Keeping hold of the family jewels.

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Transfer madness will soon be upon us and there will doubtless be endless speculation about our more talented players. Ayoze Perez has been linked with both Manchester united and Arsenal in the last few weeks, such has been his eye catching displays.

The player himself has now come out and spoken about the speculation and an article by Miles Starforth yesterday states, “When asked if he thought he could make another move soon, Perez told Diario De Avisos: “It would be a mistake to start thinking that now; it is too early. I’ve been at Newcastle for a few months and am very happy. I continue to work as usual and am in no rush. I just think about helping the team and returning all the trust the club has given me.” Reassuring words there from our young starlet, but as ever money talks and it’s always a worry if a big offer comes in that the club will sell, before we’ve even had the chance to really enjoy his displays. You could say the same for Sissoko and Janmaat too, with both catching the eye of the bigger clubs, the latter being linked with Liverpool just yesterday.

I’m fairly certain if we’d seen more of young Aarrons this season he’d be on the most wanted list too, the vultures have already had a sneak peek at him in his limited showing. It’s now completely transparent how the club operate as they confirmed in the latest fans forum minutes that they don’t envisge our young talents seeing us as their only club. But the reality is, that it’s better for the club if they desire to use us as a stepping stone as it’s profits first, football second, of that there can be no doubt now in my opinion.

Whilst this transfer policy benefits the clubs coffers it does little to effect matters on the pitch. For every Sissoko, Perez or Janmaat you sell, you simply must replace with their equal in order to maintain and even progress in the premier league. It seems to me that this is where the plan falls down as we are a bit hit and miss with the players Carr unearths and we do seem to collect a few terminal crocks along the way as well.

Rather than let our better players go all the time I would like to see us hang on to some of them for a few seasons so we can enjoy them and the young fans can develop a bond with their favourite player. Every young football fan needs their hero but it’s not much fun when they aren’t around too long. Why would you bother getting a name put on the shirt? What’s the point given the cost of a shirt nowadays?

In the end most of us would of had posters of players we idolised on our bedroom walls and they were mostly around long enough to foster a bond with, but it is a rare thing nowadays with the players that grace St. James Park. I feel really sad for the young fans just starting to go to St James Park as they won’t get the pleasure of having the heroes a lot of us had in days gone by. Should they decide to put up a poster on the bedroom wall of their preferred player, unlike a lot of our heroes, I would hazard a guess said player won’t be on the wall for more than one season.
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140 thoughts on “Keeping hold of the family jewels.”

  2. Bloody spot on Kim mores the shame,thing is about the shirts I think parents do give to kids what they want and would buy their kids another shirt with every “new” player and the fat git knows it

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  3. Kim just thinking about your last bit about the posters, one of the kits my wee Lad got had Carrolls name and number on it and he was so proud, but with in a couple of months he was sold, and my wee Lad was gutted, needless to say he wouldn’t wear it again as lots of his mates were dipper fans.
    Then when the next new kit came out we got him it and when I asked him who’s name did he want on it as his favs were Saylor and Joey B , but he said could he get his own name as ” there is no point getting their name as we’ll just sell them again “.
    That for me is one of the problems the club have with the younger fans, younguns always like to have their fav players but when they get sold every season or 2 then they start to think what is the point.

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  5. Thanks lads, Yeah Dave it’s very sad isn’t it. I had Shearer on loads of shirts for Lewis but now I wouldn’t bother. Not that I buy Wonga shirts and that’s another debate altogether 😉

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  7. Wonder if we see one or both of the players we signed from Forrest before the end of the season as the CCC finish and we have 3 games still to go seeing they are our players on loan

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  8. Kim – good article again missus, you’ve really got the nak of this 😉

    I agree in part, but I think players at NUFC have been as much a driving force to their transfers than the club have recently. I’m thinking of Cabaye & Debuchy in particular – and Sissoko has made sure he’s placed himself firmly in the shop window.

    It’s funny you should mention names on the back of shirts though coz my cousins young un gets a home & away kit each season – he had Ba & Ben Arfa two seasons ago – last season he had Cabaye & Debuchy and this season he got Cisse & Sissoko. He’s already said he wants Perez next season and he’s torn between Janmaat and Cabella for the other – but with there being a chance that Perez & Janmaat not being here I don’t think my cousin is in any great hurry to 🙄 🙁

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  9. Sharpy, Tell him to get his own name on the back cause there’s more chance of him gracing SJP longer than any player we’ll sign 😉

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  10. The club has reached a level of boredom that Ashley must find extremely satisfactory. Like his sex life I would imagine.

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  11. With our beautifully crafted -11 goal difference and our tremendous lack of ambition at the top it must be terrifically exciting to play for the club these days. Like watching paint dry while pruning the toenails. Magnificent job Ashley!

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  12. Johnny C. is planning on using his tremendously exciting 5-5-0 formation tomorrow. It’s the style of football Ashley loves best. Well done Johnny C. and make sure to praise Mike for his support after the match. Beautiful.

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  13. Kim – my cousins been trying that for years, but the bairn has told me he won’t coz he thinks it’s his dad’s way of trying to buy him just one top per season 😆

    I do wonder if this TV money might actually mean our players are less likely to be sold – sounds weird but I think the likes of Arsenal, Manchesters and Chelsea will be looking at higher profile players. Our players would be seen by those teams as squad players – and as such, their valuation of our players will be a lot less than ours.
    That’s my hope anyway 😛

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  14. The transient nature of a footballer’s career is one that affects every club, not just Newcastle. So I’d disagree that it reflects much on the club. The stories about kits with players names on the back are similar stories to those told even by Brisbane Roar fans.

    That’s just how football operates now. It’s been that way since the rise of agents and the big paydays that have flowed into the game. It was all so different back in the day. But those days have all but gone from the game as a whole.

    In fact some of the gripes I read about Ashley I think are really expressions of frustration at the way money has come to dominate the game.

    It’s a fact of life these days, at just about every football club. It’s the way we pay for progress.

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  15. Sharpy ,that’s what I can never understand mate, clearly as good as some of our players have been/are, few are CL standard and there are bigger better players out there to buy. So why come in for ours? It’s like the big clubs can’t stand the thought of so called smaller clubs having any talent on their books and so snap them up just to sit them on the bench . I know Debbie starts for Arsenal but Cabaye isn’t pulling up many trees for PSG is he? Cabs was idolised here and he still tweets about us all the time, he should of hung about really, same with Remy and Ba.

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  16. Bris, fair comments and you are probably right up to a point, but I still think we as a club sell our better players much quicker than other clubs.

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  18. Kim, I’m sure a case could be made to show that there are many clubs that sell on their best players after a short stay. And probably those that stay mainly stay because a bigger club hasn’t shown an interest.

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  19. Kim – the main one was Cabaye. I don’t understand why PSG paid £19m for him when had they waited until this summer he would have cost around £5m :???:. From that view it was good business by NUFC I reckon.
    I think the likes of Sissoko & Janmaat are on pretty long contracts anyway – as is Perez, but I would offer him a pay rise based off what he has produced this season.

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  21. Kim toon

    If you look back at some of comments about Cabaye you would see some of us realised he was good for the toon but highlighted many overrated him.

    You might find those were the same people who predicted Ashley would only produce mediocrity and created the imaginary Reality Train and the same few who argued against the Pardew bashers, emphasising that he would be replaced by another puppet so it was pointless calling for his head.
    Call me old fashioned but I look at the vast majority on here and think, wake up, smell the coffee and thank goodness I’m not Australian, I don’t live on Chicago, I don’t wear Pedro’s boots and my name isn’t something bland like Mark.

    Yours sincerely

    Sharpy.

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  22. Troysta: the perm will be a really good idea. Sometimes people wouldn’t have realised you are an idiot until you open your mouth. With the perm they can see you coming and either avoid you or know what they are in for.

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  23. How about dying it orange or blue as well, and having a honky honk horn thingy and riding a tiny bike?

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  25. Me Mam sends me the NUFC calendar every year. Williamson is on the front cover AND the “poster boy” for March.

    That’s it. I give in. I am going to buy a Newcastle top with “Williamson” on the back, a big pound sign on the front alongside a picture of Troysta in his new perm as the club badge.

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  26. Eric 😆 I have it too above my pc and when I turned over to march I had a mini breakdown.

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  27. its a myth that jabba will sell when a decent offer comes in for our players.
    he turned down 25 mill for the judas.
    if you look back at the top players who have been sold by jabba,1 was crazy money and no club would turn it down,the other didnt want to be here and went on strike.

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  28. I’m sorry but to say the players wanted to go so we let them is a pathetic, weasel weak excuse! Tell me a player who doesn’t have their head turned occasionally? But when they don’t get their move they get over it. With the attitude of selling ‘family Jewels’ because they express a desire to leave it means we will never build anything worth having at the club. All it takes is a couple of seasons of being strong, keeping hold of the best players and building. Spurs did it with Modric and Bale and then the next season they ended up in the CL. They sold them eventually, but that’s because they couksnt keep in the CL the next season. It didn’t wffect the form of the players and the only effect it had on their value was to increase it.

    Can never build anything if we keep selling the foundations every season.

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  29. And I am just reading some comments on here and I do wonder if some are Green Party members who’ve had a little too much of the Green stuff… 😕

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  31. some people on here have there own agenda and dont look at the facts,and try to ram there twisted bullshit down others necks.jog on daft lads we are in great shape under ashley be happy. 😆

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  32. Nice thread Kim! However I can’t imagine any of our players being wanted by the top 6 these days. Janmaat maybe, to maybe Liverpool where Johnson seems to have gone over the top. Sissoko has been a mixed bunch this season, 2 or 3 top games and mediocre the rest. PSG or Arsenal won’t be interested. Perez needs more time. The rest? I don’t even want them.

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  37. Stu 😆 They are playing the worst team in the league mate, Percy want’s shooting if he can’t beat that shower.

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  38. Kimtoon, we all know Stuart79 has a love-in with Pardew. One of the greatest ever toon managers. 😆

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  41. stu,ch won the championship and got us promoted,better than anything percy clueless did for us.we would still be in the championship if it was percy.

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  42. So Abied out for up to 3 weeks with a thigh injury 🙄 Why are all our guys seemingly made of glass 👿 All the time Abied was playing in Greece I don’t think he had a single injury.

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  45. kim its gone on for years at the toon,we seem to get more players injured in training than out else,it has to be the pitches they train on.

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  47. Hitman, I thought they had installed better heated pitches 😕 The weather must play a part I reckon. And there has to be questions over our training techniques now.

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  50. Hitman – I was talking about PL. Anybody could have got that squad promoted.

    Since Pardew left we have played 10 and won 2 and Palace have won 5. Think that says everything…

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  52. that says nothing,all teams get a lift from a new man coming in,and we are still playing the percy way,the team have welll and trully been pardewd..
    just dont get this percy love,he was ***** and the facts and stats show it.

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  53. Hitman – There’s been a clear and concise dip in our performances and results since he left. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact.

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  57. Kimtoon @42: That’s probably Abeid out for the season 🙂 When he had the broken toe the club said it was a 10 day thing and we both said that in our experience broken bones take 6-8 weeks to heal. He was out for about 10 weeks.

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  58. Stuart: if Carver is even more ***** than Pardew then that is another reason we should sack him and the rest of the coaches. Pards had us playing awful football that was painful to watch. If he has a honeymoon period at Palace then good for him. His track record has shown that he goes on winning AND losing streaks. He has been sacked by every team he has managed except us, and God knows how he survived here when we went into one of his death spirals. I think the stat is that we lost by 3 or more goals 24 times during his tenure. It was probably partially Mr. Ugly’s (Carver) fault.

    Saying that, we will probably stuff Everton and it will be scones with strawberry jam and clotted cream for tea.

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  60. Prediction – mackems, Hull finish bottom two of the league.

    Only one of QPR, Burnley or Leicester to go down.

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  61. Georgio – Fergie with Wenger and Mourinho as assistants wouldn’t have us achieving anything under the current regime. Think over the last few years we have spent less than any other club who has been in the PL the same amount of time as us and we’ve also sold our best players consistently. To me staying up with them resources is over achieving.

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  62. Bloody Villa, they’ll survive YET again and probably go on and win the bloody FA cup the *****. 👿 👿

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  63. stu where do you think we should be in the league,and why.
    way i see it we are a mid table club nothing more.
    fans neeed to look at our history not just the good bits.

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  65. Hitman, And they told us they had a great manager 😆 fickle lot us footie fans. Sounds like Percy got off lightly, should thank his lucky stars he didn’t manage the unwashed 😉

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  67. The bottom half of the Prem is a disaster really. We fit right in nicely. Ten poor teams. Sunderland is laughable but so are many others. It’s a complete mess nowadays. Too much money at the top and too much incompetence in the bottom ten.

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  68. Sad waste of time to watch the bottom 10 now. Some of the football is pathetic. Half of the wingers (including ours) couldn’t cross a ball to save their lives. Sad sack defenses (ours being one of the worst).

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  69. Everton, Arsenal, mackems, Liverpool, Spurs next for us. How many points? A draw against the mackems and Everton possibly? Two points from 15? Typical type of form for us in the second half of the season. Dismal but not enough to relegate us? Yawn.

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  70. I would rather have a group of Newcastle owners and play hard in the Championship than be a plaything for Ashley.

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  71. Alright Stuart: we may have spent very little but we got either very lucky or very smart with some signings. Demba Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Cisse, Debuchy, ben Arfa, Janmaat, Sissoko, Haidara, Cabella are all amazingly talented players we got on the cheap. People go on about net spend and us being very low on that but that is because a couple of teams paid us over the odds for players leaving. Most mid-table teams (and that’s what we are) rarely pay more than 10 million for a player.

    Very few of our players have been busts. I think the management and coaching in the past couple of years stifled some of the talent we had and that was mainly due to Carver and Pardew. And Pardew also fell out with a few players who were then never given a chance. This hasn’t been given enough time to work itself out at Palace yet. He hasn’t developed his favourites and ostracized others to create disharmony. He will do it though. The man has an ego the size of the Sun and this inevitably will lead to discord in his teams. It happened everywhere he has gone.

    What I get mad about at NUFC is that there are obvious fixes that should be implemented but aren’t. The need for a centre forward and centre back are plain to see. A blind man with a mole as a guide dog (guide mole) can see it and yet fatty, for whatever reason, holds back. It gets infuriating sometimes watching NUFC when you know a couple of things would make life a lot better.

    I don’t expect top four. I want a better blend of football and for ownership and management to do the fucking obvious now and again like find a fit replacement for Williamson and a backup for a striker who is streaky and has screws in his knees.

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  72. I still love the club but feel powerless to change things. Mid table sounds so comfortable but all it does is hide incompetence and lack of proper ownership by Ashley.

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  73. The owner is a greedy disgrace. He would have done the same thing to Rangers but they managed to stop him.

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  74. On Pardew, it is his over-inflated ego that makes him a bad manager. If he was Mourinho, Ferguson or Clough I could live with the massive ego. But he has done nowt, won nowt and it is his way or the highway.

    I think he just rubs me up the wrong way 🙂 Time for a sedative Mr. Sykes, and did you take your blood pressure pills this morning?

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  75. G2: Rangers haven’t stopped Fatty yet. He is playing the long con there and the people he is up against don’t have the financial muscle to stop him if he chooses to outlast them.

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