The deal makes Carroll the 8th most expensive player of all time, which is ridiculous in all honesty. Still, that is what the market dictated the price for Carroll was, and he was worth it enough for Liverpool to stump up the cash. Whether or not he would have been worth it for us is something that we will now never know.
It’s not all doom and gloom though and, believe it or not, there was some good news that came out of yesterday’s transfer deadline day.
The first bit of good news is that Stephen Ireland completed his loan move from Aston Villa and will be with us until the end of the season.
The move very nearly didn’t happen after a hitch with the players medical, but that was soon ironed out and Ireland completed his switch to St James’ Park, although he will have to wait to make his debut as he is currently nursing a slight injury.
Ireland can score goals from midfield, which will be more important now than it ever has been given that we have lost our main striker. If the 24-year-old can rediscover his form he could be a great aseet for the rest of the season as he has demonstrated before at Manchester City.
Hopefully Ireland will use this opportunity to get his career back on track. He never really showed what he is capable of at Villa, and it’s debatable whether or not he wanted to be there in the first place. A fresh chance and a new start awaits the Irishman.
Signing Ireland was a good move, but it wasn’t the best bit of news to emerge from St James’ Park yesterday, not in my opinion anyway. That accolade can go to the news that Xisco has now returned to Deportivo on loan until the end of the season.
The fact that Xisco has moved on will remove a sizeable chunk from the wage budget. Hopefully, given that Xisco is returning home to his former stomping ground, it will inspire him to some excellent performances and will persuade Deportive to make the move permanent in the summer.
Fingers crossed!
It’s hard to put a positive spin on the events of yesterday. Losing arguably your brightest talent was always going to cause a reaction. I see the mud-slinging has started from both sides, but as Pardew says, it won’t do any good going over old ground. Now is the time to look forward, not back, and get behind the lads who stayed on.
Oh and goodbye Xisco. You won’t be missed!
Ireland could be a great signing. The fact that he needs to prove a few wrong including half of Birmingham (not toonsy and/or Jay but the villa half of the city) is a great motivator.
If he could recreate his city form, we’ll be laughing 🙂
shrews mag(Quote)
i’m happy with ireland in truth.
heres a few thing scurrently on my mind.
1. andy carroll is a gypsie
2. Is anyone else thinking of removing judas from their dream teams merely on principle?
3. I hope Leon Best takes this chance cuz in truth I have been quite impressed with him in recent weeks- sorry if that offends anyone
4. Toonsy, i know im admin on here now, but we need to remove **** face from our banner asap
5. Pards dealt with that brilliantly today
6. Andy Carroll is a gypsie
MarkToon(Quote)
Before all the hullabaloo regarding Carroll broke wasn’t there some rumours going round that Barton was very close to signing a new contract?
Anybody know of any updates on this or will Carroll leaving have a knock on affect on contract extensions being signed (although clearly contracts arn’t worth the paper there signed on these days it seems)
halftimebovril(Quote)
@MarkToon I’m with you on #3. Wish he’d stayed on against Spuds instead of Shola.
blip(Quote)
@MarkToon 😆 😆 he’s definatly got a gypo look about him, strange never snoticed it when he played for us 😉
toonfan101(Quote)
HTB – No news on the contract. Dunno if it will even be signed now to be fair. Barton did say he thought we were heading in the right direction, but will he still see it that way now Carroll has gone?
toonsy(Quote)
Would feel better about Ireland if there was a purchase clause. AV will hold us ransom knowing we got cash to spend in the summer.
I’m still torn on Best. He has his opportunity now he needs to grab it
MDS(Quote)
I think the great thing that about us these days, is that as this all sinks in we are not all totally totally devastated and in a position where we can see no way forward, as we are generally going in the right direction; with a pretty good, if not a bit light squad. And now with some cash to spend.
The more I think about it, the more I think about how Carroll is not worth that much money, and the more I think that we just got 35 million for one player, who is replaceable in football terms, if not in local pride terms. I just hope the squad can see it for what it is and move forward together, because that coupled with some good summer signings is pretty exciting. Certainly never dull around here.
Black&White China(Quote)
HTB…i think that contracts are worth the paper they are written on…if fact…a **** ton of the paper. We just got 35 million for one player….that’s one hefty price tag for a few pieces of paper. 😆 I get what what you mean though.
In the end, I think NUFC come out the better for this. Sure we lose a top striker, but the club is put in a more stable financial position and we have cash to spend next summer.
I hope Ireland finds his form of Man City days…that guys was all kinds of trouble for opposition. I recall wanting him on NUFC back then, but knew he was worth a bit more than the team could afford…at that time.
NorCal Toonfan(Quote)
B&W China – Agreed, entirely.
toonsy(Quote)
Think your right Toonsy. I guess this summer will be a true statement of Ashleys ambition (we seem to be saying this every year).
We spend £50m on the squad (Carroll money plus the 15m from TV and ticket sales) and that shows the rest of the squad we are an ambitious club and everybody want to stay. OR we spend only a fraction of that amount and the Bartons etc decide to jump ship.
As always i guess time will tell
halftimebovril(Quote)
Yeah Toonsy, I know about Ashley’s previous but I just can’t shake the feeling that they are actually doing a good job, and that we are going in the right direction, and that Pardew seems to fit the bill at the minute.
To change topic slightly- I watched that interview with Hughton last week or whenever it was. And I gotta say it was a bit painful, him talking about how he would certainly like to take the job on here again etc. I certainly have no bad words about what Hughton did here and he was of course ever the gent, but there really is something about him where you feel a bit sorry for him, where he is a bit awkward and that he isn’t quite the main man.
That interview for me really highlighted it. For some reason, I don’t get that feeling from Pardew, plus it has been interesting how quickly Carver was noting Pardew’s control around the place, in a positive way. And most of us would probably trust Carver’s appraisal. Onwards and upwards. God I would love Ranger to score soon.
Black&White China(Quote)
It’d be really interesting to see if Joey and Jose sign new contracts. Overall, i do think the club is moving forward and I hope the players feel the same.
Enough Carroll articles! its time to move on starting with Fulham tomorrow!
sunlounger(Quote)
I think that signing Ireland is a very good deal, I think we can get him back to his best.
I think the money will be invested in the club in the summer and we should see some movement. But surely now we can give other players a chance playing upfront, such as Vuckic being able to have a chance. I’m sure we will do fine as we have been managing without Carroll for the last month. I totally agree with what Pardew said in his press conference, he spoke very well regarding the situation and explaining why he wanted to leave
The Goose(Quote)
halftimebovril
Do you honestly believe we are going to spend the whole 35million in one lump sum? If so, you are setting yourself up for disappointment, mate. However, we are likely to be in a good position for the next few transfer windows though, with an extra £8-10million there that wouldn’t otherwise be available.
~ El Toro ~(Quote)
For those who wish to see Andy ‘Colossal’ Carroll, Liverpool’s new No 9, checks in for medical~~~ 🙄
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLRAjGe9be8&feature=player_embedded
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Just a note about ACs ‘they didn’t want me’ winge … bear with me …
He signed a 5 and a half year contract in October on £40k per week (or whatever it was). That’s good money for a 22 year old non proven striker.
If he had broken his leg in the next match, and could never play again … would he have accepted an offer from the club to revisit his contract and reduce his wage to £5k per month ‘because you are now ****’.
No … so why would he walk into negotiations with only a few hours left of the transfer window and demand a doubling of his wage ‘because I am now very good’.
A contract is a two way street with each hopefully committed to the central purpose that the player plays football and gets handsomely rewarded for that.
In a balanced assessment of the proceedings his winging and whining makes no sense and he should never return to the north east … ever … 👿
shrews mag(Quote)
ET – I’m just writing about that (the money). A part of me is starting to think that we have most, if not all, of the cash now. It’s just the way the deals went through, like Torres being paid up front apparently etc that makes me wonder.
toonsy(Quote)
AOD – I’m not quite ready to watch vids like that yet. It’ll make me angry and my laptop would be useful if it worked, and if I punch it I don’t think it will 🙂
toonsy(Quote)
Shola will defend the honour of HIS people.
jay jay(Quote)
Toonsy, can I just ask how you add a picture to the comment section to go with your name?
Black&White China(Quote)
B&W – An avatar? There are instructions for that in the ‘FAQ’ at the top 🙂
toonsy(Quote)
It will be a good deal if its invested in the 1st team , we see what happens
If we invest it all as wisley as we did during the summer ill be very impressed , and i think andy will regret leaving us!
Johno Toon(Quote)
Toooooooooonsy
Fair enough with regards to the money. Still can’t see us stumping up such cash in one window though. Something tells me that the club have worked too hard over the last 18months or so portraying themselves as prudent to flush it all down the toilet in one transfer window swoop.
Good choice in not watching the videos. I have always said that if a large deal of £25+million came in we should sell, but even I have found the videos of him in a Pool shirt quite sickening 😳
~ El Toro ~(Quote)
just thought about AC transfer
football world is going mental
a player who has just been playing in premier for 5-6 month has moved form his beloved club with the record transfer of British player. 😯
Magpie_May13(Quote)
toonsy,
If I’m not mistaken Ashley prefers incoming transfers fees to be staggered over a period of time in order to provide an annual revenue. i.e Milner/Given/Martins sales etc.
Whilst outgoing transfer fees are front loaded i.e paid up instantly.
TonyGreenSupreme(Quote)
Cheers, will check it out. 🙄
Black&White China(Quote)
We know you’re close friends with Kevin Nolan who is a big Liverpool fan – what has he said to you about this club?
I have spoken to him. He is over the moon, really delighted for me. He said it’s a big chance for me to go out there and show what I can do with Liverpool, and that’s what I’m going to do.
Nolan , you shouldn’t have said something like that to him 👿
Magpie_May13(Quote)
TGS – I dunno whether Ashley prefers it that way. I think it was more of a case of it being the only way clubs used to pay.
Thing is, clubs need to shift these staged payments now as they will start being tracked for these new rules from next season, so if they are still owing payments it will impact their finaces harder in two/three years time.
toonsy(Quote)
My source predicted this a few weeks ago!!
They were well aware that they would sell at £35m no matter what Carrolls views were.
They had been tipped off prior to the final day of the window that Liverpool would put such a bid in and were going to break the news to Carroll.
Carroll made it easy for them.
First for the scoops again.
Bobby Shinton number 9(Quote)
We should have the options up front to put some away, and I think Shola has the aerial presence to bring in Nolan again-he can produce some good knock downs and will be playing in the more central attacking role unlike when he was partnering Carroll…Hopefully he’ll be at 100% for Fulham ater this break. As long as the team spirit remains we have the squad and the strikers to keep us up. 35mil in wise hands could work us wonders…Maybe Ashley should actually say hes pocketing it though and make us look poorer than we are in the summer eh? Hoping Suarez fails massively, bites a chunk out of Carrolls neck and alienates all of liverpool..allow us for a cheeky 10mil bid? 😀
NewkieBrown(Quote)
@toonsy: hmm punching of computer…
are you refering to some sort of this? 😎
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM2CtXPmTqM&feature=player_embedded
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
AOD that is Toonsy 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
“When I knew [Liverpool’s interest] was real and that there was a chance for me to come here I knew it was a great opportunity and I had to take it,” Carroll told the club’s official website.
😆 😆
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_6716881,00.html
Big Dave(Quote)
AHAHAHAHHAA…WHY DID YOU DO THAT? 😈 🙂
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Now we know toonsy is a hardcore carroll fan. 😯
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
We should have made carroll stay no doubt and im still gutted he wont be leading the line.Ireland is a good signing, he was shities best player 2 years ago. Losing carroll doesnt suddenly make our team ****. Midfield and defence still top drawer especially when everyone is fit. and we have35 mill plus to spend. We can now buy a couple of good strikers, winger, back up left back, maybe even top keeper.
The gypsie **** is being removed from my fantasy team tonight. He was after the money just like ashley was.
beznbarton(Quote)
Btw,the most funniest moment i ever saw was when carroll arrives at LFC,fans there were screaming and singing His name. SHOCKING LFC FANS. 😯
But i guess like what my friend said,They are simply way too happy torres has finally left. 🙄
Shouldn’t we be happy as well? 😆
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
“When I knew [Liverpool’s interest] was real and that there was a chance for me to come here I knew it was a great opportunity and I had to take it,”
…………
Ummm, so you’re saying you weren’t forced out then, Andy?
MDS(Quote)
I just watched Pardew conference,and just by looking at his eyes contact,i can sense huge displease on carroll decision to leave.He is speaking the truth. I does have some basic training at Police force. 😎
And from that i conclude,NUFC CLUB Board,Owner,derek,Pardew are right to sell Him off.
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Shouldn’t have laughed mackem when Bent left
just too soon 😐
Magpie_May13(Quote)
I got my avatar
thanks to B&W and Toonsy haha
Magpie_May13(Quote)
carroll is just trying to have it both ways, gets his money and his move but can go back home without people spitting on the lying gypsy. Sorry dont buy it. FK him and ashley and lets go with things.
Pardew, FCB, delboy are going to consider a bid of that size because they dont have the same emotional attachment to the club that we have, a geordie number 9 doesnt mean the same. Shame it didnt to that long haired pr*ck either
beznbarton(Quote)
where can I watch the press conference ???
Magpie_May13(Quote)
i know it one of you guys 😆
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJQwVuBfcVc&feature=player_embedded
Magpie_May13(Quote)
I think the perfect title for match review if we ever beat fulham would be:
CARROLL WHO? 🙄 😛
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
prised no one has put this up, Carroll’s first interview, thick as two short planks like. errrrrmmmm errrrmmmmm errrrmmmmmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFB_A5aUsto
AOD said it above and I agree, Pardew looked a bit dead behind the eyes today didn’t he, he genuinely seemed gutted.
After all that’s gone on, it seems to me like the turning point was asking for the new contract, and of course the fact that if he didn’t get it he was going to hand in a transfer request, “the balance of power changed”
Oh and another thing, did you hear when Pardew said he would be back? Seems that story the other week about him being out for another month was right
I Love Mike(Quote)
When do we post the “Fantasy Footballl: How would you spend 35 Million?” thread?
Yes, i am assuming Pardew gets it all come summer time.
NorCal Toonfan(Quote)
“When I knew [Liverpool’s interest] was real and that there was a chance for me to come here I knew it was a great opportunity and I had to take it,” Carroll told the club’s official website.
Forced out indeed 😆 😆
toonsy(Quote)
@ILM: look at how carroll speaks and his eye contact with the guy…
he doesn’t holds his eye contact with that guy for more than 3secs.always looking else where.
He must be feeling the pressure of that hefty price tag already. 🙂 😈
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
feel a bit sorry for a guy though
so much hate from us
but that’s what you will get when you slapped the fan
Magpie_May13(Quote)
realistically it is great money..how on earth can he possibly be the 8th most expensive player of all time. he is destined for failure…he is nowhere near the finished product and has also yet to go through any poor patches of form. he no longer has this elbow room to develop and the pressure for him to perform week in/week out will be enormous. i genuinely think this will be a bad move for andy….the pressure, his ego and not being in the comfy world he loves and grew up in will all take its toll
buddy(Quote)
NorCal Toonfan
Posted February 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM
When do we post the “Fantasy Footballl: How would you spend 35 Million?” thread?
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Fun game to play. Unfortunately half that $ is gioing to be needed for a quality striker.
MDS(Quote)
i also hate liverpool more than any other club so i would only be too delighted if he failed
buddy(Quote)
just throwing out my thought in general as i dont usually comment but read frequently!
ashley had shown once again how inept he is…how will this club ever move forward! we have been a selling club for 3 years now. unless 50million at least is re-invested in the squad..then sellin andy for such a price will have proven pointless(regardless of the sum). we should have a reasonable kitty of money without this sale…so we should have a bloody war-chest come the summer! i somehow doubt much will happen! we have gone into january desperately needing re-enforcements yet have weakened the squad in terms of quality and number. we are going through an injury crisis…yet we let 4 players go and only bring in 1(ben arfa was here il the end of the season regardless) and even ireland is injured. its a joke
buddy(Quote)
toonsy , that pic in the middle of banner must go 👿
Magpie_May13(Quote)
Buddy – Let it all out 🙂
toonsy(Quote)
MM13 – I know mate 🙁
toonsy(Quote)
Toonsy I’m a bit of a wiz on photoshop. I can whip something up for you if you like mate?
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
JG – I wouldn’t worry about it mate. I’m sure ethi-toon is already on the case mate. I’ll e-mail him first as it’s his banner really 🙂
toonsy(Quote)
Although on second thoughts, you could always create something and I would have three that could be put to a poll then 😛
toonsy(Quote)