely this is the team you should be banking on for points :???:

  191. 191
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Full Time

  192. 192
    Big Dave says:

    ST @ 187 we know Ba is wanting to play games so play him keep him happy and get us the win :???:

  193. 193
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Liverpool made 11 changes to their team and still won 5-3.
    We need a goal scorer desperately

  194. 194
    andymag says:

    Well a draw isn’t bad considering some on here had us down for a gubbing. We were the better team and on another day might’ve got some of the decisions that we should have ie the penalty call.

  195. 195
    DJG says:

    Maybe ESPN will end their Newcastle obsession now to follow Liverpool after they missed out on a 5-3 for our boring 0-0. :razz:

  196. 196
    Munich Mag says:

    Big D…that’s the Pardew way, play it cagey. Risky business if you ask me. This game could have really gone either way, but with a bit more class we should have won this game.

  197. 197
    andymag says:

    BB
    They need a defender though ;-)

  198. 198
    ash1001 says:

    @SOLANOSTRUMPET
    What’s been a European team got to do with it, its 11 v 11 thats all manager hype.
    it really pees me off when they go on about having to be cautious in the away leg.
    its the same pitch and ball for both teams, try telling that to a bunch of 11 year old schoolchildren, home or away its the same, they wanna win.
    Its football managers and coaches that create all the ‘away tactics’ tosh.
    But before any of that you have to have players that are good enough to compete and on tonights performance we don’t. Its not Barc we have been playing.

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    andymag says:

    DJG
    Not much of a chance, they’re playing our bordeuw match on espn too

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Cant win games if we dont score.
    Its plainly obvious a better team would have scored against us tonight as we look crap defensively.
    meh :!:
    Take the point and move on, for now. But this team wont get us far in this comp imho.
    NEXT

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    Munich Mag says:

    Andymag…it could have been a gubbing if they had taken there chances in the first 15 minutes. Never expected this game to end 0-0 but there you go….

    Mom Elliot in goal
    Canny games Bigi, Gosling, Sammi and Shola.

    Amalfitano seems to have taken a step backwards… Vukic too, injured again as usual unfortunately. Obertan….well what can one say..too nonchalant, doesn’t seem interested….

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    KIMTOON says:

    we needed a better finisher out there tonight ,Shola is great at providing ,not so good at finishing :roll: Bigi looks like he can put a half decent ball in ,well impressed with Elliot which is a nice surprise as last time I watched him he was rubbish ,having said that there was no real sharp striker testing him tonight. Ref was crap as per usual in the Europa games ,all in all rather a let down ,could of done with an away goal like.

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    TonyGreenSupreme says:

    I will say it again,,,,,what is all the fuss about Vuckic?
    Very average me thinks.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    MM – I would agree with that. Whats the point playing Obertan on the wing. :?:
    Yes he has pace but cant deliver a decent cross.
    Would be more effective straight thru the centre I reckon.

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    Axel says:

    What surprises me is in commentry Chris Waddle praising Gosling ,ffs he created nowt through the middle , Bigi did his job well and is a good stand in for Tiote . We at least kept a clean sheet and came away with a draw ,but we needed Ba or Cisse upfront . Still , back to the premiership on Sunday with a few of the better players back .

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    Newkie says:

    Ba should have played but then Ameobi was a bit unlucky.

    Thought the lads did alright- Few things we learned-Gosling much better as a DM than anywhere near behind the striker. Vuckic is the new Kieron Dyer. Elliot is not as bad as has been made out prevously. I don’t think anyone has given the lad credit including me before this match but he had a good game today, who knows, he could be the next perch ;-) At least one of Ba or Cisse should be playing our euro matches, assuming the other one isn’t injured and its too early for Campbell. Obertan, most frustrating player ever… :lol:

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    Munich Mag says:

    Beardsleys Boots@200….I disagree mate, this team will get us through the group stages, but one thing’s for sure, it aint gonna be pretty. The prime reason we will progress is because the opposition are poor, and we (our reserve team by the way) are only fractionally better. Our strong defence will stand us in good stead, we really need to start scoring goals, and that includes the whole team, not just the strikers.

    As Big D mentioned, I hope we get to see more of HBA now that his ban has been served. A 30 minute cameo from him today and we would have won the game…

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    Munich Mag says:

    Newkie we might find that Pardew plays one of his big hitter strikers for the home euro games, but leaves them at home for the away trips ? Would protect them somewhat from a tiring journey abroad.

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    Newkie says:

    Munich-Aye that would make sense to be fair. I’m happy drawing all our away games and winning all our home ones, guarantees us through and won’t put too much pressure on the first 11. Plus I guess Shola is better for holding it up and passing to our youngsters and seeing if any of them can score, which would be worth knowing…

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    DJG says:

    This is why Shola has always been a ‘back-up’ striker IMHO. Flatters to deceive and then ultimately, usually, just, fails to deliver. Cry away Strumpet and co. but it’s true isn’t it. :|

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    Munich Mag says:

    Newkie… ;-) you got my back… I reckon we will get through, but it won’t be pretty…along the lines of just enough…

    Spurs – Lazio, now that’s a proper euro game after our “non-football”….

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    Big Dave says:

    MM @ 208 :shock: fuk God love them we can’t have our stars getting tired on a plane for a few hours with a bit of travelling now can we :???: ,
    I don’t buy all this tired shit I watched some of the milk cup games and the toon younguns played 5 games in 6 days, yeah I know they’re kids but were talking about professional athletes here, whats different between Santon Saylor they’ll be playing Sunday so why can’t Ba or Cisse

  213. 213
    Munich Mag says:

    I reckon Shola has a part to play on a game like today, not least he keeps the centre halves busy with his stature. The goals will come, we just need to get the midfield taking more chances and pushing further forward. Shola will score the goals to bring us through the group stages ;-)

    Not saying he’s brilliant like, but he normally knows where the goal is, probably the only one on the field tonight .. :sad:

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    Big Dave says:

    TGS @ 203 yeah I think your right

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    KIMTOON says:

    Really wish we could of had young Campbell on for last 10 mins or so.

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    Big Dave says:

    MM @ 213 put your rod away lad im not biting anymore :lol:

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    Axel says:

    The big question is , why take Campbell and not give him the last 15 minutes when we are crying out for a goal scorer and the lad is scoring for fun in the u21′s ? yes he is very young but if he is already at the level to be a part of the squad then give him a go . It was a no lose situation ,the lad would of gotten minutes playing time and if he did not score ,no one would blame him or slag him off .

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    SolanosTrumpet says:

    @DJG
    Don’t think there has ever been a clamour for Shola to start.
    He is what he is, a back up striker.
    Had a decent game today with no service, the turn for the shot that hit the bar was class. And he played a crucial part in our draw against Everton.
    So can’t complain about his efforts as third choice striker so far this season.
    (And before anyone says “he’s not good enough for us in the future”, maybe not, but he’s better than the third choice strikers for Liverpool/Tottenham/Everton so grass isn’t greener)

  219. 219
    Newkie says:

    To me, it’s not so much tiredness as injuries. Plus the more someone place the more likely they are to injure themselves, not just the addition of a game by game kind of thing, just the cumulative effect, wear and tear and the like. I know it sounds pretty pathetic-the tiredness thing especially. I just don’t want people like Benny getting crocked by angry Belgians :???:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    I wonder how much we are gonna get ripped for the home matches.
    If we are sticking with these kids then should only be £20.
    But I’ll wager now its more like £35.
    And we’ll not fill the stadium.
    Ah yes. Greed is good. Apparently. :twisted:

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    just home from work… can anybody give a thumbnail sketch of the game? Looks like a dull 0-0?

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    I wouldn’t say it was dull, but we started off shyte as per usual, Rob Elliott made some good saves to keep us in it. Then we came into it a bit more and could/should have scored ourselves.
    The ref was the usual euro tripe and didn’t help things.
    Sammy Amoeba came on and looked much better and stronger than last season, which is good. Obertan was his normal self. :???:
    Bigirimana had a great game in Central Defence. Shola hit the crossbar and the game basically petered out.

  223. 223
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    hope that helps :???:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Did anyone see an interview with Pardew :?:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    tbh you didn’t miss anything really. But overall I would say we are all happy with the 1 point away, considering the pitch was gash, the weather was hot and AP basically played a ressies side.
    Can be no excuses for a poor performance against Norwich on sunday tho.
    I fully expect to see a strong team put out and 3 points in the bag.
    HTL

  227. 227
    Big Dave says:

    BB I agree sunday we need 3 points ;-) oh and never seen Pards interview espn went straight on to another game

  228. 228
    DJG says:

    Aye, this game seemed to take a back seat to Norfolk. So lets see a good game against the chuckle brothers please. :twisted:

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    OHurley says:

    Bordeaux will definitely be the team to beat. Much higher quality than the rabble we played tonight.

    Let’s just hope January brings some decent squad players. Maybe one really good signing in the form of a defender or a striker, and then several squad players. Midfield pretty well sorted methinks, but defense and attack could use some more depth for sure.

    I’ll say a silent prayer that we don’t encounter any more pitches like the piece of shyte that we played on today.

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    3hourswasted says:

    Beardsleys Boots a@ 220 it’s £15 for the Bordeaux home game ;-) greedy bassards :lol:

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    KIMTOON says:

    I agree ,I want to see a good match winning performance on sunday .All this we forgot to set our alarm clocks this morning first halfs got to go ,we can’t keep giving the opo a headstart and only waking up in the 2nd after a bollocking from Pards ;-) . Norwich have drawn 3 and lost one so far so you could argue they are due a win but being at home I would expect the win really .

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    3hourswasted says:

    Bigi looked class tonight – very decent signing and would be happy to see him getting first team appearances

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    Big Dave says:

    OH @ 229 your not asking for much are ye :lol: :lol: you have 3 hopes, some hope, bob hope and no fuking hope :grin:
    So stop being a greedy fuker and be grateful for what we’ve got ;-)

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    Big Dave says:

    3hrs @ 230 they can afford to do them for a tenner after they skim £45 for next weeks lc game with manure :evil:

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    3hourswasted says:

    Big Dave – Manre set the prices for that match not the Toon

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    SolanosTrumpet says:

    Samuel Ameobi ‏@Sammy_Ameobi
    The awkward moment when ‘call me maybe’ came on in the changing room before the game, funny thing is no one pressed skip! #wesecretlyenjoyit
    :shock:

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    3hourswasted says:

    Manure :oops:

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    Newkie says:

    I also can’t believe the slagging off Shola gets sometimes. Those that did tonight, as yourself what Vuckic did, playing behind in space after Shola continuously outmuscled the defenders? He got no service? Well neither did Shola. Jesus. At least Shola wasn’t invisible until his injury.

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    Newkie says:

    Solano-Maybe it’s awkward because the guy in the video looks like an unpikey/good looking version of Carroll ;-)

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    3hourswasted says:

    £5 for juniors at the Bordeaux game thieving bassards :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    3hrs @ 235 they both set it not just manure mate ;-)

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    KIMTOON says:

    ST@236> To be fair it’s a catchy little ditty ;-)

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    3hourswasted says:

    Really Dave – I don’t think so but could be wrong – don’t know how anyone can complain about the ticket prices at the Toon and clearly we are not charging £35 as was suggested we might for the Bordeaux game – not even the £20 that was supposedly more reasonable but just b£15 and only £5 for kids – but expect that doesn’t tally with the fact Mike and Dekka are greedy bassards. Some people are never happy.

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    OHurley says:

    Dave-

    “Bob Hope” HAHA! Class, mate. Class. Yeah, I mean are a few decent squad players too much to ask for? I guess when Ash and Owlheed are concerned… yes.

    None of you’s know where I can get last year’s home strip, do ya?

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    3hourswasted says:

    Big Dave – this would suggest that the home team sets the prices:
    http://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/away-tickets-football-matches.htm

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    Big Dave says:

    3hrs yeah I thought the same but was reading a story about the manure game because someone complained about it being £45 when Arse were doing theirs for £20 and Chelskis I think were 25 ? so they wrote to the FA to complain about Manure being greedy and the guy wrote back to tell them thats it both teams set the price as they have to agree on it, so I don’t know if it’s just league cup games or what.

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    GeordieTwo says:

    We’ll have to field a much stronger side to win our Europa games at home. Do we have enough decent players? No. Will we have no further problems with injuries? Of course not. What was the plan again Llambias? Very disappointed with Obertan again. Every attempt at a cross was on the ground straight to a defender. Cleary he has fallen far down the pecking order now. Bigi looks very promising and Gosling was decent (nice shot off the post). Eliot was very good in goal. How will we do against Norwich after this. How will Saylor and Willo manage? Surely we won’t play Perch in the back four? Lots of questions for Pardew who has been left in this pickle by Llambias as usual.

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    Big Dave says:

    3hrs Sorry the Arse was only £10 and it’s the Football league ? not the FA

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    3hourswasted says:

    Big Dave – not sure what the truth is but inclined to believe it is the home club – even if it’s not who can complain about £15 for the Bordeaux game and just £5 for kids (Not the £35 suggested)? The Toon season ticket prices are amongst the lowest in the League – there is a lot of sh*t that can be chucked at Mike and Dekka but ticket prices aren’t one of them…..unless of course it means our revenue is too low and we can’t afford to buy decent players :lol: :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    Geordie2 I think we’ll have Anita back for Sun, do we know anymore about Colo and Tiote ? was Pards not hoping to have them back

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    Big Dave says:

    3 hrs I think you’ll find that what I said is the truth, I have no reason to say it otherwise if I wasn’t 100% I would say that I think it’s both.
    They have to mutually agree the price ;-)

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    MDS says:

    Would have taken the point once I saw the squad. Dont see why they couldn’t have at least included ba or cisse plus Jonas. Still better than playing near a first team squad and only getting a point like spurs

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    3hourswasted says:

    I’ll take your word for it Big Dave – I don’t think £15 is a rip off for the Bordeaux game though and £ 5 for kids – do you – certainly nothing like the £35 that was suggested? Seems like a great deal to me. There are far more tickets available for that game than for the Man U game which I guess makes a difference. It is supply and demand in the end – Mike and Dekka want as many in the ground as possible and to maximise revenue – finding the balance between a decent crowd and ticket price is a delicate balance – we could always give them away like Scumberland of course :lol: .

  254. 254
    GeordieTwo says:

    Not sure anyone knows about Colo and Tiote Big Dave. I think Anita would have made a difference but we still looked woeful for long stretches of the game. Vuckic had very little impact and then appeared to get injured again. I think he is running out of opportunities. Obertan has so much pace but what else? Sammy was average, nothing special. A couple of decent passes. Shola played well and could have won it for us. We clearly need to bring in another striker. Now Pardew says the escape clause is still active for Ba and he can be had for 7M. Someone is going grab him in January (there will be several struggling teams including Liverpool). What is Llambias doing to earn his money other than sitting at the games smirking as if he is a genius?

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    Big Dave says:

    MDS I would say Lazio were a slightly better side than Maritimo, and I know Spuds had 3 goal disallowed but don’t know yet why they were disallowed, but I agree 100% that we should have played a couple more 1st teamers or atleast one of our 1st team Strikers ;-)

    3hrs I agree with you about the Bordeaux game prices I think it’s more important to have the crowd making some noise than a few thousand extra £££ as there will be a lot more that will go at that price than if they were £35.
    IMO theres not much difference money wise between 10000 fans at £35 than 20000+ @ £15 plus the Kids @ £5 but the difference in the atmosphere will make up for it, and the good will it shows for the fans to be able to afford to take a family to see the Toon in Europe ;-)

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    Big Dave says:

    3hrs I found it ;-)

    David,
    Thank you for your email.

    I reference to Capital One Cup regulation 22.1, “Immediately after the draw is known the two clubs concerned must mutually agree the prices. All questions in dispute must be immediately referred to the Management Committee for settlement”.

    To that end both clubs agree on the set prices for the fixture. Should you wish to query the prices that have been agreed then we would suggest you contact either of the clubs involved in the tie. Should you have aquery about the cup in general then please email this address enquiries@football-league.co.uk.

    Thank you for contacting the football league.
    Regards
    Andrew Pomfret
    Customer Services Officer
    The Football League Limited

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    If its £15 then fair nuff. I’m happy with that, infact quite shocked.
    So I hope it will be a sellout .
    My £35 guess was a stab in the dark. But now I can happilly assume we will only be playing the younguns once again. So I accept £15 is a fair price.
    Thanks for putting me right on that on 3HW ;-)

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Oh and the scum still cant fill the ground even when they give tkts away.
    Unless WE are visiting of course :mrgreen:

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    MDS says:

    Dave agreed on lazio but a points still a point. Sounds like could have scored a few ourselves. Still, I am hoping for more of an effort in Europe. The club is more concerned with the league which is fair enough, and we do have a lot of key injuries, but there’s a middle ground between the two I think

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    Big Dave says:

    Reet lads take it easy and no fighting :lol: ;-)

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    I thought the bright strip was rather fetching and fit for purpose. Well done Mikey!

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    When I try to get back to the archives for any month, I can only manage to get one page. That page simply gives the last few days’ articles. Does anyone know how to get back to 14 August, for example?

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Troy, the texts about Dave? Is that question to me or Aussie?

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    MDS says:

    BB use the search function for older articles

  265. 265
    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    MDS – cheers, I never saw the search. Unfortunately, all I know is the date. When I put that in “search” it comes up random.

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Local lad, Ranger? :oops: :oops:
    Troy, you really should give it up lad. The family’s reputation is panned on here now.
    What is Numpty doing? :roll: Utter Plonker! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  267. 267
    aussie magpie fan says:

    B&B don’t drag my name into your family disputes mate :-)

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Sorry Aussie. I thought he was referring to you. :shock:

    Thought Bigi was the best player on the park by a mile.

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    Aussie Magpie Fan says:

    just watched a replay of the game… we were slow out of the blocks for sure… Obertan was sat on his heals for the first half hour… He did not work back enough and he left Perch to his own devices.. People can say that Perch is no right back but feck me, Obertan gave him no help early on..
    Bigi played well and worked hard, he will be a cracking little player for us..
    Elliot also had a excellent game in goal…
    One thing I noticed was the poor outcomes from our crosses into the box.
    There are two components – How early or when the ball is crossed in and the timing of the runs from the strikers and mids. Near on every time the ball was crossed in our attacking players had completed their run and were near on standing on the bloody keeper. This was due in part to the cross not coming in early enough but there were times when they should have been holding there runs back a little. This was further exasperated by the fact that our we had no midfielders making late runs into the box for a cut back pass. I know this team hasn’t played a lot of football together but it seemed like every attacking players was running to the same spot in the box at the same time :evil:
    We made it easy for their defence against our wide play. :???:
    That gripe aside, it is never easy playing away in tough conditions and we controlled the game a bit more in the second half.. With a bit more quality we could have sneaked a goal ;-)

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    Big Dave says:

    B+B what is this question you keep saying i’ve been dodging ?
    I might have time to answer before I go if not i’ll answer if I get time today or when I finish later.

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Dave, it is a good idea of yours to post on an old thread so that others aren’t bothered or interrupted, as they seem to be. Any saddo who wants to read it can still do so.

    We were debating the “due diligence” point, which you bring up quite often, and which I don’t fully understand. To the extent that I do understand it, I don’t agree with it.

    I seem to recall you made a point of telling me you had not forgotten my post on it, and that you would be posting me. You then did post and I responded in full. You then went quiet. As I didn’t know whether you had missed it, I referred to it again (all this from memory because I hate trawling). Still no response. I took the message that you didn’t want to take it any further so I just dropped it. Unlike Troy, I’m not in the aggravation game or to score points. I save my aggro for Troy because he likes to dish it out to everyone, except you. He doesn’t dish it out to you because he needs your support – which, incidentally, he would describe as “cringeworthy” if anyone else was carrying on that way.

    The reason I’m gunning for Troy is that he deliberately aggravates people, and he takes it too far. What’s worse is that he uses both puerile and underhand tactics in doing so. When he starts to lose an argument, he sees his blog persona disappearing, so he latches on to some sentence or phrase that is incidental to the main topic. He then removes it from its context, and scoffs at it remorselessly, sometimes bringing it up months later – sometimes when you don’t even know what he’s referring to. The poor poster, who didn’t check with his legal team that he had crossed very “t” and dotted every “i”, is left tearing his hair out.

    Troy is happy to run with these inane, far-fetched points because it saves him face. The trouble is that it clogs the blog for everyone else, and spoils what could be a decent debate on the main issues. Nevertheless, Troy must stick to his agenda, regardless of anyone else. Nobody else can set the agenda. We have to go through all the rigmarole, or else the accusations of cowardice fly. The irony is that I am extremely comfortable arguing the stupid points that he thinks are his bankers.

    The fact is that Troy has shamelessly misrepresented me. I cannot believe the brickbats I’m throwing at him, inviting reasoned arguments from him, and he is just stonewalling. He’s claimed on the blog that I am a coward for avoiding his questions when that is manifestly false. That is the very thing he is doing. Don’t get me wrong, I “want” to avoid his questions because I think they are inane, and other people don’t want to debate them because they are a small side show. Other people no doubt recognise that his agenda is to divert from the main point, where he is getting hammered, in order to hide, and to seek to score a point somewhere or other. It’s boring for them. Quite honestly, I’ve got better things to do.

    Despite the pile of arguments that he is refusing to answer, a pile that gets larger by the week, he now calls me a coward and accuses me of refusing to answer and explain myself in relation to the little, inane point that he cannot move from. That is not true. I have agreed to answer his latest stupid point and have fully explained that I will. All I have asked him to do is to quote my phrase in full, and in context, and then I will happily answer. These are the sort of tactics I am up against: another blatant misrepresentation.

    Troy now writes,
    “As for your comments about Dave, you going to print what I’ve said about Dave?
    As I have respect for Dave I will be emailing him with all the texts you refer to.
    This is not the forum. As I infer in the text you are referring to, which will be sent to Dave is self explanatory. The fact you have brought this up will demonstrate what a scurrilous character you are.”

    Presumably then you are aware of everything as you know each other on facebook etc? You will see that my comments are fair and reasonable as was the post that provoked this. I don’t understand why he is taking a hissy fit over it, and I’m more than ready to deal with him on this point too.

    If you are his good mate, you should have a private word with him about his disclaimer because the longer he keeps it, the bigger the tit he is making of himself.

    I’ll say one thing for him. When I’m not tearing my hair out, I’m bent double laughing at the brick bats I’m giving him, especially accompanied by all the wooo hooo hooos that he likes to give out.
    The blog assassin’s game is to jump on others’ posts, to take them out of context, and to hold them up to ridicule for his own pleasure and delight. Well, he will have to be more careful in future because I will be filing his best quotes and bringing them out when he starts picking on anyone unfairly.

    If you, or anyone else, come in against me in support of him, I’m ready to shoot the other barrel. Unlike Troy, I’m my own man and don’t feel any need to form allegiances on a blog.

  272. 272
    Pootle says:

    Seek help

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    Big Dave says:

    B+B are you going to tell me what the question was that you asked, as i’m not the type to run away from a question, so If you give me a straight question I will give you a straight answer. ;-)

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Dave, I don’t know where to find it as it’s been archived. It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. It followed on shortly after your last post on it about two weeks ago.

    As Troy took a keen interest in it, I’m sure he could use his blog assassin skills to track it down. It’s so long after the event now though, it’s probably like eating for breakfast cold curry from the night before.

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    Big Dave says:

    B+B just re read again as I was on my phone above,
    1st as I said if you ask my a straight question I will answer it no problem, all I ask in a debate is that you ask a question then wait for the answer before going on to another point, As I have found in the past that if I ask a direct and IMO a simple question some will try to give a politician’s answer or answer it with a question.
    2nd I don’t know nowt about him needing my support because he has argued his case loads of time without any help from me. Also we have disagreed on things before but we normally just state our case and agree to disagree.
    3rd It would seem from what you say that you have been talking about me in private txts :shock:
    4th and final point I have came in to support a few people on here from it started and it hasn’t always been bloggers that I would class as allies, if they were being abused or treated unfairly and I will continue to do so and if I get a barrel for that it’s no big deal to me I have had it all before. ;-)

  276. 276
    Big Dave says:

    B+B it mustn’t have been that important if you can’t remember what the question was, but you have made a point a few times that I never answered your question :shock:

    BLACKLEY & BROWNLIE
    September 18, 2012 at 23:46 (Edit)
    Big Dave @ 75- You still haven’t answered the “due diligence” questions I put to you, even though its your favourite topic..

    Wasn’t it your marra, Big Dave, who stonewalled when I disagreed with him on his favourite “due diligence” point? Even though it became apparent from his non-engagement that the poor lad was uncomfortable about answering my points,

    As I said it was that important you can’t remember :lol: how do you know then that I didn’t answer if you can’t even remember :oops:

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Dave, I detect a sense of injustice in your two posts above; your approach suggests you’re defending yourself, but I’m not sure what against? You don’t ask my anything or lay any charges.

    You remember debating the “due diligence” point, yes? I posted a full reply, but you did not respond. I then posted again that I had replied, but you did not respond. As you were on the blog at the same time, I assumed you wanted to leave it. Troy called me a bottler for not pressing you. I said to Troy that I didn’t want to press you because you clearly wanted to drop it. Troy can verify that, and the posts serve to evidence it. I am not sure now whether you’re saying you do recall it, but, as you thought it was a politician’s question, you did not respond? I can confirm it wasn’t.

    You’re right, it wasn’t that important; it was just a point of debate of which there are thousands. That said, it is one of your favourite complaints. You seem to doubt whether I genuinely posted. I’m not sure why if Troy has copied you in our posts and they show him calling me a bottler for not following it up. I remember the post; I just don’t know where to find it. I’m sure Troy can help though. It appears you, like I, have difficulty finding them?

    I don’t understand Troy’s complaint about my posting our text exchange because he has never explained it, but as you jumped in on his side, perhaps you could give me a straight response. He won’t because (a) he’s in a tizz, and more importantly (b) I seriously doubt he has got any argument. If you do give straight responses, as you say, you could properly address my post of 18 September (responding to your comment that it was “bad craic” for posting a text exchange.) Nothing wrong with posting a private text exchange, is there? It depends on what you post. Likewise, nothing wrong with talking about you in texts, is there? It depends on what you say. I’m sure you have written about a third party in private texts, sometimes good, sometimes bad.

    Obviously, Troy can argue his own case and fight his own battles, but he likes to have you as an ally. He has carefully cultivated your relationship. It comes across as clear as day on the blog. He might stand alone at times, but he doesn’t like to. You won’t get a barrel from me for sticking up for anyone who is being unfairly treated. You will, however, if, in my opinion, Troy is unfairly treating someone and you ally yourself to him. The frustrating thing is that Troy hasn’t yet heard my arguments, and I reckon his current position is designed to keep it that way. I can’t believe how he has stonewalled all my questions, misrepresented everything I’ve said, and gone in the biggest hissy fit in the history of blogs. And all under that hypocritical disclaimer!

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    Big Dave says:

    B+B yeah maybe it comes across as me defending myself because you have mentioned a few times and imo tried to ridicule me that I haven’t answered this question on DD :?: add to that the fact that you seem to think that Troy and I need eachother to fight battles together, I am pretty certain from what I have seen on here that Troy can fight battles himself, and I assure you I don’t need anyone’s help to fight my battles.
    I don’t doubt for one minute that you didn’t post a question but I have tried to tell you several times that I don’t remember what the question was, and if you ask me a question I can assure you I will answer.

    As for the txts between you and Troy I can honestly say that me saying it was bad craic, that was a wind up for you to bite because I was pretty certain that you would bite, and I was right you did you tried to pull the rod outta my hand :lol: but luckily I was strong enough to hold on ;-) .

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    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    I am pleased you’re not the only one that can’t find archived posts. I’ve learnt now that, like a good blog assassin, Troy either has a method of retrieval or a storage system, and uses it to his advantage to take old posts out of context. When asked to set them out in full so that their in context before you answer, he shouts to everyone that you won’t answer. Now that, to use his word, is “scurrilous”.

    Yes, you certainly got a big bite there! :lol:

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    Big Dave says:

    B+B so is that us back on normal terms with no hard feelings :grin: and accusations of me stonewalling or failing to answer ;-)

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