It was always going to be tough today given the opposition we were facing and the amount of key players we had missing, but we gave it our all and were simply undone by a few moments of quality.
There’s a lingering frustration given it was one of those games where we could’ve easily got something had Rafa been allowed to sign a quality attacker or two – something that’s continuing to cost us given 4 of our 5 relegation rivals picked up points today. That said, it’s hard to have too many complaints. We were organised and gave 110%; two qualities that bode well in a relegation battle.
It was a first-half of two halves. Just when it looked like we’d ruined Rafa’s game plan by conceding within the first 10 minutes, we finally came back into the game, stringing a few more passes together and getting more balls and bodies up and around Rondon, with a brilliant header from Ciaran Clark giving us a well deserved equaliser before the break.
It was great to see us show fighting spirit and actually come into the game from 1-0 down given we’ve failed to gain a single the last 11 times we’ve conceded first in the league, but our inability to kick on after that cost us (and don’t even get me started on that short corner in the final few seconds of the game!)
It didn’t quite happen for us in the second half, with us tiring and struggling to really get going, but it’s hard to fault the lads in this one – especially when we were missing several first-team regulars.
Rondon was an absolute monster up top and held off Chelsea defenders all night to hold up the ball, Longstaff put in a brilliant shift and looked comfortable on the ball on his first top flight start and Lejeune looked a class act at the back.
Atsu, Yedlin and Perez gave us an outlet and got into good positions in attack, but they flattered to deceive more often than not, showing exactly why Rafa wants the likes of Almiron to give us some flare and quality in and around Rondon.
Here’s how the table now looks after today’s results:
Burnley won the relegation six-pointer over Fulham and Cardiff and Huddersfield drew 0-0 in another huge game at the bottom, but it was Southampton’s 2-1 win at Leicester that result we could’ve done without today.
Here’s our next six games – starting with a FA Cup outing to Blackburn we could really do without before next weekend’s crucial game with Cardiff.
- Blackburn (A) *FA Cup
- Cardiff (H)
- Man City (H)
- Tottenham (A)
- Wolves (A)
- Huddersfield (H)
Ultimately, it came down to one side having that bit more quality than us – even if we outran them. Pedro and Willian took both of their chances emphatically, where as the likes of Perez sliced his big opportunity well wide.
With Ashley in attendance, hopefully he can see that all we may need to stay up is a bit more attacking flare in the final third (Almiron?), although I wouldn’t bank on that.
There’s positives to take from this, but we MUST start picking up points sooner rather than later – with our next league game against Cardiff undoubtedly our biggest game of the season to date.
Have to take my hat off to Jake Humphrey’s like. He’s the only pundit to really say it how it is at NUFC. Joe Cole & Rio making excuses for Ashley, but Jake stuck with it ??.
Rio comes out with ‘I played for a club, Leeds that spend and went after it but look where it got them’
Jake comes back with ‘well I don’t think the Newcastle fans want money spent they don’t have, but Ashley has made a £23m profit over 5 transfer windows’ – sit down Rio, shut ya mouth son, Jake has done his homework ??????
Joe Cole ‘to be fair, Ashley has never made it a secret he wants to sell. He’s probably sat wishing someone would come good with the takeover’. Jake responds ‘Newcastle were relegated 4 times in their history before Ashley – if they go down this season, that will be 3 times under Ashley’.
Good on you Jake!!. If you are going to voice an opinion about a club on National television, the least you can do is know what you’re talking about – so many don’t, but I’m happy with Jakes take on our situation.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Agree sharpy, rio said before game we should be thankin ashley for spendin 50m in championship to get us promoted and also for gettin rafa. Jake come back with rafa approached Newcastle. Wan ker rio ferdinand like
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Coutts – I think it’s a disgrace mate. They know the games they are covering and this is their full time jobs now!! The likes of Rio should be doing his homework – but it pi$$e$ me off more when it’s the likes of Owen and Jenas who have been at the club. Those to$$ers will just say whatever Rio is saying.
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Sadly I think today just showed the gulf in quality in the final 3rd. Hazard, Pedro and Willian are just world class at what they do. Then you have Hudson-Odoi and Giroud coming off the bench.
We have Rondon (who to be fair has been better than I expected), Perez and Atsu – those 2 simply aren’t good enough. Then Murphy and Joselu on the bench – I need say no more.
It’s a well known fact that goals keep you in this league, and we just don’t have the players.
I think our defence – or central defence has very good options.
With this back 3 formation, I think we look pretty solid. But it will take Chelsea type money to put our front line in order.
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One final word on Rio – it’s not lost on me that he does a lot of promotional work for Sports Direct – so I know where his breads buttered, but he’s wrong. He’s paid to talk about football and give an honest assessment. But instead he kisses the ar$e and makes excuses for the bloke who puts him on front of a few magazines he gives away free in his tacky little outlets.
Sharpy17(Quote)
So Rafa confirms he’s spoke with Charnley today but Ashley never bothered his ar$e – brilliant show of support from the owner is that.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy, he’s selling his clothing line in SD, they have exclusivity to it. Also Keith Bishop does Rio’s pr work.
Not in his interest to bad mouth Jabba . Really he should of said nothing at all if he can’t be arsed to do a bit of research on the situation.
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Aye, classy Rio in bed with those 2 parasites ? what a ball bag.
You’re absolutely right Kim, he should just keep his trap shut – but maybe Mike throws him extra chump change for verbally noshing him off on national tv.
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“Please say thank you to him for getting Rafa Benitez in!” That’s not really how it happened, Rio, let me tell you.
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more than likely.
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Still shaking my head at that short corner at the death mind.
Why just why
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim – just watched it again on MOTD – foaming. It’s just ridiculous when you have the big men we had on the pitch, and the fact we scored from a corner. It was the 2nd successive corner as well coz Luiz put the first one out for another one. Chelsea did not look comfortable defending that first one at all – then conceded from the resulting 2nd corner … then we switch to short corners ??♂️.
There was a few before that last one though so I don’t get why Rafa or one of the coaches were up shouting ‘get that ball in the box!!’.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Where do we go from here? Moral victories are not good enough because they don’t come with points. Then again, games like Fulham are mindnumbingly boring and soul destroying and seem to take the energy from the players as evidenced by the player complaints this week.
So, where do we go from here?
1. Throw the Blackburn game by putting out U21s?
2. Lejeune is a boost.
3. Shelvey, Dummett, Muto and Ki need to be fit and here.
4. We need a statement signing to lift the gloom of players, Rafa and fans.
5. The Chronic should STFU. It took them 21 games to realise what was going on and now every single article is negative. Get some balance you useless bunch of know-nothing, follow-the-crowd cnuts.
6. Beat Cardiff.
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Hopefully, we can get either Shelvey or Diame back for Cardiff. They are probably close but Rafa didn’t want to risk them for a game he though we had little chance of winning. We were 15-1 to win.
Also, Longstaff should now be ahead of Hayden who should be sold at the end of the window to anybody who will take him. I would take 5 million in a heartbeat. Use it to fund the so-called shortfall in the bid for Almiron. IF we ever bid anything in the first place!
I doubt Diame and Shelvey will BOTH be fit as that’s the way it goes for us. But Longstaff and one of them might be OK against Cardiff.
If you hadn’t guessed, I have had it with Hayden and the sooner he is gone the better but not until we have players back as there is nobody else in the reserves that I know of and I doubt Rafa will play a CB in midfield. Just not in his nature.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
The People/Chronic report that Rafa can now walk without paying Ashley compensation. You would think that would give him a bit of leverage regarding transfers. And still we haven’t signed anybody.
If I was Rafa I would walk after the Spurs game if we haven’t signed at least a couple of the players he wanted and then wait until the summer to see which of the Leicester or Everton jobs become available.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I see Rafa can leave without paying money now. Jabba knows he won’t because of the fans so he’s playing on his loyalty. Whilst giving no funds. Apparently money is there on the right players. How unlucky are NUFC? We never seem to find the right players.
Stuart79(Quote)
I see Richard Keys is getting in on the act now too. He says Rafa should buy the players himself as he has enough money. Hahaha. Why does everyone always blame Ashley he asks? I’m tired of seeing the amount of Tweets he has complaining about Coventry City’s owners. He’s such a hypocrite.
Stuart79(Quote)
Is it a prerequisite to be a d!ck to be a football pundit now? There are some that are comfortable in themselves and their own careers like Shearer and Lineker who buck this trend but most just want to be noticed and do so by saying controversial things. Even Souness.
I mean, Collymore, Savage, Ferdinand, Paul Merson’s Giant Baloon Heed. Even Carragher, they all just spout sh!te to get recognition. Jenas. He comes across as all knowledgeable because he has a good delivery but he talks rubbish and was a rubbish player.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Disappointing finish with useless short corner. PRO STRAIGHT CORNER Difficult for goal keeper with the ball moving away; easier for forwards to meet oncoming ball; not likely to be offside. AGAINST. None unless you only have Mike Williamson as an option
PRO SHORT CORNER. May provide a direct shot on goal. AGAINST. Offside more likely; ball coming towards him is easier for goalkeeper; ball from behind is more difficult to judge for forwards.
Short corners can be effective but for me the odds are against them especially when the ball goes to someone like Atsu who clearly didn’t know what to do with the ball when he got it.
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I thought we did pretty well considering the missing players and the standard of opposition. Great to have Lejeune back who looked fully fit and then young Longstaff put in a decent shift. I’d keep them both in the team especially Sean ahead of Hayden anytime. Incidentally did Hayden come out after half time?
2 moments of class out did us but may not have if we had anybody other than Rondon’s head to score goals. Still no goals from any midfielder. Must be a record.
georgio(Quote)
Dropping into the bottom three has probably ended any chance we had of signing a decent player. An owner who is looking to sell and who is hated by the fans. A manager leaving shortly and a good chance of going down. Of course I’d love to go there.
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I notice that Tosun, you remember the striker everyone wanted in the summer, is sitting on Everton’s bench. Looking at Fantasy Football he has 33 pts, less than Perez. Bullet dodged?
PremAndUp(Quote)
I didn’t think it was possible for the papers (Sun and Mail especially) to have even more stories on Man U. But now they have Jose linked with Madrid, Poch linked with Man U, OGS on a run and being advised by The Dark Lord Ferg. And then there’s Pogba and his Instagram and stupid dances.
They may as well just have a Man U 20 page pullout special every day.
If Man U beat Spurs to go 6 wins in a row then I think Neil Ashton and Neil “Fatman” Custis’s heads will explode.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Custis is the Man U reporter from the North East that Van Gaal called FATMAN. He’s a real jumped up little tw@t. He tried to make a joke of the Fatman remark but then said it was all down to a bad knee and then went on a diet saying he wanted sponsors for charity. He lost a little bit, not as much as his goal, and has now put it all back on again. Big surprise! If you ever read anything he writes or see him on Sunday Supplement you will know what I mean about him being a tw@t.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
It may seem like I hate all pundits and journalists. Not true. It is the useless, self righteous and self absorbed ones I don’t like – of whom there are many.
I like Barney Ronay and Daniel Storey at The Guardian and Louis isn’t that bad even though she is a Mackem. Shearer, Lineker and Pleat. Luke Edwards and George Cualkin. There are many I like, it is just easier and more satisfying to have a moan 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I don’t get BEin Sports anymore so don’t see Keys and Gray which is probably a good thing. I expect to see them at the next World Cup where they will both have put on another 2 stone apiece and will entirely fill the screen when on camera.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I have heard there are secret plans afoot to use them to block out the sun to combat global warming.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I have Bein sports… it’s all I can get here, but cannot stand the deplorable two… normally just tune out after the matches as they just spout s.hit all the time, especially about the Toon.
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DT: was changing the subject as it is depressing to even think about NUFC. But I am going to have a shot at predicting the lineup for Blackburn. Its difficult with probably the most important game of the season coming up on Saturday. 3 at the back.
Woodman
Sterry Schar Fernandez Clark Manquillo
Hayden Roberts
Murphy Kenedy
Joselu
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Commentator over here is jazzing all over his leg after Man U scored. Purports to be a Leicester fan but goes wild every time Man U score. It’s funny how the so called neutrals all go mad when Man U score.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Idiot dinosaur of the highest order, never seen him tell jose or any other top manager to buy their own players or club. He simply hates rafa, end of, any chance to take a swipe.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Would Aarons and Lazaar be eligible to play against Blackburn?
Would playing Aarons scupper a move coz you can only play for 2 different teams in 1 season?.
I would certainly play either Toure or Sorensen up front. Don’t know if Victor Fernandez is fit, but he’d get a game too.
Sharpy17(Quote)
It’s obvious from what Keys is saying that he’s just looking rise. To suggest Rafa would buy his own players or buy the club is just beyond idiotic – which manager has ever done that for him to even suggest it.
He’s saying things so stupid to keep him in the headlines coz he’s irrelevant in the world of football now.
I really don’t care what he has to say as he has no influence at all. Rio is a different matter – but I think it’s been well highlighted today of his connections with Ashley and SD – mug!!.
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😆 😆 😆 brilliant
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http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/969817607?-11058:809
Can always depend on big Al as well ?? ◼️◻️◼️◻️
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It will need these people to be comforted with the facts live on tv otherwise it’s just Twitter nonsense and they get away with it. Why don’t BT get a journo on in the next NUFC game?
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Stuart: Keys is a “journalist” 🙂
I think they need less ex-players from the big teams, especially Liverpool and Man U because they cannot hide their bias. The problem is that they like to hire ex-STAR players with name recognition.
I think there is a place for ex-players but the panel becomes lopsided when it is just them and only from a few teams. They should definitely have a quality journalist on and not hype merchants like Neil Ashton from The Sun who we have here.
The rest of the PL broadcast crew here are pretty good and it is not a coincidence that they are not from the big teams. Robbie Earle, Robbie Mustoe and Kyle Martino (ex-US team). Not exactly household names. They had Shearer on a couple of weeks ago as a guest.
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Even Robbie Savage and Collymore are ex-Man U and Liverpool. Then, thankfully you got that high-pitched scouse idiot Mcmanamanamananman. He used to commentate over here. What is it with these high pitched ex-Liverpool? There’s him, Carra and back in the day Emlyn Hughes. It is even worse when they are Scouse a well.
It doesn’t happen in cricket where they hire almost exclusively from the ranks of ex-players. They don’t act like idiots and court controversy for clicks and notoriety. I don’t think it is an education thing. More the culture of the football dressing room, the banter culture, initiation ceremonies and bad practical jokes. Like 12 years in a US Frat House.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
It will need these people to be confronted with the facts live on tv otherwise it’s just Twitter nonsense and they get away with it. Why don’t BT get a journo on in the next NUFC game?
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I am not going to get into politics from 4,000 miles away but you lot must be sick of Brexit. I stopped reading any articles on it about 2 years ago as it was just dragging on and on way back then. I am guessing it has worn you all down just like the takeover/fakeover has worn all of us NUFC fans down. I don’t watch the news here any more because of the crazy Trump stuff and get my news from comedians.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Mark Douglas at the Chronic has got some financial “expert” in to predict how the NUFC books look. His conclusion is a small profit. I don’t know who this guy is, but he is an idiot. He has assumed that expenses would remain the same as the promotion season. He has not taken into account the players that were let go and the subsequent reduction in the wage bill which has been documented to be below 60 million when in the relegation season it was above 100 million with bonuses. He thinks NUFC operating expenses will be 140million. Nearer 100 million, you fool! He also forgot that in the last accounts they brought forward one time losses. This guy really is an idiot and shows a probable profit of about 5 million. Absolute RUBBISH. My back of a napkin estimate is about 50 million and that is last year AND this year, so at least 100 million total.
As ever, I have to say I am not an accountant but I do have a Business Degree and am a Certified Financial Planner here in Chicago. Accountants are also my main financial partners so I have to know at least the basics to be able to even talk to them on the same level.
When the books eventually come out there undoubtedly will be some manipulation. It happened last time and the Chronic swallowed it hook, line and sinker and even repeated the mis-truths much later when the books had been dissected. They never learn.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-newcastle-uniteds-transfer-budget-15674913
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I don’t know what Mark Douglas’s slant is. He gets a know-nothing idiot “expert” in to show that there was actually no money to spend. Is he trying to justify the Fatman’s penny pinching? What is the point when he gets someone in who makes extremely basic errors in his assumptions, like he had never even looked at the previous books and was not aware of the drastic cuts in outlay for player wages that has shown us 3rd lowest now in the PL.
Has he been having lunch with Keith Bishop?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I thought I would nip this one in the bud before anybody quoted it on here. That’s unlikely because most do not believe what The Chronic put out.
The Chronic have had their financial experts on before and I have questioned their conclusions and have turned out to be right.
I am right this time as well. They consulted an idiot.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Sorry if I am boring anybody but Ashley/Bishop could not put out more pro-Ashley propaganda than the Douglas piece if they tried. His basic assumption that expenses would remain at 140 million is so far off it is a joke. The wages in that assumption were 110 million including one off bonuses and there were also one-off player amortization charges brought forward which inflated the expense number (they wrote off Colback for example when he was, and still is an NUFC player). We all know that Ashley has been drastically cutting costs. Hell, they loaned Mitro to Fulham to get half a years wages off the books when we all know we could have used him as a backup plan.
What we will see though is the Chronic using these wholly false numbers in future articles to justify whatever narrative they have at that time.
I promise you these numbers are absolute nonsense.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I had thought that Douglas was a bit better than Ryder and especially Craig “the Intern” Waugh who had been tasked with explaining the finances previously. This, and his defense of clickbaiting show they are all equally bad and stupid and equally bad writers as well.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I read that Eric and couldn’t quite see how they got the £39m available to spend from
georgio(Quote)
Eric you should email douglas what you have written , see what he says.
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georgio: he is an idiot because his basic assumption that expenses would remain the same is stupid. Ashley has been doing all he can to CUT expenses since promotion and brought forward a bunch of losses in the relegation season to write them off and fatten NUFC’s next sets of accounts for a sale.
I can only assume that this finance guy only looked at the numbers and has no idea what is going on behind the scenes.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastles-situation-been-poorly-assessed-13853672
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I see Cardiff are about to buy a striker for €25m.
Can anybody explain to me again why we should be doing better than we are?
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You think I would get a reply 🙂 If he did it would be that he had consulted a “football expert” and who am I anyway to question this “expert”. Somebody that knows an incompetent when I see it and someone who doesn’t swallow the PR spin on the accounts before they are released like the Chronic did. And someone when it was proved that the press release on the last accounts was all just spin does not continually repeat it as gospel, like the Chronic did.
Kimtoon: I could go on the comments section in The Chronic but I am sure I would be moderated and then banned within a day.
They should ask better experts because the guy they asked clearly has no clue.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Might mean nowt but there TV cameras at SJP
Icedog(Quote)
Wagner has left Huddersfield. Probably got the hump when Hoyle asked him to fund the January transfers from his own wages. The new way to run a football club by Richard Keys…
Stuart79(Quote)
If Huddersfield get Allardyce does that change things down there? He has a good record of keeping teams up. Although that would be one hell of an achievment.
Stuart79(Quote)
😆
meanwhile, mick quinn on talksport
on Alan Brazil’s Sports Breakfast he said: “It is Mike Ashley’s club, and he can do what he wants, that’s his prerogative. But just say: ‘There’s no investment, there’s no money, and I want to get out as soon as possible.’
“The reason no one has bought Newcastle United is because he’s made it so difficult for people to buy it, and I know that for a fact. He’s made it so difficult.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Outspent by Cardiff 🙂 We were in the summer as well and they only bought Murphy.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Story about Steven “love rat” Taylor having several models on the go at the same time on Instagram. I get the feeling that if he wasn’t a footballer he would be seeing Tracy from Consett. Rumoured not to be the brightest bulb either. Where is Andy Carrol when you need him?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6588407/Football-star-Steven-Taylor-claims-women-call-love-rat-just-want-famous.html
Eric Sykes(Quote)
That reminds me of the joke from Peter Couch. When asked what he would be if he were not a footballer, he replied – A Virgin.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I don’t care about tonight’s result, as in my head we are already out. The Brexit vote will send the country into turmoil but that’s what you get with a straight up referendum. For something as important as this there should have been at least a 60% threshold. I am not even sure if I agree with referendums in a representative democracy as that goes against the whole principle of the system.
Anyway, if we do not beat Cardiff – a draw is not enough – panic will set in. Last time we were faced with relegation Fat Mike caved and bought players. Even though we were still relegated it was close and the general consensus was that with a couple more games Rafa would have seen us safe. And that team was miles better than the current team – apart from central defense.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Anyway, since I got on politics. I think the 2 biggest champions of democracy and telling everybody else what to do don’t even have representative democracies. The UK has the House of Lords and The USA has the Electoral College and the Senate where a state like Montana with a population of 1 million elects the same number of Senators as California with a population of 40 million. How is that right? With all the hullabaloo generated tonight people will forget that the system is not what it is portrayed as.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I’m all Brexited out to be honest Eric. Sick of hearing the word now, it’s a bloomin mess built on a pile of lies from both sides.
Need another vote and what ever the outcome, sort it asap. If it’s out again then just walk away cause we will never get a good deal, it’s not in the other countries interest to make our life easy.
They need to deter others from following suit and that was always gonna be the case .
And i dread to think what this whole fiasco has cost our country just when we can ill afford it.
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Gonna wait to see the starting 11 before making a prediction for tonight, though in truth i’m not that fussed if we go out, league more important right now.
I doubt we’ll beat Watford if we go through anyway unless reinforcements come in.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Politicians always act in their own interest. Don’t worry, Kim, there’s yet another referendum on its way because the politicians want another crack at it as they want a different answer.
Stuart79(Quote)
Kimtoon: in my first post about it I said I ignore it as much as I can, just like I try to ignore Trump which is a lot harder because he is crazy and says crazy things.
I do know the issues though because I have followed politics for a long time. I even tried, and failed to get my mother to vote remain. She had her reasons so we didn’t fall out about it. I just wanted to know she had thought it through.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Remember the last time we put out a totally depleted team with kids in a cup? I think it was Man City away and I think we won like 3-0 or something.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stu, Don’t know why we don’t have a best of 5 vote lol.
Eric , aye, be just like us to win with kids and prelong the agony. 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Good chance we’ll see Cal Roberts tonight. Hope so. Rafa should play Perez or even Murphy up top. Anybody but bloody Joselu. Ritchie, Atsu, Roberts off Perez. Would at least be interesting to have 4 guys who can actually run and control a football.
See the Chron is running the Almiron stories again. Will they never learn. Cardiff signing this £18m guy will make no difference. It’s a game we have to win.
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It’s quite a common misconception that people voted leave didn’t have a clue what they were voting for. Many people did. In fact it’s less than certain what remaining in the EU will be like for us considering the direction of travel the bloc is going. The MP’s are manipulating the situation to get to a point where the only option is a second referendum. Whichever way anybody voted that is disastrous scenario for the UK. The dawning of the reality that we don’t really live in a democracy and that we ultimately have to do what MP’s decide without a tangible input. Interestingly enough it is only remain voters who want another referendum. Funny that…
Stuart79(Quote)
Stuart: my main problem with Boris, Nige and the leave crowd was the barefaced lies they told. In that sense it was a rigged referendum because the media did not confront them on the lies the way they should have. They brought it up, but didn’t push it hard because they all assumed the vote would be remain.
After that vote I knew anything was possible and I said to my girlfriend that Trump was about 50/50 when nobody gave him a chance.
Another referendum would probably go the other way as haven’t Boris and Nige been discredited to an extent? Their lies have certainly been proven to be lies.
Again, though, I am trying not read too much but get sucked in sometimes because it does matter. Especially as I may want to move to a European country when I retire.
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I can understand why some people are fed up. I have been to Brussels and a whole European Capital city has gorged itself on the largesse of the EU and their Members are pigs at the trough even by American standards.
It’s quite funny that waffles, the p!ssing boy, the main square and steak frites all take a back seat to the EU.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I forgot Tin Tin. There is a whole giant comic book store dedicated to him. I never got into it. Even the cartoons they used to show during school holidays were boring.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stu, i know a fair few who voted leave who now want a second ref, many feel misled as to what leaving really meant. Boris and company did themselves and Brexit cause a lot of harm actually.
I voted remain, for many reasons, i see myself as a European not British. As you know Lewis spends much time in hospital and under the health service and i see first hand the help we have from our European friends. Moreover there is serious concerns about medicine supplies, which i have had confirmed by various nhs professionals lately. Since Lewis relies on at least 4 vital drugs to control his epilepsy that really concerns me. There are major concerns over insulin as well which a few of my friends rely on .
It’s also the little things that folk don’t realise like funding for certain projects that will stop because we can’t afford to pick up the slack at local authority level. I have just experienced this myself where the eu have stopped funding an art project i attended once a week for 10 weeks 3 times a year. The local authority took over when it pulled out after Brexit was announced and now they have pulled the plug as can’t afford it 🙁
It will seem a small thing but is a vital part of helping people who are under extreme stress to unwind and relax away from the stress in their lives, vital for mental health well being.
Lots of these projects will go away now , never to return.
Being in the EU isn’t perfect but it’s not all bad either, like a lot of stuff in life. It makes me sad that Spanish, Polish and German folk i know who have been here contributing for many years now feel unwanted, even hated by us Brits. In my experience it isn’t the EU migrants that are burdening our system but others from outside the EU and that will remain an ongoing issue for what ever government is in power.
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