115 thoughts on “Taking the positives: Financial Fair Play

  1. Ha! You have been admiring my underkegs Aussie. Tell the truth. 😆

    Grandad Les’ specials. 😆

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  2. excellent read Prem, superbly put together.

    Hey troy u have a canny shape for a fat kid.

    A little concerning seeing a lost blonde peeking thru a door and you coming out of the cupboard with knickers on yer head 🙂

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  3. @Mark

    Prem did a cracking job explaining things. It’s just unfortunate that Begas got the wrong end of the stick. 😆

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  4. M – I’d sell Cabaye to whoever offered the money we want for him – get rid of this new circus.

    DJG – I like that line up mate but I’d like to see him play Vukic behind Cisse and move Marv over to the left in place of Sammy. I think Vukic would be more of a goal threat tbh

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  5. DJG – I wouldn’t be disappointed if they replaced Jonas to be honest. But I think he still offers more than those other players put together to be honest. I we got rid of Willo, Obertan, Gosling and Amalfitano and pooled 40k in wages I’d replace them all with a midfielder who could play centre and right.
    Curtis Good could take Willos place at least til Jan, the new signing would cover the usage of Obertan and Gosling and then we have Vukic would would be ahead of Gosling for me as well.
    The thing is mate we have other squad players who don’t get their chance coz Pardew keeps picking the likes of Obertan who does little to nowt when selected. Pardew likes Willo coz he’s a hoofball CB but we need to change things IMO.
    I’m not in favour of having 4 rubbish players incase of injury or suspension when the young uns could be given a crack at it.
    Sell the 4 for 1 decent player and give the young players a chance if needed – Villa proved last season that its worth putting faith in your younger players rather than depending on the likes of Dunne, Bent and Zog.

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  6. Aha, ok, accountancy never was a strong point of mine 😆 It still means we could add about 20m to the wage bill without using the tv money and still have a healthy profit.

    And given that the cost of buying a player is (what’s the term?) amortised (?) over the period of the contract, there’s room for a few players in without breaking the rules or jeopardising our financial integrity – unless we get relegated of course. But if that happened there’d be mass suicide and there’d be nobody left to care 😆

    So, I’m still struggling with my original question … why is it such a problem? or should it be: where is the problem?

    Try and make the answer simple for me though, I don’t have as big a brain as Troy apparently. 🙄

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  7. @Begas

    😆 I thought you were the brighter of the two of you but it looks like Aussie’s got the wit and the brains. 😆

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  8. Cabaye to Spurs for £10m + Gylfi Sigurdsson, then use the £10m to buy either Ayew, Gomis or my preferred choice Finnbogason. That would give us this:

    ——————- Krul —————
    Debuchy – Colo – MYM – Santon
    ——— Sissoko — Anita ———-
    —- HBA — Marveaux — Sigurdsson
    —– forward or your choice —–

    Forward of Cisse, Remy or whoever we buy that £10m.
    I’d be well happy with that like.

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  9. Dave – I can live in hope can’t I?!.
    Even if we didn’t spend that £10m but added Sigurdsson to the team behind Cisse or Remy, I still think that would be an improvement and would create us chances and goals.

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  10. Great article, really good. but one question left is that if we can only spend say 4m of TV money on wages, and haven’t used it to fund players, where will the rest of the increased TV money go? Surely into Ashley’s pocket? Or am I missing something…..

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  11. Dave and Sharpy – I think the fact that we are waiting till he leaves, we are not spending anything – shambles – everyone knows he wants to go so why not do things properly for a change?

    Like any decent club would do.

    We are going nowhere with these new regulations then.

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  12. doesnt matter who we sell as we wont invest and if we do invest it still doesnt matter as Pardew is our manager 🙁

    get kinnear in 😛

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  13. Good read Prem thanks for this. I see some of the good in what is being done but first and foremost we need to survive and that is by no means certain this season. I also don’t really believe the January thing was to inflate the wages-it’s definitely good that we managed it, but I don’t think Mikey had it planned or we would have kept it up when we could. Plus, I doubt it went up by much- Ba out =50-55k pw probably paid for Deb and Goof wages, Mbiwa and Sissoko wouldn’t be on more than 40k each imo. Haidara probably on about 15.

    We could fiddle but we won’t, we’ll sell Cabs and use Anita as his replacement (which I’m not that worried about tbh) but I do worry that the funds won’t be reinvested. I’m also not sure Arsenal will raise their bid ,so we need PSG to come in with 20mil and take the surrender monkey off our hands.

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  14. Very fine article Premand. I would agree that we are financially well run but for football we are terribly run and getting worse. If we could finish top of the best of the rest that would be quite a good achievement. But what are our chances of doing that? And how long will the supporters continue to pay out good money to watch dross? The club is being run completely unrealistically because the money flow will not continue unless our quality of play rises dramatically. I can’t see it happening no matter how reasonable the finances look right now.

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  15. I would add that the quality of our squad is impossible to assess properly with Pardew running things. That doesn’t mean bring in another nitwit friend to replace him Mike by the way. That means bring in a highly qualified manager and listen to what he says. Give him a reasonable contract for 2-3 M pounds a year for 3 years and challenge him to get the best out of the club. Expect a finish around 8th-12th for the first season but with rising expectations given reasonable expenditures using the new manager’s and Carr’s advice. You can also sack Joe by the way to save a bit of dosh. 😆

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  16. Cabaye has put himself into a very difficult position in my view. He hasn’t put himself in the shop window by playing well for us. Instead he’s chosen to hide and refuse to play. What does that tell other clubs about him? That he quits when the going gets tough. Will Arsenal actually fork out 20M for him under these circumstances? I doubt it. So what happens if someone doesn’t sweeten their bid? Are we stuck with this useless lump and will he actually be able to come back into the squad and play decent football? Big questions with no clear answers right now.

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  17. Some decent results for Prem teams in cup ties today. Norwich scored 6 and Southampton 5. Will we get a few tomorrow? Let’s hope so. The team needs confidence in attack as much as anything right now.

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  18. Where is everyone today? You must all be as busy as me. 😆 I’m still waiting for some positive news in the transfer front. We’re running out of time Joe.

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  19. Joe getting a transfer over the line would be a miracle imo. He seems pretty retarded as Director of Football if you ask me ? I can’t really tale who is doing the worst job at Newcastle these days. I don’t think the club is prepared for this season ? We need a descent winger and a striker but I bet we get sweet F-A thanks to Joe and Mike. Why haven’t we done anything this window, seriously ? This will be the ultimate test staying in a league improving all the time.

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  20. Is Joe seriously delusional saying 16 players have been signed.
    Perch, Harper, Simpson, Ba, Lovenkrand, Guthrie, Barton, Nolan, Best have I missed anyone ?

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  21. Ba, Cabaye, Sissoko, Gouffran, Ben Arfa (permanent deal concluded), Haidara, Kemen, Cisse, Marveaux, Stephen Ireland, Rob Elliot, Santon, Abeid, Mbiwa, Good, Mbabu, Remy, Obertan, Kuqi

    That makes 19 but to be fair Mbabu, Kemen and Good are youth players.

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  22. Yes Joe didn’t mention the players who’ve gone out STEM mate, just players who came in. Overall it’s hard to say whether we’re any stronger than we were 2 years ago now because of Pardew. On paper we look a stronger side but that’s about it. If Cabaye does go it means Ba, Cabaye, Enrique, Barton, Nolan, and Carroll who are first teamers in most squads (not sure about Barton but give him some credit for his last season here) have left us. And they provided plenty of dosh so Mike hasn’t spent anywhere near 60M pounds net, which is all that matters. In fact he will have made money, especially if they get somewhere around 20M for Cabaye. If they get 20M for Cabaye then that’s 55M from just him and Carroll! It’s all bollocks as usual from Joe STEM. Nobody is being fooled anymore (if they ever were).

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  23. I forgot Alan Smith aswell G2. It’s just the same amount gone out the door as in. Ashley made 35 million on Carole, 7.5 on Ba 4 Nolan 20 Cabaye if he leaves. He hasn’t spent 60 in two years. 17 in janaury 10 on cisse which is 3 million over the Carole sale. There’s no truth in what Joe says

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  24. Oh it’s definitely outweighed and the SQUAD is weaker even if we potentially have a stronger team.

    Ba, Barton, Nolan, Carroll, Enrique, Harper, Simpson, LuaLua, Xisco, Routledge, Ranger, Guthrie, Lovenkrands, Smith, Perch. That’s just players in contention for first team places not those youngsters such as Kadar and Moyo who were given a big billing and never lived up.

    So that makes 15 out.

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  25. Spot on STEM and SJP14. It’s all bollocks from Joe. We have spent very little over Mike’s 6 years in terms of players. We are probably in the bottom 5 on net spending for players in fact. It’s more of the same from the 3 stooges. There is no intention to build a strong squad and try for Europe again. The only intention is to make money for Ashley. Scum always floats to the top so you can see it. It’s showing now and has been for quite a while. The only real way out of this is a new owner with some proper values. Pride in the team, pride in the city, a desire to have the team win something.

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  26. G2 Why on gods earth doesn’t Alan say something ? If he gets sacked it’s a bonus for him. Joe and Ashley have been trying to force him out behind the scenes. Telling us they spent 60 million on players is false information for a start. Lying to the fans that everything’s rosie between Joe and Alan. He has almost a completely different squad. To much to fast and the team has lost it’s identity in two years. Barton, Nolan, Enrique, Carole, Ba, Xisko, Best, Harper, Perch, Simpson, Smith, Guthrie, Lovenkrand that’s way to many changes mate. Ok Smith, Xisko are past it but it’s not the point i’m trying to make. This amateur owner Ashley sales our most experienced player for a quick buck. Get’s younger inexperienced players in that take two years to adapt. It sounds good on paper but relegation from to many changes is destroying this club

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  27. G2 and SJP14 I really fear relegation but I can see it happening. I will still support the club but it’s the only way to get rid of Ashley. I really hope he sales before and relegation doesn’t happen

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  28. Have to agree with you STEM mate. There is still time to do something in this window but if Cabaye goes will he be replaced properly. We really need a very good ACM to supply Remy and Cisse. I like Anita but he may not be enough. Marveaux is very good in patches as well but it’s still not enough. Bring in a very good winger as well. We’re weak attacking on the right. Ben Arfa is not a true right winger, he should be in behind the strikers. We’ve all said these things over and over but Ashley is determined not to improve further after spending in January.

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