Sunderland Win This evening Condemns Newcastle back to the Championship

A win for Sunderland on Wednesday against an unpredictable Everton side will confirm Newcastle’s relegation from the top flight and leave the club in turmoil and in need of a drastic overhaul.

The only circumstance in which the Magpies can stay up is if Sunderland hit self-destruct and lose their final two games of the season and Newcastle manage to beat a Tottenham side who seem to have imploded.  In a Premier League season which has seen 5000/1 long shot Leicester City win the title, it still remains a possibility but more than likely, Newcastle will be facing Burton Albion next year.

It will be a sorry end to a dreadful season which has seen some of the most utterly pathetic football from a Newcastle side since our promotion to the top flight over 20 years ago.

Since Kevin Keegan’s Entertainers got promoted, along with Leicester, funnily enough, Newcastle have only been out of the top flight for one season. They bounced back straight away last time; strolling the Championship with over 100 points. Something tells me this time it won’t be so easy to return.

And where there is a glimmer of hope, still in United fans that Sunderland will choke and give us a sniff of survival on the final day, most of us are preparing for life in the second tier of English football for the second time in Mike Ashley’s ownership.

If Rafa Benitez does manage Newcastle to a famous win and Premier League survival on the final weekend, it will most probably follow him feeding the capacity of St. James’ Park with a couple fish after crossing the Tyne via foot.

The question on most fan’s lips is ‘Will Rafa stay should we go down?’ The answer, as unpopular as it may be, is probably not. For one; why would he want to exactly? He will have no problem at all getting another top flight job.

The prospect of building something from scratch with Newcastle may have a certain appeal, but can we really expect a man who was in charge of Real Madrid six months ago to lead us out in the Championship? Secondly; Newcastle can’t afford to keep him. A manager of Benitez’s calibre commands a Premier League wage.

Newcastle will have a colossal job trimming their huge wage bill as it is, to offer Benitez a deal to keep him would be way out of character for a Newcastle board who has tried to run the club on the cheap for years. Only recently has money been thrown at the club in a desperate bid to survive. The trouble was, they were so massively out of practice, that they did finally spend millions, they managed to squander most of it.

But we will leave talk of next season for another day. For now, Newcastle are still in the Premiership and still have a chance, no matter how small, of staying there. Yes they need a miracle, yes the odds are stacked against them, but one thing we can learn from Leicester is that miracles can happen. Allow yourselves one final bit of hope because all we actually need is for Sunderland to lose twice and Newcastle to win once. That, my friends, is possible.

441 thoughts on “Sunderland Win This evening Condemns Newcastle back to the Championship

  1. When he talks about the people working at the club, basically thats him saying there’s going to be a lot of redundancies for normal workers. Apart from us fans who are all gutted, but can get on with life as normal apart from not seeing top teams, we have to feel for those guys.

    All we need is a statement from the manager. If they were able to get that knocked up in advance, surely they have spoken to Rafa and know what will happen, we need to be told before Sunday

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  2. This feels like being in the electric chair and them using too few volts to kill you. You have still **** yourself though and the top of your head is on fire but you are not dead. They don’t have the money for the meter and have to wait a few days until Rafa leaves and they can get enough current to finish the job.

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  3. Eric Sykes:
    FJ: you are on the wrong blog mate. It was on Ed’s that they were going over the top about Mitro. I had never seen him play before we signed him. I also said about Thauvin that I had watched Marseilles quite a bit and honestly had never noticed him. The one I had noticed ws Gignac who went to Mexico for free FFS and now is back in the National team. Typical Carr. He wants to be the genius and will not go for the safe and sure thing.

    I am sure I saw a lot of “sign him FFS” comments about Mitro on here. I know Ed’s was more eager but this place wasn’t lacking.

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  4. The folly of buying players for the balance sheet and not the team sheet there for all to see.

    Every single thing about the club from the board room to the academy is rotten and suffering from a lack of investment.

    Complete and utter root and branch reform required and that needs a strong manager who will be given the ability to run the club like a football club with the aim of competing not existing.

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  5. Stuart79:
    The folly of buying players for the balance sheet and not the team sheet there for all to see.

    Every single thing about the club from the board room to the academy is rotten and suffering from a lack of investment.

    Complete and utter root and branch reform required and that needs a strong manager who will be given the ability to run the club like a football club with the aim of competing not existing.

    The problem with this is if, somehow, we keep Rafa then that is A LOT to expect him to do. He has to manage us too at the end of the day.

    One guy cannot fix an entire club when he has to do the other work of getting us back up.

    We’re too broken. Look at the likes of Blackpool who have an owner of a similar nature. They are now relegated to League 2. I can see that with us. We cannot be fixed without a lot of money and time. It’s too much to do now.

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  6. FJ: you could be right, but nobody thought it would stop there. I think Mitro is a good player but wasn’t ready and didn’t have anybody to play off him and take the pressure off him. In this market I think he was worth the money but their 3 window plan meant we didn’t get in the experience we needed. By the time of the second window we were desperate and Carr was discredited. It could not have worked out worse for the players we brought in because they were young, new to the league and expected to fix a team that was already in tatters from their Carver experience.

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  7. bit disingenuous Funky J
    We all knew how desperate we were for a quality recognised striker and for the defence to be sorted. We got neither and from that point on we were doomed.
    Seems pointless sniping at other fans who really only wanted the best for our club.
    All the failures lie at ashley and the boards feet.

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  8. FJ: I think they will keep Charnley and should keep him. He has to be relieved of all say on football matters and put where he belongs, back on the finances only. We would have an even bigger meltdown if we have to rejig the finance department along with everything else.

    I think the Academy and U21s can wait for their overhaul as we address promotion. ****, Keegan even got rid of the U21s and we haven’t seen anybody come through recently except Dummett. Put Armstrong, Aarons and MBemba in the first team squad. Make the U21s Cathro’s baby.

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  9. Funky – A decent manager would want to have full control. Moyes, Rafa, Fergie, Wenger, Curbishley ect… They all run their clubs top to bottom.

    The problem is that nobody at NUFC knows how a real football club should be run. They’ve ignored the academy, they’ve run the clubs as a trading company and not a football club. They don’t know how to run it as a football club. We need someone who does.

    Keith Bishop will be having a stroke with all the work he will be doing in the next 7 days! 😯

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  10. Beardsleys Boots:
    bit disingenuous Funky J
    We all knew how desperate we were for a quality recognised striker and for the defence to be sorted. We got neither and from that point on we were doomed.
    Seems pointless sniping at other fans who really only wanted the best for our club.
    All the failures lie at ashley and the boards feet.

    I am not sniping at fans, just said I was playing Devil’s Advocate and pointed out how a lot of the signings were heralded at the time and people felt top 10 was a realistic minimum.

    Everything about this club has been lost this season. Fans and management alike, all gone mental. It was only after about 10 games that fans got clued up.

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  11. I agree that the future looks grim, regardless if Rafa stays or not.
    We are just so broken it will take a number of seasons to put right.
    If we manage to survive in the championship next season, it will be a miracle.
    As for bouncing back up straight away, NO chance imho. No chance.

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  12. Stuart79:
    Funky – A decent manager would want to have full control.Moyes, Rafa, Fergie, Wenger, Curbishley ect… They all run their clubs top to bottom.

    The problem is that nobody at NUFC knows how a real football club should be run.They’ve ignored the academy, they’ve run the clubs as a trading company and not a football club.They don’t know how to run it as a football club.We need someone who does.

    Keith Bishop will be having a stroke with all the work he will be doing in the next 7 days!

    I was more referring to a manager being involved in sorting out the training revamp and all that from your original post. Just seemed like one guy doing the job 10 should do.

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  13. I have seen everybody on here, literally everybody say all season we need experience, we need a proven goalscorer and centre back. As one they all said Colo is past it, why did we give him a new contract? I have read it about 10,000 times and everybody was singing from the same hymn sheet. That didn’t mean you could not simultaneously get excited by some possibly exciting signings like MBemba, Mitro and Gini.

    As Keegan said today we signed for the future and ignored the here and now. That was partly due to their 3 window strategy when they did in the first window what was needed in the 2nd and 3rd.

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  14. Eric – I still cannot believe that in January when we knew and everyone knew we needed a centre half, left back and striker we went and bought three midfielders! How is that explainable?

    How on earth is possible for the board to look at the squad in the summer and not bring in what was required? I mean I really cannot believe how incompetent these decisions have been?

    It looked ridiculous at the time and we knew it so why didn’t the club?

    It looks even more ridiculous now!

    Will they finally learn?

    The funny thing is, if we appointed Rafa we would still have a brighter future than the Mackems! 😮 😀

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  15. Even from the beginning, everybody looked at the schedule and said the first 8 games would be tough. I thought 8 points would have been good going but of course we got 3.

    There was only that ex-pat from China who thought we would be top 8 and probably 6, if not CL. There were days on end when he would come on and his sanity was questioned but in a nice joking way because there was still hope. He disappeared after about 3 games.

    Schteve was even grudgingly accepted, despite his recent record, with an attitude of I don’t want him, wouldn’t have hired him, but lets wait and see and get behind him.

    Most were hopeful at 12-16th but not relegation. And that was at the start when hopes are usually very high and people are on their summer hols.

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  16. Stuart: I am saying the same thing as you and that is what has been said by most.

    I was excited for the start of the season just like I am for the start of all seasons. I think we were all realists though and saw what was needed. I tried very hard not to be a chicken little with Schteve because I had probably been Pardew’s and Carver biggest detractor i think.

    I still think we signed 3 decent players in the summer just not for an immediate impact. And 3 was never enough (forget Thauvin, he was Carr desperately trying to fix a previous folly).

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  17. Fact is Eric, will this finally make them realise that their way isn’t working? The team that stayed up spent £10m on a 32 year old and his goals kept them up and made them a minimum £100m! Our lot were too bothered about him not making them money when they sold him. If that doesn’t force home the point nothing ever will!

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  18. If by some miracle Rafa stays, we as fans shouldn’t even do a fckin inquest. What’s the point, we can move on. If he stays he will definitely have the power. If he goes, get out the blog torches and pitch forks because we are coming for you Fat Man, Charnley and Carr 🙂

    And remember, Ryder defended Schteve to the bitter end but then changed his narrative just like he did with Carver.

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  19. Seeing some tweets on Twitter talking about bookies odds on Nigel Worthington taking over.

    I hope to Christ it is wind up merchants.

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  20. FL92Transfer
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    Middlesbrough are rumoured to be interested in Newcastle midfielder Moussa Sissoko #NUFC #Boro #MBFC #Newcastle

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  21. I don’t even blame Rafa for setting up defensively. You fix what you can. We were leaking goals and had scored 7 away when he came in FFS. If you are scoring less than 1/2 a goal per game you have to try and make sure the opposition don’t get any. In hindsight, even a win at Villa wouldn’t have saved us.

    But, how bad were Everton. Lukaku’s price tag is supposedly 60 mil, Stones 40 and Barkely priceless!!! They didn’t even start playing until they were 3-0 down.

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  22. A win at Villa would have at least took it to the last day and given us another (feint) hope.

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  23. And our worst signing wasn’t even Thauvin (he didn’t play). It was Coloccini LIKE WE ALL KNEW IT WOULD BE AND SAID SO.

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  24. Eric Sykes:
    And our worst signing wasn’t even Thauvin (he didn’t play). It was Coloccini LIKE WE ALL KNEW IT WOULD BE AND SAID SO.

    Saivet and Doumbia are good competition. Played a combined 94 minutes since the January window shut.

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  25. FJ: I would have preferred a Villa win but fear it would have just postponed the inevitable. I am glad nobody got on Rafa’s case about it because Villa hardly had a shot and we had easily enough chances to finish them off.

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  26. Saivet’s fee was pretty low (around 2M, not 5) and I think Rafa wanted PL experience to shore up the leaky defense so didn’t play him. I think Carr thought he was a bargain and couldn’t resist. Doumbia was a desperate last throw of the dice.

    The Coloccini contract was done under no pressure and with full knowledge of his waning skills and especially his lack of pace and desire. We were all watching it first hand whereas the other 2 were unknowns in comparison.

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  27. Sad day. The fact that only desperate hope has kept us alive since the Sunderland/Bournemouth games makes it slightly less devastating.

    As I see it, the most important things to do now are to appoint Rafa, give him some meaningful control of the club, and get new faces on the board. The club administration needs a complete overhaul. As for the players, well, they’ll do what they’ll do to protect their careers. As long as Rafa stays in charge I don’t care. I’m not that sure I’ll miss many of them.

    The only positive I personally can take from relegation is that it comes just as my pay tv provider has lost the EPL rights … but now have the rights to the Championship. I’d prefer to lose tv coverage than lose PL status, though.

    With Rafa I think we’ll bounce straight back. With the usual miserable choices that Charnley and Carr make my guess is that we’ll be struggling to make an impact. Ashley must make the choice between Rafa or Charnley/Carr, Then it’s up to Rafa to make the choice between reformulating NUFC in his image and pursuing an easier option. Personally speaking, I think he is the sort of character who would go for the harder job.

    The pieces will fall how they will fall. The next admin decision is crucial.

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  28. Well I think deep down I always knew we would drop, hence the avatar. Now we need to get Rafa secured or the future will be grim. Seeing the back of Sissoko, Gini and a few others will be delightful. I am so disappointed by how utterly ***** Gini has been after such a good start. Let’s just have a squad of good honest grafters for a change then the rest will come – with the right manager…

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  29. Where do Gini and Sissoko realistically go though? I think to the teams that are where we should be: Southampton, Stoke, West Ham, Everton. They would see the Swanseas and Watfords as a step down and the elite won’t look at them. They are both still a good age and almost automatic selections for their National squads so I think we could get 10 mil apiece.

    There is so much money sloshing around that this is plausible. Hell, I bet someone offers Southampton 25 mil for Van Djik, probably Man U or Liverpool.

    The transfer merry-go-round will generate the cash for us to get decent money for players that have had a few good games and failed in others. You could certainly mash together a great youtube video for Sissoko and Wijnaldum and even Janmaat. Even Leicester might be interested because they have pace.

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  30. Craig Hope of The Mail was laying in wait with this article. He published it about 10 minutes after the Sunderland match finished. He then amended it with Keith Bishop’s, I mean Lee Charnley’s, statement a couple of hours later:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3585614/Newcastle-s-relegation-came-sticking-Steve-McClaren-example-gross-negligence-toxic-ownership.html

    You can see that everybody before Rafa has really riled up the press.

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  31. What a fuken mess… this season is a train wreck… To me the buck stops with Charnley.. Ashley stood back and let him run the show and he failed miserably. He needs to be sacked for his gross mismanagement of the **** show he is in charge of….. Steve McLaren and the players are also to blame. Both are as bad as each other…. To be honest there are no players that I would be sad to see the back of.. they can all **** off as far as I am concerned… Hope Raffa will hang around but I doubt it..

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  32. This is interesting from Ryder. He has been The Regimes chief sycophant and apologist and has done a U-Turn. You have to wonder if he was told never to speak out against Ashley and the Executives in order to remain in their good graces and get continued access (Waugh had spoken out though about Schteve)? Ryder did do quite a bit of cheerleading though which makes this about face a bit TOO convenient. The other thing is reading between the lines he is still defending Schteve in this article and his good friend Ugly John. He still cannot bring himself to admit that ***** hired ***** in all aspects of the club all the way down to Saint Peter of Beardsley.

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-newcastle-uniteds-semi-skilled-11320441

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  33. The last time the club was in championship, they only lost 4 games out of 46. Let’s see how well they fare next season 🙄

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  34. I have been trying to find out how Charnley went from tea boy to MD and it is hard to figure. From what i can see he had really no involvement with football matters and was promoted, after a power struggle and sackings, between Lliambas and Kinnear in April 2014. At the time there was a Finance Director, John Irvine, who quit soon after so Charnley assumed full power along with Carr. It wasn’t long before the two of them hatched a cunning plan as described by this extremely prescient piece of reporting by a Daily Mirror reporter, written only 8 months later:

    IT IS A MUST READ:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/lee-charnley-ripping-heart-out-5035737

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  35. I still think Charnley was hoodwinked by Carr into hiring McClaren but they were after their own little empire within Fat Man’s empire as soon as he had lost faith in his lackeys and had noone else to turn to.

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  36. I tried to connect the dots as to how Charnley got the job as MD but there are no dots to connect. I Googled stuff but found very few links. The Mirror Journalist called Charnley the man who “rose without a trace” suggesting he didn’t know how the hell Charnley got into such a position of power either.

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  37. Here is the full Chronicle Q&A with Charnley from when Pardew quit. It is clear that he and Carr had made a successful power grab and set up their own little fiefdom. Everything that has happened since (up until Rafa) can be clearly related back to this:

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848

    For once The Chron didn’t give NUFC an easy ride which is why we have the Machiavellian plot in so much detail.

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  38. Rafa was Charnley’s get out of jail free card. He would have to throw his friend Carr under the bus to play it. Unfortunately, he waited too long to play it like everything he has done except his initial power grab. He seems to be a scheming little weasel but I bet Ashley keeps him on as he is probably the only one who knows the finances well enough for us to be able to get anything done in the summer. Then, in true Shakespearean fashion Ashley will extract his revenge and have his pound of flesh. Charnley will be a pariah at 38.

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  39. Ally McCoist is my outside bet to get the toon job next season if Rafa decides to move on.

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  40. I want to see what the club are going to do in terms of changes they make. They must realise now that their way hasn’t worked.

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  41. Frank De Boer has left Ajax. Wonder if he fancies it…

    He will go to Everton I reckon.

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  42. Fantasy League semi-final results:

    Macas Pony and Trap 34 – 74 Shteves Shcitty
    Nik Nak Utd 44 – 95 Alestars

    So it’s Newkie v TDS in the cup final.

    Best of luck to you both.

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  43. Somewhere in Sunderland Sam Alladyce will be lying in a ditch with a bottle of rum in a brown paper bag.

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  44. relegated before the season ends – how fuking sad!

    don’t think being in the championship would be suitable for rafa – it could go from bad to worse.

    i think giving moyes the job with complete control would be a better option – of course that would never happen with this lot in charge.
    🙁

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  45. Sunderland were never out of the bottom 4 all season and won’t be as even if they beat Watford they won’t have the points to get 16th.
    They hired Sam 8 games into the season, with **** leaving saying Sunderland would go down.
    They didn’t spend anything close to what we spent in the transfer windows.

    Yes Ashley stepped back & removed himself from the board. But that does not mean he removed himself from blame. He left a bunch of numpties in charge, and if Charnley was influenced into taking McClaren, that speaks volumes too.

    The fact they released a statement while Sam was still dancing on their pitch, says to me it as PR over sincerity.

    If Rafa goes then there’s another manager who’s gonna need time to look at the players before deciding on what’s needed.
    But it wouldn’t surprise me if they hand the job to Ian Cathro – cheap, already in place and it worked with Hughton.

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  46. I did a spit take when all the Sky Sports people, Carragher and Niall Quinn especially saying Sunderland will be set as a top 10 team now with Big Sam.

    We’ll be top 10 in League 1 unless one of a small list are appointed manager with full control.

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  47. They won’t tell us Rafas future before the last game for fear of protest, they know fans aren’t kicking off at the moment because there is still the faint chance he’ll stay. Last thing they want is mass protest which they would get for certain if announced he’s going.

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  48. Anyone know what the tv deal with the championship is? Is streaming possible?
    As usual I’m looking forward to a new season – can’t wail on about it forever. As a fan it’s always about the next match although it will be interesting to see what changes if any are made to the club structure.
    Most of the players have had a rubbish season – there’ll be no stampede to buy them.

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  49. So after the dust settles;

    I cant believe I’m so aloof about the whole situation. I was devastated last time but when you lay the bare facts out we have been a relegation candidate for a while now. Which is ridiculous for a club our size.

    I am happy to get rid of the mercenaries and actually am undecided if I actually want Benitez to manage in the championship either.

    Hear me out;
    Hes got no experience in that league and we will always be threatened with the possibility he will leave. Whereas if he goes and we bring in a Moyes who has been there before we then have a premier league ready manager who can adapt to both leagues easily.
    Benitez is too good for the championship to the extent that every week we would fear his loss.

    Just a thought to provide some silver lining….needs must.

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  50. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9863241/mike-ashley-says-he-will-not-sell-newcastle-united-until-he-has-won-trophy

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/10214634/newcastle-united-have-virtually-nothing-left-in-the-bank-says-owner-mike-ashley

    I know it might not be pleasant viewing/listening, but I thought it was just worth reminding ourselves what our owner had to say at the end of last season & again when Rafa was brought in.
    I would love to know his thoughts now, and his opinions on the failings of the football board he left to make all the decisions.

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  51. Sharpy – I don’t think he gives a sh*t about us anymore. He’s as hands off as possible. Has he even met Rafa? He’ll leave things alone and let Charnley & co get on with it. About as dreadful as it’s possible to get but we’re stuck with the f*cker.

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  52. I personally don’t see dropping down to the Champioship denting Rafas CV too badly.
    Giving us a season to try & get us straight back up wouldn’t stop him getting a big club or certainly a PL club later down the line.

    The problem I see is the club not accepting their mistakes & agreeing to make whatever changes Rafa wants.

    He might be willing to stay, but we won’t accommodate him.

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  53. Georgio:
    Sharpy – I don’t think he gives a sh*t about us anymore. He’s as hands off as possible. Has he even met Rafa? He’ll leave things alone and let Charnley & co get on with it. About as dreadful as it’s possible to get but we’re stuck with the f*cker.

    Georgio – I’m not so sure now we’ve gone down. I think throughout the season he won’t give a ****, but I think (I hope) he’ll want answers why his business has taken such a hit.

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  54. Knew we’d be down, pretty much thanks to the appointment of Schteve McClaren. But we are a fucking joke club, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

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  55. Derek Llambias on Toon’s 5yr plan in 2009 ‘I would hope we’d be challenging for everything. We hope to be like an Aston Villa’ Visionary!

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  56. Shamrock:
    Moyes to Everton then? Surprised nobody else has mentioned it yet..

    Frank De Boer mate. Just left Ajax & said he’d love to come to England & manage a club like Everton.

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  57. Might be FDB Sham! Moyes would jump at the chance though. The club might not want him back – he’s had 11 years already.

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  58. Martinez is getting shown up for the charlatan he is, best everton squad in forever and they are awful. Seriously hope he isn’t our next manager, i’m sure he could take the championship at a canter with our relative resources, and the football is pretty, but the defensive errors would give me a heart attack within a year or two sadly.

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  59. Stuart79:
    Derek Llambias on Toon’s 5yr plan in 2009 ‘I would hope we’d be challenging for everything. We hope to be like an Aston Villa’ Visionary!

    How far ourselves and Villa have fell in a relatively short time is astounding.

    We could both “do a Leeds”.

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  60. I’ve got to give Charnley credit actually because I didn’t think it was possible to spend £80m and be worse than last year ending in relegation. It would have been thought to be impossible but seeing it with my own eyes is impressive. I reckon it’s that unbelievable achievement that has kept Charnley in a job. Ashley is probably in awe of him.

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  61. Stuart I’m not sure TDS would agree with you there mate and here are my reasons why.
    1. Lee had the clubs best interest’s at heart.
    2. You only expect players at champions league level and are very unrealistic when it comes to transfers.
    3. Give Lee a second chance
    4. Keep Taylor
    5. Colocini’s contact extension was a good deal.
    6. Give Mike a 10th chance rome wasnt built in a day

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  62. Some plebs on Ed’s blog are really saying we’ll get £14m for Wijnaldum. They think we’ll get back everything we paid for him after this season. They also think we’ll get more than £10m for Sissoko and that Mitrovic will immediately be one of the best in the division.

    I watch a lot of football and honestly, rarely is it Premiership. I tend to watch English lower league and Scottish football, hence why my predictions for Celtic players excelling in England is immaculate and the lower league types pay off too.

    I really think people have no clue what we’re falling into next year. The Championship is not a mug’s league anymore, it does not even resemble the division we got out of a few years ago. We’re going to get absolutely pumped.

    That’s why Rafa staying is my absolute top hope over Pearson / Holloway taking over. Rafa’s tactical stuff is beyond the manager’s down there and it would be our only advantage.

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  63. funkyjesus:
    Some plebs on Ed’s blog are really saying we’ll get £14m for Wijnaldum.They think we’ll get back everything we paid for him after this season.They also think we’ll get more than £10m for Sissoko and that Mitrovic will immediately be one of the best in the division.

    I watch a lot of football and honestly, rarely is it Premiership.I tend to watch English lower league and Scottish football, hence why my predictions for Celtic players excelling in England is immaculate and the lower league types pay off too.

    I really think people have no clue what we’re falling into next year.The Championship is not a mug’s league anymore, it does not even resemble the division we got out of a few years ago.We’re going to get absolutely pumped.

    That’s why Rafa staying is my absolute top hope over Pearson / Holloway taking over.Rafa’s tactical stuff is beyond the manager’s down there and it would be our only advantage.

    Totally agree with all of that, it’s gonna be a hard slog and it is absolutely vital Mike makes the right choices now, he cannot afford to take his eye off the ball any longer.

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  64. Get on with it Ashley. Sack Charnley immediately. Don’t bother waiting for the end of the season. This debacle is obvious to everyone. The papers are full of it. You are a disgrace. Give Rafa what he wants and stay out of the way. Sack the rest of the board after the final game. Let Rafa choose a head scout. Right then, we’re ready for the heads to roll Mike.

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  65. Any sign of waffling and you will put yourself into an even worse situation Ashley. Surely it’s obvious who needs to go? If we stay with what we have we won’t get back up. It’s as simple as that. I have no interest in hearing what Charnley, Carr, Moncur, Beardsley and any other board member have to say. Get them out of the club.

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  66. Back playing Devil’s Advocate:

    Hasn’t everyone in the media and I’m sure some on here had a pop at Rafa’s transfer success at Liverpool over the years? Sinima Pongol and El Hadj Diouf types.

    This is why I believe we are screwed. Rafa’s track record isn’t amazing and Carr’s is… well, not any better. Those would be our two options. No win.

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  67. Guillem Balague Verified account 
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    Guillem Balague Retweeted Chris Scott

    If I was a @NUFC fan and crossed paths with him, I would tell him I want him to stay. He’s seriously considering it

    Guillem Balague added,

    Chris Scott @chris_scotty32 @GuillemBalague do you think Rafa will stay at #nufc?

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