Just some quick highlights of the big derby from yesterday for you all to view at your leisure now.
All in all I’d say 1-1 was about fair on the day, but it was only fair because we were down to ten men for the vast majority of the game. Had we have kept eleven men on the pitch I’d have expected us to have won as Sunderland were up to nothing at all and we had control of the game.
Still I guess it doesn’t really matter now and, as the away side and having played with ten men from 25 minutes onwards, we can take bragging rights forward to the next fixture between the two sides at St James’ Park in April.
Howay the lads!
Shearer thinks that is a sending off?? 😯 Howay man..That’s your team playing in black and white,let’s get the benefit of the doubt atleast. Never a sending off for me personally. 😐
deepak is an indian toon(Quote)
“Death chants towards Steven Taylor seen in poor taste.”
“Single supposed racist chanter under police investigation.”
I’m sorry but the double standards here are pathetic.
Which is the greater offence, yet the former is shrugged off.
That’s a joke.
JJ(Quote)
Having seen Tiote’s card. I don’t even think its a yellow.
He is being pulled back which makes him late and high in the challenge. If not he would have won the ball clean.
Terrible refereeing.
JJ(Quote)
rose coloured specs 😳
tattyheed(Quote)
BD’s point is true and showing the double standards of fans – if it had been Cattermole on one of ours, we’d be screaming for a red.
Tiote’s challenge was more dangerous than the one Sessengon got sent off for last season anyway.
Tiote will miss at least 13 games again this season now. Sell him.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
I don’t think the challenge was red btw. But the ref is fully warranted giving it, and Tiote only has himself to blame as it was pure petulance. Tiote should get all the blame here, not the ref. i hope Shola gave him a right bollocking.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Solano,
I agree about Tiote not having to ability to control himself.
But on this occasion I have to defend him. I don’t think it was intentional at all.
Feel more sorry for Shola who had to come off.. thought he was looking good
JJ(Quote)
Not intentional JJ 😯 Have you ever played football mate?? When you get to that level of skill, you know exactly where your foot is going. He tried to impose himself and caught caught by a trigger happy ref.. Agree that it shouldn’t have been a red but to say it was not intentional is a joke.
Worst still, he did it after he had been paid a free and that makes what he did even worse… Should have been a yellow and nothing more… 😕
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
*caught caught 😯 😐
* was caught *
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Would I ask for a red if Cattermole had done the same? Probably. Would I expect it? Not a chance. Cattermole tore through the back of Tiote in the first minute of the last derby and should have had a red, but didn’t get one, I’m used to it.
Tiote’s challenge was never a red, most neutrals I know agree too.
Newkie(Quote)
Deepak-That’s why he can’t really be seen to be favouring us, because if he defended Tiote he’d be accused of being biased.
Personally I don’t agree with much he has to say on MOTD anyway, or what he says is usually very….obvious? Or boring 😆
Newkie(Quote)
Aussie – I’ve watched it again this morning. I felt yesterday it was a sending off – but I think that may have been because I had a feeling before the game that Tiote would be in trouble. His discipline has been very poor this season.
However, having watched it again I the red was harsh to be honest. I understand the point you’re making, and the tackle was dangerous – but was it any more dangerous than the Larson kick in Bas chest? I dont think so.
The ref had awarded us a freekick for the foul on Tiote, and that should have taken into account. I don’t think he was fully focused on the tackle due to Colbacks foul.
Fletcher made a meal of it and the Sunderland players influenced the ref abit like.
I understand why it was a red, but having thought it was right initially, I think yellow would probably have been the right call.
Sharpy17(Quote)
The referee was abysmal. I’ve said it before, the referees who make me rabid are old referees.
Atkinson is 41; twice the age of a lot of the players. It’s a young man’s game. When you’re getting on, your powers begin to wane; even your ability to keep up with play, an essential prerequisite, becomes compromised as your body gets older.
Based on age alone, would you have an 80 year old officiating? Eh, No.
A 60 year old? No problem for a game of bowls.
A 40 year old? Perhaps, but not the EPL.
I wouldn’t have a problem if I was satisfied the ref was as fit and as athletic as the players he is reffing, and he can pass a series of tests of speed of reaction and accuracy of perception. I doubt anyone over 40 could do that in the EPL.
The picture of Atkinson on Wiki shows he is carrying a spare tyre, for gods’ sakes. It also shows he has a recent history of getting it wrong on the big occasion. “On 1 October 2011, Atkinson came under fire for sending off Everton midfielder Jack Rodwell in the 23rd minute of a Merseyside derby at Goodison Park, which was ultimately won 2—0 by Liverpool. The official erroneously adjudged Rodwell to have committed a foul worthy of a straight red card, although replays suggested the player won the ball cleanly and safely from Liverpool forward Luis Suárez. In a post-match interview, Everton manager David Moyes claimed the derby was “ruined” by the decision to send off Rodwell.”
At last there are moves to bring in video replays. One day, we will get young, fit, competent referees. That day can’t come too soon.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Sharpy, don’t get me wrong mate, I thought the ref was terrible. Worst I have seen for a long time… He was looking to stamp his authority on the game and got it wrong. Spoilt the game for me….
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
As for Shearer, he recognises that he has to show himself as being as impartial as possible for the sake of his career. Where there is any controversy involving NUFC, he always plays it safe. I noticed there was no mention on MOTD2 of the Larrson challenge. Just how safe does he want to play it?
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Oz @ 8 You’ll have to clarify that, mate, because I see a lot of deliberate mistakes by players if you are right.
I don’t know about JJ, but I played for 10 years in the NSW state league and I know there are times when you miss the ball and accidently take out the player. From what I see on telly that also happens in the EPL.
The thing is, you may know where you want to put your foot but sometimes, for a variety of reasons, for eg your body not coordinating with your eye or due the movement of the other player, it doesn’t happen the way you want it to happen.
Usually, though, it all happens too quickly for you to even consider where your feet are. Mostly, when in the thick of the action, you play by instinct. I often played as a ball-winner in midfield, a similar role to that of Tiote, and your mindset has to be: You want that thar ball and you’re **** well gonna get the fecker. Sometimes you get over-enthusistic. Sometimes you make the wrong decision. You often have no idea what you are going to do until you’ve done it.
brisvegas(Quote)
Biggest game of the season ruined by the referee for me. Absolute disgrace.
The faceless old gippers who run the game’s ruling bodies should take some of the blame too. They have sterilsed the game by taking tackling out of it. When did the rule change from a dangerous tackle with your foot up to any tackle with your foot up?
Whichever way you look at it, there was no danger to Fletcher from Tiote’s studs. To be fair to Shearer, he no doubt had the FA’s latest interpretation of the sanitised rules in mind.
Today’s game is unrecognisable to the game of the seventies. Being deadly serious here, I think it is time to bring back that game in an alternative league for those who want to play it and watch it.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Vegas, I tried conversing with you about poor ref’ing last summer and you seemed to have no issue with it then 🙂 🙂
There are a lot of deliberate poor tackles in the epl, some get away with it some don’t. Tiote is on the radar for being an agressive player and he gets judged harshly… I’ve already stated that it wasn’t worthy of a red.. I played for nearly 25 years and have been kicked like that and have dealt a few out. I always knew when I was going in over the top of the ball. There were errant kicks, more than I can recall but to me they are part and parcel of tackling. There is a distinction between the two.
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Well said Bris @ 16!
Whatever level you play at, the faster you go for the ball, the opposition are usually just as fast to put there leg where it might get hurt.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
“their” leg 😳
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
B&B @ 17: If you get that idea up and running you’ll probably also have the power to make 27 years old again. If you can do that I’ll sign up for it. 😆
brisvegas(Quote)
I’d be in that as well. Loved the bash and crash physical football 🙂 🙂 Paying for it now tho, my ankles are ****** 🙂 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Always have problems with referees, Oz. But it’s the nature of being a football fan to cheer when things go your way and hiss when they don’t. 😆
We agree that it wasn’t a red card offence, but I’m a bit confused by why you think that. You say that Tiote did what he did intentionally, yet you say it shouldn’t have been red. To my mind, if you go into a tackle with the intention of causing injury to someone you deserve a red card.
brisvegas(Quote)
AMF@22 you should have used boots them flip flops are nee good mate 😀
icedog(Quote)
Must agree that the ref had a shocker and in no way was it a red card. It was a poor challenge but not a reckless one. I really dont understand some people saying we should sell Tiote. Tiote has a dirty job to do and in that role he is going to pick up cards and suspensions. Its the nature of the beast. He is amazing at what he does and the his beneift to the team vastly outweights the odd suspension.
Johno Toon(Quote)
I thought it was a rash challenge but not enough to warrant a straight red. He didn’t leave his feet and slide in which can be deemed a worse challenge. He left a foot in there and got punished, unfortunately it was red and not yellow.
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Ice, 🙂 🙂 now you tell me, I was slipping over ever where mate 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Hmm, well, ok. 😆 Frankly, I’m not even sure it was worth a yellow. But, hey, yellows are given for all sorts of inane reasons.
brisvegas(Quote)
In my new 1970’s football, called “70’s Football”, I’m going to start with the 1970 rule book. Most importantly there is going to be no ruling body. The game is going to belong to the people. No unelected faceless cronies. Any rule changes are going to come about by a fan vote, and implemented on a majority. All cup final tickets will be made available to the fans of the two clubs concerned. This is the counter-reformation and it starts now.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Vegas 🙂 I know mate.. seen worse given a yellow and less given a red… feckin lottery really 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Beers at half time must be written into your 70’s rule book B&B. 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
@Johno
He just gets too many niggly injuries for me. Awesome player yes, but as I’ve parroted on about – he’ll have missed a third of last season, and a third of this season. Is he worth it? He usually takes a few games to get up to speed as well.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
@johno
I’m also saying sell as I don’t think Ashley is going to put in much money unless a big player leaves, and I believe Tiote is the one we should accept bids for if possible.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
It wouldn’t surprise me if O’Neil told his players to try and get under the skins of Tiote and Cabaye in particular. I really thought our back 5 were magnificent yesterday though – best Williamson has played this season IMO and Colo may not have the gob to get his instruction across at times but he really lead by example yesterday and was huge for us.
As for Big Al – I wonder if it’s was said to him ‘if Cattermole had put the challenge on Ba, what would you have wanted the ref to do?’. I think that’s the type of tackle it was if we are being honest. One of our players make it and it’s yellow, one of our players receive it and it’s red.
If Tiote was reading this, I would like to apologise to him though. In the heat of it all I called him a bloody idiot!, I dont think he was, he didn’t go running 20-30yrds looking to make the challenge, he was just caught between a foul and a poor tackle.
Finally, Cabaye in the first 20 mins of yesterday’s game (before the sending off) was the Yohan we have been looking for this season. He’s a real threat and a joy to watch IMO, hope that 20mins spurs him on now for the rest of the season.
Sharpy17(Quote)
I forgive you Sharpy !
Cheick Tiote(Quote)
Pardz seemed OK with the decision but I reckon he would be a bit pissed by it behind the scenes. I reckon he might be having a word or two to Tiote as well…
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Card… 😯
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