Kinnear To Chase Pardew’s Targets?

Linked again, but is he good enough?
Linked again, but is he good enough?
When Joe Kinnear returned to the club as Director of Football he made it perfectly clear that he would get the final say with transfer dealings. Kinnear proved he wasn’t bluffing early on as he refused to authorise the planned free transfer of FC Twente defender Douglas. In fact he made former Managing Director Derek Llambias contact the player to tell him the deal was off. This proved to be one of Derek’s last duties before handing in his resignation.

It had been questioned by fans whether Alan Pardew would be willing to work under stipulations which would forbid him from having too much of a say in incoming transfers. It’s well documented that Chief Scout, Graham Carr has been heavily involved with transfer dealings and has been responsible for most of our recruits in the last couple of seasons. I did read somewhere that apparently Gabby Obertan and Davide Santon were Pardew’s buys rather than Carr’s, but I think Graham has identified most of our in comings.

Kinnear has publicly stated that he does intend to work closely with both Carr and Pardew in terms of dealings, but has always repeated his final opinion is the one that matters. Reports have even suggested that Joe will act as peace maker between Pardew and Carr, who allegedly have had a number of squabbles over the ability of some of our current playing staff. If these revelations are true, you do have to wonder how Alan may feel about having someone else on board who will dictate to him about who the club should be signing. Although it seems Joe may very well value Pardew’s opinions after all.

The Mirror is today reporting that following a telephone conversation with the Manager, Joe will go out and try and land two of Pardew’s long term targets. Newcastle have been linked heavily with striker Darren Bent and West Ham’s James Tomkins for some time, both are believed to be players that Alan wants to bring to Tyneside. If the report is accurate, it could be that Kinnear is willing to compromise and back Pardew with transfers. Although the story does suggest that Kinnear is keen on Tomkins himself.

James Tomkins has been linked with Newcastle for the past couple of windows, but with the defender putting pen to paper on a new deal at West Ham last season negotiations could prove to be tricky. The paper is quoting that a fee of around £5 million would be needed to secure the Englishmen. The Hammers have stated several times that they aren’t interested in cashing in on their young defender, as they see him as a real prospect with a big future. Personally having watched James a few times I don’t think he is worth that much and we could get better value elsewhere. He looks a bit shaky and prone to error at times in my opinion.

Darren Bent seems surplus to requirements at current club Aston Villa. The striker joined Villa for massive money from The Mackems following a transfer request in 2011. Bent has played under Pardew before when Alan brought him to Charlton from Ipswich. Bent was in fact a target for Newcastle back when Sir Bobby Robson was in charge, we were linked with the hitman around the same time we brought his former team mate Darren Ambrose to the club.

Bent has been dismissed by several fans for being ‘a former Mackem’. But I would take him if we could get him in on the cheap, he scores goals at Premier League level and would be a useful addition to the squad. It has been reported in recent weeks that Bent himself would welcome a move back to the North East in a bid to resurrect his career. With the World Cup next year Darren will probably believe that if he’s playing and scoring goals he will have every chance of forcing his way back into the England set up.

Meanwhile NUFC.COM reported last night that the club have launched a £10 million bid for an unconfirmed striker. It has been recognized that the club are drastically short of forwards and that Ashley will prioritize a striker over the summer. You would have to assume that a bid of that size isn’t for Darren Bent, but it could very well be French striker Andre-Pierre Gignac. The Marseille man has been linked with Newcastle over the past couple of days.

So what do you think? Who is the mystery striker? Is Tomkins good enough? Is Bent worth a chance?

37 thoughts on “Kinnear To Chase Pardew’s Targets?

  1. Meeting with Carr, speaking to Pardew, talking to Ashley before making a decision. Seems like a person who is in a liaison job doing it properly. Hope so.

    Wouldn’t mind Tomkins and Bent as replacements for Simpson and Shola.


  2. Bent and Tomkins are nothing more than back ups. If Kinnear sold Cisse and bought Bent as our new number 9 I’d wanna shoot him in the face and shit in the wound.


  3. As aussie said yesterday. All is speculation, no quotes. Not only about transfers but about roles. Most laughably of all, yesterday speculation about Ashleys intentions. Why do we read crap that is specifically designed to piss us off, and has no basis in truth.

    When players hold up the shirt I’ll believe it, and then worry about whether they justify the hype or disappointment.


  4. All this talk and speculation on who the TOON should buy leaves me disillusioned as to the commitment of MA to get the right man if MA was as committed as the majority of the 50k+ who attend SJP he would be hell bent on getting the best striker available and in my mind that would be Aubameyang however I’m not going to hold my breath. 🙄 🙄


  5. Good read Mark, Preman pretty much sums up how I feel about it all, though Jay makes good points too :mrgreen:
    Anyway how do the Mirror know what was said in a phone conversation, surely the press wouldn’t stoop so low as to phone tap would they? 😯
    …and finally, taking anything Joe “publicly states” as gospel would be almost as bad as taking press articles as gospel imo 😉


  6. I’m sure Pards hasn’t spoken to a soul at the club since Jokey arrived.

    He’ll be too busy parading around the swimming pool in Marbella in his speedo’s howling at Jokey & Mikey flapping about players. 😆

    “Mikey, Pards has his phone permanently on answering machine!” 😯


  7. As for the mystery striker , if its like bids in the past its maybe a £15 – 18 mil striker and they have put their 1st and final offer in 😆
    On Bent and Thomkins they would be good back up options but I wouldnt be surprised if they were our No1 choices


  8. Well ,I hope to see a little more ambition than Bent & Tomkins . Something tells me it’s gonna take more than them two to turn our fortunes around from last season like.


  9. from the hron

    However, reports in France have credited Newcastle with a £15.2million bid for PEA. The Chronicle understands that while United have asked St Etienne to keep them fully up-to-date this summer..

    so defo not chasing Gignac and Bonny isnt on the cards (or never was) so why should we believe this bullshit about PEA.

    Now Bent and Tomkins 🙄 dear me, I hope not although Tomkins would mainly be on the bench I suppose hes a good backup if Willo leaves. Is he any better than Willo tho?


  10. Well to me we wouldn’t get Tomkins for 5 mill, he ain’t great, but would we sell Taylor for 5 million? Both about same level IMO.

    PEA is not coming to us, we were warned by the chron that we won’t get into a bidding war for players yet, according the chron, he is our only target?

    Gameiro? Gervinho? De Jong? Maiga?

    We’ve put our eggs in one basket and ended up with nothing too many times!

    I wonder if the club is going to address the fact we need a LW? Maybe CAM? We certainly need one of those positions filling.

    Why do we need a CB?

    Typical NUFC.

    I’ll be gutted if we get Bent, him and Cisse would be terrible.


  11. For me Bent and tomkins wouldnt be the worst ideas. Pardew obviously knows and rates them, We need to bring in competition for Cisse and Tomkins can cover centre half, fullback and as a holding player and probably replace Willo if/when he leaves and maybe Perch who leicester were apparantly bidding for the other day.

    Both would be decent signings but we still need someone to slot in wide left of the front three who could chip in with double figures. If aubameyangs off to russia then we need to find someone similar…


  12. It’s almost like the press are linking us with players we don’t like just to upset us…. 😎


  13. for fk sake not bent or tomkins,bent couldnt even get a game when villa were struggling at the bottom,might please sharpy like,please no


  14. Ice, i saw that you blamed me for you picking on Richie last night. 😕
    It’s a bit disapointing to read that, you will never see me resorting to that kind of behavior 😉


  15. I can’t see Cisse & Bent forming a partnership. Are they not too similar in style.

    Dave, I hope that’s the case that he’s brought in as another option but not our only purchase regarding strikers.


  16. Troy I agree 100%. I can’t see Bent forming a partnership with anyone. He has no skill and is just a poacher. We have Cisse, a far better player, for that. We need someone clever, with real skill who’ll also score a few. Apparently to get PEA who I really like the look of we’ll have to outbid Anzi. Why anyone would want to go to the frozen wastes up there I’ve no idea. PL is best league and it’s not like even we would pay peanuts.

    Whatever, NO Bent!!


  17. Troy I don’t know about you but that sherbet’s getting a little flat as time passes. JFK’s portacabin is almost finished . . .


  18. AMF it was you where i picked up that little sneak and what a aussie can do!!,it looks like you lot think your rags speak the truth at all times poor canny lass getting her butt kicked out of office best PM you have had in a long time,well i suppose your used to second best 😀 😀 😀


  19. GEORGIO I second that 100% mate its going from bad to worse,Troy does make some good points “sometimes” 😀 😀


  20. @Ice

    Cheers fella, I research the Internet and copy other people’s views and post them on here, hoping they strike a chord once in a while. 😉


  21. @Georgio

    I’ve just read on newsnow that Jokey is going to travel with the squad for all the pre-season games. 😯

    I suppose that’s so the team get used to him being on the bus when he eventually becomes manager. 😆

    Pards must have stardust saliva in his mouth every time he thinks about Jokey & Mikey.

    (Can you remember the stardust sherbet that used to crackle and explode on your tongue?)


  22. When he dust settles on all the internal politics AP will be back at his desk and JFK will announce AP’s the main man and we’ve got his two targets Bent and Tomkins. That’s it for the summer spend, after all we bought 5 players just 6 months ago.

    Most likely of all scenarios and utterly depressing!


  23. The question is where do we want to finish in the PL and what do we want to win? Answer these (realistically) and then we should know what players we need in.

    For me we should be aiming for top 7 and winning a cup so that should be two strikers and a centre half should do us with none leaving.


  24. Two more bloody good players and we’ll have enough that Pardew’s instructions will go out the window and they’ll just play well the way they want!


  25. Tomkins-no thanks.
    Bent-at a push I would say yes…but he is the wrong type of forward. Unless we sell Cisse..
    Unconfirmed striker-can it not be gignac please?


  26. From the Guardian:
    “The striker’s name is apparently one of two the Newcastle manager Alan Pardew apparently scribbled on the back of an old envelope or beer-mat and handed to Kinnear shortly before heading off on holidays last week. That of the West Ham defender James Tomkins is the other.”


    Ashley is such a skinflint he can’t even bring himself to buy Pardew a notepad. No ambition!


  27. @Stuart

    I agree about top 7 and going for a cup.

    But we need more than 2 strikers and a CB. 😯

    Our flanks are woefully short of quality cover as well.


  28. Ha! 😆 I’ve just noticed Aussies digs above at Stavers! 😆

    You can’t be without me for more than a few posts Aussie. 😆 I must be constantly on your mind. 😆

    Aaaaaargh. Thanks mate. 😉


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