Kevin Keegan doesn’t think Pardew will get to spend Carroll cash.

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I’ve managed to ‘borrow’ some of Kevin Keegan’s interview with Gabby Logan on 5Live earlier this afternoon. I understand that those who happen to not be in the UK have trouble accessing the online BBC features, so I’ve been naughty, nabbed it, and here it is for you all to listen to.



I’ve cut out the irrelevant bits as the interview is about twelve minutes long in it’s entirety and the first ten minutes is spent talking about generic football issues and Keegan’s experiences at other clubs before he moved on to talking about Newcastle.

The general feeling is that Kevin Keegan doesn’t believe that Alan Pardew will see any money from the sale of Andy Carroll to Liverpool on transfer deadline day. Keegan is legend at this club and his opinion is one that is always welcome of course, but is he right on this?

That debate will continue until the summer no doubt and the proof will be in what business the club does before the start of next season. It is a case of sour grapes and bitterness from Keegan though? Or is he about bang on the money?

Time will tell I guess, but what do you think?

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127 thoughts on “Kevin Keegan doesn’t think Pardew will get to spend Carroll cash.”

  1. haha good, i tried for ages to find the program but toonsy. back to football talk, i dont think that he shud be exploiting what went on at the club when he was there, he should act professional like Chris hughton, put his hatred aside for Ashley, and not paint Newcastle in a negative picture.

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  2. David – I used that Freecorder that I told you about, then used another program that changes it from mp3 to a youtube upload. Then added a picture and bingo 🙂

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  3. aye, tried to download it but didnt work, then other programs wouldnt record from the speaker, any way good article 😀

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  4. TOONSY dug that out well,dont really know what to make of it,is it sour grapes,thing is he always seemed to tell the truth in the past,we will have wait and see,might have done us favour,ashley might think fk him and spent it,to try and make him out a liar 😯

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  5. Really controversial from Keggy, I mean Pardwho has assurances that he will be allowed to spend the money in the summer and he wouldnt be stupid enough to make big statements in the press without any substance… 🙄 🙄

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  6. i could listen to keegan all day long – a very passionate bloke that talks alot of sense.

    he is very bitter toward ashley but who can blame him after the way the cockney mafia f@ucked him around – he aint nobody’s yes man that’s for sure.

    kk will always be held in high regard with the majority of the toon fans wheras when fatty eventually goes all you will hear is – good riddance to bad ****.

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  7. Aye but if you are going to make flippant remarks like that you need to back it up with evidence. What evidence has he got that ash won’t spend money?
    I love the guy for what he did for us, he is an emotional wreck though and needs to think before he speaks sometimes

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  9. OK, a long post, this one.. but bear with he, ‘cos it’s an important point:

    I do think KK is bitter and I’m hoping he’s wrong on this one – but who can blame him? He stuck at it through the courts to prove he was in the right over his sacking, and it’s clear that he was treated incredibly badly. Since then, lots has happened to suggest that – in parts – Ashley has learned a bit from the experience.

    I don’t think we’ll see £35m spent in transfer fees, for two reasons:
    1. Like it or not, that money goes into the same pot that pays for everything from salaries to car park gritting. Whatever’s left over can go on transfers, but I do expect Ashley to balance the books too.
    2. Ashley, quite rightly, will stick to his policy. Unfortunately, there just aren’t that many players out there that tick all the boxes. I think we’ll see dozens of players linked, with 99% falling through.

    If the club hadn’t taken the Carroll deal, they would have another year to build on their model so this would not have been a problem. Now they have a big problem: the top players will have alternative employers lined up by the time the window opens, and they will NOT wait until the last day to take them. If the club doesn’t put its money where its mouth is and start buying big in the first few weeks, our squad will be decimated.

    £35m not that much all of a sudden, is it? The value of the player is irrelevant. If I’m surrounded by lions carrying an Uzi, and the unarmed bloke next to me offers me three times what the Uzi’s worth, do I take it?

    Only if I have no experience of dealing with lions. Oh, dear. What a ****-up.

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  10. at the end of the day king kev is a fan as well so why shouldnt he say what he thinks ,lets face it were all thinking it in the back of our minds ,he also says that he would of sold carrol for that price so not all anti ashley ( KING KEV FOREVER)

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  16. Moreno
    Posted February 28, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    Aye but if you are going to make flippant remarks like that you need to back it up with evidence. What evidence has he got that ash won’t spend money?”

    That’s the silly thing, his ill feelings towards the board has guided a comment that he has no idea is true or not. As others have said, you can’t blame him for being bitter, but asserting a fact for something that hasn’t happened yet, and one which he has no idea whether it will happen or not, leaves you a bit open for ridicule.

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  17. We will get the money I reckon BUT how much of it is now put aside for the Tiote deal?
    6.5 years is a very long contract and I am wondering if part of the £35 is being used to pay for that contract because Ashley did say invested in the team, not just on transfers I think…..?

    I am slightly confused about what the £35m is going to be spent on

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  28. hope keegan’s comments, however bitter and emotionally driven they are, will give mashley a reason to prove him and all the doubters wrong by providing all the 35M for summer…

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  31. DAVE your dropping to bits m8,me and batty telt you what happen if you jumped into bed with ashley 😀 😀

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  32. Ice its not me that gets cheap 2nds of the cheap sports retailer 😉 try asking wor Batts what he do’s for Fat Lad to get that contract ❓ ❓ ❓ 😉

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  33. DAVE you mean wor batty cant belive that m8,sold me some 6 pound notes for only 2 pounds as hes a mate.

    wait a god dam minute batty you b————– 😯

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  34. Ice I even heard that Batty was doing “favours” for Lambs **** aswell, and Richie is normally not the type to say owt unless he knows its right 😉
    But I do plan on asking him as that could be where he is getting the dud £6 notes ❓

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  35. “But who can blame him? He stuck at it through the courts to prove he was in the right over his sacking, and it’s clear that he was treated incredibly badly.”

    Whumpie – Keegan was being paid £3million a year to have broad shoulders – he is a coward imo.

    Being treated incredibly badly is being sexually harassed or molested – being asked to work within a remit isnt.

    On every occasion The Coward King puts himself first. He didnt care that we got relegated after he walked yet he would have understood the consequences, he didnt care if he had got £25million we went into administration – we know that as he tried to sue us for it.

    Keegan that once was is gone – a shell of a man remains.

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  36. I knew Stardust would be coaxed out by this 😆

    On topic, I don’t expect us to spend £35 million this summer as I reckon that it will be used to strengthen the club as a whole compared to the playing staff.

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  38. Stardust your right mate he should have stuck around a bit longer getting treated like a puppet to get screwed just like Clueless Chris did 😉
    Jay has someone been abusing you 🙁

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  42. Jay are ye sure cause from what Mark was telling us he gets the drinks in all the time, but maybe thats sneaky ones for himself ❓ nah he would be that low ❓ ❓ would he 😉

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  47. Personally I think Keegan is probably just a bit sick of giving Ashley ‘one more chance’ and then be left feeling let down when he’s made another stupid decision.

    Time will tell, but I think it’s fair to say his past actions don’t leave much confidence.

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  48. Stupot “Time will tell, but I think it’s fair to say his past actions don’t leave much confidence.”

    Like Keegans do?

    Aye Toonsy – it was like shooting fish in a barrel getting me out for that one lol

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  49. HBA may not play again this season 🙁 🙁

    AP:
    To break both bones in his shin is tough, not just physically but mentally. He’s got a long road back. Whether he comes back into the first team at the level where we are at the moment, we’ll have to see.

    “Certainly next year he will be a big player for us.

    “But his recovery will take us into April, maybe May.”

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  50. Possibly.

    The problem is with KK that some see his actions as the actions of a principled man, others see them as the actions of a cry baby.

    Somewhere inbetween perhaps…

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  52. Tbh Im not bothered at all about Keegan. Or his circus clowns. He can say whatever he likes, it makes no difference to me.

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  53. Maybe he will give Pardew some of the cash. I certainly wouldn’t give it to Keegan, who would spend it on Henry or some clown. Can’t blame Ashley on that one.

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  54. DJG just remember mate without KK we would be playing in the 1st div now if we were lucky 😉

    pearceet I have said before we will be well safe by the time Benny is ready and I would rather he took longer out to makesure he is fully healed and recovered before playing him. So often you see players coming back as soon as they are ready and it can end up in other injuries or problems related to the original injury.

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  55. Dave “DJG just remember mate without KK we would be playing in the 1st div now if we were lucky”

    Who knows where we would be fella – I will be forever grateful for the memories he gave us first time around – its the best football I had seen at SJP – though this season we have played some great stuff (at a higher level) from time to time.

    Keegan belongs where he should have stayed – in the past 🙁

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  56. Big D

    Aye but he’s out the loop now. Hasn’t managed for years. Pardew was the best choice, even though we were underwhelmed at the time.

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  57. Stardy well said mate 😉 I have to admit looking back on it now I wish he hadn’t returned for a 2nd spell as manager, but I will never forget what he has done for our club and will always be grateful to him for it. 😉

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  58. I think it’s also very risky to say we would be league 1 or something. That was a long time ago and whats to say someone like Ashley wouldn’t have recognised the potential of the club and built us up to the level we are at now? Making s### loads of money in the process.

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  59. Keegan has managed under Ashley and will have been told the same stuff – that he would get money to buy players and sales would also go to players, like Milner for example.

    Instead we lost Milner and got Xisco and Nacho Gonzalez, two players he didn’t want. History proves Keegan 100% right. I am backing Ashley at the moment as UEFA’s new rules alone mean we are moving in the right direction, but Keegan is spot on based on proven fact.

    Is he meant to ignore history so people can say he is being respectful? I’d rather be honest and apologise for being wrong later than give an admitted liar repeated chances and then feel gutter later.

    Keegan is emotional and up front, you guys can’t be shocked that he would actually say what most here have said 15,000 times since Carroll left.

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  60. DJG I still believe that if we were lucky we would be in the 1st Div,
    As for the potential of the club before KK came there wasn’t really that much potential 😉 .
    Thats why I wouldn’t slag him off 😉

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  61. DJG – Because there was no potential back then. We were one game away from going out of business. Put simply, there would have been no Newcastle ta have any potential realised in…

    This is why it pisses me off when people forget about all that and moan about now and about how it’s so shyte supporting Newcastle at the minute blah blah fecking blah. It isn’t bad now, in fact it’s been far worse!

    No matter how many Champions League games, 5-0’s over Man Utd, Barcelona games etc, nothing, and I mean nothing, will ever beat the feeling of when we beat Portsmouth to scrape survival and avoid us dropping to what is now League 1! I’ve not seen scenes like it since either.

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  62. funkyjesus I think I would have to agree with most of what you said except >>
    Keegan is emotional and up front, you guys can’t be shocked that he would actually say what most here have said 15,000 times since Carroll left.

    I think most of us were saying a lot worse 😆 😆

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  63. I simply can’t understand though how the whole tyneside area wouldn’t spawn, even a new club. It’s good to see the Heed on the up for example at the moment. About to move into their own ground and with league football a real possibility. I think the club would have come back in Newcastle, im sorry but I simply can’t understand how you say there was ‘no potential’.

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  66. When I look at the 52,000 that packed into the ground just to see a championship game last season, the hundreds of thousands that listen and support the club. The Sunderland club that has been in the top 2 divisons. That is potential of tyne and wear when it comes to football.

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  67. DJG – New investors? To invest in what exactly? There would likely have been no Newcastle United to invest in. Those aren’t my words or opinions, they are those of the man who owned the club at the time – Sir John Hall – who admitted that Keegan was the last throw of the dice and that if it didn’t work out the club would likely be out of business.

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  68. DJG – But you are confusing potential NOW with the potential we had back THEN. Back THEN, which is what you started off on, there was none of that.

    SJP was a shithole that was half condemned anyway so that 52,000 would have been a pipe dream that would never have been realised. Actions have consequences, and the consequence of us getting relegated would have had the consequence of us not having what we have now.

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  69. toonsy…don’t let the glory seekers get to you mate…. oh for the great days under FFS…backed up by Alan Oliver and John Gibson at the Chronicle we would have been competing with Chelski for Torres…..

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  70. Sir John Hall and KK pulled the club back from the brink, and rebuilt SJP in a short matter of a few years….wonderful times too, pity they couldn’t be maintained.

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  71. Exactly, it would have cost them peanuts. That is an investment, you’ve answered your own question there im afraid. You have to start thinking about what would have happened if the club had ‘dissapeared’ as you say. Football in Newcastle would have never dissapeared in some form or other, even then there was enough demand.

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  74. Back when John Hall took over the club, purported benevolent billionaires weren’t waiting on every street corner to buy up clubs. They have only come about in more recent years I believe.. From what I recall there weren’t too many takers when John Hall was trying to sell the club, despite the huge potential..

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  75. Big D

    Im sorry but I just can’t stand this bull that the club would have ‘dissapeared’. I knew Keegan was in the circus but I didn’t think he was capable of that. 😆 Maybe we would all support the heed instead and that would be the biggest club. 💡

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