There is a lot of debate about which is the “best” derby. The Glasgow derby, the Manchester derby, Merseyside derby and so on. The short answer is, to each fan of each club, their own derby is the most important and this one is ours.
Meetings have gotten a bit spicy in recent years and this one will be no different. The 3-0 defeat engineered by short-term Mackem manager Paulo Di Canio is still fresh in the mind and payback needs to be given. Sunderland may be rooted to the bottom of the table and their form may read like a small Welsh village at the moment (LLLWLL) but this is a local derby and to coin a cliche, form really does go out of the window. Put simply it is whoever wants it more on the day, and tomorrow it simply must be us who wants it more.
Newcastle:
Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa will miss out as he serves a one-game suspension following on from his sending off against Liverpool last week. Massadio Haidara will also miss out despite having played an hour for the reserves during the week while Steven Taylor is technically available once more despite lacking in match fitness. Ryan Taylor remains sidelined.
The big question mark though surrounds Fabricio Coloccini. The Argentine defender suffered a groin injury whilst on international duty and it had been reported that he could be out for around eight weeks. However subsequent reports suggest that he may indeed be available for tomorrow after recovering quicker than anticipated. If he isn’t available then Paul Dummett could be handed a first Premier League start.
Sunderland:
New manager Gus Poyet will assess the fitness of Wes Brown ahead of the match. The former Manchester United defender has not kicked a competitive ball for the Mackems since January 2012 following injury problems but he has reportedly recovered from a calf problem sustained during pre-season. Loan signing Ki Sung-Yeung will return after missing out against his parent club last weekend.
Previously…
The last game between the two of us ended 3-0 to them with the preceding game on the dark side yielding a 1-1 draw courtesy of an early goal from Yohan Cabaye.
On Wearside Sunderland have the edge having won on 23 occasions compared to 20 for United with 26 draws being played out. On Tyneside it is United who have the edge having won 31 times compared to Sunderland’s 20 victories with 18 draws making up the numbers.
Overall 138 matches have been played with Newcastle winning 51 times, Sunderland 43 times with 44 draws making up the rest.
Match stats and facts…
Sunderland have not recorded successive wins against Newcastle for 46 years.
A win for United would see us record back-to-back away victories for the first time since April 2012.
The 22 Premier League matches between these sides have produced nine Newcastle wins, nine draws and four Sunderland victories.
Sunderland have won just two of their last 22 league matches.
Final thought…
All the evidence points towards a United win on paper, but the problem is that football isn’t played on paper. I never view the away derby as a “must win” game. Sure it would be nice to repay the favour of the tail end of last season on their own doorstep but the most important thing for me is that we must not lose.
As I said in the very first line, I love to hate the derby. No other match fills me with excitement, anticipation, dread or worry as much as this one but we’re in the final few hours before kick-off now so we haven’t got long to wait.
Howay the lads!
Date: Sunday, 27th October, 2013
Time: 1:30pm
Venue: Stadium of *****
Thanks Toonsy, I’m feeling sick already, just want it done with now tbh.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Arteta red carded, interesting game now
KIMTOON(Quote)
Venue: Stadium of *****
😆 Nice one Toonsy.
Andymag(Quote)
bloody hell Palace should be level great shot well saved
KIMTOON(Quote)
Every time the derby comes around I see this photo and chuckle. Can anybody tell me the details on the game? Is it a pic from the 5-1 a few years ago?
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
Good read Toonsy, feckin hate derbies me like.
FSOTC…Defo not the 5-1, 96/97 I think.
richietoon(Quote)
So should we stick with the same team with the exception of MYM?
I feel Sissoko hasn’t done enough so he should be replaced with Anita.
KK(Quote)
tis a funny old game at times I cant wait for it then at other times I dread it, but if we play the way I know we can I have no worries 😀 , but then again sometimes we seem to play the other way that I know we can 😕 😈
Big Dave(Quote)
yes, lets not have a yeh but no but yeh game Dave.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim 😆 😉 I say we should go all out 100% and give them a right battering
Big Dave(Quote)
You won’t get me arguing with that Dave.
KIMTOON(Quote)
I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that photo now – but it’s still makes me laugh out loud!!
Sharpy17(Quote)
Totally agree BD. Go out and get the job done by HT.
We can do it. The Lads just have to believe in themselves.
Show no mercy and get our GD sorted out.
Cisse to score aswell. 😆
HOWAY THE LADS
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
**** me Southampton will go third tonight with another 3 points.
already 1-0 up.
18 points from 9 matches. Bloody marvellous. 👿
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I see the dippers scored a bagfull today, makes our achievement last week look all the better considering the baggies have one of the best defensive records this season and had 11 on the pitch 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
BB, I can’t stand the Saints ever since we got thrashed by them when I was on holiday and watching the game in a clubhouse full of saints fans . There was two little lads 9 or 10 ish looked like mini proclaimers and they were ripping the **** out of the Toon something rotten ,closest I ever came to thumping a child 👿 They put 5 past us that day the &*%$%.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim – I’d be happy with a similar performance level against the scum that we put in against the dippers tbh. If we do that we certainly won’t loose the game. Anything more than a 0-1 result is a bonus for me then like
Sharpy17(Quote)
@16 , 4 not 5 🙄 😳
KIMTOON(Quote)
Just watched Shalke 04 2 Borussia Dortmund 3. Now THAT is a radgy derby, take a look at the crowd, they are ALL up for it, all 60,000 😯 😯
We can only dream of an atmosphere like that at an English game.
Munich Mag(Quote)
Bloody hell it’s getting pretty blowy here now, not hard to believe we have winds of 80 mph expected by tomorrow pm. 🙁
KIMTOON(Quote)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHivjBhRicQ
Rodzilla(Quote)
FSOTC, I think it may be from the ‘Let’s all laugh at Sunderland’ Mag ‘Special Edition’ from a good few years back when they broke all records for being ****.
Rodzilla(Quote)
..hahahaha.
A picture tells a thousand words.
What was Ron Jeremy thinking. 😯
Rodzilla(Quote)
…smart t-short, exit stage left like.
Nice use of horizontal wild berries.
Rodzilla(Quote)
6 nowt
Rodzilla(Quote)
I was watching a game on telly yesterday (Central Coast Mariners v Adelaide United). CCM were playing in pink – for fundraising purposes – and it made me remember the Footbal Pink from my kiddie days. I remember the young lad (Josh, his name was – went to our school) who’d walk down the street shouting Foot-ball feeee-naaal only hours after the games on Saturday.
Does that still happen, I wondered.
Looking forward to the derby. Always have, always will. I remember seeing one on a very wet day, the pitch like a mud patch, Ron McGarry scoring a penalty. I was 9 or 10 years old.
Or did I see it on telly? Whatever. Sticks in the memory.
Went to one at Roker Park once as well. A draw I think. Pop Robson I think scored. Got into a fight afterwards on the way to the station – Seaburn was it? Lost my scarf but recall sticking a Doc Martins into the face of one of the guys – hopefully it was one of their guys 🙄 . God, I was only 14 then.
Memories. Some I could do without.
brisvegas(Quote)
I find it hard to concentrate on anything else on derby day. That’s a bit of a problem. I’m up, awake and doing things and there’s still more than 12 hours to kick off. What am I going to do to while away the hours?
I guess I could watch Perth Glory later today – that’ll be a good way to numb the brain for a couple of hours. 😉
brisvegas(Quote)
Or I could do a Rodzilla
brisvegas(Quote)
Are we there yet?
brisvegas(Quote)
Bris – Nah The Pink and stuff like that is pretty much long gone. Digital age now my friend 🙂
toonsy(Quote)
Ah The Pink, aye they used to rush it out, he used to get to “wor papershop”(actually a wooden hut) by 6pm on Saturday evening full of mistake 😆 a must read though….happy days
…now let’s get into these filthy, web fingered, inbred, “me mam’s me dad’s sister”, scum sucking, pondlife 😈 😈
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f85c2MnT6E0
richietoon(Quote)
I used to sell the pink as a kid, start at train station then go into bars to sell it to the drunks even though we were told not to and often got chased out – nice little earner 🙂
SteveP(Quote)
Used to love waiting around in the town for The Pink coming out after a home game, then walking home reading about the game as it happened. Brilliant times, but long gone.
Munich Mag(Quote)
Gotta love the pink!
Glory won, so will theToon! Had a solid round of golf today so all the moons and stars are aligning! Nothing can stop us now! 😯
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie, that’s the spirit 😀
Feeling nervous now and kick off collides with my domestic duties ( feeding a roast to the clan 🙄 ) will be fleeting visits on here today, probs only popping on to celebrate a goal or moan if we concede .
KIMTOON(Quote)
Do you think they’d settle for KFC, just this once 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Go for kfc Kim, you will need your head in the game.. that roast will have to wait!
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Bring back the standing areas I say 🙂
Just goes to show what can be achieved with a bit of “choreography” as they call it here in Germany…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aht_zVymRW4
Wouldn’t like to be one of the Toon Stewards when these lads come to town 🙂
Munich Mag(Quote)
Aussie ,I wish, but the world comes to an end if I don’t dish up a roast for my lot 😆 . Never mind luckily I can do much of it in advance , the wonder of the microwave never fails to amaze. Just hope the team are cooking on gas today 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
MM,wow, cool clip.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Reet lads and lasses, off to the Hoffbräuhaus to meet the rest of the Mags. Should be a canny turn out today, 10 bodies, not bad 🙂
Enjoy the game and may the best team win (as long as it’s us !).
2-4 Toon, you heard it here first 🙂
Howay !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Munich Mag(Quote)
I just hate these games!
Stuart79(Quote)
Doubt that I’m even going to watch it. Maybe get the first half on a stream before I have to go out.
Premandup(Quote)
Hopefully it will all be over by then 3-0 up.
Premandup(Quote)
Well lads and lasses derby day time for us too undo the 3-0 , got a feeling we will win big today . Whats the weather like that side of the North sea ,its blowing a gale this side .
Axel(Quote)