214 thoughts on “Building on a budget with the colour purple

  1. I know its pointless going over the Ba debacle again, but its just staggerring that we let the best striker we have had since Shearer, go so easily and so cheaply. Even if we had offered him £100k a week it would still be cheaper than starting from scratch with someone new.
    If he had continued to be prolific, and he will, and chelsea had still wanted him, they would have paid top dollar for him.
    Also, it was his goals that would have saved our season from the wreck it finds itself in now.
    Unbelievably short sighted foolishness from the bafoons running this club
    AGAIN
    😈 👿 😈 👿 😈 👿

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  2. I dont know about bedsheets again, that just made certain fans look even more retarded than they already are. The press and media love all that, as it shows us up to be a bunch of whinging Northern Monkeys, or whatever it is they say.
    People need to vote with their feet, as painful as that is.
    An empty stadium sends out a powerful message, and the regime would take the shit for it in the media.
    The fat controller would probably burst a blood vessel and I dont think Limpbastad would last very much longer.
    Unfortunately it will prove nigh on impossible to organise this, as the vast majority of fans dont have the backbone or stomache for it.

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  3. Yes we’ve blown a hole in our season a mile wide now BB but it’s up to the owner to pull his investment out of the fire now. Nobody will be feeling sorry for him if we go down but it might be much worse than last time. I hope Cabaye is ready and raring to go on Saturday along with all the others. Let’s hope to see some creative attacking at home for a change.

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  4. I’m not sure Ba would of stayed if we offered £90/100k a week ,reckon he would leave anyway if Chelsea came calling ,he probably want’s to win things. If you look at Benny’s latest comments he’s not talking about a wage increase he’s talking about Football ambition within the club.

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  5. Nah I disagree Kim.
    We should have had the Ba contract sorted out at the end of the summer transfer window, when no other club had come sniffing around.
    He would have signed on for £90/100k then. Thats what his agent said they were looking for. That is not an unreasonable ammount to pay for one of the top strikers in the PL
    Chelsea have got the biggest bargain in PL history imo. 👿

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  6. I guess we’ll never know Kimtoon. I think he might have stayed but that may just be wishful thinking. The same problem may occur with Ben Arfa next summer. Will we just let him go as well? I would imagine so if the offer is good enough. This is strictly a business for Ashley after all. Again the question becomes who would come in to replace him though? Another Obertan? Nice and cheap and young, isn’t that what the owner’s after? I hope he changes my mind in the next 2 weeks but I’m not holding my breath.

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  7. Come on we were paying shearer and owen over £100k each, way back then. Its only really strikers that get this level of money, because thats what they are worth at the end of the day.
    The clever boys gambled and lost, AGAIN.
    pair of clowns. 👿

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  8. G2 – I think its far more likely Benny will just sit tight and run his contract down. Lets face it he’s not exactly breaking a sweat for us is he ❓
    No we will try and sign him up to a crap contract extension, which he will knock back. Then we will try and sell him for £20M+. Then he will walk away for nothing as a free agent, laughing all the way to the bank.
    Just like simmo will.
    ffs this regime are so disorganised they cant even make some money by selling Simpson.
    The ineptitude is breath taking.

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  9. Good piece on nufc.com

    “Much like his team’s performances this season, Alan Pardew’s latest press comments on Thursday did little to improve the prevailing mood round these parts.

    Noticeably less strident than earlier in the month when it came to the subject of incoming transfers, a cynical interpretation would be that he was trying to dampen expectation post-Remy:

    “It was a little strange (that Remy went to QPR) as we had obviously put a lot of work in and made the club (Marseille) an offer that was accepted, a good offer.

    “We made a fantastic offer to the player and then he didn’t arrive. This club is on a financial footing that is strong, but we’re still not going to pay silly money.

    “We’re going to pay what is correct and that is what we offered. We made a fantastic offer, a fantastic Premiership offer to that player – trust me.

    “I don’t really want to criticise the player. The player makes the decision and he stands by it. I don’t really have anything else to say on it.

    “We’re going to sit down next week and hopefully iron out the issues and come to the conclusion that Colo stays and obviously that’s what I hope for as a manager.

    “It’s obvious that there is a problem there in his life – the best way of dealing with it sometimes is to be on a football pitch and play your best football and he certainly did that last week.

    “The job for us is to make sure we’re strong enough in the second half of the season. We’ve obviously lost Demba Ba and we need to find a replacement. There’s no doubt about that and we’re working very hard towards it.

    “It’s important that the club goes forward in the right manner and we don’t make a knee-jerk decision and bring in a player that is not suitable and right for this football team.

    “But we still have to be conscious of where we are in the division and we’re in a precarious position that we hope to strengthen on Saturday with a positive result.

    “I think we definitely need a player or two in this window to make sure of our Premier League status because we’re under a little bit of pressure.

    “Hatem Ben Arfa is still missing, I’ve lost Demba (Ba) and Cheick (Tiote) is away on African Nations duty so our full complement of players within our club is not good enough because we’re still missing players.”

    The manager also contributed some patronising waffle for the official site, but refrained from repeating his earlier ludicrous comments about the SJP crowd having a part to play in convincing Colo to stay at the club and honour his contract. That didn’t work with Demba Ba did it?

    “I think our fans have been particularly faithful and loyal to us because we’ve had a tough spell with things going against us.

    “I think now we’ve just got to find a way, that’s what we’re going to have to do. Our game plan that we had last year and the way we played a little bit might need to change to just make sure that we continue being a stable Premiership side and then look to next year to start going back to attacking the top of the league.

    “I think that’s really where we’re at and I think our fans recognise that. For us, it’s now about getting the right complement of players and making sure we’re strong and put some excitement on that football pitch between now and the end of the year.

    “Because in the first half of the season I don’t think it’s been good enough – and I’m the manager saying that.

    “This weekend we’ve got some horrendous weather coming in and I think it’s an important game for the fans to turn up and be strong for us. They’ve been brilliant all year.

    “The snow’s coming but we’ve got probably the best workforce at the ground to clear it and a good relationship with the council and we’re doing everything to make sure it’s definitely going to be on.

    “I think some games will get called off this weekend but I think ours will definitely be on and I’m hoping we go and make our fans happy which will be a nice change.”

    That’s despite ticket prices, ridiculous kickoffs, reduced away allocations, rotten performances, transfer market misadventures and broken promises. Still faithful and loyal, yes but starting to openly question just what is happening on Barrack Road – and not getting answers.

    Despite presiding over what is statistically our worse league campaign at this point since 1988/89, the manager remains free from public criticism – despite attempts of numerous national newspapers to suggest otherwise.

    That’s a reflection of what he achieved personally last season, sympathy with his current plight and a certain belief that we shouldn’t repeat previous misadventures of the Owen, Viduka, Luque, Boumsong and Xisco variety.

    Pardew can count himself remarkably fortunate that his team’s dreadful run has yet to provoke fans into abusing either him, his players or his employers. Far from being fickle and impatient as routinely portrayed by others, the stoicism of our following is both a benefit and a curse.

    However that patience and goodwill will evaporate should the inactivity of last summer be repeated in the remaining days of January. As the man said, we’re keeping our side of the bargain – 100,000 people watching successive home defeats at the hands of West Ham and Swansea.

    Don’t mistake an absence of bedsheet protests and abuse for a lack of concern as to our current plight. The jury is out until this window closes and then he’ll be judged on whatever team he’s able to field. Bemoaning his lot in February as he’s done since August will no longer be acceptable – failing to get deals “over the line” becomes Pardew’s failure, regardless of the context and detail.

    Bland platitudes about great support will count for nowt if results don’t pick up in the next few games, as will trying to pass off the return of injured players with that old chestnut about being like a new signing.

    At the risk of repeating ourselves, when our first-choice XI took the field earlier this season, their performances were still under-par, but obscured by the goal grabbing ability of the now-departed Demba Ba. That particular get out of gaol card is now longer in the manager’s deck.

    And similarly to blame the young players for not stepping up is a simplistic approach – yes, we continue to lack quality at youth and reserve level, but unless a club has a golden generation of prospects, then expecting to prosper with more than one in the side is unrealistic.

    A further influx of Abeids, Amalfitanos and Bigirimanas would be evidence that we’re prepared to reduce the wage bill to a level that would render the side not only incapable of reproducing last season’s finishing position, but even remaining in this division.

    We seem intent on proving the old adage that if you stand still you go backwards. For Nile Ranger to be in an NE postcode, never mind on the bench is symbolic of the drift we’ve suffered and if the most infamous comment of Pardew’s reign is the one about not selling Andy Carroll, then his “no way back for Nile” line is on the podium.

    If we go to Spurs with the same holes in the same areas that 52,000 of the “faithful and loyal” can see now, then fans are entitled to consider their position – and Pardew should similarly take a long hard look at himself.

    Here endeth the lesson.”

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  10. There is no doubt in my mind that Ba will score a hat full of goals for Chelsea and I think they got a bargain also.If we had matched the wages that they will be paying he would still have left at some point for the big city lights.I love my region and think its a brilliant place to live but its got nothing on London and thats just the way it is.Most players have wives and girlfriends and im not being sexist here,but women were born to shop and im sorry but the Metro Centre is not going to keep them happy for too long in my opinion.Footballers have an awful lot of spare time on their hands,its not like they are over worked so its only natural that they will want to be distracted by other things,

    In this day and age its very hard to get loyalty because there is no parity in pay in football and a lot of players will play for anyone if the moneys right,you cant spend cups and medals,they are what players love but I bet if you offered them a 100k a week to sign for a shite team thats not got a hope of winning something they would snap ya hand off,last time I looked it was 1969 we won anything,so if your not a local lad like Shearer or Beardsley why bother.43 years is a long time to get it right and we still have not managed it.The present owner has no chance of changing that because he lacks the vision,passion and desire to give it a go.

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  11. Can’t say I disagree BB. It looks that bad all right. No real sense of reality in the club at all right now. They’re acting as if everything is fine, situation normal. If Llambias has no sense of urgency now he never will have. These next 2 games are the key. If we were to lose both Ashley will panic, I would bet on it.

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  12. BB so say we did offer Ba £80-90k a week and he stayed for a while until a big club ala Chelski came calling he still would have been off, but in the mean time you then have Cabaye, Benny, Cisse etc all coming to the club and saying right you doubled Ba’s wages we want the same or we’re off, what would we do then ?? pay them or say no ❓

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  13. Your right there Dave,its a vicious circle,monkey see monkey do when it comes to another paler getting more money.It will continue to be that way until there is some sort of pay scale ceiling but the chances of that happening are about as long as me ever seeing this club win anything of note.very sad but very true

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  14. Yes thats a great article from the Lads at NUFC.com
    Full of passion. I’ve been waiting for that one for a while now.
    Hits the nail on the head completely.
    tick-tock Ashley. the clock is ticking and time is running out.
    God help us come Feb 1st if we dont bring in the appropriate reinforcements by then.
    Because the shit is going to hit the fan.

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  15. Big Dave – it doesn’t work like that and you know it.
    pointless arguement.
    You pay the players what they are worth,
    Name me one club where every player gets payed the same.
    Did we have that problem when shearer was getting paid top dollar at the club.
    NO
    If those players are playing out of their skins week in and week out, then come contract renewal time they will get what they deserve also.
    Also I accept that it may well be inevitable that Ba would still leave, but if we had signed him up to a decent contract then at least we would be able to afford his replacement. That was my point.

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  16. Remember last time we were in this position, we bought Taylor and Nolan, two Fizzy pop players. Don’t be surprised if we go shopping there again.

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  17. It was a great read BB,but as for the shit hitting the fan if this continues im pretty sure it will be half hearted at best and non existent at worst.You know as well as I do if anything remotely akin to a protest sky will be there pulling the toothless drunks and morons that wander around the toon most days to stop and give interviews,they are always fun for everyone but us and just makes us look like fools.Hell the bloke that sits next to me moans his tits off if I stand up and sing ffs,you think they really give a toss about protesting,I doubt it mate

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  18. “but in the mean time you then have Cabaye, Benny, Cisse etc all coming to the club and saying right you doubled Ba’s wages we want the same or we’re off,”
    name me one instance when this has ever happened at any club anywhere in the world.
    Total and utter bunkum. You surprise me.

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  19. I see where you are going there, i.e players to carry us through the fizzy pop, but they are not fizzy pop players so to speak. Raylor is a good standard PL squad player and Nolan bangs ’em in wherever he plays – at PL level.

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  20. BB how is it a pointless argument ? Ba had a contract with us so goes demanding that the club double his money the club give in and do it because he is an important player, so a few months down the line he hit’s a bad patch and can’t score or picks up an injury. So Cisse come’s to the rescue and starts banging them in like last season, then thinks hold on a min im keeping the club up the prem here so he goes and tells the club that he’s worth more money ? so what do we do ???. or Benny or Cabs start playing regular and again become (Benny) provider and the man that creates everything, and Cabs again becomes part of the back bone of the team do they go and ask for a pay rise ??

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  21. talk about understatement
    “I think we definitely need a player or two in this window to make sure of our Premier League status because we’re under a little bit of pressure.”
    Then we have this peach
    “But we still have to be conscious of where we are in the division and we’re in a precarious position that we hope to strengthen on Saturday with a positive result.”
    Really Alan ? This should be interesting. I cant see it myself, but I’m feeling a tad negative at the moment. Cant think why tho.

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  22. BB @ 171 how da fuk would I or anyone else know what club that would have happened at do you think they would advertise the fact.
    But I do know that it happens in the work force often enough.

    Let me ask you if you worked for a firm and you’s were all roughly on the same sort of money and you found out that one off them went to the boss and got a pay rise of double what they were on would you happily carry on doing your job for the same money ??? if you would you would need to get your head examined

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  23. I agree with BB re this argument. If you wamt mid table guff then fine, lose your most consistent performers to the better teams and buy cheap replacements. I dont count Benny or Cabs as being at the level Ba was for us during his time here. Benny is always injured, Cabs has been rubbish all season. They have not earnt pay rises. Ba did. Like you say, he had a contract so our choice was easy, pay the going rate for our top performer to stay or lose jim fir a relative pittence and pray to God we gind a cheap replacement. So far the latter js not looking good…

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  24. finally Pardwho comes out with this
    ““This weekend we’ve got some horrendous weather coming in and I think it’s an important game for the fans to turn up and be strong for us. They’ve been brilliant all year.

    “The snow’s coming but we’ve got probably the best workforce at the ground to clear it and a good relationship with the council and we’re doing everything to make sure it’s definitely going to be on.

    “I think some games will get called off this weekend but I think ours will definitely be on and I’m hoping we go and make our fans happy which will be a nice change.”

    Fully expect the match to be called off at about 2:30 or so then.
    I also think we should do everything to ensure the match does get postponed. We need the time imo

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  25. Sham yeah Cabs hasn’t been the same this season but imo he was a very valuable player last season for the whole of last season, so we give Ba double because he has started brilliant this season but we forget that he could hit a barn door for the 2nd half of last season, as for Benny when he plays he is the most gifted player we have and is the creater of near every chance we get

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  26. I hear you Dave but you cant compare football to other normal businesses.
    Its just NOT the same mate.
    Also you are hypothesising about what ifs and maybe’s. I’m talking about the reality of the situation here and now.
    Sorry Bud, I just think you are wrong with your speculation on this one.
    No offence, and I’m not going to carry on arguing the point with you.
    😛

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  27. I’m not convinced that Ba’s goals would have dried up had we not brought in Cisse last January. When we really needed a CB.
    The Ba problems have really stemmed from that point on.
    Once again the regime think they have found another gem, but he upsets the balance of the whole team and ends up being a lemon.
    Epic fail by the board yet again.

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  28. Sorry BB missed that comment earlier,we have to see things as they are sometimes.Football is business like no other as you say,god knows if it will ever get reigned in or just spin out of all control.We will just have to wait and see mate

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  29. Kim – yes Cisse was scoring, but Ba got shoved out on the left and wasn’t.
    Out came the lip and as far as I am concerned the toys were thrown out of the pram too.
    I call that upsetting the balance of the team.
    It was unnecessary and not required.
    We needed a CB in and we got another striker, to shut us up.
    Nobody was expecting Cisse, not even Pardew.:shock:

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  30. Quote from Arry in todays daily mirror “TV cash means I CAN spend the owner’s money “. Can you ever in a million years see Pards getting away with that much freedom of speech. 😉

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  31. I think it’s unfair to call Cisse a lemon. Last season he was in the center scoring goals, while Ba was out wide not scoring. This season Ba was playing the center role with Cisse being forced out wide, now with Ba gone and Cisse back in the center i think we will see him scoring again or at least I hope so.

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  32. BB, yeah I agree, I think if Pardew and the club had any brains at all they would realise that the snow could be a great way to buy time. It would give us an extra week in the transfer market and allow Cabaye to get more fitness and S.Taylor to return. Reading are going quite well at the moment as well so to postpone it to a time when they may not be would be advantageous. I can’t believe Pardew would want the game to go ahead if we didn’t have to, unless he knows something we don’t, like a miraculous improvement in training, which is unlikely. I would gladly find out that the match has been postponed on the bus on the way to town, I will have a few pints instead. Our survival is the most important thing.

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  33. Stateside ,I hope so mate ,but he’s gonna need a damn site better service than what he’s currently getting. 🙄

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  34. Big Dave – I have called Cisse a lemon most of this season, The reasons have been plain for all to see.
    I have also previously admitted that its wrong of me, but he has yet to really prove otherwise.
    I am not holding my breath
    You say he is out of form, but seriously if you watch him closely, his body shape is all wrong, he is constantly offside and would struggle to hit a cows arse with a banjo 😛
    Some of the goals he has scored last season beggar belief tbh.
    It makes me question if they are genuine great goals or just a run of pure flukes 😯
    I better go and get my tin hat now :mrgreen:

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  35. Ba was a left winger when he was not scoring. Can hardly use that against him. As for Benny, the guy oozes class – but up until now he has been a part timer for us. You dont pay part timer’s top whack.

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  36. I’ve seen some Lemons at the toon and Pappis is definitely not one of them. With the correct service the guy is immense and about as good a natural finisher as you will see but he can’t do it all on his own.

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  37. Kim if you go by reports they tried to get him the year before after Carroll went but were asked for too much money, the club obviously knew Ba was going to go so when they got the chance they took it. Cisse scored 22 goals a season in the last 2 seasons so he was a natural goal scorer not bad for a lemon 😆
    Ba on the other hand scored 16 last season and 13 the season before 😯

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  38. He isnt getting any service worth mentioning Kim,lets hope the rubbish balls he was getting against Norwhich improve or we are up shit creek

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  39. Whichever way we look at it, it’s embarrassing when we cannot compete with the likes of QPR for players – end of!

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  40. BB, Your having a laugh aren’t you? Maybe you could score one or two ‘flukes’ a season but to score 13 in 12 is no fluke. In a good team the guy will score goals, a lot of his goals have been tap ins and the like so I don’t know how you figure they were all ‘flukes’. 😯

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  41. Look we all hope Cisse comes good at the end of the day.
    By ‘eck we certainly need him to.
    Kim @ 189. No I dont think Pardew is that clever or forward thinking.
    I’m also convinced he knew nothing of the Cisse deal until the last minute.
    I saw the look on his face that day. He was in total shock.
    He wanted a CB and still does, yet the board seem reluctant to supply him with one. Go figure. 😕
    I wonder if Limpbastad is still playing “premier league manager 2007”
    Useless effing muppet 👿

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  42. I reckon Cisse will Come good if we quit the hoofball and play football again. It’s down to Pardew to sort that out, afterall he’s the manager ffs.

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  43. To suggest he fluked most of his 13 goals for us is rediculous .No doubt people will go on about the fact Ba is scoring for Chelsea now ,but when you are surrounded by first class players who provide great service and are also full of confidence it gets easy .

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  44. I think as well that to beat keepers at this level you need to try things. Simple shots will be saved, the best strikers try lobs, volleys, backheels, all sorts to score at this level. Cisse is a top striker, deal with it. 🙂

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  45. DJG yeah ok not all flukes, but not fluffed attempts from 30 yards like this season either.
    I know I am being harsh, but ffs we have been carrying him all season.
    This season he has looked absolutely hopeless, even with the tap in chances he has had.
    Like I say, I DO hope he finds the right pair of boots again, by saturday, because otherwise we are royally buggered.

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  46. Shamrock , 😆 😆 😆 meow ,poor Torres :mrgreen:

    nite all ,hopefully we sign a couple over the weekend and the game gets called off giving us a little more time 😎 😉

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  47. yeah well..form is temporary class is permanent. When he scored the most goals was when the team was playing well and we had most if not all of our best players available (apart from Williamson/S.Taylor) Is it any wonder he hasn’t been scoring in this current team? I don’t think Messi would score many in this current team.

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  48. Hehe 😆 Bad times when we are wishing games be called off against ‘lesser opposition’ (I use the term loosely)…

    Night all.

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  49. Shamrock
    Just shows how shit Torres has been. Shola would 20+ a season if he had Mata, Hazard, Oscar and Ramires all passing to him.
    On another note
    I’m away tomorrow on a school trip to Cologne so won’t know what happened to the toon till we return on Sunday. HWTL hoping for 3-0 win, will settle for a scrappy 1-0 with Cissé scoring with his face though.

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